Giving EVERY Monotype Starter a Second Type

Have you ever thought about what type Meganium could have if it had a second type? Well join me as I choose a type for each monotype starter Pokémon based on their designs and backstory to give them a breath of fresh air!
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[@nazeersadek6705]

4:43 dude plesiosaurs are water lizards that had fins they look very similar to Lapras. The word you’re looking for is Sauropods

[@OKreations]

Omg you’re so right my b! Thanks for the correction!

[@nazeersadek6705]

@@OKreations no worries I’m a little Dino nerd so when I heard you say plesiosaur I couldn’t help myself but to write the comment 😅

[@OKreations]

I understand😂

[@ChandelureDominic]

⁠@@OKreations 0:24 shoutout to the only seven mono type starters

[@OKreations]

I didn’t wanna put the gen 8 starters there because they don’t animate

[@joaocisne556]

I would give meganium the fairy type

[@partimentieveryday]

or normal

[@lucastheodoro4188]

@@partimentieveryday It's the most normal starter EVER tbh

[@partimentieveryday]

@@lucastheodoro4188 I’ve always thought that as well. Normal just fits for meganium. Honestly it fits with typhlosion as well. Gen 2 starters were a little bit… normal.

[@SuperNintendoDisneyAdam]

Same here

[@BananaR777]

I vvish meg haf alt form where it was grass electric

[@davidc.lalnelawma4776]

I feel like the Johto guys were made to be THE monotype trio

[@SymbioticVader]

Gen 8 is mono done worse

[@eumesmo3208]

​@@SymbioticVadercan't be worse than the literal worst designed starters ever

[@_WiZ420]

I’m making a few type changes to my rom hack, the base Johto starters’ typings ain’t one of em. I just like the idea of having at least ONE good pure typer

[@CharlesCurtisIII]

@@eumesmo3208Gen 8 & 9 are tied for the worst starters

[@HKip]

I really dont think that was the intention, since we know they are rushed and got added late into development

[@capitalwenisberry2052]

I love Mega Blastoise, but it should have been Water/Steel and I stand by that

[@OKreations]

Trooooo

[@AmericanMario-E]

Blastoise in general should have been Water-Steel

[@frankchen4229]

@@AmericanMario-E Venusaur wouldn't be at an advantage then

[@OKreations]

So

[@Luxazar]

I geniuenly like the idea of Blastoise being Water/Rock type more, mostly just because the shell reminds me alot of an actual boulder

[@CosmicCoyote9]

Ngl Typhlosion seems like a fire-normal type of

[@Peacedripper]

Why?

[@CosmicCoyote9]

@@Peacedripper idk

[@OKreations]

It could work

[@GreyLeo]

​@@Peacedripper because of its simple design. Mainly it actually feels like it could have been an ancient furret that adapted to it's environment learning how to use fire

[@-Metonia-]

I like the idea of him being fighting, what do you guys think? ("Yet ANOTHER fire fighting" lol)

[@d.c.courtney4953]

Rillaboom could have a hidden ability called percussion or something like that. It would make all sound based moves use the attack stat.

[@OKreations]

That would be really cool I like this idea

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Maybe, but considering its lore of how his music returns vitality to plants, grassy surge just works very well

[@panjhisahelsenordelospalil1717]

Honestly that would just kill Rilaboon's viability

[@goolgepl2112]

Dunno if that's a good idea, but it does make sense, using your physical strength to pound a drum that causes special type damage

[@erechbrown758]

Exactly! Gen 8 starters Pokémon such a huge disappointment, all we want is Fire/Electric starters for Scorbunny and Water/Ghost for Sobble.

[@malachaiaguilar4634]

I thought this is what everyone thought ngl

[@OKreations]

Ikrrrr

[@zimonzieclown1633]

Might as well finish out with Grass/Dark for Grookey then.

[@bryantheang4063]

Scorbunny= Fire/Fighting Sobble=Water/Dark Grookey=Grass

[@zimonzieclown1633]

@@bryantheang4063 Absolutely not! We do NOT need another Fire/Fighting starter, or another Water/Dark for that matter.

[@VegaPhil]

Inteleon speaks psychic to me, using its intellect for spying

[@gigifabulous]

Here's what I would have done; Blastoise: Water/Steel (since Squirtle's shell is based on a rusty coin too) Meganium: Grass/Fairy (Since its breath brings plants back to life, similar to the Florges line) Typhlosion: Fire/Ground (same reasoning as yours, very volcano inspired) Feraligatr: Water/Dragon (It learns quite a few Dragon moves like Dragon Tail, Dragon Claw, Dragon Dance, Outrage, Scale Shot and Breaking Swipe) Sceptile: Grass/Dragon (It's very reminiscent of a Velociraptor, plus Dragon type E4 Drayton uses one.) Serperior: Grass/Dragon (Dragons have always had the kind of prestige associated with royalty, plus there's large mythological snakes like the Basilisk) Samurott: Water/Fighting (It would be the perfect counter to its Hisuian forme, plus its dex entries mention training a fighting style like many fighting types.) Rillaboom: Grass/Ground (it gets A LOT of Ground type moves, plus you could interpret its drumming as sounding like an earthquake.) Cinderace: Fire/Electric (Just because I don't want another Fire/Fighting type, plus he can be lightning fast. It just needs more Electric moves than Electro Ball) Inteleon: Water/Ghost (Completely agree with the reasoning that Ghost type fits its invisibility, as many Ghost types turn invisible too.)

[@OfcItsLonnie]

This is the one. I was looking at the screen like “what? there are way better options.”

[@DeoVenator]

serperior and sceptile deserve dragon typing more than anything else, i didn't like how you wouldn't allow them to have that typing just because you already used it with meganium (even though blaziken and infernape were both fire/fighting)

[@OKreations]

Fair enough! Did I say that was the reasoning? I feel like I just wanted some diversity between the mega, it’d be kinda like thinking about when to Tera

[@Gichou014]

Out of the three, sceptile is the weirdest being a dragon. Serperior or Meganium are by far a lot better

[@kacangajaib1563]

@@Gichou014 Sceptile are in Dragon Egg group while Serperior and Meganium dont so...

[@Gichou014]

@@kacangajaib1563 like that matters anything... This is so inconsistent

[@finnhumane]

i could see dragon or fairy. if snivy is a starter in z-a and gets a mega, then i would like him to gain the dragon type. if he doesn’t, then adding fairy to his base would make more sense.

[@Tejroe]

Typhlosion would be much better suited as a Fire/Normal type. Typhlosion takes inspiration from a rodent, and most rodents in the Pokémon canon are aligned with the Normal type. Also, Normal moves make up a plurality of Typhlosion’s movepool, behind Fire type. And lastly, when looking at Typhlosion’s design, the complete lack of any standout features really adds to its “normalness.” Not to mention, Fire/Normal would’ve been an amazing contradiction to its Hisuian form, which is Fire/Ghost. IMO, Typhlosion would’ve been an absolute beast if it were Fire/Normal with Adaptability as its HA.

[@sussybaka-9796]

It’s literally classified as the Volcano Pokémon, what are you yapping about

[@OKreations]

Got eem

[@sun1v45]

@@sussybaka-9796 but zekrom is classified as the Black void pokemon, dosent make it dark type

[@panjhisahelsenordelospalil1717]

Dude the thing has a literal Volcano on its neck wdym with "No standout features"

[@TerrariaTree1]

​@@panjhisahelsenordelospalil1717Stop exaggerating it's just fire spewing out not a volcano, plus with how very simple it's design is and how it's very similar to rodent pokemon, normal fits it very well

[@samable7724]

I would give Typhlosion the Normal type, as it feels like it could fit, plus stab normal attacks could be nice

[@OKreations]

I agree I think that could work!

[@goolgepl2112]

If you've already accounted for the fire type with the burning quills, it is quite a regular mammal like Furret and Raticate after all

[@nc5958]

I don't think all starter Pokémon need a secondary type. However, I believe a few starter Pokémon would benefit from a secondary type and improved level up learnsets to take advantage of it. For example, Grovyle and Sceptile should have been Grass-Dragon type. When Treecko evolves at Level 16, Fury Cutter is a terrible move for Grovyle to learn. This is the perfect time for Grovyle to learn Dragonbreath because it will actually help Grovyle and Sceptile with all the early-mid game gyms they struggle with.

[@jockson7574]

Blastoise deserves a second type

[@nc5958]

@@jockson7574 I wonder how a Water-Ice type Blastoise would be. He would gain more weaknesses but STAB Ice Beam or Blizzard would give him an easier time vs. Grass Type Pokémon. I am surprised that there is still no Water-Ice type starter Pokémon.

[@jockson7574]

@@nc5958 yeah or maybe water rock. Everyone is saying water steel but steel would make it a bit vulnerable to Charizard

[@BaconNuke]

Honestly I just have that feeling that starters *should* get secondary typings because they are your first mon in a game, they're who you bond with so there should be a "reward" for having them around.. like.. okay Johto I get, early gen I can get the vibes of not having that ideology down (personally would have been cool for Feraligatr to be only dual type as like.. inverse of Kanto) but Galar? The 8th gen?! I literally have so many other better options for each type.. like mono grass is not good so 90% of dual type grass are better choices *at least* Like it felt weird being like "welp my reward for training you is... uhh... nothing.. could have grabbed anything else to cover the same stuff *plus* STAB in another type"

[@nc5958]

@@BaconNuke I think they decided to not give the Galar starter Pokémon a secondary type because it was the 20th anniversary of Gold and Silver in Japan. That is the only reason I can think of for why they broke the tradition once in the new games.

[@samguercho]

Inteleon can become invisible, fly, control highly pressured streams and pierce through targets weaknesses... I would give him the psychic type, trying to make his "magic" look like 007 skills

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

I think the reason we don't see Dragon in starter trios is just because it would remove the ability for the Pokemon they're supposed to be weak against to hit them super effectively. However, this could be circumvented the same way the Sinnoh trio did, by making that other Pokemon's secondary type still able to hit them hard.

[@sparkypikachu7776]

I mean i dunno personally i feel like a long as it's the last evo or doesen't really matter, you're going to have a ton of options even before level 36

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

@@sparkypikachu7776 Yeah, you will have options, but that's not the point - The point is just how they fare against each other.

[@12inter88]

Blastoise - Water/Steel Meganium - Grass/Fairy Typhlosion - Fire/Ground Feraligator - Water/Dark Sceptile - Grass/Dragon

[@ivanbluecool]

Yeah why isn't Blastoise a steel type? It's literally carrying cannons and it would have been a perfect balance for the types being immune to poison from vena and strong to flying. Plus gen 1 definitely needed more dual types. Gen two I'd make them grass fairy water dark fire electric as I can see cinda line having static fur and storms can cause fires. Mega would be more interesting as a fairy type to give more options. Toda line dark would be hax Treeko line dark or dragon is cool but I'd love to see grass steel as it basically sharpens itself like a sword to fight and would be very powerful that way too. Sure fire destorys it but more options to cut down foes Snivy line I'd go with fairy as a mythical creature that sheds it's arms and legs to become a snek. Sounds cool

[@OKreations]

Grass steel is a fun idea!

[@ivanbluecool]

@@OKreations plus it became a top tier pokemon with ferrathorn.

[@nazeersadek6705]

Someone clearly haven’t seen Serperior back sprite lol the hands are behind its back

[@Fahootaef]

Steel didnt exist when it was made lmao

[@nazeersadek6705]

@@Fahootaef magnemite line got the steel type in gen 2 even though it’s a gen 1 Pokémon

[@cobaltprime9467]

Meganium should’ve gotten the Fairy type in Gen 6. I will die on that hill. It should have fairy moves too. Can’t believe it didn’t get 1 damaging one. And that the Tera raid was psychic was just salt in the wound to me. I guess that means GameFreak sees it as more psychic than anything. Edit: Honestly it seems to me GameFreak thinks the Tera raids work as a way of saying “this is what it would be if we thought of it” or as a kind of 3rd type. With the exception of the Typhlosion and Samurott raids. Those were more so they could counter their Hisuian counterparts.

[@InsaneGarrison25]

While Samurott isn't an insect/anthropod its samurai-themed shells provides some connection with Bug typing. The anime had a Bug Catcher that wore samurai armor and Rhinoceros beetles in japan(kabutomushi) are named after samurai helmets(kabuto) + Megahorn was even the signature of a rhinoceros beetle mon

[@claudionosotti8812]

Meganium, a pokemon infamously ridden with too many weaknesses to work as the bulky supporter it was meant to be, should've gotten the type that added another weakness on top of that and to one of the best type in the game too. Yeah, it checks lmao. You guys should just stop seeing pink and immediately going to the fairy type route. Grass - Dragon fits perfectly.

[@volcanbolt12]

​​​@@claudionosotti8812I seriously doubt people picked the Fairy type simply because it's pink; it's more likely because of its usual kind demeanor in the dex entries. Besides, if we want to take its recent Tera Raid into account, apparently GameFreak sees the Psychic type more fitting for Meganium than Dragon, so... 😅

[@cobaltprime9467]

@@claudionosotti8812 it has 0 to do with pink, there’s barely any pink, and everything to do with it being able to bring plants back to life. It has a mystical connection to nature that goes beyond just being a grass type and they even reflected that in Pokémon Snap. Before the fairy type was added, psychic would’ve fit it better than pure grass, since it was the de facto magic type. Fairies have a connection to nature which is why Celebi should’ve been changed too. Nature magic is the same as fairy magic. Meganium calls on that more than any other non-psychic grass Pokémon. It being a dinosaur is the only thing that gives the impression of the dragon type. But it doesn’t call upon the same draconic energy the dragons do. Aurorus, Rampardos, Basdiodon, and even the pseudo dragon Aerodactyl are directly based on dinosaurs and the only fossil Pokemon that got the dragon type was Tyrantrum which really only got it as it’s based on the T-Rex the “king” of the dinosaurs. Aurorus is even a similar species of dinosaur to Meganium but since it has a different type of energy, ice, it isn’t a dragon. Meganium can be a pseudo dragon like Charizard, Gyarados, and Aerodactyl, as they’re not dragons but can summon that energy and look like dragons too, but its strong connection to nature matches the fairy type more.

[@cobaltprime9467]

@@volcanbolt12 Meganium is mostly green anyway. Its petal collar is the only pink on it. And it could be yellow or blue and it’d still be more nature magic than dragon magic. So the fairy type would apply to it regardless. Psychic would have been its de facto type prior to the fairy type since even Celebi the literal fairy onion pokemon is psychic. And it too should’ve been changed to fairy type. The only pink on Celebi is its shiny form, and that was more or less a randomized pallet.

[@holyelephantmg8838]

8:42 “No other type to portray its regal side” Primarina, a Fairy type clown: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@OKreations]

I’m glad types are given to pokemon for different reasons

[@Graboid104]

Ngl I thought primarina was based on a Siren

[@OKreations]

Think she is

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

Meganium needs one of a few things, a support type like normal to buff out its move set with a few good TMS, a powerhouse type like Fairy or Psychic, or maybe something something completely different Edit: Chikorita supremacy

[@TOSH-vi6dr]

I’ll stand by this, starters should always be dual typing

[@Doomzdeh]

Before Watching the Video: Blastoise - Water/Steel (Gives us another Steel Starter and its pumps makes sense with Steel. Just introduce Steel a Gen earlier. Kids will be surprised and excited when Blastoise has a secondary typing that they didn’t see on any other Gen 1 Mon (except Magnemite, if they saw that one). Plus, Blastoise is now immune to Venasaur’s poison attacks) Meganium - Grass/Dragon (Gives Gen 2 a second Dragon, while also fitting Meganium’s theme) Feraligatr - Water/Ice (Feraligatr’s main coverage move is Ice Fang, and it’s pads may be said to be for insulation, as alligators are cold-blooded and prefer warmer waters. Plus, Ice badly needs a good rep for the early Gens and this allows Feraligatr to be of better use against Clair and Lance) Typhlosion - Fire/Ground (Main move is legit Eruption, and Cyndaquil is based on an Echidna, which is known to use its sharp claws to burrow underground) Sceptile - Grass/Dark (Sceptile is legit known for being kinda shifty. In the anime, Treecko has a toothpick in its mouth. In Mystery Dungeon, Grovyle is seen as a thief for most of the game) Serperior - Grass/Poison (Serperior is literally a snake. And its main tool, Coil, is Poison Type. Its designation as regal kinda reminds me of Poison, which Royalty kinda symbolized due to their underhanded tactics and toxic vices. Plus, Serperior reminds me of a King Cobra, which is highly venomous) Samurott - Water/Rock (Samurott’s armor and shells just seem to make Rock the obvious choice) Rillaboom - Grass/Dark (Rillaboom’s main thing is music, which is associated with Dark in Galar via Team Yell. Its long hair may be seen as a rebellious thing and its drums kinda signify a rock theme anyway) Inteleon - Water/Ghost (This lizard is legit a ghost. It is a spy that is an expert at camouflage and evasion) Cinderace - Fire/Fighting (Legit a soccer player)

[@jdog3609]

You were valid until you said we needed ANOTHER fire/fighting starter

[@VULCAN103]

Cinderace could be fire/electric

[@Doomzdeh]

@@jdog3609 Didn’t say we NEEDED one. I don’t want another one, but Cinderace legit fits the type in every single conceivable way. The soccer player aesthetic is textbook Fighting Type. It would need a full redesign to be a Fire/Electric. Plus, if Rillaboom was Grass/Dark and Inteleon was Water/Ghost, you could make a full circle of secondary types with Dark beating Ghost, Ghost being immune to Fighting, and Fighting beating Dark.

[@Doomzdeh]

@@VULCAN103 The soccer player aesthetic is textbook Fighting Type. It would need a full redesign to be a Fire/Electric.

[@VULCAN103]

@@Doomzdeh region form 👍

[@Fox-Locks]

"Justice for Meganium✊😔" I feel you😭😭

[@Elleore]

This is really neat, I enjoyed the video!

[@OKreations]

Glad to hear it!

[@RobertLydonReviews]

Your video appeared in my recommended and from the icon alone I instantly thought I respect that idea. Then you gave my fave starter the steel type which I’ve always thought it should have too. You have earned my sub

[@OKreations]

Hey I appreciate the comment! I’m glad you enjoyed!🫡

[@themoderndaygamer637]

Meganium could also get fairy typing as the flowery-ness is a bit fairy like

[@Pixelbee_3]

Love this!!! I'd honestly wanna draw the bois with your secondary type in mind

[@OKreations]

Go for it!

[@Pixelbee_3]

@@OKreations thx you!!!

[@skeepodoop5197]

Here's what I'd do (I haven't watched the video yet). Blastoise: Water/Steel Meganium: Grass/Fairy Typhlosion: Fire/Ground (Ground because it's called the Volcano Pokemon) Feraligatr: Water/Dark Sceptile: Grass/Steel (Not dragon because that would be broken. Steel because of their leaves being as sharp as swords) Serperior: Grass/Dark (Like Feraligatr, it is described as intimidating) Samurott: Water/Rock (Shells are made from primarily minerals) Rillaboom: Grass/Normal (Normal because it is a stand in for the sound type) Cinderace: Fire/Fighting (haters be damned) Inteleon: Water/Flying (for crying out loud it has a wing suit)

[@adantelee5017]

These would be my picks Blastoise: Water,Steel Meganium: Grass,Fairy Typhlosion: Fire,Rock Feraligator: Water,Dragon Sceptile: Grass,Dragon Serperior: Grass,Dragon Samorout: Water,Steel Rillaboom: Grass,Fighting Cinderace: Fire,Electric Inteleon: Water,Ghost

[@OKreations]

Love the water steel samurott

[@adantelee5017]

@@OKreations me personally I wouldn’t give any starter the secondary Normal type as aside from a Ghost type immunity, they really wouldn’t really change at all, for me this goes down for other normal types like all the Normal,Flying types, Pyraoar line, Heliolisk line, Azurill (even though it definitely should’ve been Water,Fairy like its evolutions), Wigglytuff line, Sawsbuck line, Hisuian Zoroark line, Drampa, Obstagoon line, both forms of Indeedee, Girafirig line, Ursuluna, Wyrdeer, Arboliva line, Cyclizar, & Grafaiai,

[@OKreations]

Fair

[@_GLXC]

This mans coming up with typings for future legends forms

[@OKreations]

👀

[@kevandre]

I've always thought that the bulb things on Sceptile's back looked like electric like tesla coils or whatever

[@OKreations]

It does kinda look like that but they are actually seeds!

[@emmanuelthome9509]

Meganium is só bad that giving a dragon type makes it balanced

[@rotciv557]

Ngl, I also spat my drink out when I heard you cal Meganium a plesiosaur. Like, I get why you made the mistake but still, almost choked myself from giggling with my mouth full

[@OKreations]

Amazing😂 yeah I did NOT check that at all that’s on me lol, meant sauropod

[@jamesveronese6519]

I was initially gonna say poison for Intelleon but as soon as ghost came into the equation I was sold. Really love your choices here.

[@OKreations]

Thanks I appreciate the feedback!

[@IceFlower22]

I have to say, i love the theming of the dual types for the gen 8 starters! Ghost just works so well for inteleon's spy theme together with the other two's fighting and normal to tell a story. Honestly just love that!

[@OKreations]

Glad you liked it! I appreciate it!

[@IceFlower22]

@@OKreations :)

[@lexyinspace]

Wow I literally agreed with every pick, good job.

[@OKreations]

Thanks lexy!

[@lexyinspace]

@@OKreations :D

[@sirmagnemiteiii8689]

I feel like Inteleon would make sense to be a Water/Psychic type, based on the description of how it analyzes it’s opponents and uses that to hit weak spots, it just feels a bit too psychic for me but i can see how the other types could work as well

[@harukio7265]

If samurott was given the steel type it will make a chain with the starters ( fairy fighting and steel)

[@morbontg]

Serperior as a snake just needed the secondary Normal typing.

[@fakhrulzainal5384]

Serperior: Grass/Dragon Meganium: Grass/Fairy

[@DurvankurKharat]

For balancing out the Unova starters, I would give Samurott a steel type if Serperior has fairy type. Just how Emboar has Fighting type allready and its weaker to fairy which you to Serperior.

[@Nachobadd]

GameFreak got too obsessed with the "gun" part of Inteleon and gave them HA Sniper, Special move Snipe Shot and Gigantamax Sniper. Instead of following the Spy with gadgets theme and giving them Ghost type with Infiltrator or something like that.

[@julioflores5946]

I think fire/fighting should never be used again on a starter. Make Cinderace Fire/Electric.

[@kevinumana3582]

honestly grass/dark on sceptile is fine cause he's fast and frail so at this point so have so many weaknesses doesn't really hurt its role in being a fast attacker/mix attacker but at the same time still feel it deserves the dragon typing

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Btw Dragon actually fits more on Serperior. In various legends dragons are known to be kings, symbols of royalty and to have a very dignified dispositions Fairy is better of on pokemon that represent fantasy creatures known for either its cutesy and nurturing nature or for a mischievious and cruel disposition

[@PsiPaula4]

Plus then Serperior could do Contrary Draco Meteor.

[@zeejay92]

The biggest issue with your idea for the Johto starters is that now Feraligatr has a massive advantage of having an easy 4x super effective moveset on both Typhlosion and Meganium, and they only get 2x max against it.

[@DSmaster8585]

I could see Typhlosion being Fire/Poison! Mainly due to the smoke/soot aspect of volcanic eruptions

[@Magma-Idiot-2001]

It's funny how spp pointed out the gen 2 dual typings perfectly.

[@jakeroksandich101]

I’ve thrown dragon claw on every sceptile play through he’s always been a dragon in my head

[@OKreations]

Nice

[@TrvisXXIII]

I truly hope Rillaboom’s 3D model gets updated in later games. That sprite work of it tells me it’s a great design that got failed by the art direction of the game

[@sujoy1012]

Meganium having Grass/Fairy sounds more likely though... Since most fairies are also associated with flowers... & Serperior Grass/Dragon actually works since before gen 6 Dragons were portrayed to be the Royalty (Strongest) of all typings.

[@KovoN]

Inteleon with Ghost-type gives me Starcraft Ghost vibes its gmax even looks like a nuke cloud

[@emiliohernandez7214]

As a kid i always thought Feraligatr was part Dark Type Imagine my surprise lol

[@richcantgame]

I like dual type Mons on average more than mono type ones, I would take almost all of these in an instant.

[@koltensmith3974]

Meganium should be grass and fairy, lol

[@Xabieruuu]

when i first saw inteleon i thought it was a bug type because of its appearance lol

[@moomilk9077]

Don't let the dummies in the comments get to you. This was a very fun, fresh, and creative video! Keep up the good work!

[@OKreations]

Thanks so much I appreciate it!

[@aminoritysreport8061]

I would’ve had Inteleon be Wayer Psychic, Rillaboom as Grass Dark, and Cindersce as Fire Fighting, so there’s synergy between the secondary types as well

[@Dracointox.]

Remember that initial types are specifically set up to resist and be effective with each other. Blastoise cannot be steel type because then it would no longer be weak to the plant and the triangle would break. I would have put rock as secondary oh, and it also loses fire resistance, so the triangle breaks even more. again, rock would have been best.

[@OKreations]

I simply do not care about 4x weakness, if anything it helps as long as you have a resist or immunity in the back to pivot into, just requires some forethought to work around

[@darthfastball1150]

Great video!

[@OKreations]

Thanks so much dood!

[@mrlinnet96]

I really liked your pick for the second types to the starters, because most of them are what I thought would also fit. Here are a few second types that I think could fit for the starters: Meganium - Grass/Fairy (cause of Meganium healing nature.) Typhlosion - Fire/Dark (since honey badger's are fierce.) Sceptile - Grass/Electric (Sceptile is fast and that Mega Sceptile get's the Lightning Rod ability.) Serperior - Grass/Steel (cause of Serperiors bulk.) Rillaboom - Grass/Fighting (can learn a lot of Fighting moves.) Cinderace - Fire/Electric (cause of Cinderace speed.) Inteleon - Water/Flying (Inteleon can glide and that air is invisible.)

[@OkayOshawott]

Meganium receiving Dragon is 100% deserved. It is already considered the worst starter power wise, and is also the most overlooked starter. Receiving the Dragon type could really make it fair

[@amamiyaharuto8407]

Gen 2 is really tell "Normal" if they're a dual type 😂

[@fazul5674]

I think it would be really interesting if Blastoise gained the normal type because it had Skull Bash as its signature move

[@OKreations]

I feel like a single move isn’t quite enough to give a typing to a pokemon tho imo

[@ninjakirby777]

Here’s my unique reason for serperior having the Grass fairy typing that I’d want it to have. The reason why is because Serperior is apparently based on the Fleur de lis, and in pokemon the move Fleur Cannon is a fairy type move. In fact it’s the fairy type equivalent of leaf storm and the often requested for serperior Draco meteor, perfect for use with it’s contratry ability.

[@OKreations]

Boom

[@WIERXI]

Meganium should be fairy in my opinion (also Meganium is a Brachiosaurus/Brontosaurus)

[@HakumeiTenshi]

"Cinderace hits his opponents with flaming rocks. Let's make him Fire/Fighting!" Yeah you lost me.

[@OKreations]

I said a little more than that but cool haha

[@HakumeiTenshi]

@OKreations Even so, before Gen 8 we had the the slew of Fire fighting types between Blaziken, Infernape, and Emboar, and even though Incinaroar is a Dark type he might as well be a Fighting type as a wrestler. Another Fire Fighting type is the last thing we want

[@OKreations]

Yeah but like it wasn’t, I’d say a gap of two gens is good enough😂

[@charsage1036]

Another thing to add to dark type feraligatr think about how Alligators act especially when hunting they are suprising stealthy and how they kill is literally called a death role as it extremely effective and also brutal it is. Also counter point to serperior is dragon works just as well as fairy if not better as dragon are also shown as regal creatures in some tales and stories and one of the main dragon types is the snake like dragons.

[@doozsromhacks]

yea bro is crazy with the serp take

[@OKreations]

Nuh uh

[@charsage1036]

@doozsromhacks insanity is in my bloodline so checks out. Also what is so crazy about the dragon type yet again dragons are sometimes as Serpents and as regal creatures in my opinion it's similar to fairy type argument.

[@charsage1036]

@OKreations danm I just really got nuh nu by someone.

[@bryansabili]

Fans: *makes an idea that totally makes sense* game freak (freeza meme): I'll ignore that

[@richardchapman127]

Rillabom should be grass/psychic because music can make someone feel different emotion

[@hyphurr.rarelypostsifever1220]

I would’ve 100% made Feraligatr the Dragon type. Other than Charizard, it’s the most draconic looking starter, to me. It’s also my favorite starter, and dragon is my favorite type, so that could be swaying my thought process a bit, but I still feel like it’s a perfect match.

[@Camoroy0400]

How the heck did I not realized there was not a single starters if not counting Eevee, that is a normal type, Terestalizing doesn't count and the abilities that changes the type of the Pokemons.

[@hendrik1769]

Honestly Typhlosion gives me huge normal vibes.

[@Mybrainhurts69420]

6:54 same dude it's sad

[@kirbstagoontheaxolotl]

Sceptile being a Grass/Dark type makes even more sense if you think about how Grovyle was portrayed in the PMD Explorers games - Looking like a heinous, shifty villain when it isn't, especially with it's wanted poster. I think it's more of a dark type like Absol by appearence and demeanour, something people think is bad but really isn't. Hell, the PMD games are what made me think Grovyle was dark type for a long time, and then when I finally got Omega Ruby I got the shock of my life seeing it as a mono grass type

[@OKreations]

Love it

[@explodingcabage19]

What if Sceptile was grass/flying? It has a great speed stat, is depicted moving very agile, and is said to swiftly jump from tree to tree. Its sort of like early dinosuars that glide around the forest.

[@OKreations]

I don’t think I’ve seen him glide before tho!

[@explodingcabage19]

@@OKreations Sceptile can't glide but I was using it to compare how the dinosaurs would jump around in trees like Sceptile's pokedex desciption. I thought it would work like how Charizard trades its flying for dragon when it mega evolves.

[@PopIkiru]

I think the problem with rillaboom is that there were a lot of “sound based” mons that were introduced in the same generation that would have probably justified the addition of the “sound” type, and without that it’s hard to figure out a backup type since it wasn’t added

[@scribbles24]

I think inteleon would work better with psychic because of mind games and similar

[@Robin280497]

What you didn't take into account is that while a secondary Type Triangle isn't needed, what is needed is that the Type combination still results in the Pokémon being weak to at least one of its original counter's STAB Moves. For example, Blastoise can't be Water/Steel, because then it wouldn't be weak to Venusaur (even immune to Poison). That's why Empoleon works, because Torterra becomes Ground. (Same Stage, so Water/Steel Prinplup can't work either.) However, anything else is fair, even being able to counter the Pokémon you're supposed to be weak to, as is the case with Torterra's Ground countering Infernape, Infernape's Fighting countering Empoleon (and even Fire no longer being resisted), and Meowscarada's Dark countering Skeledirge. Also, Mega Charizard X and Mega Sceptile, due to their Dragon-Type, are no longer weak to the STABs of Blastoise and Blaziken respectively (even in their own Mega), thus proving that Mega Evolution allows the main rule to be bypassed. So here's my pitch for different choices if they had to get a 2nd Type: Blastoise: Water/Rock, but Mega Blastoise becomes Water/Steel. Meganium: Grass/Psychic (due to the Screens, though will become even worse against Bugsy and Morty). Samurott: Water/Fighting, while Emboar becomes Fire/Rock (for STAB Reckless Head Smash).

[@OKreations]

Hey thanks for the comment, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. In my opinion, the type triangle BARELY matters by the time you and your rival(s) reach the final stage evolution. By that time, each trainer should have access to or already have caught pokemon to counter whatever type combo your starter has. Especially with the dragon typing tho, I could see delaying the final evo until 40 or 42 so the trainer has a more difficult time reaching that special typing and still having to struggle against the rival’s starter

[@henriquevonmuhlen5845]

3:25 one could also argue that because feraligatr is a beastly creature and most beast-like Pokemon have the normal type, he could have the normal type.

[@timothyspencer8652]

Typhlosion would be a beast as fire/normal and one I don’t see many people talk about here is intellion being water/psychic

[@thenotsogreatape933]

Great list but I feel like just based of movepools and abilities, Meganium should be Grass-Psychic, and Sceptile should be Grass-Electric. Meganium learns a bunch of psychic support moves like reflect lightscreen heal pulse and rest, Im also pretty sure that aside from grass and normal it gets the most psychic moves. For Scpetile, once it mega evolves its ability becomes lightning rod, and although it doesnt get much electric moves I feel like it fits more with the design of sceptile (it has those glowy yellow things on the back and the tree tail can be used to absorb electric moves)

[@Guava11534]

Probably not a great typing but I would have given typhloosion normal typing. He looks like a normal beast out in the wild with fire spewing out its neck so I think it fits.

[@theguntersadopt3268]

I always felt cinderace should be fire lightning. Because soccer players are fast and rabbits are fast

[@OKreations]

I feel like something being fast isn’t enough to give electric ya know

[@tonibrojoker8978]

We don't need no more fire/fighting types lol... I'd make Cinderace a Fire/Electric type cause his trailer had him running super fast 🐇💨 Moves: Wildcharge & Volt switch

[@OKreations]

In my opinion I don’t think something being fast automaticallly equals electric, I think this would require a design change

[@Gigabowser20]

What's the name of the song at the beginning? I know it's front eh games but can't remember or find the name for the life of me!

[@OKreations]

Driftveil city!

[@Gigabowser20]

Thank you! It was on the top of my brain but I just couldn't remember lol

[@OKreations]

No worries!

[@thorzap1374]

Great video! Though, I think I'd swap Blastoise and Samurott as Water/Rock and Water/Steel respectively. I also think I'd make Typhlosion a Fire/Normal to contrast the Hisuian Fire/Ghost. Lastly, I think I'd make Cinderace a Fire/Electric, honestly. That was the typing I first thought of when Scorbunny was revealed

[@Cardinalsqr]

The only things that I disagree with here are the typings of Serperior and Meganium. I think that Meganium fits fairy type was more and Serperior fits dragon so much better. Dragon is a far more regal type imo and Serperior literally looks like a grass type dragonair

[@OKreations]

Fair enough!

[@BaconNuke]

What always bothers me when people are like "oh but if they had xyz type their learnset doesn't support the STAB outside of tms" well.. if the type *was* part of it they would have naturally gotten more of those moves since that is logical (I just ignoring lots of the very early gens lack of STAB for mons) so I'm glad you mostly took "vibes" into consideration and just said "yeah they don't currently have the moves but they'd get them" I'm also glad you didn't do the "oh the Mega is xyz so we'll just slap that on" when.. Megas aren't even set in stone ie some replace types like Mega Charizard X or Mega Altaria while Mega Aggron *loses* Rock outright with no replacement.. so.. having Sceptile change actually still is perfectly logical Personally I would have made Meganium the Grass/Fairy and Serperior the Grass/Dragon since.. Dragon still can be regal (have you SEEN the capes Lance and Clair wear and the outfit Iris has?!) Did you seriously make Cinderace *another* Fire/Fighting?! Lol actually.. sure.. why not.. it at least had been a few gens (tbh that is why people were annoyed.. it was 3 gens in a row)

[@volcanbolt12]

I literally talked about your two last points in my own comment 😂

[@OKreations]

This is great I appreciate the feedback! Love both pos and neg, it helps me out to get an understanding of how I can structure videos better. Appreciate it!

[@doozsromhacks]

10000000000000% i hate when people use levelups/learnsets to argue against a type change like it just makes no sense whatsoever GF in general fucking sucks at making them fit or good anyways

[@volcanbolt12]

@@doozsromhacks I mean, people ALSO use this tactic in favor of a type change as well. I'm not saying this, ALONE, should be enough; however, in some cases, the doubt can feel validated when paired with other elements

[@_WiZ420]

Meganium is one of the few Pokemon that I feel is so capable of a few types that it doesn’t adopt them. It has Psychic properties with its natural tendency to learn both Reflects, Fairy and Dragon qualities in action or design, and it also has the most potential to be Grass Normal. The biggest L to this Pokemon is that it is a Grass type, in all honesty.

[@caminopreacher5958]

I did this in my WaterBlue2 and Silver Rival hacks.

[@VegeTaleNO1]

I totally agree with water steel blastoise but some debate on the fact that venusaur wouldn't have a stab supereffective option against it.

[@whaggs_]

I would do the Galarian guys differently. First off, Inteleon’s typing you gave it and reasoning is exactly the same as what I was thinking, Water/Ghost fits very well. Cinderace, I’d make it Fire/Electric. The yellow accents on it. And while it only gets one electric type move, Electro Ball, I think that move alone makes it worth it. It kicks up the rock and it could either be Pyro or Electricity charging it. Give it some extra electric stab in Thunderpunch and Wild Charge and it’s solid. Rillaboom would be Grass/Rock. I’d like to think the wood drum he beats on is petrified wood, making it too hard to break when the brute beats on it. And Grass/Rock is also just a really solid typing.

[@phoenixblade8315]

Fairy fits better in meganium

[@informativerishi2300]

I think serperior with poison type which looks so good for that serpent

[@JCThe14th]

There is one major problem, you’re messing with the rock-paper-scissors aspect of starters. All of a sudden, Venusaur can’t hit Blastoise with STAB super effective moves, same with Typhlosion not being able to hit Meganium. That’s basically the whole point but the rest are pretty well thought out

[@ToasterCorgiGaming]

Forgot to mention a some Pokemon got type adjustments in Gen 6 when Fairy was added as well as with Steel. Not OK with Rock added to Samurott, even if it gives a better matchup for Emboar. And it REALLY doesn't matter what 2nd type you give Meganium since it'll be worth more than what little love Nintendo/Game Freak have given it. (Though I would've given it the Fairy Type.)

[@OKreations]

What about rock on samurott do you not agree with?

[@ToasterCorgiGaming]

@@OKreations 4x weakness to Grass primarily, same issue I had with Hisuian Growlithe/Arcanine being Fire/Rock, they practically made it weaker by increasing it's Water and Ground Weakness to both 4X Super Effective. But that's just my thoughts.

[@superflameking03]

As fitting as a Water/Ghost type would be with the Grass/Normal and Fire/Fighting typings you gave as well, there’s nothing really about Inteleon’s design that implies ghost or death or anything of the sort unlike literally every other ghost type. The only thing is it turning invisible but that isn’t inherently a Ghost type trait (just look at Kecleon). I argue Dark works better, although that makes Rillaboom being a Normal type look a bit weirder without the whole Normal/Fighting/Ghost thing going, so idk

[@OKreations]

Yeah this makes sense! Appreciate the feedback!

[@2quikforya]

inteleon looks psychic to me, also because of it being a sniper

[@ChunteringBackwardsForwards]

Meganium- grass/ fairy, because of its attractive nature and Sweet Scent attractions. Typhlosion- fire/dark because of its ravenous nature and badgers are known to be sinister. Feraligatr-water/fighting because crocodiles fight for survival and resilience over the centuries. Septile- stays Grass/ dragon. Samurott- water/steel because armor and katanas are made of steel.