FLAT RATE IS DEAD 💀 THE SUBSCRIBERS HAVE SPOKEN

The third and final video in my flat rate series. Leading up to my subscribers submissions on their outlook on the flatrate system as well as my thoughts on what needs to happen in the future. Leave your input in the comments below or check out the prior videos!!!....
Part 1:
• FLAT RATE PAY FOR MECH...
Part 2:
• FLAT RATE IS READY TO ...

[@dieselmonkey3796]

As someone who’s just starting out in this career field, I’m dreading the day i have to go flat rate.

[@E39M5SPEED]

Flat rate would be fair if techs get 50% of hourly rate shop charges.

[@mikejackson4300]

The biggest problem I have with flat rate is that whatever the flat rate is for the customer pay needs to be the same as warranty. For example if customer pay is 2 hours to put a coil pack on then if it’s under warranty, warranty should pay 2 hours not 0.75 . Until that is fixed then nobody wants to do warranty work.

[@nicklabudie8463]

Chrsyler paying 1.2 for wiring harnesses that take the entire day thats what screws me up or some of there pay is .4 one or both. My dealer is mostly all warranty in michigan. We work 80 to 90 hours just to turn 50 to 60 because warranty pay is so bad.

[@fuckjewtube69]

Youre a loser for accepting that and so are all mechanics thats let that happen, thats the problem. Grow some balls and tell them to fuck off.

[@jasonn2284]

I use to make $30 an hour at Mercedes Benz for 7 years. I Quit the automotive world because it’s fucking bullshit how a parts advisor, service writer can make the same with bonus while sitting on their ass. Went back to school and now I make $48 an hr straight time as a mechanic. I work 12 hour days, 4 days a week, 5 weeks holiday after 8 years. Union shop!!! Kenworth dealership. $1000 tool allowance a year, $250 boot allowance, full benefits. If anyone calls my bullshit I’ll send my union contract to you. I’m from B.C. Canada. This isn’t even the top industry standards. Transit bus company pays their guys $51 an hour straight time because it’s government. They have it super cushy. I know a tech that made $204,000 with over time. Again if someone calls my bullshit I will email you my t4 and or we can go for coffee. My advice for mechanics join a union or find a new career unless you are super passionate. I find passion dies unless you own your own shop then it tends to lasts. Starting a family while being flat rate is extremely hard. You get super tired at the end of the day and your mood will effect your family. Again that’s why a guys sitting on his ass all day tends to have a lot more energy coming home, playing sports with his kids or energy for other activities. Life’s too short to deteriorate your body as a technician. Let alone needing to spend over $10,000 on tools. As well if you wanted to buy your own home the banks tend to not lend money to guys who are flat rate here in Canada unless you had a big downpayment. I’ve been in the game for 15 years seen it all. No shop is perfect managers come and go, customers are good and bad, we need to stand together and make the industry standards the same across the board in North America.

[@BOOSTerrific]

Heavy diesel mechanic here, I am hourly with monthly bonus, our bonus is based on GP. You have the potential to make more than the branch manager, add on quarterly safety bonuses and holiday bonuses. Let's not forget the double time after hour service calls. We had a guy make almost 100k last year, I know that doesnt seem much to some folks but we live in a fairly impoverished area. Last year a guy

[@1primacron]

Warranty time in this industry is a joke. A good example for this is as a Ford mechanic, they only give you 5 hours to replace a evaporator on a new Mustang v8. I would love to get these time writers and put them in one of Jigsaws games and if they don't do it in the times given, well you your imagination. ;)

[@jameslittle7482]

Flat rate isn't dead for customer pay. As far as warranty its a joke. Gm 8 hours to pull rebuild and put trans back. All data 20 hours. And being a transmission tech in a dealership there is no way gm should be getting away with is.

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Yeah now that circumstance is a crock of 💩

[@BillBlast7372]

*I MUST ADMIT, I WAS ABLE TO WORK MY WAY OUT OF BEING A TECH & GETTING INTO BUSINESS MGMT, THEN TO A BUSINESS OWNER(ALL WAS AUTOMOTIVE RELATED) BC I DIDN'T WANT TO BE 60y/o & TRYING TO MAKE FLATRATE.....I BRING THIS UP BC YOU SHOULD BE A SERVICE MGR OR A SHOP OWNER....YOUR EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE(OUTSIDE OF BEING A TECH), DRIVEN, A PROUD TECHNICIAN & YOU CARE......YOU REMIND ME OF MYSELF(I WAS A HIGHLY CERTIFIED JEEP, DODGE, CHRYSLER TECH & WORKED IN SMALLER DEALERSHIPS 4-6 TECHS), BUT NOW ON DISABILITY AFTER A HORRIFIC INJURY. I DID SUB YOU & GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE LOOKING OUT FOR THE PROUD, CERTIFIED, HARD WORKING AUTO TECHS OUT THERE!!!!*

[@autotechmike]

My flat rate pay goes from Friday to Thursday it helps to start a Monday knowing you have some hours built up

[@elijoematingo2369]

30/70 split for big goners. 40/60 split for certify ones. 50/50 split between shop and independent technicians. Take it or leave it Nextttttt

[@Bmwdiagnostics92]

in Norway we have 5 weeks vacation ;) we dont have flat rate.

[@MostGenericUser]

Yup they don't use flat rate in a lot of the rest of the world and it works just fine but the brainwashed capitalists in America are too greedy and want slaves not employees.

[@chemicalspore]

Everytime I hear flat rate, I think of postal shipping lol.

[@RustbeltMechanic]

🤣

[@moneyman89065]

Move to different dealers then. I’m flat rate dealer doing great. 50+ hrs/flag a week. Not even trying. Hit 70+ plenty of times. Quit crying and move to another job. Either you hustle or complain. Keep it moving everyone this might not be your industry.

[@damonjones9571]

70 hours and up a week is only done by severely cutting corners, getting fed gravy constantly, or screwing customers over by overcharging on labor times. ... i do a fair mix of warranty and cp work at a cdjr dealer, work about 50 to 60 hours a week and average about 50 to 60 flag. Unless ur at a dealer that pays really good for warranty, or just don't have to do any real work, 70 and up just doesn't happen.

[@moneyman89065]

Damon Jones obviously not always going to be consistent. I never said all the time. Only some weeks. work hard play hard. Stay past your 8hr shift. Just got to be dedicated if you really want to chase the money.

[@jamesdipsticktaylor1618]

I work flat rate and it pays I’m at roughly 45 hours a week and I range from 50-60hours weekly. It keeps you busy and keeps the shop making money

[@jaythomas827]

We have a guarantee of 6hrs avg/pay period which is nice but still adds some stress. I’ve worked my butt off during the day and working nights some weeks to bring up my avg, then the next week being crap and dumping my avg back down below 6, mean while the guy beside me leaves early and dogs it all day and in the end we both get topped up to 6 hrs.

[@fuddogable]

You guys only get 2 week! I work in the uk and get 7 weeks which goes up to 8 after 4 years service with my employer

[@eddpearson]

UK also, 28 days, and Christmas etc are in those days.

[@robertdunn7717]

Damn so on top of 5o percent taxes they stop yall from working to... that's unfair I currently have 3 weeks vacation have to be with the company for 10 years to get 4

[@fuddogable]

@@robertdunn7717 The US and Canada seem to be rotten for holidays. Technically 6 days of my 7 weeks are public holidays. Do yous get public holidays?

[@CarsonRH]

IWR 90 it really depends at my work place I get no holidays

[@jackwideman5316]

I think book times need to change from the new cars to older cars where you make more hrs for older cars than new ones nuts and bolts brake and parts dont just come apart like newer cars do

[@Justin_Bic]

I'm a flat rate auto tech. We are also required to write all of the estimates and find all of the parts. There is a 28% increase on book time to compensate for this. UNLESS it's a "canned job" ex. Brakes, 1hr , 4 tires 1 hrs, align 1hr oil change .4, rotate .3, flushes .6, and so on. It's impossible to make 40 hours doing any general service work.

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

Starting at about @9:00 minutes in about the technician shortage ... I can completely agree with that statement. It's the exact same situation in my part of town. As a service manager, journeyman level 3 Chrysler techs are are worth their weight in gold to us and we pay them well.

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

I'm not surprised by the results; its pretty much the same overall vibe up here in British Columbia, Canada. Although that being said, some of my techs love flat rate and would probably leave if we axed it.

[@jasonn2284]

Your Average Canadian bullshit.

[@craigb3671]

1st our dealership is 4 weeks after 10 years, 3 weeks after 5 years. 2nd I see it all the time "all I do is warranty work", then we run the numbers and they see they are at 35-40% warranty hours. There are no shops running at 75% warranty vs customer pay 3rd couldn't we just join a union for better pay/working conditions?

[@jasonn2284]

Lake Ann Craig go union. I’m making $48 an hr at kenworth straight time.

[@Austinsairplanes]

You should discuss the topic of non reusable hardware. I worked for a Ford Dealer for a few years so I can't speak for other manufacturers. One of the biggest problems I had was with non reusable hardware, You could spend 30-45 minutes reading workshop manual, writing down all the parts you need then trying to get "parts" to find the non reusable hardware was another time consuming task that of course I don't get paid for and so far Ford refuses to list the non reusable hardware required for all their procedures. I have had times where I found a big short cut time on a major job but... I couldn't do the short cut because the procedure required replacing hardware that could only be replaced by not taking the shortcut. Your punished for being efficient, if you tell Ford about the short cut your time gets cut anyway. The system is broken. Flat rate is nothing more than a method of putting all the inefficiencies that the manufacturer and the dealer should solve and makes the technician eat it. I finally found an hourly Union job with benefits, I will never work for another dealership or independent shop ever again.

[@debolt4796]

The flat rate will never die. Dealership owners and car companies are saving a boatload of cash screwing mechanics why would they give it up. No medical, no 401k, no guaranty, the pecking order in dealerships. That why more mechanic getting out than coming into this field of work. P. S When your name came up in the training center the Chrysler rep said let see how much longer he is employed with us.

[@spiropapa5747]

By paying hourly you will get better techs and better work out the door equals more return customers. Flat rate will die as dealerships are closing down. Hourly pay forces management to only keep as many techs as work they have. If they do t have work the dealer looses out not the mechanic. Remember the techs don’t own the dealership and don’t get profit sharing. Instead of keeping horrible tech and keeping them they have to pay more hourly and keep the good ones. They used the flat rate system to profit the dealership for the longest time. Now the dealership and management will pay the price aka dealer closing down and cars being sold online already happening. You will see in the next 5 years lots of dealers will be closing down

[@moneyman89065]

Spiro Papa they aren’t going anywhere buddy. Too many dummies who can’t even fill their washer fluid 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JasonBlair]

I'd be curious to see some more depth on the no-flat-rate vs bad-benefits question. I wonder if the ones who don't care about benefits tend to be younger and without families. Once you have a family, it makes sense for the opinion on benefits to change ... a lot.

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Very true

[@jasonn2284]

Super true.

[@Adam-kk7nw]

​@@RustbeltMechaniccongress need make flat rate illegal

[@blkthunderbolt]

We’re you referencing dealerships or all shops? I personally don’t like flat rate anymore. I noticed here in the Chicago area we got commissions or base pay which ever was greater. I liked that system because if it was slow I something to fall back on that week. Then when I moved to Arizona I worked flat rate for the first time and it sucked. A few shops I worked at paid hourly and that worked out better for me.

[@BillBlast7372]

*Flat rate sucks & I have always done extremely well in my Chrysler/Jeep dealerships, but it really fucking pisses me off when the worthless mechanics are feed gravy work bc they are buddies w/the service advisors & mgr, they complain they aren't making 40hr wks.....they can't fix a ham sandwich & the knowledgable highly certified tech gets stuck w/all the in-depth electrical troubleshooting, engines, trans, etc.*

[@1970chevelle396]

Back when I worked a regular job as a mechanic I got 2 weeks of vacation time that was paid. But normally I would take 2 months a year off, so 6 weeks of that I didn't get paid for.

[@earlturner5051]

Techs should be earning at least 50 bucks an hour.

[@jasonn2284]

earl turner their are places that pay $50.

[@earlturner5051]

Sorry i meant to type 250 an hour, like a lawyer charges

[@billmassey8585]

I was a full time auto tech. my advice? work in the industry for 4 to 5 years. quit and become a welder. mechanics get screwed.

[@jasonn2284]

bill massey makes no sense.

[@billmassey8585]

@@jasonn2284 I worked in the automotive field for almost 20 years. I went to welding school five years ago and could not be happier. My point was to learn to work on vehicles for your own benefit then find another trade. Think about it. What other field has techs who make 50k a year own 100k in tools? It's crazy.

[@jasonn2284]

bill massey so you are saying you couldn’t be any happier changing careers. So you are happy now. I see your point learn to work on your own car and or for a hobby. The same can be said why so many automotive technicians quit to become plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and welders. Spend $1000 on tools to start and you’re good to go. As a mechanic it’s $30,000+.

[@ronjohnson8119]

I think we need to stop calling them labor hours and start calling and thinking of them as labor “units” i.e. the time it takes to perform the job properly plus difficulty/how technical the operation is. What do you guys think?

[@RustbeltMechanic]

And also based on what tools you have to own to do the job. Since we have to buy all our tools to work and all

[@McBake]

I give this video 5 Attaboys.

[@stormyyoung6344]

I work flat rate at a body shop just imagine a insurance company trying to save money telling you what your geting paid and after the audit if that thank you charged to much they make the shop right them a cheak and then some may come out of your pay if it's over hours

[@jasonn2284]

Stormy Young ok, that’s bullshit. Nobody can take money out of your pay that’s just illegal.

[@forestfuckery854]

@@jasonn2284 tech can get charge backs. Take it from the hours you made. Yea dealers do that.

[@wompig]

Been around paint fumes too long

[@Quickwrench75]

Been a tech for 25 years Flat rate is no issue to me I know dealer techs have issues with it which is very understandable ! Flat rate techs should not get get punished because your expected to know the car better than I But if I had to leave flat rate I would require much higher hour wage or salary Is this shop that goes hourly going too buy our tools?

[@coreyscarrepairs]

My company calculates your PTO in such a way that you earn it biweekly and its based on your productivity. Base PTO is 2 weeks for me but I usually end up getting around 4 weeks by keeping my productivity up.

[@coreyscarrepairs]

Oh, also many days from "floating holidays" I calculated that into my 4 weeks as well.

[@semkim9209]

Working flat rate is a logistical head ache!

[@JohnBotero-e1o]

The solution is this: mechanics unions, not the ones "owned" and paid for by the stealerships, but truly independent unions. Strong unions which demand fair hourly pay, with decent liveable wages and benefits. Otherwise, this industry will die, in fact, it is dying, its a dying breed.

[@smitty2jones]

Gotcha beat here! Our family insurance plan is $382.50 a week, $1,530 per month. That means lot porters would literally be working less than the cost of insurance. When I started here in 2011, it was $377 per month. Absolutely everyone in this industry should be in support of Medicare for all.

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Yeah that is sad

[@CortezAutoServiceMobile]

I’m currently trying the guarantee with bonus for efficiency and minimum hours met with my techs just started this week hope it works great for all if us here.

[@newtec-kd6vy]

Hey, what’s your thought on remanufactured drive shafts from Cardone or spend the money on a new one? 300 vs 800.

[@dafirnz]

Both places I worked 100% flat rate at were a joke. You would hit 100% maybe 4 days a month. The place that eventually lead to me walking away from the industry was staffed to cover those 2 busy days a month and the rest of the time everyone spent the afternoons picking their nose waiting for work.

[@ManuelFlores-uq3bh]

I get 3 weeks a free call ins

[@scottsmrcka2769]

Leaving the system “as is” for the departing generation isn’t the right answer either. I see your point on them being used to, etc. But to attract the new generation that is eluding everyone, changes have to be made. Just my 2 cents.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

We pay our guys a 7 hour guarantee plus flat rate but not a lot techs actually need the guarantee despite the 40% to 50% warranty we do. Most of my techs will make 90% or higher productivity because we are constantly swamped every single day with appointments plus used cars and PDIS. Do any of you guys get guaranteed hours plus flat rate??

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Mine do not. Our shop is very old fashioned unfortunately... 100% flat rate, no guarantees, no bonuses

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

@@RustbeltMechanic Wow really? That's shitty bro. Our company also pays 3 weeks vacation after 5 years and 5 weeks after 10 years. I think my perspective might be biased compared to some managers since I actually worked in the shop before leaving the bench.

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Your Average Canadian yep only after two years continuous full time do we get two weeks, and we’re maxed out

[@gregblau8082]

One thing I’ve never heard mentioned is the guys that are on the decline and can’t bang out work like they used to. Moving them to an hourly system will keep them from retiring and I would bet that is a factor for many owners. All pay systems have their faults but I personally like being on a hybrid system and think that is the future.

[@williampotatoe3820]

I'm just about to get started at Hyundai dealership and I told them that i was skeptick on flat rate pay with warranty work and bc of the times being cut. To my surprise they said that they are open to hourly or a hybrid pay system. I'm trying to get myself informed about other systems out there so I'm not getting raped. I don't know anyone else in the field. Any advice?

[@gregblau8082]

@@williampotatoe3820 a friend of mine does very well at Hyundai. I think his guarantee is 30 hours and he gets a cut of what his apprentice turns. He was a honda/acura master tech for years and said this is the best place he's worked

[@williampotatoe3820]

@@gregblau8082 thanks for the quick reply, i figured getting any feed back from anyone would be a long shot since this video is so old. Is that in the states? I have no problem busting my ass doing flat rate. No reason anyone can't do well with customer pay. What is off putting for me is warranty work times continually being cut by the manufacturers. I was thinking about asking for 6hrs guaranteed that seems resonable to me

[@gregblau8082]

Yes in the us. And 6 is probably fair to ask but chances are they go by the week, not the day since a lot of jobs carry over. I've moved to management now but as a tech I was salary then got paid any hours over 30 and my rate went up at 40. It was a little confusing but basically it was like being flat rate and guaranteed 30 at the higher rate. A benefit of being at a dealership is they provide some of the specialty tools and you don't have to buy stuff for other brands

[@isaakd881]

Before I was ASE master tech I made $27 an hour. Now I make $36 an hour flat rate. I made 200-300 more a week at $27. Flat rate it garbage.

[@TheReadBaron91]

I get a performance reviews once a year, I wish it was more. I want to know what I’m doing well and what I need to work on from my bosses view more often.

[@daveyio87]

I agree with you on the fact it can't die. However I think what could improve it is better dispatching NO Favoritism. GOOD with BAD jobs. I do a ton of warranty bs jobs while other techs same skill levels and training only get customer pay jobs. Because they bitch and complain until they get their way. It should be a choice. For me when i make hours i'm not stress and my crohn's stays under control. When i'm stressed because i'm not making hours it flares up bad. Someone like me if i was salary, id have the same performance as being flat rate... Most of the time you break even, good week, bad. My best year was the year i was really sick and pretty much dying and missed 9 weeks of work with out pay. every other year i have fallen 12-18k short of that. Health care is outrageous, and no sick time, and only 2 weeks vacation is a joke. I feel like we are treated like slaves. not to mention when you have to work Saturdays... Maybe thats another topic video if you have to work a Saturday or a late night should you get another day off, leave early? vs working extra hours. we don't get time and a half...

[@smitty2jones]

At our dealership, they have tech teams. This team of 3 or 4 pool their hours and divide it. It prevents favoritism, it limits how much recalls and warranty affect you, and it means techs are more willing to help each other out. The only thing that's weird is that it's not an even distribution of hours, it's not 25% x 4, but the more experienced get a higher percent. I think it should just be a difference in hourly rate, and then divide it evenly. Alleviates a lot of dealership-type problems, but not all of them.

[@ronjohnson8119]

I am currently in talks with a product developer for a major automotive service information website about having some way for techs to be able to leave feedback on posted labor times- i.e. is the time fair, if not,what do you think would be a fair time, etc. They have asked me for my input on how I would “envision” this and I need input from you guys. Please leave any ideas and I will pass them on. Get the word out and ask your tech friends for ideas. Now is your chance to hopefully make a big impact and have a say in what you get paid.

[@Justin-cg2nq]

that should be easy, leave a link next to the labor time asking to leave feedback on the time. The link can then lead to a form for the job and ask some questions. Ask what it took them to complete the job, ask what a fair time would be, etc. Maybe take all of the times that it took them and take and average and make that the labor time!

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Feel free to leave a link to this

[@ronjohnson8119]

Justin Minney thank you for your input but the problem I have with that is that the labor “hours” should be based on actual time plus difficulty of the job. I think we need to stop calling them labor “hours” and think of it more like labor “units”, if that makes sense. If I only got paid what it takes to do the job I would not make any money and I would have little motivation to work quicker and more efficiently. I am not sure if you are a technician or not but I think you get my point.

[@Justin-cg2nq]

@@ronjohnson8119 I agree with your statement! You are correct, I am a technician, and we spend lots of money on tools and go to training to learn how to do things faster. There should be a bit of meat left on the bone for us when the time is figured. You have to also remember that we have to deal with parts, getting an estimate together, etc. Not a big deal on a simple job, but time consuming on larger jobs!

[@choppedandscrewedcustoms]

I work at a freight company here in southwest Ohio and we can't get help either our vacation time increases every 5 years I've been at this company for 11 years and only in the mechanic shop for 18 months and I get just over 4 weeks vacation and work on an hourly rate and only get reviews every quarter and a bonus every quarter

[@williampotatoe3820]

I'm in Cincinnati looking for work. What is the name of your shop?

[@choppedandscrewedcustoms]

@@williampotatoe3820 XPO Logistics they you apply online

[@nitrous07me]

At my Chevrolet dealership we get a week

[@evanm9026]

There’s plenty of jobs out there w great benefits and perks. But you gotta earn it. They don’t just hand them out

[@adilbata3965]

dude! sell your box and trade it for a house!

[@michaeldowner276]

many many conflicting arguments here.. does your employer understand the caliber of work being done? (mostly in field work application) also is the customer willing to pay? most of that comes down to if the service manager can properly be able to speak to customers, and either explain the situation or tell the customer to take a walk because everyone nowadays wants everything for nothing. techs seem to get alot of flack for only doing what they are told.

[@tommater2724]

Family insurance $65.00 a month here

[@equilibriumfilesprostnimelo]

bro 200 weekly for health insurance is insane. Dont get that just buy insurance from government, sometimes they can help you, I pay 220 a month for me n my mwife.

[@Quickwrench75]

You have what a 30K box. Would ya have bought such working hourly for say 25-30 an Hour not even bringing up cost of tools ? Flat rate is good for those those who are good Which you seem to be. I know finding new workers/techs is hard Deal with same in my area Solod hourly wage is answer for them until real for flat rate We can teach them more than they will ever learn in a classroom. But will agree flat rate only good for the experienced with a lot of tools and all thosem tools are not awlways in our big boxes Many are just knowledge we just have from years of experience

[@RustbeltMechanic]

Very solid points👍🏻

[@zokushatech]

My shop is hourly, and i hate how i put way more effort in than my coworker with a similar skill level and we end up with the same paycheck. He does mainly r&r has comebacks often and is usually seen standing around, while im doing A level electrical diag on the daily, and sweeping the floors, taking the trash out when the work slows down. Thats enough to piss a guy off

[@billmassey8585]

if your doing a level electrical diag, quit and find another shop. lots of shops out there would love to have you.

[@712gln]

i make over a hundred grand as a flat rate ford tech if i got paid 40 hr it would be 77k a year

[@MostGenericUser]

I think flat rate is dying and the tech shortage is eventually going to get so bad they're going to be forced to just promise better pay upfront. If you think about it you have to invest so much to really become a good mechanic and be able to make really good money compared to other trades where in less time with way less invested you can make way more money a lot easier. Cars are getting way to complex for this system to last and we're needing to buy way too many new specialty tools. If you make your shop a good place to work youll get good techs that dont need flat rate to motivate them to be productive. Just for reference I work on euro cars and we get the headache cars no one wants to work on. Try working flat rate system in that environment and you'll hate it.

[@JohnLazzaro-p2u]

Just leave the auto repair business or do not get into .. it’s not profitable .. it’s the worst possible way to make a good living .. and if your a good tech .. it’s even worse . For 39 years that I’ve been in this business fixing cars they been saying flat rate is going away . Bullshit .. the reason tech leave the business is because it’s no longer profitable techs are needed in government jobs, town jobs railroad jobs it’s endless .. why would you spend your time your tools your back .. for a job that pays .8 tenths of an hour and it takes you 1.5 .. for various reasons who loses ? You do .. tell your story walking. No heat no a/c no respect for your skill .. no respect for you

[@robertdunn7717]

Nah f that if they dont like my work they can tell me I'll go get another job I just set my own standards and I set my own high by doing that with busting my ass I'm giving them all I got if they dont like it I guess that's the only option

[@Chasemoney64]

250 a WEEK! ? man come move to canada. at my job you get 2 weeks after one full year of employment and 3 weeks after 5 years

[@derekthompson8706]

maybe I'm wrong but it kind of seems like you were maybe talking badly about the guys that you have working for you and your shop hopefully they don't watch these videos maybe I'm wrong and I just took it the wrong way

[@jasonn2284]

With all the bullshit warranty times and technical electronics, flat rate is bullshit.

[@michaelsieber6601]

Why get ride of flat rate I saw you on Facebook bragging about flagging hours

[@RustbeltMechanic]

My situation is not often the industry standard, I’m speaking for my subscribers who filled out the surveys and are suffering from it.

[@michaelsieber6601]

Rustbelt Mechanic yea if you suck you won’t get paid stop crying and find a new job it’s not very hard lol

[@jesusramonvargasrivera6824]

Michael Sieber or if you only get 4 cars at your shop that day lol slow days and winter hurt

[@michaelsieber6601]

Jesús Ramón Vargas Rivera you have to flag the hours when the work is there

[@jesusramonvargasrivera6824]

Michael Sieber no shit stupid but if you get 4 oil changes in one day and that’s it you still didn’t make time

[@stevenjones1824]

I think that your not able to just skate by working hourly, my whole career if they are paying you for every minute you better be working every minute and I've never seen an employer afraid to tell you to load your iron at these places because these are places and jobs that are seeked at least where I live.

[@magogomez7664]

Bro I dont even know why you would want a vacation!why? Would you work for someone or a company when you can work for yourself?...I love to fix cars and serving my awesome clients.

[@nomercyinc6783]

salary doesnt work for mechanics . id rather be flat rate than dumb ass hourly rate

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

Performance reviews? You must be kidding! around here they don't do performance reviews that I know of, you do the job or you get fired. Period. Almost seems like you live in a different part of the world. People around here don't like to work, don't like to have jobs, and those that do either do their job or get fired. And this goes for more than just automotive. They say unemployment is 11% but that's only based on the 11% who are actually looking for a job. Around here everybody shacks up with a baby mama. There is so much of a separation between lower class and upper class. Middle-class almost doesn't exist. This is the biggest reason that I want to be an independent. And as far as income, I only make about $100 a week more than you pay for your family insurance. There is no way I could survive paying that. But then again I have no dependents.