Overanalyzing EVERY Other Plant [PART 13] - PvZ2 Chinese Version

[@jankotopekmaniiil7918]

Crazy Dave summoning cthulhu from the void using some anenome was not what i expected to see today.

[@oceanstudio31]

I mean, he is called CRAZY Dave for a reason.

[@amberblank]

why is this so funny?

[@rahulh16]

that's why his name is crazy dave duh

[@FluffinWasntHere]

All this to defeat some random zombies

[@Staggefly]

@@FluffinWasntHereIt’s worth it ig

[@its_xen0nn]

"Not sure why you'd want to move every zombie down" The formidable jalapeno pepper:

[@MalayMsmGamer]

Use hurriikale then squash

[@caoinhnamkhanh2795]

​@@MalayMsmGamerits a different playstyle with a different plant so i dont think that one is straight up better

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

​@caoinhnamkhanh2795 it is straight up better as there's nothing that's immune to the squish And also it looks really nice

[@torchthe62nd63]

1: Cover the Zombies in oil 2: Wait for it to rain 3: Zombies are flung into the stratosphere

[@flagzombie]

Exactly.

[@Warriorstamps]

Lawn saved I guess!

[@Kyle_Reese]

good thing Olive Pit exists!

[@MaxricoQuen]

lemon

[@Mechacoolrobot]

oilseed + acid lemon is so op plz talkcap nerf 😭

[@Artricia_]

Crazy dave casually invoking the power of the abyss was not in my PvZC bingo sheet but i'll take it

[@Just_a_guy909]

Crazy Dave's feats are insane

[@pranksterespurr5544]

Ctchullu, a Super Saiyan subway surfers, and a plant that oils up zombies. This is peak

[@larrymantic2635]

Abyss Anemone in a nutshell: Horse? Sure. Little zombie in a dragon suit? Hell no!

[@Chib9]

The imp dragons are in cahoots with Cthulhu

[@aidanhammans9337]

So that’s why they’re fireproof

[@larrymantic2635]

I wonder if the Walrus is in cahoots too (or if Devil’s Claw only has that issue)

[@samlyTylerMin]

They have so many zombies in different shapes that they must stop and start classifying them

[@FluffinWasntHere]

"i am soo hungry that i could eat a horse"

[@Awe-Tistic]

I love how each episode takes a long time to come out so we get extremely excited for each one

[@EhtesamUddinPrince]

Scarcity principle

[@Raphael._Souza111]

Vdd

[@lucazanellaterradeoliveira7582]

true

[@seriousnorbo3838]

Abyss Anemone: *"Man, i'm so hungry I could eat a horse!"* 1:55

[@alexkyrychenko4575]

And a human sized creature

[@TheMistermastermario]

they could go on a dinner date with Snap Pea

[@olg6491]

Magic 🧙

[@chypethechilean]

I hope the local farm won't miss those horses... ​@@TheMistermastermario

[@sleepy6510]

cant believe Cthulhu is canon to pvz2c lore with the Cthulhu monks

[@woomyiism]

I cannot believe we got to both worship Cthulhu and oil up the zombies in this one

[@chypethechilean]

Two of the most fun activities in one game, let's goooo

[@VortexBroAnG]

Something I really like about PVZ2C is that collecting costumes actually HAS a purpose (giving buffs to plants) instead of just being a decoration

[@MrDanIsReal]

0:12 THE SKELETON APPEARS

[@Calk-go3em]

Nah m8 THE ABYSS ANEMONE APPEARS

[@ballsinspector42069]

💀

[@TeleportedGuy]

IS THAT AN ITEM ASYLUM REFERENCE IN MY PVZ??????

[@johnkosiov9715]

WE DOOMED

[@lance499]

@@TeleportedGuy "THE SKELETON APPEARS" is a meme that does not originate from IA, but it does appear there as a boss. The music used with the meme comes from Kirby Mass Attack, when you get ambushed by the Skull Gang.

[@StarfruitGamer123]

Both the abyss plants are singlehandedly more unique than the past 5 years of updates to the international PvZ2

[@Fortnitegoat1505]

Abysmal devil claw does not even sound close to a plant

[@The_Collector2]

Sounds like smth from a horror game

[@teteu3925]

Sounds like it came from Persona or some other game like that

[@Shartmaster32]

That sounds like a plant It's a bit extreme but it isn't too far from something like a snapdragon

[@camwoodstock]

I said, YOU GOT ANY ABYSSAL DEVIL CLAWS?! He said, Wait a minute. I'll go check.

[@noobie1301]

Are we talking about the tentacle one or the mosquito one?

[@Solariscatto]

I might have an idea of why the dazey chain bug happens In pvz2i, if your projectile pierces, and is not based on one of the projectiles that can inherenyly pierce, it will do its damage every single frame Since dazey chains cloud was never meant to deal damage, it makes sense that they wouldn't set it up to not deal damage every frame

[@catking4031]

main question is why it deals damage,in code this cloud have zero damage, and plant do not add, but instead multiply damage

[@alexstewart9592]

​@@catking4031 The Dazey Chain also has a damaging projectile, and that one is considered its primary attack, not the clouds. Presumaby, the cloud is getting its damage from the bonus for the main attack getting added to the clouds as well. As for how that happened when other plants with multiple attacks work fine, I wouldn't be surprised if the cause is the Dazey Chain's cloud having null damage instead of 0 damage - both of those are legal values for a number and both would cause the attack to deal no damage, but an unexpected null value can cause issues.

[@NexoNexus]

Are you from pvz2 rfl server?

[@Solariscatto]

@@NexoNexus yeah

[@infinite10archy]

we're so back EDIT: Geez, Hoya Heart is absolutely insane. Makes me wonder who's more broken, him or Chinese Aloe?

[@UlyssesK402]

I'm sure most close-range attackers would love that thing. Somehow, AltverZ Peanut comes to mind. Imagine a shotgun being boosted by Hoya Heart! (I don't think we'll ever see that, but I can dream)

[@neuralstrings8015]

A thing about the eye of the abyss is that is actually deals percent based damage + flat damage dependent on the level of the eye. Gargs are immune to the percentage part, only being affected by the flat damage, which is why it's generally ineffective against gargs.

[@catalyst9955]

You know, I’m just realizing this now, but pvz2c seems to have the opposite problem from international, the plants are well animated but their concepts are unusually buggy and not always well thought out.

[@trananbinhjerry6438]

Not really that well animated, but definitely better colored and designed. The animations is not as crisp as the old plants but still eye catching, unlike the mess that is sea floral

[@shadowstrider7224]

a lot of the newer international plants are much less well animated, thats for sure

[@KraylebStudios]

And even then their mechanics are still there and functional

[@samlyTylerMin]

​​@@trananbinhjerry6438 Ignoring the fact that the newer plants were designed by different artist, at least they have consistent abilities , I hate the pattern that have some Chinese plants like "Plant do 'A' thing(Usually the main gimmick), at level 2 and level 3 the plant do 'B' thing and less 'A' thing and the level 5 the plant do 'C' thing and less 'B' thing" the plant end ignoring the main gimmick that was designed

[@belowaverage50]

Great video!! Always a delight seeing a new video from you!

[@flagzombie]

Thank you!

[@ma.emmebuenafe6513]

8:42 judging by the bio, i have a feeling that this plant is the reason why jack in a box zombie went insane

[@funguy3259]

I do wish that the Oilseed-pult always threw oil but also would rely less on other fire plants, cause it's generally a pretty interesting concept

[@anglecringe6917]

I think it should've just only do the oil too but also have the oil slow down the zombies

[@CrypticWorms]

@@anglecringe6917sooooo……. Sapfling power creep?

[@anglecringe6917]

@CrypticWorms lowkey yes, the modern pvz2 chinese plants are super op anyways

[@pedromartins6810]

Pvz is such an inclusive franchise. There only meant to be plants, but they got fungi, they also have protist and now we even have animals, how nice.

[@justapotato7366]

Bubble coral is something I didn't expect to see

[@rainbowmothraleo]

We've already had anemones for the long time in PvZ: Journey to the West

[@BearyQueNub]

Cattail crying in the corner

[@pedromartins6810]

@BearyQueNub cattail is a reed, a type of plant.

[@BearyQueNub]

@@pedromartins6810 Sorry, thought you were talking about Abyss Devil's claw or Abyss Anemone lmao

[@endskyII]

of all of the ways pvz2 has induced power creep i did not expect “uses the power of the abyss to summon an elder god” to be one of them. this means that lovecraftian elder gods exist in pvz lore but only in the Chinese version. incredible

[@ReadilyAvailibleChomper]

It makes perfect sense that Mino cant block the oil. The liquid goes through the paper hat, but falls off the umbrella. Weirdly logical for Talkweb.

[@citrusthepenguin]

Gotta love Hoya Heart, a plant that effectively gives it's teammates super steroids while having lore that's just "He simps for Sunflower Singer."

[@Lissy_YT481]

Who doesn't?

[@everlastingdragon4520]

I love how Abyss Devil's Claw has a default facial expression that is just pure "Please don't tell me what you did last night. I do NOT want to know." even though it's implied to serve the Outer Gods.

[@TheRedGeneral_8065]

So we got an abyssal version of Snap Pea with cultist type shtuff A mandrake thing that does parkour instead of killing things by screaming, WHAT IS THAT MOSQUITO-PRODUCING MONSTER, Funny party fella, And an angry oil fire. I love PvZ2’s China version!

[@K.J73]

Oilseed-pult: Interesting plant with an amazing mechanic. PvZ2C dev: Wait, we don't do that here. *Erase the fun mechanic at level 5*

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

Look how they massacred my boy

[@1yakup159]

No way they added a plant that oils zombies up, we are so back

[@Mrmasterranter]

Finally, some damm good yt content. I swear these pvz China plants are so cool

[@bigpoggers6507]

We got Super Saiyan and literal demons in PVZ 😭

[@Cyrogeno]

27:38 The fact is that Hoya Heart not only add percentage damage increase to a plant’s attacks, it also add fixed damage, one pea or two all the time, while Dazey Chain’s clouds does zero damage, every frame, to apply the stun effect; therefore, each frame now has actual damage when boosted and stacks up quickly as it pass through zombies.

[@veryoriginalname2515]

That makes much more sense as the math wasnt mathing before

[@Goomorrah]

2:16 Don't blame em, they're just a picky eater

[@sharktheguy3265]

WE'RE BACK ONCE AGAIN Personal favorites this time around were Abyss Anemone (mainly its design, it's so freaky in a good way) and Oilseed-pult for looking really fun to mess around with

[@BuffSmasher]

oiling up the zombies is such a W

[@buffete3753]

I was starving for a new video , thanks a lot flag ! Happy new year btw flag ^^

[@SilverFoxeGames]

Parkour mandrake seeing flying zombies: “Why tf are they not using their legs? Disgusting”

[@linguine4500]

Say what you want about pvz2c, but you gotta admit: Some of these plants have incredible concepts. I just wish this game had the level of refining and animation to actually back them up.

[@TheNulledOne]

Honestly the best series to this day. I enjoy watching these vids as new stuff comes out. The text helps out a ton. Not one video I haven't seen unenjoyable. Keep it up. Your videos are fun to watch.

[@teinteressa4486]

Nice to know that a Cthulhu cult is canon in the pvz universe and that you can turn zombies into disciples... You know, the normal stuff ☺️

[@MaxricoQuen]

23:27 "BFDI Challenge" ahh music.

[@CoolpeaOfficial]

lmao that's what i am thinking exactly

[@AWYIKHONGMoe-go3el]

Yeah,I was shocked when I realised it

[@EthanTheGamer77]

0:11 the zombie appears

[@HansVinlin]

gothamchess ass comment

[@Kaneyane_West]

"which looks and acts like a sort of mosquito" 15:12 Imp self detonating to the thought of it

[@thelunar2712]

I LOVE Hoya Heart. It’s design in particular, it’s so fun and memorable! It feels like the kind of plant that would be game defining, like how Bonk Choy became an iconic normal plant after PvZ2. I also love their ability, it’s REALLY strong but in a more creative way that’s very thematically fitting for its concept. Absolutely devastated this gem of a plant doesn’t exist in the international version…even if they removed the encore ability, I would totally use it just for how fun and creative it is.

[@PLMMJ]

I feel like he needs a nerf, especially level 3+, but yeah.

[@sunnyd6519]

**Oil**seed-pult level 5: Removed oil this is even more baffling when you remember that his costume also converts the oil into fireballs. So you can just, completely remove oil from his kit. Seriously, what the heck…?

[@naplockblubba5369]

The upgraded mosquitoes being called "Evolved Disciples" has... Some interesting implications

[@simpingshrimp4791]

which are?

[@naplockblubba5369]

@@simpingshrimp4791 The zombies turn into those

[@Lissy_YT481]

​@@naplockblubba5369so...?

[@IsaacGilgenbach]

I love love LOVE these kinda videos about the Chinese version and I wish there was more since I've already kind of watched all of them multiple times lol-

[@gnusnotutopia]

oilseed pult looks really cool but it is sad that it loses its gimmick i wish they entirely nixed it throwing fireballs itself to make it a hard support have it give the fire vulnerability as its main Levelling Benefit (either increasing in proc chance or strength with level) for level 5 they could do something silly like make the ignite effect permanent

[@Puff-Shroom]

Oilseed-pult looks like the plant that will make Snapdragon even more broken than he already is(Or Primal Pea,making him better than Monkey Fruit?)

[@MsPrickles]

PvZ2C seems to have lots of oversights and also lots of small details with plant and zombie interactions at the same time

[@mistr_dk_]

Yoooo Kevin Macleod at 23:29, thank you so much flag

[@THEGurtiest]

A plant that actually makes the zombies oil up, we learn something new everyday

[@Ponera-Sama]

13:15 Super Saiyan mandrake

[@yesssint7243]

“Not sure why you would want to move every zombie down” probably because the plantfood is a lane wipe

[@PaxGladeus]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT NEW OVER ANALYZING VIDEO

[@flagzombie]

Indeed!

[@RafioElfGaming]

Abyss plants have a such unique gimmick. I also want to add their lore and it's really fit to the time twister world. So, in time twister, shadow pants & abyss plants are live in harmony. Until one day, Zomboss' messing them timeline, the time twister is become very unstable that make abyss plants become insane and many shadow plants are fleeing from time twister that give the reason why they came in Modern Day. And for time twister as final world, players will get many abyss plants and rest of the shadow plants that still live in Time Twister as obtained adventure plants.

[@Circle2947]

Honestly, all of these plants are miles better than the slop we've been receiving in the international version.

[@Atleasthreecharacters]

When flag zombie starts overanalyzing plants I don't even know about i know that i need to check back on the wiki so the hyperfixation can come out of the corner so i can have 5 at once instead of just 4

[@nacl4988]

Abyss Anemone is a fantastic design. I just like both of the Abyss plants really.

[@freakshoworange]

27:47 my guess as to why this happens is probably because Hoya Heart effects the damage of all of a plant’s attacks, therefore it would in theory be able to make the cloud do damage (if its not strictly a basic multiplier because i think if its 150% it’d be what 1.5 damage?) so the cloud might just have a very high tick rate. Since the cloud is effecting zombies so quickly (making sure it stuns every zombie it comes across, the damage ALSO ticks just as frequently, thus making it do in theory 1.5 damage times however many frames it would hit/stun the zombie during its movement. Just speculating tho since I dont know how all the calculations are run.

[@Uuduk564]

2:26 maybe the Abyss has fire underneath

[@王敏行-n1n]

It's funny how some of us the Chinese players would talk about the Abyss Anemine looking alike to one of the Sea born from Arknights on 哔哩哔哩

[@Xedlord]

Abyss Devil's Claw is so cute though

[@MAJJASTAK]

No way with that first music, i JUST finished watching a WR run of Kirby Mass Attack 100%

[@Lebattlecatsenjoyer]

i have been waiting for only what I can describe as eons of an eternal devoid of any feeling.

[@misterwhalethewhale]

The devs of this version are really just releasing plants without any interactions in mind, literally not a single interaction in this game feels coded

[@xpload]

1:59 Don't think I didn't see that meme, Flag 🐴

[@solarknight3942]

Having a plant that guarantees moving every zombie specifically to one lane would make Jalapeño finally have purpose, other than making up for weaknesses in multi-lane plants. I’m talking Three-Peater and Bowling Bulb who specifically do less damage to zombies on the top and bottom most lanes.

[@HackerSero]

Bro I really apreciate the work you put into these videos must take days or even weeks of research

[@justapotato7366]

I remember when abyss anemone get introduced for the first time somehow he manage to be my favorite plant in the entire series and i wasn't even play the Chinese virgin at the time

[@makcold]

8:18 Buckethead loses his arm before the bucket??

[@wishfulbutton6676]

Love this series, as always! I can't wait to see if Toadstool is in this version!

[@ClassicTnJ]

Finally overanalyzing plants video and there still a lot coming but you can take rest as you want any you want

[@Wailerman]

Phantom Mandrake, you say? PERSONA!!

[@viniciuslovegood1794]

Your videos are so well made, keep up please 🙏 Also, I'd love to see Hoya Heart and (preferably level 3) Oilseed-pult in future event PvZ2C videos because those are so interesting fr

[@EpikZen]

THE VID WEVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!

[@KraylebStudios]

I really love the idea of the Abyssal plants. Id love to see them make a return because the idea of cthulhu themed plants is so cool! Also interesting that the Chinese version refers to Abyssal Anemone as They/them

[@jonnevitu4979]

maybe that interaction with dazey chain is cuz the clouds deal dmg every X amount of time when in contact with zombies so the dmg boost applies a lot, see how much they "blink" to show how fast they are getting hit?

[@ikerodriguez5618]

I can't wait to see if Reflourished uses the Cthulhu zombies or abyss mechanic! I think they could make something really special with these

[@silverkuro7190]

its getting better and more peak every time this series pops out a new episode

[@Qwertymomoo]

It’s likely that Daisy Chain is getting a buff to its damage from Hoya Heart that is then given to any ability used by the plant, thus it gains the +1.5x damage on every tick of the cloud.

[@Jia-f5u]

27:47 the smoke deals damage according to frame rate, but its damage is 0. Hoya heart can increase its damage by plusing a fixed number on 0. For example, its damage buffed by a level 1 Hoya heart is 0*20%+30=30 per frame Apologize for my poor English 🥺

[@dhakman8765]

Ah yes “abysmal devil claw” my favorite PVZ plant

[@Tephegora]

2:15 Maybe it skipped the dodo because they were said to taste horrible back in the day, guess size doesn’t matter when the flavor’s that bad

[@simpingshrimp4791]

You're telling me that a Lovecraftian Deity would care enough about taste to reject Big Bird?

[@Tephegora]

@simpingshrimp4791 Even eldritch gods have standards

[@maglev0789]

We're getting close to the super crazy recent designs like the firework nunchuck flower and Lunisolar Honeysuckle

[@lamenwatch1877]

14:05 Spam Mandrakes in lanes 1-4 and handle lane 5 with stallers and Jalapeños/Ghost Peppers. Similar to a Garlic + Sweet Potato combo, but in lane 5 instead of lane 3. Edit: It also likely works on more zombies and puts the plants responsible for diversion in less danger.

[@CubeCatSittingOnWater]

My favorite youtuber of my favorite video game franchise releasing a video on my birthday? No way!

[@flagzombie]

Happy birthday!

[@blueberrymk.1091]

Love the Anemone. Wouldn't mind it be ported out to international. Hoya Heart is some flavor of Oshi No Ko no doubt.

[@victinistar8968]

Ten seconds in and already I like the video thanks to Mass Attack music. And my favorite from Mass Attack too. And the best part is, it's for such a cool plant! Abyss Anemone, a combo of Chompea(forgot the name) and Laser Bean PF. Edit: I now join the group of commenting before finishing the video as Abyss Anemone is compared to SNAP PEA, not Chompea.

[@happygav123]

Oh cool, the depths of hell are starting to appear on the lawn.

[@marcossandrosilva6979]

36:48 the WHAT SEED?!

[@simondavidras4738]

Rapeseed.

[@NoUserU]

Literally what I said word for word lmfao.

[@Birb_nerd]

Diddy plant

[@simpingshrimp4791]

​@@Birb_nerd It even has oil lol 😂

[@Rambo2132-u7y]

Yessir Overanalyzing vid lesgooo!!!! ❤❤❤

[@otherguy6865]

I love this series, it’s the only thing to distracts me from the professor's lesson

[@ArtyomThe3rd]

30:32 i like that you added oil ocean zone theme, because oil plant is being told

[@SuwandyOnggo]

For Abyss Anemone, I'll want to do a little bit of balancing. For example, instead of shooting a laser after digesting zombies, it'll use its eye to convert the zombie or imp at the forefront into a Cthulu monk before digesting other zombies. Other zombies that couldn't be converted will get stunned instead.

[@kyleawsum7]

seeing 75 cost and fast recharge on hoya almost made me do a double take, holy shit

[@thediabolicalraisin8953]

9:32 bro thinks he's the Blue Blur

[@quijassajiuq900]

I’m genuinely surprised that Oilseed-pult is blocked by Parasol zombie. That never happens in this version of the game.

[@oceanstudio31]

Man, the new years update is about to go insane!

[@nurfaradilla9495]

What if pvz2 chinese version have their power mints family?

[@Mike77-z7q]

Imp dragon: Yo Cthulhu! Sup? I'm a huge fan of your works, can I have your permission not to be a sacrifice to you? Cthulhu: Sure bro