Fixing Terrible Giant Propel Quality! Full Service! Complete Rebuild! 105 Shimano Setup

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In todays episode we service this next to new Giant Propel running Shimano 105. This bike had been terribly set up and almost everything needed adjusting!
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[@DOCunyeps]

It’s almost 3years after i find your channel. My go to after long working hours just watching you guys service bikes are relaxing . Cheers mate

[@Bikespeeds]

We talked about this for sometime this week. We’ve been producing the weekly videos for 3 years tomorrow, Simon is trying to buy a house and we have hopes and dreams that the channel will soon make some fast progress. Thank you very much for supporting the channel we are trying to build a future from it so you make it that bit more possible 🧡

[@themoodyteam]

6:11 ‘We put a lot of work into these videos…’ You tell because you make it look so effortless and easy! Appreciated 😊

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s a great compliment thank you 🧡

[@michaelzoeller9552]

To me, the hero of all your videos is The Big Softy brush!

[@Bikespeeds]

We literally use it every single day!🧡

[@Makke123]

This is a highlight of my day! Great job!

[@Bikespeeds]

Glad you enjoyed this one, thanks for the support!🧡

[@user-nj9li4qt8u]

My only suggestion would be to use a nickel based anti-seize grease as it's less prone to seize versus copper based.

[@lukezen81]

I love the way your videos are edited. Good pace, clear and holding on the details, a relaxing chill vibe all round. Special credit to the work and effort behind the camera.

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s a great compliment to me, I work very hard on them often doing 12 hour days sat at the computer, thanks from Simon 🧡

[@jamescalvert1ify]

I work on a lot of bikes myself and findthe BikeSpeed videos really insightful. I had not had firsthand experience of the usefulness of lining tyre marking with the valve but having suffered punctures recently it was much easier to spot the exact location of a thorn that was almost invisible, embedded in the tread. I have the big softy brush from the online shop. A recommended purchase.

[@Bikespeeds]

Wow thanks for all the support James. Thanks also for shopping with us, it is the only money we make from the videos and helps us to put them together so we really appreciate it🧡

[@wuzihuzi]

I watched the other Propel videos last night whilst I was servicing my propel and now another one!

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s awesome! They’re one of our most popular bikes on the channel so you might not be alone there🧡

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

I love my Giant Propel. Show it love and keep it clean, it'll keep going year after year.

[@Bikespeeds]

Great stuff! Enjoy it🧡

[@1972malberto]

Always lovely work well done lads.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks very much for all the support 🧡

[@gbhgbh001]

Great video. Nice to see all the works that goes in to a professional service...

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks very much!🧡

[@DeanPattrick]

Attention to detail.! Lovely video, you know i have a softspot for Giant. That will be one very happy rider 🇫🇮😎

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks Dean!🧡⚙️🇫🇮

[@KarlosEPM]

What a nice bike! Great job as always on those seemingly small details. Shifting will work as intended for sure. Thanks for the videos 🚲

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks very much!🧡

[@ajfrog699]

Do love the look of the propel and fabulous bikes. Some great work there and lucky for the rider to get it in and serviced ahead of heading out. Congratulations on getting so close 30k subscribers too 🙌

[@Bikespeeds]

Almost there! We’re still hoping for some bigger growth coming up 🧡

[@davidlutan7727]

Looks beautiful, thanks for a great video.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you David!🧡

[@cosmicwav]

A very detailed service, bravo!

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you!🧡

[@Jonnysmithwillis]

I always enjoy watching big softy. I like that large supple brush too, Lee. 😉

[@Bikespeeds]

We use it 3 times a day!🧡

[@joemcnicholas8687]

Fantastic work.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you!🧡

[@DerAngriff]

Very therapeutic to watch. Lots of tips. Customer will have a new bike. I use medium strength threadlocker on cage bolts *cleaned threads etc. I'm not a bike mech, but like to do basic maintenance, so when it reaches you guys, it's not a nightmare. Also easier on the wallet! Were you an automotive tech in a past career? I note the Snapon ratchets/torque wrench.

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s a good regime. I am not an auto tech but love my own cars and working on them! So snap on is a dream brand 🧡⚙️

[@Ericlterry]

Love your channel, inspires me to better care for my bikes

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks for watching!🧡

[@Cyclingismywholelife]

Beautiful bike, I’m hoping to buy new soon, I will make sure to go over everything just in case, this video was perfectly timed.

[@Bikespeeds]

Used bikes have a huge servicing cost that often isn’t considered, good luck buying🧡

[@paultomlinson528]

Lovely bike

[@lesley9888]

A Giant bike always fun to watch good job

[@Bikespeeds]

Agreed!🧡

[@michaelnoone7299]

Great job 👍

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you!🧡

[@davidburgess741]

I admire your thoroughness. The derailleur hanger and braze on mount would often be missed. The bikes you work on tend to be loaded with these oversights. To be fair, some of these occur over a long time and go unnoticed by the rider. A service once in a while can be very worthwhile.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you David 🧡

[@Ditypo]

lovely jubbly again.

[@Mr229357]

Nice work 😊👍🏻👍🏻

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you thank you!🧡

[@andrewgilhespie2803]

Lovely looking bike, it will now have performance to match its looks thanks to your expertise.

[@Bikespeeds]

Very kind than you!🧡

[@PistachioFilmsLLC]

beautiful job. Drew.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks very much again Drew 🧡

[@Maik1968]

Hello guys, my Wednesday evening entertainment show was safe, thanks for this and as always: greetings from Germany where the weather is good enough to take a ride on the bike again. See you soon, bye for now 😘👍🍀🌞

[@Bikespeeds]

Best of luck riding!🧡

[@darrengarvie8832]

Show you the value of a good local bike shop and the servicing that should be done by the professional bike mechanic at spotting potential failures we'll done Lee for another example bike service 👍🏻

[@Bikespeeds]

Another very kind compliment again thank you 🧡

[@johndef5075]

Love your syringe system!

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks John!🧡

[@stickmenkissarmy6907]

Fantastic ! I am thanks for the video 🎉🎉🎉

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you thank you!🧡

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you thank you!🧡

[@caseypleasant1922]

I just want to litsen to you read a book.... you have the most calming voice my friend

[@Bikespeeds]

Very kind, thanks for watching 🧡

[@jakemoore5295]

The amount of care & attention you give towards a service is admirable. Where is your shop ??

[@Bikespeeds]

Suffolk🧡⚙️

[@matskelton9589]

The devils always in the detail 👌

[@Bikespeeds]

🧡⚙️

[@Traildude193]

The bike turned out amazing after the service.

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks!🧡⚙️

[@paulburns3016]

Wow cool nice bike gtreat work guys awesome 🚴🏼‍♂️

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you Paul!🧡

[@tmark33]

Like your videos, well done excellent job 👏🏻

[@Bikespeeds]

Thanks very much! Glad you’re still enjoying the content 🧡

[@Sansuiification]

Top tip; the housing from the frame to the rear mech should be Shimano OT-RS900 for a more compliant housing over a short distance.

[@jacobgundill7969]

The Giant proprietary ones are notorious. They are so brittle. Same thing happened on my old TCR after about 1.5 years

[@mike_f]

True, unless the cable housing is one piece from lever to derailleur (like on some Treks).

[@yonglingng5640]

​@@mike_f Tarmac SL7s also require shift housings to run that way, but this frameset is compatible with any mechanical groupset, including SRAM and Campagnolo.

[@bikingchupei2447]

7:19 if you want to use these types of mirrors, use the CAT EYE BM-45, the one he has is a bit too small and the mirror won't stay in place, the only pro is you can fold to hide it.

[@drevo50]

Beautiful job which has saved the rider from a potential catastrophe. Beats me how folk ride bikes in such a state; this won't be the worst, either.

[@Bikespeeds]

Won’t be the worst or the last! Thanks for watching 🧡⚙️

[@kevinfrost1579]

Soooooothing………….great job guys. The “subtle difference” is it’s now fit to ride ! Makes you wonder if the original assembler bothered to test ride it 🤔

[@Bikespeeds]

Yes it had some questionable setting up lol🧡

[@waynebond6379]

Love all your video,s . Always learning.where would i find a list if all torque settins, cant find any for the brake blocks or front derailier or the brake mount bolts . Thank alot

[@Bikespeeds]

You’ll have to google each component separately!🧡⚙️

[@jrother]

The nested aero v-brakes is a fascinating relic from that time.

[@demonstructie]

Crazy how this era Propel has already become so dated whereas a TCR from that same model year will still look modern and current and relevant today.

[@meneldil7604]

@@demonstructie i rather have the old propel than the new one. but got no need for a new bike my tcr just keeps going

[@demonstructie]

@@meneldil7604 I'm right there with you. I think the new Propel looks much better than the generation from the video (although it may age as poorly?), but that's pretty much the only pro. Cons are that I don't want disc brakes on my road bike (although I don't want weird proprietary V-brakes like the one in the video either); it's impossible to work on with everything being internal and hydraulic; and I couldn't justify the exponential price increase of the new model over a used one from say 2016. If we compare Propel vs TCR however, I would _always_ choose the TCR over a Propel of the same model year. Same as you, my 2011 TCR is still going strong - it originally came with 10sp Ultegra but I've since upgraded to 11sp Dura Ace, and I've never ever been enticed by the Propel. I must admit that I have looked at a new TCR in a moment of weakness in the past, but my current bike is already much faster than I am so I'm not in any hurry to run out and buy something just because it's new and shiny!

[@stanzelko5243]

Look at it this way. How many accidents have you prevented. 😮

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s the way we see it, thank you!🧡

[@hennings3938]

Turned out shiny again. As always 🙂

[@Bikespeeds]

Wait till tonight’s! It’s a disco ball! Thanks again🧡

[@hennings3938]

@@Bikespeeds looking forward

[@tinniswood2577]

The owner can feel more confident now!

[@Bikespeeds]

That’s what we always want! 🧡

[@johnharris8394]

How about the shifters?

[@silvanaabela9803]

I ❤ your videos

[@Bikespeeds]

Thank you very much!🧡⚙️

[@purpleaki7135]

A lot of spacers for a Propel. How much does a service like cost you think?

[@nickwatson2213]

Great work guys, i did comment in a previous video. I wonder do you replace the chain Quick Link or re-use. what ones do you recommend. thanks Nick from Bristol.

[@meneldil7604]

i just reuse it never had a problem yet. watch me snap one tomorrow now

[@Bikespeeds]

We will reuse a quick link if we reuse a chain and replace a quick link if we replace a chain🧡

[@journeyman6752]

This just wasn't a bike service, this was a masterclass. Loved watching your attention to detail.

[@Bikespeeds]

Very very kind compliment thank you🧡

[@sakajungle]

Hi Lee! Superb service. Kinda curious here, why do you aways perform drywash in bikeframes? Any restriction in using a hose and flowing water? Best regards!

[@Bikespeeds]

They’re not as dry as they look, the floor is wet enough to take multiple mops to try. But yes being in a shop we can’t use the hose, thanks Saka🧡

[@ProffessorSeen1]

Greatly changed the saddle angle by torque the bolt. Do you try to match the angle by tightening the front bolt as well or do u just whack it to spec and move on?

[@yonglingng5640]

The front bolt is for adjusting the saddle's angle, final torque-down is done only with the rear bolt, usually 6 - 10 Nm, depending on the seatpost's manufacturer. In order to end up with the right saddle angle, you have to predict how much further back it'll tilt when you torque the rear bolt down. This takes trial and error sometimes.

[@user-zv4cy9yh6b]

Fantastic work! Can I ask a question as a detailing noob? Why don't you rinse off the soapy water after brushing?

[@Bikespeeds]

It’s not as soapy as you’d think, we dry it off and it leaves no film 🧡⚙️

[@itty9hun]

Pristine work as always!! Though, pardon, was the brake pad a bit loose in the housing at 10:14 or was that just a shadow?

[@Bikespeeds]

As far as I’m aware just a shadow!🧡⚙️

[@Papaciclista]

I would like to ask, if those wheels use sealed bearings?, thanks 👍, that is a wonderful video 😊

[@meneldil7604]

yes thay do i use to have a set

[@Bikespeeds]

Yes they are 🧡⚙️

[@johnstrac]

What were those brakes ? Not seen them before. Lovely job once again.

[@aitorbleda8267]

Lovely brakes in line with the frame... The air resistance of this bike must be quite low.. not full aero but getting there, and little drawbacks

[@yonglingng5640]

They're the bike's proprietary linear pull rim brakes, Giant named them SpeedControl. 2017 Propels and older use Fouriers' linear pull rim brakes.

[@johnstrac]

@@yonglingng5640 every day's a school day, thanks.

[@user-lx7ld2wi9z]

👍👍

[@fatknobby]

Gotta ask: how much do you charge for this deep dive? In reality the bike only needed a wipe down and adjustments.

[@samblenkharn8099]

Tidy work. Looks like a nice bike. What is that type of brake called? Haven't seen it before.

[@mislevis]

Rim brake 😊

[@yonglingng5640]

Linear pull rim brakes, it's not commonly used on road bikes, but these are aero-optimised.

[@meneldil7604]

it basically a v brake for a road bike

[@samblenkharn8099]

@@meneldil7604 I thought so looking at it. Just an unorthodox shape then

[@sherazasad3727]

Can you tell me what size bottoms brackets this bike uses ....

[@yonglingng5640]

This Propel Advanced's BB standard is BB86.

[@meneldil7604]

bb86 for some reason giant call it powercore

[@slotre]

hi . i have a waxed chain . i didnt ride for a few months due to injury . now my chain and cassette are all full of rust . i dont have a ultrosonice cleaner. whats the most effective way to get rid of rust

[@jamescalvert1ify]

Hi, while I'm not a professional, but have alot of bikes I maintain. I would suggest you have 3 options 1) Visit your local bike shop which I think the bike speed team would recommend 2) You can get good results cleaning with the brush attachments that clip onto the chain and include a water bath 3) If the chain itself had reasonable wear, buy a new one. Cleaning will remove much of the wax so should be waxed again if you clean it.

[@meneldil7604]

if it only surface rust white spirts will get rid of but it will need a full rewax

[@Bikespeeds]

Try roughing it with a brass brush, it could be too far gone and require replacing 🧡

[@Mrmik3000]

gotta clean that dust

[@chanzdad]

Another bike back to rideable condition. The build originally looks pretty slipshod. The r7000 is very smooth and enjoyable but those issues (corroded rd housing and loose fd) will absolutely ruin the riding experience ....

[@meneldil7604]

i just hope giant didn't let it out the door like that

[@geraldbraganza2617]

I don’t see you rinse the bike after the soapy wash

[@Bikespeeds]

We don’t need too! We wipe it off and remove all residues🧡

[@jeremyemilio9378]

Why didn't you remove the fork and regrease the headset and also the seatpost?

[@meneldil7604]

no need if it is smooth for headset and cant grease a carbon seatpost

[@jeremyemilio9378]

@@meneldil7604 carbon grease* and we do headset in the shop I worked in before. In fact anywhere where it was previously greased,we take it apart and regrease again,which Includes threaded on BBs and even derailleurs. Etc. Only press fit stuff are left unremoved. The reasons grease gets washed off and degrades over time

[@heinz_fiction]

Phil Collins speaking...

[@stanleymustacheshaver8879]

I love your content, but dude! On 11:37 by tightening only one bolt on the seat post you can litreally see the saddle tilt back, please do not do that. That subtle difference can make the riders position change quite a lot

[@yonglingng5640]

It may have been predicted beforehand, that's how you work with this kind of saddle clamp.

[@Bikespeeds]

We squared this up off camera level with the floor, you can’t do this unless both wheels are keeping the bike flat🧡