Flaming River Fiasco

Today we throw out the Flaming River Rack and Pinion with its massive Bumpsteer issues and install a Borgeson Power Steering box !!
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[@peterkovacs8654]

Stock has more engineering behind it than most people realize. I don’t understand the need for wholesale changes. But I’m funny that way.

[@carmudgeon7478]

I'm constantly amazed that someone with a few thousand dollars thinks they can improve on a design the manufacturer spent a billion dollars designing.

[@romannumeral5547]

Flaming river should be ashamed of themselves but whoever installed it shouldn't be anywhere near a car. What you pointed out should have been obvious when it was being installed and when it was driven it should have been even more obvious that there was a problem. Giving that car back to the owner in that condition is outright negligence. It could have wound up killing someone.

[@Anthony-qj7qe]

Good on you Kiwi, getting her to change back to the stock setup, no more binding and it will be a lot safer. 👍 When you think about it, it was Kinda scary, that she was driving it like that.

[@mikeabney1214]

Whoever installed that like this needs to have his tools taken away. Anyone who lets a vehicle leave their shop as unsafe as this one was needs to be sued out of business.

[@61rampy65]

I just bought a 65 Corvair with a Flaming River steering box in it. The box is a so-called bolt in replacement for the stock box. The car had a full 1/2 turn of the steering wheel slop in the box. I took it apart, and couldn't really see any reason for the slop. I adjusted it, but it still has more play in it than the old, zillion mile GM box I replaced it with. Several people with the same box in their Corvairs had a similar problem. Not sure I would trust Flaming River with ANY steering component now!

[@sacooper802]

take flaming river name off this video title please, its not even a flaming river product. plus the tie rod end has a taper in it that can only mount up from the bottom, how they managed to mount it from the top is just a big error. I own a flaming river rack n pinion and it works well in my 1965 mustang, I added electric power assist to it as well, yes it does have a little bit of bump steer issue but Im fixing that with a bump steer kit. you want to angle the outer tie rods ends about the same angle as lower control arm angle.

[@jeffhutchins7048]

Really SUCKS when you buy "reputable" parts and they are crap!

[@UcantBeSerious03]

Is this what they mean when they say welcome to the world of hotrodding with aftermarket parts.

[@user-bc9sz1dj1g]

Btw, yes, i agree, Flaming river DOES make some good stuff we've used, w/o any issue......BIG BALL dropped here.....yep.....i KNOW u'll get it strait (no pun intended) haha, but hope customer understands what u have to do, as dudes with welders and hand tools, gotta hold of it, WITH a poor Flaming River pkg!!!....ok i gotta shut up.....u get what i mean.....

[@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525]

OF COURSE KIWI WOULD SCARE HIS CUSTOMERS IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION😅! 🤣🤣 I think you explain this great! And you did the right thing. 👍

[@alrui]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people leave the flywheel covers off!

[@fishgeralding9224]

Wow, with that geometry it had to of steered like a shopping 🛒!

[@strangecustoms8486]

Brought an xm ute years ago DU997 nice bright orange show ute 289 5 speed supra but had serious bump steer due to using xb falcon stub axles for the disc brakes they pushed the top and bottom ball joints too far apart replaced with original stubs and machined adapter to use xb rotors and used hz holden brake calipers because the were just two bolts straight through to mount on the backing plate bolted to the original 4 holes the original drum brake backing plate bolted to. Then had to do a recert. Which was the hardest and most expensive part of the fix lol typical kiwi we say it how it is no sugar coating. 😁🇬🇸👍

[@jackpalczynski7884]

Holy Cow! I have never seen that amount of bump steer. I built a Shelby Cobra kit car years ago and dove in head first into suspension geometry including bump steer. Now, it's not difficult to look at a system and see what can be done to correct it. I mean simple things like rack movement or re-positioning tie rod end connections. But this Mustang! Holy Cow! (again). You're right to go back to the original system. I know that the flaming river rack could be made to work but it would include radical suspension changes and lots of relocation. Likely moving the tie rods to in front of the axle. A rocket science project for sure.

[@captaintoyota3171]

Man that bump steer is gona get someone seriously hurt

[@gcaprice406]

Great and simple explanation of bumpsteer. I really learned a lot, thank you Kiwi!!!!

[@Pico-hq7ws]

Nicely clear for non engineers Kiwi, good to hear a call out to a brand to "😊straighten out"

[@kirstenspencer3630]

I have used many flaming river steering boxes. The tugs at a major airport used solid non-pnumatic front tires. Very unforgiving and blew out the castings on the OEM steering boxes. We would order a pallet of fr steering boxes at a time. They worked FINE and were a fair quality part. As I was the mechanic changing the broken boxes I had no issues after several dozen boxes. Many things can affect bump steer, shortened steering arms, bent steering arm, raised or lowered steering box position due to frame repair ( accident) or a combination of all parts ( tollerance stack up ).

[@butcher390]

Jesus Chrysler !!