Flatpick Nation | Yamaha LL16D VS Yamaha LL16D | Elixir Strings and D'addarrio XS Strings

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[@flatpick51]

I wouldn’t mind either one sitting in my lap. I’ve got an FG180 from the early ‘70’s I’ve had for close to 50 years. At times it sounds like the vintage D18 I’ve always wanted. Love me some Yamahas. Thanks for doing what you do Patrik. And “Roll Tide”!

[@646627jd]

Those Yamaha LL16s are AMAZING GUITAR'S for the Money. You can't go wrong with one of those. And as Strings Go. The XS STRINGS ARE Definitely the Way to Go.

[@gilsondigue29]

I made the stupid mistake to spend $1,100 on Taylor 214 with laminate rosewood that sounded like trash! So metallic! But I learned from that mistake and then bought my Yamaha LL16 with solid rosewood and treated spruce top for $899 + taxes after watching this video last year.

[@Tbone1952]

As an owner of several Yamahas, 1980’s DW-5s, 1972 FG300 I bought while in the Navy in Japan, a 1969 FG-180 in the shop having a neck reset and new bridge made (love this one), an FS5 I’ve had for 2 years (play this one the most). I also have a 1986 Alvarez Yairi (stunning lots of bling, tobacco sunburst). I just bought Recording King RD-328. I was seriously thinking about the LL16D but it’s just too big. Still may someday but I’m 70 years old and I’m not playing as much as I used to. Thanks for your videos watch you and JP’S videos all the time. Peace!

[@jeffreycohen3451]

It's remarkable how consistent the two guitars are. They are virtually interchangeable.

[@JosephusDalrymple]

Good video. I love those Yamahas, especially the one with the Martin style pickguard. Would also love a quick lesson on the little diddy you played to demo them. Beautiful music. Thank you, Patrick.

[@turrafirmaguitarchannel]

I just got one of these without the abalone binding. Very excited.

[@user-be8tv8dc7p]

bought this guitar and all i can say freakin amazing. amazing sound plays really easy and just looks gorgeous.

[@abates226]

I have a ‘beater’ FD-02 I got for $100US. Needed strings and pins. Sounds like a million bucks. Just sings. And this is a well-played solid top but laminate everything else guitar. I’m giving it to my nephew because it’s so easy to play! I need one of those ll16s.

[@Steve-si8hx]

Very nice guitars. I tried one out at the shop but could not afford it unfortunately.

[@draganloncarevic6202]

I got one of this three years ago,and you know what I did? I put on Waverly tuners and my luthier scaloped the bracing. Now it sounds much,much better. It sounds like 2000-3000$ guitar.

[@zitfril]

May I ask, how much did you spend in the scalloping job?

[@danielhartman5086]

Beautiful sounding Yamaha guitars. And nice playing my friend.

[@quigley4440]

Change out the plastic pins and stock saddle. Graph Tech Tusq pins which require a bit of sanding to fit, and the Tusq compensated saddle (fits Martin) model PQ 9110 - drops right in - no mods unless you want to lower the action a bit. Left mine alone and the increased break angle at the saddle brings out the harmonics in an incredible way. For a few dollars - install these changes and you will not recognize the same guitar. It changes EVERYTHING for the better. It becomes a completely different instrument. If you think you have good ring and sustain now - no contest after the changes. Change the nut to Tusq and this LL16 will sound as close to the LL26 from Japan for about 2 thousand $ less.

[@anthonypetrullo2425]

I purchased the Yamaha LL16d recently and replaced the Urea nut and saddle with bone nut and saddle. Also, replaced the plastic bridge pens with Taylor, Ebony pins. It sounds amazing. If you want to replicate the sound of the Yamaha LL26 I would suggest using bone, nut and saddle rather than tusq because that's what the LL26 uses.

[@quigley4440]

@@anthonypetrullo2425 Using bone might bring a different sound and would make an interesting comparison. So far I have no issue with the tusq. My Takamine 740 FS is a top of the line acoustic made in Japan. It came with ebony presentation pins. I decided to try the tusq pins for comparison. Short answer - tusq stays - ebony is out. Why -- harmonics and subtleties of tones that were previously very quiet became noticeable. More sustain and projected volume. Could not believe the difference and suggest you try the tusq for comparison. I'm sure you will be amazed.

[@anthonypetrullo2425]

I've read how there is a difference in the sound between Tusq and bone. i'm not saying the bone is a better sound. I'm saying that if you want the sound of the Yamaha LL 26 going with the bone would be a better choice because that's what they use in that guitar. As far as the bridge pins go, I haven't heard anyone else saying that they make that much of a difference to the sound as much as changing the saddle and the nut, however, next time I change the strings, I might try the tusq to see how it sounds.

[@quigley4440]

@@anthonypetrullo2425 Understood about the difference. I may try a bone saddle and compare to the tusq sound. As far as pins go, this was the first thing I replaced on my LL16. It changed the sound dramatically over the plastic pins, so much change that I would not recognize the sound of my guitar if someone was playing it in another room. The tusq saddle added another level of harmonics. Waiting delivery of the tusq nut so that all those areas are sonically balanced. Tusq or bone - either way the improvement is dramatic considering the cost.

[@anthonypetrullo2425]

As far as the bridge pins go, whether it's Ebony or tusq it's definitely an improvement over plastic

[@susanroycroft89]

I to was amazed with an L series Yamaha. I already own an FG 830 and a Martin and a Recording King dreadnought, my L series Yamaha is Jumbo cutaway 😊😊😊

[@jeffreycohen3451]

Yamaha calls their plastic nut/saddle material "Urea." Urea is basically bovine urine that is used in the manufacture of polyvinyl acetate-based adhesives (white glue) and other plastic materials..

[@Flatpicknation]

Yeah man thats the word! These guitars are just so good.

[@neilanderson2374]

I put ej16s on mine, sounds awesome

[@12babyapes59]

I got mine this last sunday, at a small guitar store, dealer told me these are hard to come by, it has Elixers, sounds beautiful.

[@cugir321]

Until you plug it in when you're playing out.

[@lhvent]

I got a used LL6M ARE last month, and it is such a great guitar.

[@Tbone1952]

WOW Patrick your right that is one grungy fret board …….. YUK!

[@atakurt6055]

whats the song at 2:04? so beautiful

[@bostonbesteats364]

I love my LL16M (mahogany)

[@chiefkikyerass7188]

I own this guitar..I retired my gibson.taylor..martin..this thing is amazing

[@Steve-si8hx]

Can you send me your martin then 😬

[@paulkline3011]

@@Steve-si8hx 🤣

[@Steve-si8hx]

​@@paulkline3011 😂 my d18 was stolen last year and I cannot afford, another one and that guys just retiring his 🤣

[@12babyapes59]

@@Steve-si8hx Simon ,thats what he stated ese.

[@Steve-si8hx]

​@@12babyapes59 yeah I guess he just wants it for looks now as he has not messaged me

[@lhvent]

Amazing guitars. I own a Yamaha FG830 that is awesome.

[@jamesperdue2296]

How Much better is the ll16 Yamaha versus the ll6 Yamaha I have the ll6 and just wanted to know if it's worth the price difference thanks any information would be greatly appreciated also keep up the good playing

[@Flatpicknation]

Hard one… LL6 is killer. I would rather go to the LL26. New ball game.

[@jamesperdue2296]

One more question is bluegrass and flat picking a normal popular thing in your country

[@Flatpicknation]

Not very,we are a group of people ofc. But nothing like US.

[@6speedsti241]

AWESOME MY FRIEND

[@miktempleSax]

Both sets medium gauge?

[@TheDavidlimbu]

These yamaha are top

[@joibjalla]

I want 1 to keep my FG5 and FS5 company.

[@mason-33]

Vad tycker du om LL-TA modellen?

[@backyardblacksmith3090]

What is this genre of music that you are playing

[@Flatpicknation]

Bluegrass flatpicking music! Its fun,try it.

[@55Cibby]

I think the old strings sound good.

[@anthonywhite6530]

I have mine

[@justinthyme2666]

If anyone in Nashville wants the mahogany version, give me a shout. I've got one for sale. Good pickin my friend

[@yelgerramirez]

Ey! why do you have two? give me one lol amazing guitars I give you my GODIN and you give me the Yamaha hahaha Joke

[@harrybeck2791]

Elixirs have forever chemicals thrown in the mix. No thank you.

[@MONDOCHITARRA]

Hi bro, greetings from Italy i subscribe your channel, i wanna buy this guitar from many time and right now i definetively decide, thx for help me! ;)