Fixing My Worst Design (sorry about that)

[@id744]

Whoever is responsible for the filming, editing and soundtrack is doing a fantastic job

[@inspiringbuilds]

Nice new design and I like the continuous improvement mindset. Great editing as well. 👍

[@mcmathwoodworks]

Thank you for your transparency in fixing your mistake! We all make them, but not everyone can admit it, and even fewer will show you how they fixed it… I like the new design! Keep up the good work David!

[@dalecampbell9259]

Just wanna say love the willingness to admit when a design wasn't the best. Helping us all learn how to learn.

[@Braddy_Daddy]

Chairs look even better, sleek and simple. Love seeing how the design evolved!

[@vulgarwoodworks]

1:23 Speaking of bad design.... Why does every planer on the market have their dust port on the outfeed side of the cutter block and so dang close to the bed? Don't they know we don't have miles of room for outfeed tables and our boards are going to knock the chip collection port loose 😂😂😂

[@MakeSomething]

Right?!!

[@ryanmartens5667]

Love that you came back to a project that didn't work out as well as you might have wished! Bravo! Love the new rendition!

[@Michael-Makes-Stuff]

I like might joints tight and my KZbinrs honest… 😆 Kudos for your honesty. The “fix” is even better. I appreciate you sharing this as it helps the rest of us. You are one of the good ones, David! Keep up the great work. 👍🏼

[@imaginationingrained]

Thanks for including the footage of the board knocking off your dust collection hose

[@jimrosson6702]

Thanks for sharing this with us David and showing what went wrong as a new woodworker I got a lot out of this video and how you fixed them. I think they turned out beautiful. Thanks for sharing

[@glennryzebol4472]

My first thought is that the back resst bits serve no function as you can't lean back on them anyways. function always follows form. No function? Not needed. I'm typeing my thoughts as i wacth and got to the blessing the seats part and laughed out loud. Hilarious!!! the new seats look great. Thanks for the great content.

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful work, Dave!!! 😃 They turned out even better than before! Nicely done!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@billparrish4385]

If it was me, I'd just run in a few hardwood dowels through the back and into that seat, between the screws. And use longer dowels so they would go past the line of the screws. It would further tie the back to the seat, plus reinforce the crack that the screws all in a line wedged open. But, going back to the drawing board works too. Your redesigns, like all your content, are always entertaining.

[@mrgraff77]

I can't wait till you get to a million followers, you deserve it. I like you better than those other two guys on that one podcast....😊

[@TheNewJankyWorkshop]

Great new track my friend! Also, love that you have a mini smoke machine. That is on my list of "Things I definitely do not need but want anyways". :)

[@mandyleeson1]

Really like the new design, the extra weight and I love the bum curves. Also, thanks once more for your honesty and integrity David.

[@richardanderson1152]

Nice fix!! I actually like the new design more but thats how we learn

[@MWAWoodworks]

love the redo of the design!

[@WEALRO]

If you're going to be using a grinder to power carve it's a very dangerous tool I suggest using a paddle switch version so if anything goes awry when your hand goes off it stops automatically

[@chriswindberg5010]

That shot of the finger glove with the puddle of glue around it is.... Well... Lets just say I have a terrible mind.😂

[@JaredRandal]

Love the song that starts at 1:04!! May be my favorite so far ❤

[@MakeSomething]

Oh man, thank you!

[@ChrisFranklyn]

Ah, the Gibson headstock of barstools! I like seeing a return to projects to learn.

[@kluzz]

Hah, the Les Paul headstock was the first thing I thought as well. 😅

[@alanstalker5499]

Great video as ever. As a cyclist, and used to hard seats (!), I wonder if the chair should only have the groove down the centre go half way to the back? Bit of space for the nether parts?

[@sapelesteve]

We all make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. Way to go David! Very nice alteration! 👍👍

[@sgsax]

This is a great improvement to the design. That tiny back wasn't really functional, and I think this seat just looks better overall. Sometimes a mistake is a blessing in disguise. Thanks for sharing!

[@quirkygreece]

Love the blessing - Father Dave covering all the bases, because a little extra security never goes wrong, eh? lol.

[@richball9576]

The music in the first couple minutes of the video reminds me of Numb by U2. I haven't heard anyone else use that yet. Pretty cool 😎

[@MakeSomething]

I make all my own music. 😁

[@richball9576]

@@MakeSomething awesome! I really like it!

[@comandreja]

I really love this redesign!

[@critter42]

I'd make the distinction that the DESIGN was fine - the choice of materials/engineering was the issue. Maybe a sturdier material (non-wood), different jointery, etc. I loved the look of the old stools!

[@gibberishname]

correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the problem caused by the grain orientation? but in the new design you kept the same grain orientation, so another hit could break between the fibers the same way.

[@TM_Stone]

It's good to see WoodTubers making things. Too many review tools which isn't a bad thing whatsoever but they are no longer a wood working channel. They are essentially a Den of Tools channel.

[@MakeSomething]

I personally stopped tool reviews and “reaction” videos. It’s only about making things now. It’s less views but it’s more satisfying and I just feel better about my content.

[@TM_Stone]

@@MakeSomething You make nice things, that's for sure!

[@ravenheart1439]

Give up on the budget shop did ya? I'm just glad to see an established woodworker actually doin wood work, I unsubscribed a few due to I'm sick of tool reviews, got the tool thing down, want joinery and builds, it's why I started watching woodworkers lol ..clicks and subs is all it's about these days it seems...

[@Toograced]

Whoa. Awesome video. So glad you shared this and lead us to consider good vs. poor design.

[@mststgt]

The flaw is the alignment of the boards and the resulting direction of the wood fibres you chose.

[@jlarts]

Did you write a new track? I don't recall hearing that music before, it's nice

[@Eman-hx1qw]

Nice job. Perhaps the thickness at the back is thin enough to allow a hand grab to pull out the stool from under the counter. If not a recessed pull cup in the bottom of the stool would be a nice touch and be hidden.

[@kevinmeachem2138]

You got me with the incense blessing of the project! 😂😂

[@juneritchie2498]

The new design is stellar!!

[@D-B-Cooper]

The roundover on the bottom back of the legs is a problem, it reduces footprint more than you think. If you extended the forward to back floor rails and had little knobs there, not enough to kick but to add stability. The old seat design was much more pleasing, if you routed out the bottom of the seat and glued in a piece of plywood it wouldn’t break or weigh as much. It is also possible to drill and mill out portions of the bottom structure and fill with lead, a common practice for end tables with small footprint. Or you could screw them to the floor 😁.

[@garagemonkeysan]

Great film. Cool mod to stool. Iterate! Even when it's done, it's not done. Mahalo for sharing! : )

[@MakeSomething]

I like that. Even when it’s done, it’s not done.

[@ericsimpson4045]

Very nice recuperation of better design I prefer the latest design Good Job!

[@reforzar]

Love the new seats!

[@LewHarriman]

Blessing the new design with incense... now that's what I call going the extra mile!😄 So.. is that a procedure that needs to be repeated from time to time?.. does it wear off... or is one application sufficient for eternity? (Wouldn't want to be expecting eternal bliss, only to find out a couple of decades later that the blessing has worn out and now the piece is a dang thing, instead of a regular thing.)

[@jdhannan]

Nice, um, glory shot there at 2:03 😂

[@wildflower0619]

Blessing the seats 😶‍🌫️😅😂

[@gpdoyon]

I love the new design. It’s a LOT more work, though!

[@divinenonbinary]

I’m just trying to understand what the “back” is for? Seems that it would just prevent you from sitting in an opposite direction. It sure doesn’t support anything nor helps to handle the stool?

[@TheNewJankyWorkshop]

It's the "butt stop" :)

[@espressomatic]

I would have loved to have seen you shape the seats using the best tool you have in the shop for it. The CNC router. Work smarter not harder.

[@MakeSomething]

For me it’s not about the best tool since I’m making these chairs for me and not a client. For me it’s about using the tool that’ll bring me the most joy in the moment.

[@mrmoto7682]

That new design looks great. The “blessing” scene was far out.

[@supadeluxe]

2nd design is very nice! Great improvements.

[@jlivewell]

Both designs were beautiful. Version 2.0 was another level.

[@seller559]

Love those windows 👍

[@ifbridges]

Nice! I really like this new design. (I thought the original tops looked a little too chunky for MCM design.)

[@happymanharp1378]

Seems like a lot of effort to cover for the fact that you should have paid more attention to grain direction.

[@onjofilms]

I want to invent something that when put on the legs of a four legged stool adjusts so it doesn't rock. Seems all four legged stools rock. Especially on tile.

[@mattrinne]

Maybe use his motto and subtract? One less leg makes a triangle which naturally balances itself. OR perhaps make the whole thing a bit flexy so it flexes to adapt to slight inconsistencies in the floor? All just suggestions and possibly not solutions. Best of luck in your venture!

[@onjofilms]

@@mattrinne I like the flexy idea. That's why folding tables don't rock. Good idea.

[@liameverything4444]

What about leveling feet?

[@mattrinne]

@@liameverything4444 That works until you move it and it's now on a slightly different set of undulations. Then you have to relevel the feet which means bending over to adjust one foot. It's a solution the user has to manage and doesn't manage itself.

[@davipip]

Just glue them to the floor :-p Doing a review of your own work is always insightful !

[@sportflyer]

Woodworkers love mistakes. And Dave. 😍

[@RType64]

I didn’t see your miter gauge/crosscut setup listed in the tool links, could you let me know what model that is?

[@MakeSomething]

Miter gauge is made by Harvey

[@davidburris120]

What’s the wood and the finish for the new seats?

[@MakeSomething]

Walnut but it's a slightly different color than the walnut legs. Finish is Minwax polyurethane.

[@woogaloo]

I really like the look of these now. Less blocky and more artistic.

[@WoodworkJourney]

Might be a dumb question, but would changing the grain to run 90 degrees (so back to forward) not have added a bunch more strength instead of side to side? Great video even though it got me thinking lol

[@WedoweeHandyman]

Great follow thru

[@ericdgood]

1:56 the stare of nightmares. Haha.

[@riba2233]

I really appreciate this kind of a content, thanks! :)

[@ShaneSemler]

I thought I’d would be clever and make a snarky comment about adding strings and you’d have a Les Paul, but at least two other people already mentioned Gibson. 😂

[@Dustins_Woodworking]

I like the power carving. Were they comfy? Lots of butt imprinted stools are more of a “U” shaped carving.

[@JonathanRansom]

Digging the music.

[@mattrinne]

Hey I've seen that bench before that you used outside! Havent I? Was that the one you built from the back of your truck?

[@MakeSomething]

It is. Still holding up.

[@n2darkness]

Doesn't your tailbone hit while sitting? Shouldn't there be a relief area near the small backrest?

[@reylasharp6349]

Or (hear me out) we can run the grain of the boards front to back instead of side to side... I think that would also work.

[@jeffpeters6561]

Is that a Roland Space Echo in your rack?

[@MakeSomething]

yes.

[@jeffpeters6561]

@MakeSomething that's cool, they sound great.

[@jontaylor8447]

Snazzy butt-print. I find I have a few pieces I've made that could use some design improvements - like a tambour breadbox that has a door that's a little too heavy to lift up easily. I appreciate you sharing this type of video.

[@wayneswonderarium]

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, fool me can't get fooled again 😂

[@sarinhighwind]

why did you spray paint the logo on your mitre saw?

[@Scott2148]

Lesson learnt; problem resolved.

[@Tallman-x3c]

Its wobbly as your turning the stool ... ?

[@opnorty]

Could you have simply slid the seat forward so that when it tips backward, the back of the legs hit the floor slightly before the back?

[@shanesmith4639]

Are you going to Maker Camp this year?

[@MakeSomething]

Unfortunately, not because we’ll be celebrating our 10 year anniversary!

[@shanesmith4639]

@@MakeSomething congrats! New ring video soon? Lol

[@502deth]

its like you made a gibson headstock.

[@ghijkmnop]

Ah, so the infamous Gibson Headstock problem.

[@MakeSomething]

Ha, yep!

[@ac311205]

Not following what exactly is the problem with the headstock?

[@ghijkmnop]

@@ac311205 Gibson headstocks are not built with a scarf joint, and have a pretty sharp back bend of 15-18 degrees, and are notoriously susceptible to breaking off in an accidental drop.

[@MakeSomething]

Years ago I tripped over the guitar strap of my Les Paul and the headstock immediately broke.

[@ghijkmnop]

@@MakeSomething I just completed a repair on an Epiphone 335 Dot-- my third in my relatively short luthier career. Every time, I tell them it would be cheaper to buy a new one, and every time they say that they love it and don't want a new one.

[@mkegadgets4380]

Is this gonna be a multiple video series?

[@MakeSomething]

I hope this is the last bar stool video. 🤣

[@mkegadgets4380]

@@MakeSomething I was thinking about your other designs.

[@emilevoyer123]

THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO

[@brucewelty7684]

TIMBER...SHHEEEiiitttt

[@saulgoodman2018]

Can you make it any less comfortable?

[@hookedonwood5830]

Let Gibson know of your solution. 🙂

[@ArtOfShredYT]

ha! no scarf joints on a Les Paul?!

[@mikegardner5283]

That was my first thought as well! The only difference is that Gibson isn’t going to bother redesigning their headstock.

[@riba2233]

ouch 😬

[@BenJensen-dy4lv]

Am I mistaken or is that a glue bottle full of pork 'n Beans at 2:03 ?

[@MakeSomething]

Epoxy and stones. I hate when my glue bottle gets close to being empty and wants to fall over.

[@BenJensen-dy4lv]

@@MakeSomething nice!

[@JT-hw6mq]

oh yeah, that lump in the middle of the seat that goes all the way back is gonna be totally comfortable.....🙄

[@fenceup07944931177]

Now to stop them wobbling 🤔 let's say that's the floor 😅

[@bascodelagamma]

👍

[@darrendoll]

...and, break something.

[@tobedetermined4180]

I demand a refund!

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks.....

[@mieguistumas]

Such a finger-on-the-right-arrow video. Man, you know what you're doing here. Also, never carve a butt into a chair. Not a comfortable design.

[@dian3145]

I suppose it depends on your backside! I find it spreads out the pressure and my legs don’t fall asleep.

[@tobedetermined4180]

Oh yeah, still your fault buddy. Sorry

[@paulellis84]

First like and comment! I know it's going to be good!

[@brucemitchell5637]

Nope, I'm first! 😊

[@dandavis5832]

Nice fix Dave, MasterWoodworker7834 was just being a dick

[@MakeSomething]

😁

[@joemcdonald8516]

I know, table saw guard removed for clarity… 🤷🏻‍♂

[@simonr6793]

Dan, what a relief that was when you said 10 years ago I used to be a web designer 🤔 i thought for a moment you was going to say 10 years ago I used to be a woman 😳🫣😂