Fixing Games Workshop's WORST Model

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[@RolandoRatas]

The worst model that GW has is their business model.

[@SuperDuperHappyTime]

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[@KrisTomich]

Based

[@mrspeigel3593]

BAM!!! Mic drop

[@benjaminhayward5921]

HEY-OOOOOO!!!

[@TableTopTransformer]

Ohhhh very good

[@Marcellovesyou]

You've accidentally made a redemptionist gang and now legally have to play necromunda.

[@Bobyoudontneeemyname]

There was a time where gw themselves would have put something like this in white dwarf. Love those ‘grave kits, and great bashes!

[@Kalizal]

Best thing about the Frostgrave/Stargrave kits they are at a, "It's cool to experiment" price point. I know that if I muck up one or five cultists I've got more on the sprue. GW kits always make my wallet cry out in pain, so I don't want to hack off bits to try and kit bash.

[@SashaS-s2z]

I remember opening one of Warcry boxes, only to discover that there is an exact number of heads, and that I really couldn't find any replacement that wouldn't look completely out of place even if I wanted. The heads looked cool - but taking even one away meant finding a solution for the entire warband.

[@RSBurgener]

The dude in the stocks with a pistol in his hand is cracking me up! 😂 I love what you've done with these guys.

[@willpenn966]

Miniatures? On a Discourse Minis video? It's more likely than you think! And very much appreciated, I adore any content that is you hobbying.

[@DarthAzabrush]

GW charges more than £50 for 20 Brettonian Foot Knights. You can get 32 Agincort Footknights from Warlord for £22. No brainer is no brainer.

[@EdAllen]

Frostgrave Cultists II and Stargrave Scavengers II are even women!

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

This is good content. I much prefer good modeling advice like this over rage bait disaster videos.

[@CanHammer]

This is great. These cultists fit that Blanche style perfectly. Please keep the hobby content coming and show off more of your armies.

[@Mystrich]

I feel like it's been forever since we got a hobbying video. Definitely want to see more!

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

Great job! I got the novitiate box and made them into all the Sisters characters - hospitaller, imagifier, Canoness, diologus etc and I use Cawdor gangers and some mantic parts as novitiates - and Empire flagellants as arco flagellants

[@markrimer9481]

My minitures gaming has strictly been BattleTech since the early '90s, (which come usually with one set of gear/pose), so seeing you fix up the minis by mixing and matching from different kits and then painting them was awesome! The final products looked really good, and the fact that they are unique is the best. Keep up the good work!

[@Tallus_ap_Mordren]

Barely concealed papistry… in Ireland. No, no, not gonna go there…

[@nolader28]

Why everyone seem to hate the models so much? Seemingly everywhere on the internet, as soon as novitiates are mentioned, people always remark how they hate the models. I like them personally

[@Prinny9000]

I've been letting my friends and the locals at my game store know that's there's other minis out there other than GW

[@GarredHATES]

The Novitiates make good kitbashing for Sisters of Sigmar in Mordheim.

[@JMcMillen]

There are more affordable mini's from other companies that can also be used for Sisters of Sigmar.

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

@@JMcMillen could you give an example... for reasons

[@l0stndamned]

@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Anvil Industries does some similar miniatures and Frostgrave does female versions of many of their sprues.

[@efenex8303]

Discourse Miniatures- "you can go outside sometimes"

[@Senbei01]

"Very, Very awkward to build" They were single piece castings... with a separate backpack... (mostly. The heavy weapons had a seperate gun)

[@BlizzAz]

I used thost Frostgrave Cultists and some left-over Astra Militarum bits to kitbash my cultists of Nurgle. Good choice!

[@edwardblacklock2446]

I used the cultista, scavengers and crew kits to make my Redemptionists

[@SonsOfLorgar]

I've used a mix of beastmen ungors, chaos marauders, cadians, catachans, vraks renegades and a few bits of nids, dark elves and the old 3rd ed CSM mutation sprue to make an entire renegade guard mech infantry company.

[@simonpark843]

Excellent kitbashing video. You're genuinely imaginative with your builds and your enthusiasm for it shines through.

[@markcooper3516]

more hobby videos please. A kickass beastmen conversion would be dope.

[@AcoylteKraven82]

4:31- Are you saying they don’t have any alternative build options?!? I know it happens….. but that’s pretty rare!?! Especially for the last 5 to 6 years!!!

[@bubbus5183]

Yeah they’re just lying, they do have build options, 3 per each models pose you can find them by just googling the novitiates instructions, kind of an embarrassing blunder from her.

[@AcoylteKraven82]

@@bubbus5183 oh, yeah…. It definitely sounds like it!?! I didn’t know about all the options either…. I wanted to build a Sisters army when I got into the hobby but that newer box set was always sold out around that time! I did eventually get a few of their bigger kits! Just to paint and display! Then I wanted to build a DKOK/Cadian army and OH BOY would that be expensive!!! But I guess I got lucky!?! Because a few stores near me had some HUGE SALES on certain armies and they were definitely on my list!!! So I ended up going with Orks and Necrons!!! And both sets either came with or the sale included SM! So I ended up with 3 armies! And then I just bought a box here and there until now I’m done with the SM army, my Necrons are about 80-85% done (70% if you don’t count what is still in the boxes) and my Orks are about 40-60% done (that one has a bigger gap because until I organize everything I have for them, I really don’t know how much I have)!!! But like I said, I am a fan of the Sister’s!!!

[@Bluecho4]

Personally, I don't mind the Novitiates kit. But I think it's much smarter to use them as proxies for other Sisters units. Either as the many sundry Sisters foot heroes (Dialogus, Imagifier, etc), or stuck on a larger base with a sufficiently holy looking artifact to make your own Triumph of St Catherine. Either way, you're getting way more points on the tabletop for the same price.

[@TheLiberalNerd]

TBH. I love that the Novitiates look like literal Nuns with Guns. Like when Sister Amatia from the local convent just took up an assault rifle and was bringing the good news of the emperor to the heretics.... Your kitbash is really awesome anyway :)

[@scotsbillhicks]

You win the internet for saying the quiet bit out loud.

[@TheBunnan]

They look great! It's a sad day though when you need to reintroduce kitbashed minis to 40k players... have they forgotten so quickly their past? 😥

[@TheGlennsof]

They have forgotten the face of their father.

[@blackturtlesoul7387]

Very fitting for 40k

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Most of us 40k veterans have retired from GW, the newer ones never realized kitbashing is an option.

[@SlayerOfWorlds]

This is great. Keep up the content.

[@richardharrison4762]

This approach will work great for the Nurgle cultists that I am after (would cost around £300 to buy all 60 GW official models)

[@cassandracastro2759]

For 10 usd more or less, I got 2 sprues for Stargrave, and was able to build 10 diferent models with them (some friends and I bought a couple boxes and divided the sprues equally). I had a lot of fun building and painting them, though I mostly use them for other games. 100% recommended.

[@roadgoeseveron7128]

im always for kitbashing and customization - i used the flaggelants for my Mordheim gang :)

[@stewartjohnson5053]

For those wanting fantasy humans, Perry Miniatures do a fine range of medievals, Gripping Beast have lots of Dark Age and Middle Eastern medieval stuff and Fireforge do all kinds of historical and fantasy stuff. All of these for around half to a third the price GW charge.

[@gbprime2353]

This is what dragged me into competing in GW tourneys... converting models. My Venator Necromunda gang... are Kroot. My Harlequins and Avatar of... Isha... army are... dryads. High elf silver helms... are centaurs. I quit a few editions ago, but I still drag them out to play with friends.

[@michaelpipe5488]

A hobby vid from discourse? Awesome! Those frostgrave/stargrave models are great.

[@christopherhendry1633]

More videos putting stuff together, this was an absolute delight

[@robertoflores4876]

this was incredibly inspiring for getting me to kitbash more! Thanks!

[@user-vg6sg7kh1q]

the old sisters of Sigmar miniature would have made a good base for this. They had some novices miniatures but probably hard to find

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

@Discourse Minis This was your best episode yet. Congrats!!

[@DangerouslyIncompetent]

Kit Bashing: It's what High Impact Polystyrene was invented for!

[@Hoggezilla]

I wanted to comment something fun and witty, but today, I'm exhausted. However, I definitely enjoyed this and would love to see lots more!

[@scotsbillhicks]

This has to be one of your best posts. Really good and you hit most of the bases. Piece to camera, assembly footage, painting footage, name-checking companies and paints, imagery/stills. And you edited it all together so smoothly. I quite like Sisters of Battle, especially when I found the Raging Heroes range.

[@Artmesa]

You can also mix in the Frostgrave heads and stuff from Oathmark. These kits are amazing. I play Frostgrave and Stargrave with them but they useful for any game!

[@kevinsmith9899]

At 2:00, I very much appreciate that you showed (and pointed an arrow at) the word you were saying. It sure sounded like "flatulence" kit, which immediately grabbed my attention.

[@Gothmetalhead13]

Video summary: GW drone discovers other product lines and potentially other games

[@efenex8303]

This is your best type of content! Please make more!

[@Reuvii]

I can hear these kits suddenly going out of stock across the land... Love seeing hobby content from you!

[@ods94065]

California is watching. It is the dry season. You better not.

[@alltat]

Does California have any other seasons?

[@ods94065]

@@alltat Depends on the year. 😞

[@KaiHouston-m6j]

@@alltat Fire season, fire season, why does it not rain season, and not very firey season. :)

[@jimmysmith2249]

Nice! I miss the days of being able to kitbash. Takes a lot more work these days, more than it used to take my predecessors. That is technology recession existing due to technology progression.

[@michaelcaterina4583]

This is a great way to expand GW kits too. I used the cannon fodder kit from Wargames Atlantic to expand the 10 man cadians into over 30 penal troopers.

[@l0stndamned]

Fun video. While I do find the notice sisters useful for some things (leave the faces off and they can be cyber-punk Nazgûl) I can imagine making loads of them getting both boring and expensive. I hadn't thought of mixing cultists with Stargrave parts before. I'm going to have to remember that next time I'm making Yellow-sign Militia.

[@mrspeigel3593]

Ma'am, I regret to inform you about 4th ed WFB Nagash..supreme party clown of the undead

[@euansmith3699]

The Cawdor Kit from Necromunda could be a good source for Fraternitas; though, or course, not a flexible or reasonably priced as North Star miniatures. The guy with the pistol in the stocks is a really fun look. I like this sort of content. 👍

[@pjsines4705]

Building and painting that Novitiates kit was tedious, at best. Great job on the kitbashing!

[@gonzotgr8]

I used the Novitiates arms on battle sisters bodies for my kill team, just because I liked the armored sisters better and it turned out amazing. Now I could do the reverse and use battle sisters arms on novitiates bodies if I wanted.

[@kilooscar933]

It's giving Trench Crusade in the best way

[@GrandNagusEli]

Yes. One of us

[@MrOmega-cz9yo]

Kit bashing! I wonder how many people remember that this is how GW started. The Rouge Trader rules actually had instructions on how to kit bash a tank! You want jump marines? You had to buy a box of marines, a blister pack of jump packs, and a blister pack of close combat weapons. You could then proceed to make the models you wanted. A lot better than having to buy 3 boxes of marines to get the 15 you want. Ah, the good old days.

[@maxkircher4671]

Damnit Discourse stop pushing me to raid Victoria Miniatures for modern sci-fi looking human limbs and heads to make Gue'vessa teams out of the spare Fire Warrior bits I have, I've got enough strain on my time and budget as it is

[@Spacefrisian]

You wonder why they bring organs to play music, my opponents will wonder why my Riptide is bringing a Bullet train to battle...Yes 40k sometimes doesnt make sense. (my Riptide is modeled after the GaoGaiGar mech)

[@SonOfTheVoidd]

An awesome kitbash idea would be to use the cawdor gang units as a base, they have some awesome models plus them having more warhammer looking guns in their sprue makes things easier

[@JC-gv6sq]

That's some great conversions, easy to make, cost efficient and looks great painted. Well done.

[@kieran2221]

Wooo, a model-making video - I love this, and I'm excited to see if you make more?

[@schergood7877]

Why the clickbait?!....

[@GrandNagusEli]

Have to feed the algorithm 😊

[@maxmagnus377]

Incredibly refreshing to see a mostly positive video here! And love the kitbash! Incredibly on point for the SoB to have gangs of crazed cultists to rush forward and do the kind of battlefield interference that novitiates could do. Also, for those also interested in alternatives for overpriced GW plastic newbie nuns, I've seen a fair few great alternatives to print on myminifactory. If you've already made the investment of a printer, or have a friend who did, you could get great looking actual sisters novitiates as well.

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Your Noviciates army reminds me what Warhammer has lost and what it could be found again ! ! !

[@Mjolnir007]

Nice kitbashing, although I wouldnt use mutant parts in my Sisters of Battle Army..these belong on a pyre. For the Emperor.

[@TalosLord]

My chaos cultists are build from frostgrave minis. Now I whant build more of them.

[@S0nyb1ack]

Heh, as others have pointed out - these would be amazing for sooo many games, great job! To add to the long list of games these would fit: A war transformed, Thd doomed

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

A man in the stoks welding a pistol, nice touch. 😃👍

[@w0197]

Love the non-news video. Also love Frostgrave models. Very cewl.

[@danjordan5579]

You can acually see the love those models have for you. Its amazing. Dethklok!

[@johnyunghans8504]

Loved this video - great kitbash - inspired me! Also I am a blood angels plays but if I could do it all over again I would be a sisters player 😊

[@SUFsnake]

I believe we're gunna need a Discourse Minis styled battle Report to go with this sister army.

[@PhotoReactionVideos]

Outstanding as always!!! Thank you for all your effort in putting this together 😊

[@Snake-plant]

Brilliant work, the theming here would be so much fun to play against!

[@spuriusligustinus4509]

Very cool concept of video because it allows you to promote other mini manufacturers and most importantly promote creativity in a gw world of overpriced monopose minis

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Getting ready to kitbash my Chaplin on Bike for my First Born Black Templar Crusade ! ! ! You speak wisdom when you say that the Rule of Cool is . . . Well . . . Cool ! ! !

[@HoboMeow]

I enjoyed this a lot, but I held off from watching because of the click-bait title

[@mattdahlberg5059]

Greetings from California. We appreciate your restraint

[@GitShoota]

love that u gave the dude in stocks a pistol

[@scootergsp]

Comment to appease the algorithm...🙂

[@Fliss317]

What really amuses me about the Novitiates is that they are the equivalent of Years 11 and 12 from the local comprehensive (Schola Progenia) having been given some guns and told "off you go, the heretic Astartes are over there!"

[@AcoylteKraven82]

3:40- Those look cool and I feel like I could do something very cool with them (not the same as you’re doing right now)….. but what size are they? And I don’t mean in mm!?! Like fully put together from the top of their heads down to theirs feet, are the shorter or taller then Cadians? Sisters of Battle?? (I highly doubt it, but) Space Marines??? Obviously I’m not going to use everything from this kit…… but if the sizes are too far off then it won’t look right!?!

[@ryanodoherty4090]

The dude in the stocks, with the pistol. Perfection!

[@DM_Rage]

still have my metal sisters

[@theandf]

One of your best videos, Discourse. I own all of these boxes and, while I don't play Sisters, I'm wondering: aren't these ideal for an Inquisitorial team? Ideal for Acolyte, the free fanmade Kill Team Lite based Inquisition adventure rules? PS: I agree the Novitiate models are underwhelming. Strange, given the regular Sisters are one of the best GW kits.

[@TheGlennsof]

They probably would work well for that I used Scavengers and Cultists for Chaos Mobs. Cultist+ Mercenaries or Soldiers would probably be a better choice for Inquisitor troops I think.

[@theandf]

@@TheGlennsof for Inquisitorial troops, agreed! But I'm thinking of the ragtag weirdos and mutants that sometimes form the retinue. Sort of like the official GW Inquisitorial Retinue box, only kitbashed. I'm thinking Inq28 :)

[@manofaction1807]

I play them as well. Ended up rebasing my girls, and retooling them. I was purging Chaos with my Inquisitorial Warbands before it was cool.

[@ironbomb6753]

Really cool Discourse! Great models, i hope you finnd them potent on the battlefield. 👍

[@JbTexan-od7wx]

Love seeing the creative side of our hobby dialed to 11

[@DeityDeconstruction]

I really liked this one, I like seeing kitbashing ideas

[@hobbycathartic]

Absolutely brilliant kitbash! And I really enjoyed a look behind the hobby curtain.

[@DarkNekoStudio]

Kitbashing is actually what brought me to 40k back in 4th edition.....but the Tau werent the best army for that back then.....

[@chillywilly883]

Models came out great, awesome kitbash. Northstar FTW.

[@TwitchyJax]

“Kinda weird…….but also kinda Metal”. 😆🤘

[@blkjet117]

The guy in stocks with a pistol is hilarious.

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Can't wait the see you Systers of Battle in Battle , When can we see them in action in a Battle report ?

[@rustedbeetle]

Kit bashing is the way to go. There are to many options with the different Northstar packs, and they are all interchangeable. From naked clansmen to space lizards with ray guns, and everything in between.

[@murder.simulator]

The Flatulence. A silent, but deadly unit

[@ryeloafbreadmen1080]

I very much so enjoy this kind of content. Very fun video. Good job!

[@Kinaro666]

I'm suprised you not used any House Cawdor bits from Necromunda range

[@FelixstoweFoamForge]

"Drip with malicious zeal from every pore". Good line. But I can't help but feel you missed a perfect opportunity to use the word "Orifice" there.

[@professorlaserfist8590]

These are sick! Kitbashing is always the coolest.