Creating 'Robocop': Special effects then and now | Behind The Scenes

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Flashback FilmMaking

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@herrlogan17
@herrlogan17 10 ай бұрын
We will forget dozens and dozens movies with cgi graphics, but Robo still remains classic.
@trashyraccoon2615
@trashyraccoon2615 10 ай бұрын
Good writing, edgy social commentary, dark humor, compelling premise… all the stuff that today’s dumbo CG movies lack
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 10 ай бұрын
All these wonderful artists, set builders, puppeteers, etc...all replaced by a computer program used to make video games. CGI movies should be called animated movies, NOT films. Modern kids think Marvel movies are 'art', and Dracula, Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, etc are 'boring', and 'ugly'. We live in a world were art is not valued anymore, even by the consumer.
@trashyraccoon2615
@trashyraccoon2615 10 ай бұрын
@@kennethc2466 You’re right about a lot there. To be fair, a lot of masterpieces were considered boring and dumb when they were released. The Magnificent Ambersons by Orson Welles for example. Now considered a masterpiece. The studio actually re edited it without his permission
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 10 ай бұрын
@@trashyraccoon2615 The film was nominated for four Academy Awards, including Best Picture, that year. It also won in National Board of Review Awards, and New York Film Critics Circle Awards. I'd hardly call 'considered boring' as the consensus at the time.
@joebloggs2857
@joebloggs2857 10 ай бұрын
The dumbing down of human ingenuity....all by design.....🤑🤑🤑🤑😷😷😷😷😷😷😥😥😥😥
@Demonmixer
@Demonmixer 10 ай бұрын
The special effects in this film are awesome. The whole film is a pure masterpiece.
@cheulesyigess1187
@cheulesyigess1187 10 ай бұрын
This is absolute top notch material for one of the best movies ever created!
@vinilima1227
@vinilima1227 10 ай бұрын
Nothing better than watching the behind the scenes process of my favorite movie of all time !! ❤❤❤❤❤
@catmeow11111
@catmeow11111 10 ай бұрын
Amazing that the design for ED209 and Robocop still look cool as fuck and not dated at all. What a movie!
@theshapeexists
@theshapeexists 10 ай бұрын
Yep, and kanes cyborg was wicked looking for part 2 as well.i love the scene where he's flying up the elevator shaft to get RoboCop
@Jooligan1
@Jooligan1 10 ай бұрын
Robocop's pre CGI animation was brilliant - nothing needed improving and that's why it's a classic.
@trashyraccoon2615
@trashyraccoon2615 10 ай бұрын
But they weren’t using CGI, it’s almost all analog and traditional film FX
@jawarakf
@jawarakf 10 ай бұрын
​@@trashyraccoon2615we need 1 last sequel of Robocop 4 with full size movable robotic ED209 with Peter Weller returning as Robocop with his face motion capture imposed on body double that will wear the suit. Murphy would age so Peter Weller fits this character. We all wanted to see Robocop ending, whether he gets to reunite with his family
@trashyraccoon2615
@trashyraccoon2615 10 ай бұрын
@@jawarakf Yo, that would be sick
@keithfulkerson
@keithfulkerson 10 ай бұрын
The guy falling out of the window could definitely be improved.
@Jooligan1
@Jooligan1 10 ай бұрын
Yeh but it was a classic funny bit when he bounced of the mattress !! @@keithfulkerson
@arashnikoubashman6946
@arashnikoubashman6946 10 ай бұрын
Crazy how much work went into „simple“ things like muzzle flash. Mind blowing creativity
@bigmanfrank5708
@bigmanfrank5708 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this inside scoop of making of such an iconic film
@Theonlysunaz
@Theonlysunaz 10 ай бұрын
I always loved how long the arms were when he was falling off the building.
@clarenceboddicker6679
@clarenceboddicker6679 10 ай бұрын
The long arms of the law
@samik83
@samik83 10 ай бұрын
Yeah wonder how they messed up the arms so bad. Like double the lenght
@oRealAlieNo
@oRealAlieNo 10 ай бұрын
Slenderman
@clarenceboddicker6679
@clarenceboddicker6679 10 ай бұрын
@samik83 If you respect the law you will understand why the arms were so long
@keithdavison2960
@keithdavison2960 10 ай бұрын
Weird he was proud of that
@wormskull2454
@wormskull2454 10 ай бұрын
“Ya know our hearts were in it so much that compensation, even, wasn’t necessarily important. Just contributing to this whole, kind of process.” Aaah that passionate punk rock drive to create art regardless of compensation. That’s the mark of high quality.
@TheHonestFoodTeller
@TheHonestFoodTeller 10 ай бұрын
ED-209 was one of the coolest movie robots of my childhood. The design was so unique, only the villain from RoboCop 2 beats him somehow.
@theshapeexists
@theshapeexists 10 ай бұрын
Kanes robot was just so much more detailed, and knowing the brain inside controlling it was a drug addicted murderer made it even more terrifying.
@f0urstr1ng
@f0urstr1ng 5 ай бұрын
They’re painting it as purely an action movie. This is why I didn’t go to see it at the time. Glad I found it eventually. Robocop really is like a good album, as was. You just keep going back to it
@southlondon86
@southlondon86 10 ай бұрын
4:48 Sorry but the extra long arms are hilarious. With all the attention to detail in this film how could they have messed that up!?
@21stcenturyscots
@21stcenturyscots 10 ай бұрын
Not messed up at all. Those arms are long for a very good reason. They are the Long Arms of The Law.
@DrVink86
@DrVink86 10 ай бұрын
I feel very vindicated that I'm not the only one that's annoyed by the extra long stretch armstrong arms haha
@NipItInTheBud100
@NipItInTheBud100 10 ай бұрын
Robocop is and always will be one of my favorite movies! Just a great movie!
@dianewilliams1125
@dianewilliams1125 10 ай бұрын
I'm even more freaked out that there was an actual model! 😮😮😮That thing scares the hell out of me!
@DaboooogA
@DaboooogA 10 ай бұрын
Some of the best stop motion work ever, though Robocop 2 also had excellent stop motion.
@nestoraoc32
@nestoraoc32 10 ай бұрын
Great Video! Thanks!
@EVCarGuy
@EVCarGuy 10 ай бұрын
So THAT'S the effects guy who's responsible for giving the falling Dick Jones puppet extremely long arms!
@Tweekend27
@Tweekend27 9 ай бұрын
There's footage of Roco explaining why the arms were a fail in that shot. Yes, he's acknowledged the blunder.
@rickytoddbotelho9555
@rickytoddbotelho9555 10 ай бұрын
Excellent job with this upload 💯❤️😄
@21stcenturyscots
@21stcenturyscots 10 ай бұрын
@Paul Sammon, Craig Hayes, William Sandell, and Rocco Gioffre That idea of cotton and electronic flash for muzzle flash is brilliant. Thank you for sharing it!
@ian-read
@ian-read 10 ай бұрын
Good to see the Cinefex in Paul Sammon's office - RIP Cinefex, the whole industry should be ashamed that they refused to help save it.
@meowmeow1733
@meowmeow1733 10 ай бұрын
The creativity is amazing....."thinking outside the box" as they say. But now.......there's sora.
@ErmWhatTheSigma12790
@ErmWhatTheSigma12790 10 ай бұрын
Personally I think the perfect special effects recipe is practical with a slight touch up of computer graphics.
@schumy1975
@schumy1975 10 ай бұрын
absolutely fascinating, salute to these genius movie makers!
@cellularpeptidecake
@cellularpeptidecake 10 ай бұрын
Dick Jones falling out the window is probably the worst effects shot from the entire decade. It'd be interesting to know the rationale behind using a foam puppet vs. a stunt double against a green screen. Someone must've really loved stop motion.
10 ай бұрын
😂 thats true, I would have cut this made off out because even when I was a kid, we laughed at those long arms 😂
@DrVink86
@DrVink86 10 ай бұрын
all I can ever look at are those long ass arms
@andreatomassini5521
@andreatomassini5521 9 ай бұрын
" the worst effects shot from the entire decade" you obviously weren't around back then...
@xtrm2009
@xtrm2009 4 ай бұрын
Lmao Like wtf was effects guy thinking? Lol!!! All he had to do is put the actor in front of the blue screen and lift him up with wires. Or just have the guy lay down on a blue tarp or blue painted floor and film him with the camera above. They had one job....
@patrickmirza8547
@patrickmirza8547 14 күн бұрын
It apparently was a distortion caused by the the lens he was using for filming the stop motion puppet. They didn't have time to reanimate the scene.
@tlgaezn319
@tlgaezn319 10 ай бұрын
Every pennie worth...this was Art
@Thesmartestmanalive81
@Thesmartestmanalive81 10 ай бұрын
9:41 this film has stood the test of time because of the designers and creators love for their project. if only todays films were made with more heart and passion instead of corporate greed in mind.
@clarenceboddicker6679
@clarenceboddicker6679 10 ай бұрын
The years I spent working for Dick Jones were the best of my life.
@Thesmartestmanalive81
@Thesmartestmanalive81 10 ай бұрын
@@clarenceboddicker6679 🤣🤣🤣
@karaloca
@karaloca 10 ай бұрын
What’s with his super long arms as he’s falling through the glass window?
@Ganiscol
@Ganiscol 10 ай бұрын
ED-209 - My second favorite badass robotic killermachine after the Terminator(s) 😊 "He didn't hear the gun drop!" 😂
@goonerfactor62006
@goonerfactor62006 10 ай бұрын
Get a god dam paramedic
@Psycandy
@Psycandy 10 ай бұрын
worked on a TVC with Robo in 2019. IMHO these guys are geniuses, legends of an altogether different order. I also work in-camera, also experienced the joy of compositing with emulsion and equally moved into CG as quickly as possible. I feel it is a great loss to the craft, to the magic of storytelling and spellbound audiences, that practicals are vanishing, mattes, miniatures... but also know that 98% of the work is in camera and some 2% post, so all digital does is speed everything up but that's about it
@GraveyardNo6
@GraveyardNo6 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for video. Very interesting.
@vincialessandro6612
@vincialessandro6612 Ай бұрын
C'è nel dvd
@GraveyardNo6
@GraveyardNo6 Ай бұрын
@@vincialessandro6612 well, i dont have dvd with this movie
@snakefinger
@snakefinger 5 ай бұрын
Geniuses ! I love every body involved in the making of this movie.
@Spee78
@Spee78 10 ай бұрын
People....... we proudly present you....... Robocop!! *what people remember till today**............. ED-209...... me included :D
@MyCatInABox
@MyCatInABox 10 ай бұрын
True Masters of their craft😁👍
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 10 ай бұрын
That mech looks and functions pretty genuine.
@RedHeadKevin
@RedHeadKevin 10 ай бұрын
Hearing about how the used to do matte paintings physically is fascinating given how it's done today. Now they can just digitally cut-and-paste the foreground over the matte, and it's pretty much all set.
@hamzaouamrouche57
@hamzaouamrouche57 10 ай бұрын
Amazing Visual and digital effects
@anthonycarlisle6184
@anthonycarlisle6184 10 ай бұрын
They're on my special edition dvd robocop.🤷
@metern
@metern 10 ай бұрын
Why did ED-209 sound like a squealing pig when it falls down the stairs 😂
@georgeshulga
@georgeshulga 4 ай бұрын
Great doco! But how come none of these making of Robocop videos never show/talk about the SFX on the guy who got drenched in the toxic chemical waste? That limping blob is forever burned into my memory 😂
@vincialessandro6612
@vincialessandro6612 3 ай бұрын
C'è nel dvd
@crazyivan030983
@crazyivan030983 10 ай бұрын
Robocop fx is a masterpiece.
@RA-uj3nm
@RA-uj3nm 10 ай бұрын
Very talented people 👍👍
@JonnyMack33
@JonnyMack33 10 ай бұрын
5:15 that is truly awful! 😂 interesting though.
@xtrm2009
@xtrm2009 4 ай бұрын
Lmao Like wtf was effects guy thinking? Lol!!! All he had to do is put the actor in front of the blue screen and lift him up with wires.
@MimicusIM
@MimicusIM 10 ай бұрын
Imagine behind the scenes video like this about the Moonlanding.
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR 2 күн бұрын
I prefer the effects of old. They look and feel real.
@JCD87
@JCD87 8 ай бұрын
I still amazed watching this, for that time... and love the 'clunky'ness of the animation. Also agree with the current tech would replace StopMotion alltogether, but somewhere in my mind; that old stopmotion would still have it's charm. And ED-209 will become reality one day, like Knightrider is basically covered in automobiles these days; videocall, turboboost, articulating spoilers, self driving (!) and whatnot.
@0508toya
@0508toya 10 ай бұрын
내인생에 로보캅은, 2편으로.끝났다👍✨️
@paulbarfo4079
@paulbarfo4079 9 ай бұрын
These guys are geniuses
@Riceshiro
@Riceshiro 10 ай бұрын
When I was watch this as a kid, I didn't understand the story. But I rewatch this mostly for the special effects.
@signalenergie
@signalenergie 7 ай бұрын
This is unbelievable.
@Westkane11
@Westkane11 10 ай бұрын
Legend!
@joshoshea3194
@joshoshea3194 10 ай бұрын
But he must've known at that point the fore arms were far too long?
@williamshaw9047
@williamshaw9047 10 ай бұрын
Rocco Gioffre also did matte paintings of the Grand Canyon and Walley World for National Lampoon's Vacation.
@massapower
@massapower 10 ай бұрын
Better then Crappy CGI..
@dennisneo1608
@dennisneo1608 10 ай бұрын
Why were his arms so ludicrously long??? I'll never get that.
@vincecotton127
@vincecotton127 10 ай бұрын
Why did you make his arms so F%^king LONG!!!?
@BRMakesStuff
@BRMakesStuff 10 ай бұрын
Wish there was an explanation of the squeal.
@anthonycarlisle6184
@anthonycarlisle6184 10 ай бұрын
The ed 209 versions [big version and narrower headed version I thoughtl they were just different iterations às if they produced a bunch
@kevindarkstar
@kevindarkstar 10 ай бұрын
4:45 oh so YOU'RE responsible for the huge monkey arms on that shot, certainly nothing human looking there 😂
@cheulesyigess1187
@cheulesyigess1187 10 ай бұрын
two meters arms of falling Dick Jones are now legendary :)
@Thesmartestmanalive81
@Thesmartestmanalive81 10 ай бұрын
@@cheulesyigess1187 the actors arms were actually really long and they had to make shots where his arms didn’t seem quite so long.
@xtrm2009
@xtrm2009 4 ай бұрын
Lmao Like wtf was effects guy thinking? Lol!!! All he had to do is put the actor in front of the blue screen and lift him up with wires. Or just lay him down on a blue tarp or blue painted floor and film him from above.
@barclaybehie7787
@barclaybehie7787 10 ай бұрын
Still rather watch a movie with practical effect than CGI.
@wunkskorks2623
@wunkskorks2623 Ай бұрын
I always thought the arms were a little too long on the Dick Jones falling model. But, I’ve never done anything that merited acclaim so, I guess they did it right.
@Prjm87
@Prjm87 10 ай бұрын
Are these all from the documentary bluray
@PhantomHelix
@PhantomHelix 10 ай бұрын
ripped from ROBODOC, shamefull
@Duraltia
@Duraltia 9 ай бұрын
@16:39 Yeaaa... Stop motion in predominantly Live Action films like RoboCop are probably a thing of the past and barely missed albeit still kicking ass and taking names in pure Stop Motion Movies like the 2016 Kubo and the Two Strings. Still tipping my Hat to Phil and his work on RoboCop 2 with RoboCain... Pure Sex-Appeal how they animated that monster which made appreciate it even more when I played the 2023 RoboCop: Rogue City with its atrociously bad choreographed and animated final Boss Fight sporting an unnecessarily unrecognizable move set for that Enemy when compared to the Movie.
@prltqdf9
@prltqdf9 10 ай бұрын
The matte painters of yore were magicians.
@johnwatson3948
@johnwatson3948 10 ай бұрын
Had not heard about killer whales - but an interview in Cinefex said the look of ED-209 was inspired by the nose of the LTV A-7 fighter jet.
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 10 ай бұрын
I almost puked while watching Paul Verhoeven's Spetters(1980). What a wild movie!
@DiegoAmbrósio-o6m
@DiegoAmbrósio-o6m 4 ай бұрын
To the kid I was then, this is almost the disproof about Santa.
@GoodMrDawes
@GoodMrDawes 10 ай бұрын
It is great
@hamzaouamrouche57
@hamzaouamrouche57 10 ай бұрын
Robocop before and now a good job
@dafrog491
@dafrog491 10 ай бұрын
Stop motion and matte painting over cgi any day of the week.
@davidmckayii752
@davidmckayii752 5 ай бұрын
The architecture of Dallas at the time, was spot on for the feel of Robocop, deep state brutalism, almost boring, but beautiful because of the humanity at its core.
@Mophonic
@Mophonic 9 ай бұрын
these people knew what they were doing.
@carlosalbertovarela8873
@carlosalbertovarela8873 10 ай бұрын
genial ❤
@colossuses
@colossuses 10 ай бұрын
He broke the puppet. Probably doesn't realise how valuable it is at an auction
@alexanderdgray
@alexanderdgray 10 ай бұрын
I'd buy that for a dollar.
@ToyFiend
@ToyFiend 10 ай бұрын
A masterpiece of a movie, ruined by that ridiculous Dick Jones puppet falling. Verhoeven should have cut that shit out and inserted a practical shot of dude splatting on the street or something. And only 1 year later, Die Hard did the same shot by dropping Allan Rickman from camera and it was perfect.
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 10 ай бұрын
Ronny Cox action figure.
@HocusFocusProductions
@HocusFocusProductions 10 ай бұрын
"You can go to a store and you can buy the software, the hardware..." I'm over 50 and even I know you don't go to stores for that stuff anymore. I'm guessing this is an older video.
@vincialessandro6612
@vincialessandro6612 8 ай бұрын
Phil sono creatori di tremors 2
@skylerrutherford9870
@skylerrutherford9870 10 ай бұрын
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
@mikesilva3868
@mikesilva3868 10 ай бұрын
Huge fan of the 1987 robocop movie the sequel was good robocop 3 and the 2014 remake was terrible in my opinion 😊
@ashhawk2346
@ashhawk2346 10 ай бұрын
Robocop 3 wasn't the worst of the lot but I absolutely agree! The moment they didn't use Peter Weller, it wasn't Robocop any more..
@joeskis
@joeskis 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't want to be associated with that human model falling out the window. The proportions were way off. It looked terrible.
@leiag201
@leiag201 10 ай бұрын
Movies are just cartoons now. I won't even bother seeing the sequel to Avatar cause it's just all CG'd to hell and back. It might as well be a Pixar production. At least the first one was grounded in realistic looking special effects
@kevinhartmann7887
@kevinhartmann7887 10 ай бұрын
Some of the FX are really Rubbish, but some are great.
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv 10 ай бұрын
looked way more real back then than it does now! I can tell very very easy when it's this newer current cgi. and it's in damn near every movie now, and It turns me off. it takes the realism away for me. sorry.. I'm old school I guess? but them effects were perfect. real vs pc.. I'm going to choose REAL every time! no wonder people think we're in a simulation? we're screwed!
@piotrwillow6440
@piotrwillow6440 10 ай бұрын
4:16 I am surprised he brags about this shot, it's absolutely awful, then and 30 years later, the puppet is abysmal, funny this guy was not fired for this
@АртёмГармаев-й1с
@АртёмГармаев-й1с 10 ай бұрын
в 2024 выкладывать видео в 360р.. вы чего?
@spiralfirst6488
@spiralfirst6488 10 ай бұрын
My first girlfriend looked like ED-209.
@samuelwilliams8575
@samuelwilliams8575 10 ай бұрын
The shot of Dick Jones falling from the OCP building, is the worst shot in the film. Love that film, but his arms being too long, makes it obvious that he isn't real
@Buck3366
@Buck3366 10 ай бұрын
Seeing the Dick Jones model cast you can now see how ridiculously long the arms were. What an awful looking thing it was that only went on to make a bad effect look worse. They should have just cut that fall scene completely and just had Cox go through the window backwards and cut away with him screaming as he fell off camera.
@Dr.MSC.W.Krueger
@Dr.MSC.W.Krueger 10 ай бұрын
They explicitly wanted the fall in a wide shot. Back then you would usually get the actor back for that part, put him in a harness in front of blue screen and pull the camera back on a very long track(30 meters and more). That apparently wasn't an option so far into post at that point. It is what it is. 🤷‍♂
@przemysawpawlinski5536
@przemysawpawlinski5536 10 ай бұрын
4:47 What that guy is saying???? The fall of Dick Jones looks like shit.
@trashyraccoon2615
@trashyraccoon2615 10 ай бұрын
It’s supposed to be comical, dude
@przemysawpawlinski5536
@przemysawpawlinski5536 10 ай бұрын
@@trashyraccoon2615 Sorry. I don't care how it should look. One thing matters: It looks like shit.
@ИгорьГон-г9я
@ИгорьГон-г9я 10 ай бұрын
Есть рободок
@subseeker
@subseeker 6 ай бұрын
They ruined ED-209 by the pig squeel, after falling down the stairs, it's just... No.
@devileyes8769
@devileyes8769 10 ай бұрын
на русский озвучить забыли?)
@scifiguy26
@scifiguy26 10 ай бұрын
So that was the guy that was responsible for Dick "long arms" Jones 😆
@mehere3013
@mehere3013 10 ай бұрын
now all movies are done the cheap and easy way , cgi
@yuikaili6088
@yuikaili6088 10 ай бұрын
本來啊就算係我啊知道一個人 男有問題 就算我哋我個頭都有問題 有machin e autO lkill 加大件事 dangerOu s明白
@Nibbles69
@Nibbles69 Ай бұрын
The only problem with the falling puppet scene for me, is it starts so close to the camera, once it's further away, it looks really good. But salute to everyone responsible for this movie, it is still better than most if not all movies that come out today. 🫡🤖👮
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