Flamma FS21-Looper and Drum. Inexpensive Looper with Control Pedal input.

[@weps2097]

Solid explanation. I was on the fence about this looper but you've answered my concerns...I'm getting it.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Sweet! Glad I could help, have fun with it!

[@adilO.o]

This video sold me the pedal !!! Can't wait to receive it. PS: I lost myself many times during the video watching in the background Sub Zero, Raiden, Liu Kang etc. yep my childhood

[@DoubleDguitar]

That is awesome! About the pedal and the games, of course! I love the retro games, they are my childhood and just as fun as sitting and getting lost in music and guitar. Well....almost. Enjoy the pedal!

[@motorrebell]

Thnx ! Very helpful explanation of this awesome Loop pedal . Seems its identical with the Donner Circle looper & YUER XS-04 Looper & Drum pedal, wich all have identical layout & circuitry ( but only different in design ) too !

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks for watching! I am glad you got some info from the video 🤘🏻

[@faxisthefox]

I see so the buttons serve the same functions as the turning the knobs for each side which gives you total control with your foot without bending down all the time - good stuff

[@DoubleDguitar]

Yeah, it definitely makes some things easier. Thanks for checking it out.

[@gillespage]

Hello, does the pedal control the level, volume, fade out time and BPM too (instead of the TAP) ?

[@holtrain81]

Great info, thanks for digging in because the instructions left alot to be desired!

[@DoubleDguitar]

I am glad I could help, and yeah I agree. I figured some people may make the decision to buy this based on some of the external options. I still use this a ton. Thanks for checking out the vid🤘🏻

[@mykhedelic6471]

Excellent, I was wondering if I could redo the last overdub and you have answered that, much thanks.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Awesome! Glad I could help. 🤘🏻

[@nazmoking3171]

The Flamma is the same electronics as the Donner Circle Looper. However I like the controls on the Donner slightly better. At the moment, both are the same price.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Ahh! I like putting the connection together for which of these brands are basically rehoused and reworked. I have been trying to decide what Donner item I want to check out. You may be helping me along in that decision. Thanks man!

[@blueeyedsoulman]

So the drum sounds are the same?

[@nazmoking3171]

@@blueeyedsoulman From what I have seen on videos, they appear to house the exact same features.

[@bikersoncall]

This is a great comment Nazmo, then this would mean the circle also has usb to my laptop, which is what I need, I'm not finding any good tututorials on how to actually use the flamma, but the flamma does look better lol. I may go with the flamma since it is the only one with a good basic tutorial. The boss 500 and 600 are SO WAY over the top complex and tedious or I would be getting one of them.

[@marclesil]

Nice video! I've just got my FS21 and this video helped me a lot. I'm new in the loop and drum pedal stuff. Where /How can I get decent quality drum backing tracks to import into the pedal? The ones that came in the pedal don't fully meet my needs.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks man! I am glad I could help out. I am not sure about quality, drum only tracks. I hear you about the ones provided. Good, but basic. If you find some that work and are good, I would love to know.

[@mikestroud9969]

Good detailed review as always buddy 😎👍💯🎸🎸 i have a Nuxmg30 that keeps me busy. Im considering this one though in the near future or a Boss me90 👍💯

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks man! This is a fun little looper, and the Me90 looks really cool. Lots of options!

[@RonaldvanHoveUITH]

Nice to see your explanation of what you can do with ext ctrl. I tried going to the next memory while playing the previous one. It immediately starts playing the next memory. Is there a setting that sets it to play right after the previous one has finished its phrase?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Glad you found the video. I haven’t found a way to have that happen automatically. It does wait until the drum pattern (1 bar of it at least) completes the cycle. So that helps the timing some. But nothing like the boss pedals and their auto swap.

[@ITigerbaum]

Thanks! I have one on the way. Drums really help me create riffs.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Glad it helped! I totally agree, having rhythms can help a ton. All my best!🤘🏻

[@adolloyd]

Just discovered you half an hour ago. Love the way you explained the tutorial plus you're so calm and laid back ... makes things so much easier to digest & absorb. Thanks man ☆ .... gotta ask one question though ... I know the guts of the Flamma & the Donner are pretty identical, if not exactly the same but, without being biased, which would you say is better (sorry... don't even know if you've tried the Donner yet 🤔) Liked, Subscribed & Commented ... it's just that it's gonna be my 1st Looper (plus the drum machine is great for practice, fun & entertainment. Jus' wanna get it right 1st time y'know? Thanks bro - 🙏 - Saint & a Saviour to us outsiders ... appreciate it 😎👍

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey man, thanks a ton for all this! I really appreciate the kind words and I hope you get some good info from my vids. That is my main goal. I haven’t tried the Donner….yet. I really want to and have heard that the main difference is going to be that the drum loops are different. It otherwise seems to have all the same options, even same number of loop save slots. I do have to say, I like the look of the Flamma a little more than all that art on the Donner. That is really about it. It seems a little distracting to me, I just want to see the words lol. All my best and thanks again!

[@adolloyd]

@@DoubleDguitar - Thanks so much for getting back to me on this, really appreciate you taking the time to look at my message and reply to it ... you're a gentleman. Yeah ... that's kinda what was putting me off too believe it or not ... the arty stuff on the Donner looks a little, almost childlike, y'know? But saying that, I saw this one first & it impressed the shit outta me but the Flamma looks like a professional looper. Thing is, the Donner is £92.99 plus I get 10% off my first order directly from them but the cheapest Flamma I can find is £107.99 up to £157.99 ... I'm thinking I'm answering my own question here 🤔... I'm probably gonna have a punt at the Donner but I sure thank you for all of your help in showing us what the much better looking Flamma can do. I'm no professional, believe it or not, I'm a drummer at heart but picked up the Bass (obvious rhythm section) and then started with a bit of keyboard and guitar ... us writing/singing songs and messing around on an old Yamaha MT1X Portastudio for production ... it's all for fun, no paid work etc, thanks once again DD - you're one cool dude. ✌😎👍

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@adolloyd thanks for all the super kind words, bro. I really appreciate it and know the feeling of looking for some answers for things like this. Totally know it. I think they are close enough that you will be good with the Donner. I almost grabbed it, just for this reason alone. To compare and see. But have yet to do so. Can you let me know what you think? I have a feeling it will be good, I would like a little more level control from the Flamma. Maybe the Donner has more than 5 clicks of level? That would be my first check, if I had it. Especially for the drum levels. Have fun and enjoy, that is cool you are moving beyond your core instrument. The loop world makes it a little easier to explore. All my best, my dude!🤘🏻

[@aeysquirrel9536]

Thank you so much I have been looking for more actual info on this pedal hope it's good on bass will find out soon

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks for checking it out, and yeah it is tough to get some real answers sometimes. I hope you enjoy it, I bet it will sound great. The audio quality is really good on the unit, as a whole.

[@charliecap6909]

@@DoubleDguitar LIKE YOU SAID FOR THE MONEY YES ITS GOOD //

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@charliecap6909 poor drummers. 😁😉🤘🏻

[@thomasVA9707]

Thanks for the lesson man 😎😎😎

[@DoubleDguitar]

Yeah man, hope it helped 🤘🏻

[@skaltube]

Thanks for this very helpful video ; I have a question, though, using the external control : can you go from one recorded loop on a memory slot to the next while playing, and how does it react (does it stay in sync) ? What I have in mind is : if you have a long song (over 4 minutes) with different sections (like verse, chorus and break), could you record, say, the first half of the song and the 2nd part on the next memory, to then play them one after the other, switching from the 1st one to the 2nd part with the ext ctrl (and would it keep in sync) ? Sorry for the long msg & thank you for any help

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey man, glad you found the video. I hope my answer helps. You can do this, but you have to plan ahead. Advancing to a loop patch with nothing recorded will stop the player. However, you could record a blank loop or set up a set of patterns across the loop numbers you want to use. Then when you go to the next section of the song, it will keep playing. When the looper sees there is something on the track you advance to, it will play and stay synced. If it is a blank, empty loop, it stops. So you should be able to do what you are talking about, but with some prep work.

[@skaltube]

@Double D guitar Thank you so much for your quick and detailed answer 😊 You've been very helpful, and I've found the way you explain things very clear and easy to follow. Thanks again, keep on rockin' !

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@skaltube hey man, huge thanks back to you. I appreciate it and glad I could help! 🤘🏻

[@Alfredo78666]

Nice video, that volume option, it's the volume of the track/dub monitor, or it's the dub in the mix? I've always wanted a looper that allows you to add different guitar tracks with different volumes, like studio stuff.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey buddy, thanks about the video! The loop side volume knob controls the mix output of the recorded loop. It also has the level of the drums on the right side. I use a booster after gain to get up to certain volumes and turn it off for the lower volume stuff in the loop. It helps a lot when making layers.

[@oicsaywhat]

Great video really enjoyed your insight

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thank you! It’s a cool looper, I am glad you dug the video. 🤘🏻

[@robertobryant7778]

Any suggestions on a cheap foot switch? Your link doesn't work. I’m a noob but I have this looper and love it just to play scales over chords and drums. I wish I had a a way to get a bass line in but for the price it is awesome.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Aw, bummer about the link. Any Boss style, momentary will work great. A quick run through eBay should show some around the 20-25 price.

[@rodriguezmb7]

Hi! Could I be able to loop guitar and a mic at the same time? Because it has two inputs... I recently got it and I still don't know how to use it lol, thanks!

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@rodriguezmb7 hey man, yeah you should be able to! I would use a little mixer to send the mic and guitar into the unit, but anything goes when it comes to looping!

[@lucianopico6318]

Hi, the external pedal link doesn't work, could you tell me a compatible brand? Hotone Ampero Switch work? Thanks

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@lucianopico6318 hey man, sorry about that. It must be sold out or a dead link now. Yeah, anything that is Boss style works well. I’m not positive about the Ampero, check to see if it can work with Boss. If so, all good.

[@dawlessstrolling5306]

Nice review! Do you know; is it possible to power it through USB? (It doesn't have a battery I read)

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks man!! I don’t believe you can, I am pretty sure it is only for data transfer. I have another video in my gear playlist about a cool USB cable that can power a board from a good portable battery pack. But it still uses the 9 volt connection.

[@Rachels123]

You sound like my husband trying to organize his thoughts, and trying to teach me something.

[@DoubleDguitar]

lol I have had lots of practice at trying

[@ctnicetune141]

I like rock and metal. Are the canned drums pretty good for this type of music?

[@DoubleDguitar]

It really depends on how deep you want to get with it. For getting ideas down at different tempos and jamming on some progressions, it’s really better sounding than some of the simpler drum and looper pedals. The kit styles do change and they have some variety. However, you may get a little bored with the fact that there are only a few variations of beats that are useable on their own. In other words, it may not be enough for a full set of street performance unless you can get a lot of mileage from just a few variations. But for messing around at home and really working on ideas, it’s actually really good for that. The tones don’t wear on you or grate your ears while jamming along over and over to them. Which is good.

[@julietspaintings]

wow - that's a lot of unexpected options!

[@DoubleDguitar]

It really has some nice features. Thanks for checking it out. 🤘🏻😁

[@Quincyzmusic1]

Hello, thank you for the demo. I have a question. When you use the drum and looper together, does the drums fall out of synce after a couple times around? Does this one actually record the drums with the looped phrase so the stay in sync? The lowest model falls out of synce after one time around. Thank you

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey buddy, you are welcome. I have never had the synch go off the way you describe. It stores the tempo and drums, and I have not had any issues like that. I hope this helps, thanks man!🤘🏻

[@Quincyzmusic1]

@@DoubleDguitar Thanks so much!

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@Quincyzmusic1 any time.

[@VladoBelo]

Hi, I need some advice please. I bought a Flamma as another looper, so I have some experience with loopers. With the Flamm, I feel that the volume is very briefly higher at the beginning of each recorded loop than it is for the rest of the loop. As if there was an accent that I don't play. Sometimes I manage to close the loop without this accent, but it just bothers me. What am I doing wrong? I never observed this on Aeros, Nux Pro and Mooer X loop. Thank you for your opinion.

[@DoubleDguitar]

That is strange, I haven’t experienced that with mine. Maybe try their site for support? They are pretty good about getting back to people. There is a loop level, but it would be a constant, not a drop after a bit.

[@VladoBelo]

@@DoubleDguitar Maybe I'm not closing the loop quite right, maybe the quantization is a little different, like there's a small volume ramp.. But I've even observed that maybe the loop evened out sometimes... after stopping and restarting.. I have to practice closing the first loop, thanks and cheers 😀

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@VladoBelo good luck! I do know if you have the rhythm section enhanced, it wants to keep it to the timing of it. Try turning it off and then see if it happens.

[@star-eyedentertainment5404]

Very nice review. Can you save your own setting names ?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks! There are a couple of options to save certain parameters, but that is all.

[@robsask]

Hi. Thanks for the video. I'm wondering if I can use the side pedal to turn off and on the recorded loop while rythum is going?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey man, thanks for checking out the video. No, it doesn’t seem to do that. But the second button on the looper will turn the drums off or on. Hope that helps.

[@robsask]

Is that a yes? I have the boss rc5 and I can do that but need a midi side pedal to turn off rhythm...or else turn off manually with my finger.

[@robsask]

@Double D guitar not sure if you know what I mean... So I start the drum rythum, then record a guitar loop. Can I turn off the guitar loop while drum rhythm continues and then turn guitar loop back on anytime?

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@robsask yea, you should be able to do that. I thought you meant with the side switch only. I haven’t used this in a number of months, and not near any gear to test it. Sorry for not being clear enough, but I do know this has a lot of flexibility once you add the extra switch.

[@robsask]

@@DoubleDguitar thanks!

[@JonSmith-fc2mm]

I like how the Boss RC10R and the BeatBuddy Mini2 allow for a tap to fill or long tap to switch to second loop. Anything like that on this box?

[@DoubleDguitar]

That is the cool thing about this, with a little setup and a switch like the one I am using, you can move to another loop. It isn’t built in to the switches on the box, but is a good option they thought of. I show that at some point. If I was a really good youtuber I would have a time stamp for you lol. Sorry.

[@justinbouchard]

you had me at tip ring and sleeve

[@DoubleDguitar]

It’s a statement that gets to sooo many of us

[@justinbouchard]

lol :)

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@justinbouchard 😊🤘🏻🤙🏻thanks for checking out the vid.

[@justinbouchard]

thanks for making it! i have one on the way to me. A Strich named pedal that is the same thing different skin as far as I can tell. Does yours put only the drum track and loops through one of the outputs and the guitar out of the other by any chance?

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@justinbouchard nice, I have some Strich stuff. No, I wish it did. Let me know if you figure that out.

[@gusdemahendra]

Hi,,is it possible while play,,i only stop my looping,,but the drum is stil playing? Because sometimes a song need different chord for verse or chorus....so they the loop and drum do not stop together

[@DoubleDguitar]

I am pretty sure that you would have to reach down and push a button or two to achieve that, even with the switch. The closest I could find to this was having a blank loop with the same drums in the next patch and kick over to that when needed. It has been a little while since I filmed this and messed around on more than a basic level with this looper, so I can’t say I found a better way than that. Hope this helps.

[@gusdemahendra]

@@DoubleDguitar thank u for your replay

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@gusdemahendra sure thing. Thanks for checking out the video.

[@AngryShellback]

Great video...

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks my man!!

[@warawaiyoo7452]

Can another brand of foot switch used to flamma fs21? Or where can I buy foot switch like yours?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Apparently these are sold out from the seller I got them from. But any Boss brand or advertised as Boss compatible that you can set to momentary should work. These are two momentary switches he wired up Boss style.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Anything Boss compatible will work. Sorry for the late reply, just seeing this.

[@jeremyshermanPhD]

Question: Is there a way to stop your first loop so it automatically syncs to the drumbeat? I'm finding that little variations in how I stop the first loop's recording leaves the loop out of sync with the drums. Thanks!

[@DoubleDguitar]

Hey man, hope I can help. I haven’t noticed that for myself. I know that it all works better for me if I make sure I have the drum section on before I try to record something. I have even just used the Metronome setting and then swapped to the drums and it has kept up good synch. I know it is a little more forgiving that way, since it helps keep the recorded loops at a proper length. Maybe you are stopping the loop just a little too early for it to compensate? Definitely don’t try to record a loop without the drums and then try to add them later. That will create a larger difference that the rhythms can’t compensate for.

[@jeremyshermanPhD]

@@DoubleDguitar Thank you for this suggestion. I'm still looking for a way to make it more foolproof. For example if you use the loopy app (ios), it automatically sets the loops you're recording to the exact length of the drum loop. Takes the guesswork and fuss out of looping.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@jeremyshermanPhD yes, exactly. In fact, I have actually just gone into the patches and saved the specific tempo first. That actually really helped a couple of times. Then you can clear the loop, but the tempo remains and will be there for the next time you play that particular patch/song.

[@jeremyshermanPhD]

@@DoubleDguitar I appreciate this help Double D but I must still not be making myself clear. I'm not good at hitting the stop recording loop button on time. I could get better at it but until then and for live gigs, I'd like it if it quantized my loop to match the length of the drum measure. That's what the app loopy does. In Loopy. You specify how many measures you want to record and once you start it, it stops automatically at the end. I'm guessing the pedal can't do that, or even quantize my recording to match the downbeat. So I'm guessing I'll just have to train my foot better.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@jeremyshermanPhD gotcha. Yeah, a lot of the things I am used to about my Boss are not available here with this unit. Keep trying things, you may find a routine with it that works.

[@dilbone1]

Is there a way to turn the loop off yet keep the drums going? External switch? Im a singer songwriter and will probably only use this to have a rhythm loop going for some lead breaks in songs then shut off the loop and play along the rest of the song with the drum machine with no loops running. Is that possible?

[@DoubleDguitar]

It is possible, but not intuitive. When you press the button in the middle, you can control which stops and starts. So if you always do that, or don’t mind reaching down to the pedal to change things as needed, it can.

[@dilbone1]

​@@DoubleDguitarso you have to undo the merger to separate them? Does that mess up the sync of how it trims the loop for the drum?

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@dilbone1 it can throw synch off, if you change to another patch.

[@dilbone1]

​@DoubleDguitar ok, last question I swear...lol. could I just use the undo/redo feature since I'll only ever have one loop going at a time? Or will the undo automatically cause the device enter record mode? Thanks for all of your input. So helpful before making a purchase!!

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@dilbone1 hmm that’s a good question. I feel like I mention that at some point in the video, but I’m at work and can’t take time to time stamp that. I feel like this is possible. And using a dual button switch definitely makes it a lot easier to use this thing.

[@bikersoncall]

The flamma looks better but if they're the same pedal, with different knobs, I'll go ahead and order a Circle looper since there is at least on good tutorial on the basics of looping with it. Boss has gotten so intensely complex and tedious, though the sound quality is 32 bit vs 24 bit, I can't see myself wasting hours and hours trying to get the best out of it, I don't have that kind of time on my hands.. lol

[@lennykarat]

If I had to add a dual foot switch to the FS-21, will it matter if it is momentary or unlatched?

[@DoubleDguitar]

You will have better luck with it momentary.

[@lennykarat]

@@DoubleDguitar Thank you

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@lennykarat you’re welcome, glad I could help.

[@cudacalibre9329]

Is it possible to switch the style within the genre while playing to make kind of a solo section type thing with the drums? I know the beatbuddy offered that and fills I didn’t know if this did something like that

[@DoubleDguitar]

Yes, though it can be a little tricky. Using the control switch, selecting the drum side, the buttons will go up and down between the different drum beats and styles. However, some styles have odd time signature patterns in their mix, so you have to be aware of what moves you want to do before you try to make it happen. But being quick with your foot, yes. And you can start a drumbeat and then play along, with or without the looper.

[@MrChristop4]

I don't seem to be able to get a simple 3/4 beat. Any suggestion will be much appreciated

[@DoubleDguitar]

The rhythms are tied to their time signature and each one only has a few choices. As you scroll through the styles, the time sig will appear on the right of the screen. You have to scroll until you see a 3/4 option and not all the rhythms have it. Hope this helps.

[@joehellena1787]

Can we keep the drum on while turn off the loop?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Yeah, they can be on or off or just one of them running.

[@Dziggy71]

What EXT control pedal are you using? I'm trying to find a good EXT pedal for mine.

[@Dziggy71]

I found it. Details above wouldn't open. Awesome video, I just subscribed. New to pedals.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@Dziggy71 thanks buddy! And I am glad you found it. I just grabbed one off EBay that said BOSS style. It worked great and welcome to the channel!

[@johnnygaldworth]

Do I need an external foot switch to combine two drum tempos?

[@DoubleDguitar]

It seems like that is the easiest way.

[@kevmac1230]

So it's a reversion of the Donner Circle looper?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Pretty much, not sure which was first.

[@kevmac1230]

@@DoubleDguitar I don't know for sure.I've had the Circle for a couple of years.However I suck at looping regardless.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@kevmac1230 I struggle with the timing of my foot and creating a convincing loop in and out point. That’s why anything with a guide is appreciated by my fumble feet.

[@jonroxy7960]

Hi Sir, Does Flamma can do a fill in drum option in pedal or external pedal?

[@DoubleDguitar]

It doesn’t have that option, that is found in the beat buddy. Would be nice in this!!

[@jonroxy7960]

@@DoubleDguitar Thanks . What about other brand NUX looper and drum ? Have you tried it already ? Coz I’m am planning to have one Looper and drum machine. There’s a lot of brand I saw in KZbin but it’s hard for me to choose. I just used acoustic and singing. Need your best advice . Thanks

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@jonroxy7960 I haven’t tried the Nux stuff, a few people have asked me to. I can highly recommend this and Boss stuff, but can’t say much about drum fill adds on the fly like that other than the beat buddy. The new Headrush looper does look amazing, but really big.

[@jonroxy7960]

@@DoubleDguitar In fact I’m really impressed bout Flamma. And I like the monitor and those LED. Anyway Sir Thank you very much for a good advice.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@jonroxy7960 the Flamma stuff that I have grabbed has all been great. Thanks for watching and have fun!

[@guitarplayer1969]

I just bought one, but have seen people using them with 3 switch control boxes.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Oh really? The Digitech ones?? I don’t know if the third button would do anything, but it may. I had one of the three button digitech switches for a while, but sold it off with one of their multi expression units. Let me know what you think of the looper and thanks for checking out the video. 🤘🏻

[@guitarplayer1969]

@@DoubleDguitar I read people using the Digitech Fs3X or equivalent footswich on the Donner Circle looper which is the same unit as the Flamma FS21. I bet the third switch would be like a press on the black knobs.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@guitarplayer1969 this changes everything lol. Wow. Thanks for letting me know!! I will look into that. 👍🏻🤘🏻

[@KarzenX]

How many tracks play simultaneously? thanks

[@DoubleDguitar]

It only has one loop per save patch. But you can over dub almost unlimited times, memory space considered. Thanks for checking out the vid!

[@henriquecorreia9917]

Same as Donner Circle Looper

[@DoubleDguitar]

Seems to be very similar. I saw that the Donner one had just come out recently. Same amount of memory slots. I am guessing a mildly different control layout and different drum loops.

[@daleduke1315]

Questions. Stereo, only have one modeling Amp, what do I do to get stereo, another Amp? And, all my effects on Amp, well with playback I cannot separate parts with reverb, delay, etc. Do I need effect pedals if front of looper? Getting senile I guess. Nice haircut, did you get an office job? 😁

[@DoubleDguitar]

We all have questions and thanks about the haircut 🤣 You can use this in mono mode and still get what you want from it. However with modeling, unless you plug into the loop of the amp, your recorded loop sounds will change when you change patches. Using the loop puts it after, and then I bet you can even use the right output to another amp set clean or a return section of an amp. Does your amp have an fx loop?

[@daleduke1315]

@@DoubleDguitar nope. Lt25 fender. But if I play a track dry on the loop, then put a delay pedal in front of looper, play a lead, will I get separation. At least you have hair.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@daleduke1315 yes, add some pre effects to the looper and you can record dry, then add those effects and be good. Send to another amp, Double gooD. 😁

[@daleduke1315]

@@DoubleDguitar very good. Your able to explain tech stuff, so we can just enjoy, and not read the directions. Respect.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@daleduke1315 that means so much to me and is my goal moving forward with these types of videos. I am really glad you got something out of this and can’t thank you enough for “getting it” here. 🙏🏻🤘🏻

[@astra6000]

It is possible to import a backing track longer than 4 min?

[@DoubleDguitar]

I have not tried, if you are having trouble doing that maybe convert to file to a smaller size or format? I am generally just making loops with it and my other pieces. Maybe someone else here has a suggestion?

[@magnusjohansson295]

It would have been good if you could name the saved loops.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Ah yeah, that would be a nice touch.

[@charliecap6909]

I SAVED THOUSANDS NOT HAVING A REAL DRUMMER FOR SHOWS WITH THIS // NEXT I HOPE THEY MAKE A BASS GUITAR MACHINE I LIKE TO BE A SOLO PLAYER

[@DoubleDguitar]

Ha yeah!! That would be cool. I use it with a keyboard and a bass through mixer. It works great!

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@holygeneration7 awesome! I am glad it helped and hey also, thanks for subscribing to the channel! I really dig this thing and use it for a bunch of stuff here. All my best!🤘🏻

[@dustinarnold79]

How do the drums sound in person

[@DoubleDguitar]

Actually, really good. I would even say a little better than my RC300, but I didn’t do a true comparison.

[@StuartAlanThomas]

I am having major Volume issues going through my "effects loop" the Rhythm Section is way too loud..I have the Rhythm Section Volume at 1 & you can hear it outside my house..it's that loud..contacted Flamma haven't heard anything yet..anyone having this same issue or ideas ?

[@DoubleDguitar]

Interesting, what kind of an amp is it? Does the loop itself have a send volume level?

[@StuartAlanThomas]

@@DoubleDguitar Thx for the quick response..Marshall DSL 20HR / no send volume level.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@StuartAlanThomas odd, and it overpowers the guitar when you play? I know I had to tweak the balance of the playback of my recorded loops and the drums before I got a nice level. But the guitar sat well with it. Sounds like it is too loud all around, for you. Hopefully they can help, maybe a firmware update from them to give more level control. 5 choices of volume isn’t a lot for something that doesn’t allow you to isolate the drums from the guitar.

[@StuartAlanThomas]

@@DoubleDguitar I wouldn't say it overpowers my guitar volume, but Holy-Sh** it is unusable being that loud at 1 the lowest volume setting.I am thinking I must have bad one or in need of a Firmware update the volume on the Looper section works great my "effects loop" on the amp is really good too..the Rhythm Section volume is out of wack.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@StuartAlanThomas I hope they get you sorted. Do you have another amp to try it with?

[@thequestlivetolearntolive.8555]

You all know you can voice record i love mine

[@DoubleDguitar]

Thanks for the good suggestion! Nobody wants to hear me do that😆, but I know others will want to be able to do so.

[@Andremineirouai]

Qual é o melhor Fs21 ou Fs01 ?

[@DoubleDguitar]

FS21 has Looper, 01 is just for Drums. Hope this helps!

[@kvvnng]

Can you set the exact tempo with a knob? I.e., not tap tempo.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Yes, you sure can. Makes it a lot easier when setting up songs in advance for later performance.

[@kvvnng]

@@DoubleDguitar I'm considering this pedal, but couldn't find how to do it in the manual. Could you shed some details on how it's done? Can I set the exact tempo - e.g., 120BPM?

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@kvvnng sure. You have to push the drum knob on top in to select the drum side of the pedal. You turn it to select the BPM light, then push it in again and you can then turn it to change the tempo.

[@kvvnng]

@@DoubleDguitar Thanks so much

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@kvvnng you got it, buddy. 🤘🏻

[@32shumble]

If only there was an option to assign the drum sounds to a separate output. :-(

[@DoubleDguitar]

I agree, it would make this a perfect little unit.

[@32shumble]

@@DoubleDguitar I'd be right in there!

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@32shumble I hear you. I hope they do something like that for the next one. I think the company has a lot going for it.

[@dustinarnold79]

If you don't have an effects loop on your amp is this still usable

[@DoubleDguitar]

It wouldn’t be with the drums going into a dirty amp. If you use gain pedals into a clean amp, not a problem. But still not as clear as what they would would like into a mixer, or even a return. Since the guitar speakers will not have quite the frequency range for kicks and hats. But it can work fine for solo practice time and probably some band jams.

[@dustinarnold79]

@@DoubleDguitar so in theory as long as you put it last in your pedal board it won't get distorted

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@dustinarnold79 yes, I like that anyway so that if I change any sounds after making a loop, it only changes my guitar sound and not the loop that has been recorded. So that is the way, for sure. 🤘🏻

[@rogerm7922]

It’s a shame they put a product out with absolute horrendous user manual .

[@DoubleDguitar]

This is very true. So many products don’t come with anything helpful and you resort to googling or downloading whatever they do have available. I like the Flamma stuff, it is a trial by fire however 😆🤘🏻

[@rickharper3940]

yeah. i got one today that has exactly one rhythm loaded into it. flamma are usually very good. this is my first boner from them. i'm sending it back, getting a replacement. mine acts nothing like yours. the drum knob does nothing. possibly cos there's only file in there! does this thing HAVE TO HAVE a switcher? don't see any software either on how to get it... it's always something. the cymbals sound great on this thing...regards ✌

[@DoubleDguitar]

Whoa! That is weird. They are usually good with all their pedals. Yeah, send it back. Pretty weird. Thanks for checking out the video, no problems like that with this one. 🤘🏻

[@rickharper3940]

@@DoubleDguitar It was user error. in other words i didn't know you have to press and turn the knobs. i corrected my review and cancelled the replacement. i'm not good with multi-function controls and no real manual. but it worked out ok. i don't understand the USB thing though...more research...

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@rickharper3940 oh great! I am glad you worked that out. The USB will be for importing or exporting loops. I am not sure about drum beats, possibly….let me know what you find out. I just tend to use the built in ones and get as close as I can.

[@bikersoncall]

I wish your video skipped the 'control' pedal altogether and focused on how to use this pedal. So far I find a good video on the Circle looper, but not on the flamma.

[@DoubleDguitar]

Looping itself can really be an art, and this is a pretty basic level looper. In the sense that it only has one track and can synch up with the drum tracks, for smoother loops. Would have loved to have gone on for a lot longer, not always easy to cover it all. It is a fun looper and the circle will function the same as this.