Flats Reacts To "What Online Multiplayer Is Like For Someone Who Doesn't Play Games"

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[@theknghtofni3912]

21:12 my very first game of League against real people, I did poorly so my team reported me for feeding and I got temporarily banned from matchmaking lol that was also my last game of League

[@phinox6518]

Thats pretty tame lol, for me I got called the nword the whole match till I stopped playing

[@User-kq3od]

Honestly they did you a favour, if they were nice to you and didnt get you temp banned you mightve been stuck playing league for years. But yeah its sad how toxic gaming can be. I think almost all of us have been guilty of it before, Id feel so fkn bad if I found out I was shitting on a brand new player.

[@Mystoraa]

that seems strange, you didnt buy a lvl 30 account and just hop into ranked by any chance right?

[@phinox6518]

@ not even I just hopped on played my first game on a new account and got called the word off rip it was wild

[@brigtvik5745]

Not LOL, but another MOBA, I had mostly the same experience. Getting matched with only bots from the start, I dominated for some 10-15 matches, then in my first match actually meeting humans who knew what they were doing, I lost badly, and got reported by some incredibly abusive person who was offended by my lack of skill. The game told me it decided I had fed on purpose, because my performance was much lower than normal. Well, of course it was worse than I was doing against the useless bots. Never looked at the game again.

[@ChaosContrl]

I can't remember which game did this, but there was a mechanic where new players would be grouped with new players exclusively for the first 10 levels or something. After that, you can no longer enter that section of the game ever again. Even if it means there might be somewhat slightly longer queue times, at least you know that you are fighting people who just started playing the game, no exception. Of course there could be smurfs, but it could be much easier to filter out that way.

[@yoodaddy28]

Paladins maybe? I’m fairly certain HiRez had something like that and in addition the first few levels were strictly against bots

[@Eden_Deez]

Used to play siege and they did something like that, you could join that game mode as long as you were below level 50 I think. I'm not sure if they still do it but I just remember that it did get flooded with bots, but tbh that's probably also because of Siege specifically lmao.

[@DragonRider6566]

@@yoodaddy28I know NARAKA: BLADEPOINT has your first 3 games or so he only against bots, and bots are pretty damn good in naraka

[@headhunter179]

I think Call of Duty had a gamemode like that, i think it was in World at War and Black Ops 2

[@krimsoncrusader198]

deadlock has that atm, first few games until you get 10 wins are only with newer players

[@legacian4039]

Hand-eye coordination, reflexes, and memorization of the controls. These things are crucial to any online multiplayer game. As a veteran gamer, ask yourself, what’s the first thing you do in any game? You spend about 5-10 minutes figuring out the controls and memorizing them. There’s also the understanding that in most online multiplayer games, multitasking is one of the biggest and most important mechanics you need to understand and practice. A lot of complex things are happening at once. In most games, you need to always be casting (ABC) and always be moving. If the online multiplayer game is PvP or competitive, this really becomes a trial by fire, as you’re testing your understanding, mechanics, and reflexes against everyone else in the lobby. In a MOBA like League of Legends, this means positioning, movement, map awareness, and strategy. In a first person shooter, this means how quick you are to the draw and how accurate you are with your aim. In both, are you able to juggle the movement controls and also aiming and casting abilities, all while staying alive. Sure, this all sounds obvious, but as anyone who plays online multiplayer games knows - when you’re in a match, your mind is constantly racing. Your fingers are always clicking/typing/etc. You are thinking not only about yourself, your cooldowns, your positioning, but also that of your allies and enemies. It may sound like an oxymoron to say you don’t have time to think, but then I would say the better you understand movement, controls, and mechanics, the less you have to think about them - the more you can invest that thought into strategizing and predicting your opponent.

[@szymonbazejowski2695]

That right there. Cant count the amount of times i was asked how good someone is on a certain character and they start explaining how the character works and not how they approach the play as said character, imo like you said the less you have to think about what you can do and the more you have time to think about how to do it is the measure of quote "how good are you".

[@bashvash]

Less think, more do. We use it at work when we train. Mad I can't like this more than once.

[@butterzzz13]

The OW tutorial should run the new player through scripted bot matches with dialogue from the heroes explaining what's going on. Make it a limited pool of heroes, and maybe expand it over time. Start with 2 tank, 2 dps, and 2 supps at first and have a full scripted match for each role attack and defend. Only really needs to be one map, but more would be nice.

[@PearsAreOk]

so pve? 😢

[@butterzzz13]

@ no.

[@josephreynolds2401]

Scenario tutorials work. SC2 had an editor map with only one way to win each scenario and featuring concepts like specific unit micro. It wouldn't be hard to make simple and intermediate scenarios for these sorta things.

[@TikkaQrow]

Honestly? Take the first PvE mission, or one of the 'archive' missions and retool it slightly. Music, action, story, all while teaching a player how to WASD, like RAW basics. 'This how you look up and down' Heck I'd love if they had that, like Halo's old tutorial. Be soldier, have Winston or w/e technician going 'We need to calibrate your Visor' or whatever, so you ult, and have to look at targets or lights. And than 'test' the visor to shoot all the targets. Good way to introduce a player to basic controls like 'looking around' AND show off how Ults works to players. Idk. Blizzard is a poor company, they can't afford to have 3+ team members spending a year on New user experiences.

[@butterzzz13]

@@TikkaQrow This would be a fantastic start ngl.

[@redfin6632]

When I first started playing games there were a few things that helped me to stay engaged the most. First, playing a friend who already plays was great to keep me having a good time, and to soften how badly I would do if I were alone. It works best if most team is made up of friends, so small team sizes helps. The second was watching videos from good players to see what the game looks like when it gets played right, showing me what to emulate. The last thing was having a space to try out mechanics of the game like a firing range. It let me get into gps games, and it opened the door for a lot of other games too.

[@butterzzz13]

The most based thing he said in the entire video. 19:50 "Due to her being solo queued and not knowledge able of conventional strategy. She assumed her teammates were doing nothing.... and hated them..." Sounds a lot like OW now.... Minus her actually admitting she knows she's also bad. Everyone swears up and down they study their vods, pay for coaching, do scrims, watch all the streamers educational vids lol. Everyone swears they know exactly how to play and what the strat is, and "just follow my callouts the second I yell them no matter what you're doing and we win!!! How much simpler can I make it!!! It's not me it's my teammates!!! I can't get out of Wood 2 because my teammates don't do anything!!! ELO HELL IS REAL!!!" Lolol!

[@DapperPaperBag]

"You don't pull a grenade to Hunt Deer." Flats hasn't seen me fishing in RDR2 xD

[@Vexilis]

The first step for genuinely new gamers are to introduce them to Doom 1993

[@Rohndogg1]

Nah, you gotta play pong with the dial lol

[@RohanKumar-ci9sl]

Okay but doom 1993 and pong are good games

[@aidanspurgeon]

@@RohanKumar-ci9sl exactly

[@Tzoppo11]

YES

[@ylva95]

The problem with matchmaking in games also factors in when you wanna play with others. I first got introduced to overwatch in 2019 by my boyfriend. It was my first ever FPS and I had no idea what I was doing. My boyfriend was ofc much more experienced and he put us in lobbies to play together. I was flamed non stop since we were matched up to people in HIS rank, and I had no way to help what so ever. I feel this even to this day as I introduce new friends to Overwatch. You'd expect the game to counterbalance and place a new player on the opposing team but it feels like the majority of the time is just doesnt? I'll have one of my friends at 3000 dmg and both enemies at 12k+. Balance will forever be a point that online games fail at imo.

[@eagleblaze02]

Yea, I mean this is a big reason smurfs exist. That being said, if you’re introducing someone to a game and you’re just dominating the lobbies, you’re still not helping them learn. You are only making the experience slightly more enjoyable due to the dopamine of winning. I don’t smurf too often, but if I do (and I only do to play with friends), I always try to focus on helping them understand the game and how they should be playing rather than fragging out on noobs.

[@Wraithguard92]

It's probably the case that Overwatch simply doesn't have a supply of new players to match you against. It's an aging game at this point, and that lack of hospitality to new players makes for a vicious feedback loop. The isolated player population gets collectovely better over the years and just assumes that every person that plays has all the standard game knowledge. Then, when i legitimately new player arrives, people assume that they're playing poorly on purpose because they're not used to seeing new players, hence all the flaming and reporting.

[@BlegBog]

that's intentional because of smurfs. and it's needed. if you want to play ranked with your worse friends, they need to be playing better.

[@Arjay404]

lmao her reaction to having to play more League is so perfect. Lady that's how we all feel and this is coming from someone that played the game for 10 years. Luckily I was able to drop it after being hooked for so long.

[@georgec5212]

League is fine as a game, I’m a 15 year super toxic guy, outside of riot being dumb about chat the game is better than ever

[@kingd1486]

League is a great game, dunno why the game is getting the blame for subhumans ruining experiences

[@GuidedByCompassion]

18:36 This. This was the reason my account on Overwatch have 1000+ more hours in Quickplay than Competitive. The idea of pissing off my team mates with underperformance scares me.

[@zanbarlee6190]

You just have to push through and ignore it. Everyone in bronze sucks at the game anyway, and the most important thing to remember is that literally everyone gets flamed in ranked, even the people who are *really* good at the game, no matter which rank they play in, because people are dumb. Just treat ranked like casual with better matchmaking. Play the game to have fun and to know you're getting matched with people of similar skill, and you either climb to where you're at or stay where you are. Everyone on your team, no matter what they say to you, are the same rank as you are, which means they're all just as shitty.

[@Smasherverse]

I definitely understand the, “avoiding games because I don’t wanna disappoint people.” I don’t play ranked on overwatch for this reason, and I don’t like playing open queue with my friends because the optimal pick is for me to play support as the rest of my friends are butter mechanically, but if I play role queue I can queue for all and feel like it just becomes luck of the draw

[@paige8453]

That’s the exact reason I don’t play multiplayer games at all. I’m not good at them and the fear of disappointing my teammates makes my stomach upset. I can’t stand it. I was so scared of fucking it and causing my team to lose. The only team multiplayer game I played was one called Arena on the phone. That was only for a week though

[@marqmars]

I used to be like that and sometimes still am a bit. After so many toxic teammates though my mindset flipped and now idc if I'm playing bad, it happens to everyone! If they get mad then good, they deserve that anger. Personally I can understand that sometimes you are just sick, tired, waking up, distracted, haven't played in a bit, or feel off... we are all human and make mistakes. It's best to mute chat sometimes.

[@kingd1486]

@@marqmars kinda just sounds like you decided to run it down ngl

[@xBriidgette]

My very first QP in OW2 (my first FPS game ever) I was yelled and slurred at for not knowing my full kit inside and out...didn't touch QP for months after that and only played AI until I felt comfortable enough to try again lmao

[@addazarmy6826]

I'm so sorry that was your experience :(

[@xBriidgette]

@ it’s okay!! this was back in January this year, I’ve made it to diamond at least so I think that’s good growth 😂

[@AnD1262]

I pretty much started playing PC shooters last month and I was flamed 2 days ago in OW2 on my 5th competitive placement match for not healing enough, it really makes you not want to play... mind you, I really shouldn't take a feeding doomfist in silver too seriously

[@xBriidgette]

@ yeah you learn after a while people never wanna admit their own faults. i just do what i can do the best i can do it and if they feed, they feed. support is an experience to say the least lol

[@AnD1262]

@@xBriidgette Yep not gonna say I did good that match by any standards, the reason it hurt so much was the scoreboard showed how well I was doing to some extent and it didn't look good. I get more love than hate on support so I best just disregard it as a bad game and move on. on the support experience, TBH I like the way it plays more than DPS and I haven't gotten used to any tank other than dva, but holy do I find it hit and miss and a miss game is always something else, it's also obvious that some people have never played support and expect you to be omnipresent but to be fair been rare so far

[@lucianlopez6537]

"Stay away from games to not piss anybody off" and here I'm playing junkrat and sombra all day lets goooo

[@iamcool544]

not piss off your team* pissing off the enemy is the end goal

[@zc8673]

I believe hero mastery is their attempt at a tutorial. It still doesn't really teach you how the hero works in a match, but it gives you a good place to familiarize yourself with a hero.

[@lknight1266]

An interesting idea for the smurf topic: Why don’t they enable an option to “report” someone as a smurf, but all it does is give that person a bigger boost in mmr if they get reported like that, therefore moving them quicker to the mmr range they should be

[@Snack-Sized-Femboy]

What if someone who isn't a smurf just has a really lucky match? What if someone who isn't a smurf is actually just getting better at the game, and climbing the ranks? That's what scores like elo and mmr are supposed to do. Move higher skilled people to higher ranks based on their stats and win ratio. You can't keep smurfing forever on the same account, because it will naturally gain rank. It requires constant new accounts. And reporting wouldn't solve that problem. I guess it would help to combat against smurfs who use the same account to smurf, and them de-rank themselves, but like i said, they just have to make another account.

[@BanHammerFiend]

​@Snack-Sized-Femboy I have a feeling it won't really matter Creating immediate rubber banding instead of over-time rubber banding, may launch people but give it 3-5 games and kick them somewhere below current spot and above where they originally were

[@Xygard]

This is just my take but if let's say your friends or someone you know what to tried play games with you but never touch any multi players game don't let them touch it, ask them play single player game with the same concept first for example fps games maybe play like CoD campaign or if it's moba games play rpg games to understand how skills works. Nowadays it's hard to finds game of any genre that actually be good for starters even it's single players like they never even care to give basic control tutorials because developers think the one playing their game must be know how to well guess what they not, I had a friends who want to play games with me but they don't know how to even tho he play the exact same genre but different mechanics and all confused him so yeah

[@drowzydullahan]

I'm someone who's been playing online games since I was a teen in high-school, back in he early 2000's, and even to this day, the thought that me having an off game, or just in general not being good at a game gives me such a metric fuck ton of anxiety, at the thought of fucking up someone's day, stresses me my weak ass out. I love PvP games, but good gods. No matter how much I try to relax, I just can't help but get stressed If I'm doing poorly. Sorry to any of y'all I might've matched with in various games in the past. lmfao

[@nightowlowo149]

" just can't help but get stressed If I'm doing poorly." same but what i did is swap to turn based, single plyer, or co-op games. less stress, more fun. Leave the gaming goblins at their smelly territory if theyre gonna be toxic to me or vice versa

[@frankiecedeno3724]

As someone who has played league for years I feel like the only way I would try to get someone to play and LEARN the game would be pure teamwork. In a perfect world I could get a full game of ten people into a call to play on a custom map and just answer questions the new player has for a while while playing the game a bit. I imagine the act of sufficiently preparing a total noob would be the work of 10+ hours. In LoL you would have to explain all 5 roles both individually AND THEN in team fights which can be two entirely different experiences. Also either separately or at the same time you would have to explain character archetypes like brawler, tank, APC, ADC, and healer/support which, admittedly, can boil down into are you going in or staying back. And finally you would have to actually explain characters themselves. TLDR: you’d have to explain game role, character archetype, and character and how those things work together in the game. That’s an overwhelming amount of information before you even get into item builds and strategy. So even if it was just me and another person I would probably just 2v2 bots in custom games for a while. Gosh, the woman who lives in his house probably struggled with just the controls of LoL.

[@majones117]

Competitive online games have become so unfun for me compared to when i was in high school playing Halo 3 and Gear of War. I just miss the simplicity of those games where i just used a gun and a grenade.

[@BanHammerFiend]

Preach it g Gimme a bare bones game, sprint, no slide, gun, utility

[@cgomez4801]

Those were the days, man. Canals and Gridlock will always be remembered and missed.

[@kingd1486]

? GoW and Halo comp was sweaty as hell too wtf is this comment section on lol

[@hush4063]

As someone who went through the college esport scene the amount of paid employees who knew absolutely nothing was insane

[@ChriSaito]

In terms of Fortnite for new players, I'm 90% certain they first throw you in matches with bots and maybe the occasional few players. When me and my friend got into it for a little bit the game was sooo easy and we won our first 5 games. When my little sister got on her Switch and won her first game as someone who has almost no online shooter experience it kind of confirmed that (though I'd never tell her that). I think the goal is to get you feeling really good to start off with so you stick with the game. Edit: NVM the video gets into that right after lol

[@jaltersimp9639]

Siege is one of the hardest games to get into. I been playing since Operation White noise (Doki and Vigil release), and I am still learning new things whenever I hop on. It has such a steep learning curve.

[@willanrac]

Also, really think new players should be playing against ai and with bots solo for a few games with voice lines to prompt them in their roll. Even make it scripted for the first game before doing ai so new players can see what the flow of the game is like. then slowly add players at their mmr level until they are high enough to populate both sides with actual players.

[@Kelso303]

NGL flats I'm really happy u made this channel I unfortunately had to unsubscribe from flats one and two bc of overwatch, I absolutely can't stand that game anymore I used to play it everyday but I just can't anymore I'm a natural born tank player always have been my whole thing is id rather protect my team than attack the enemy but with solo tanking I just can't the counter swapping just feels bad it's just not a fun way to play I was always proud of myself for learning/mastering a lot of heros but I didn't play ow for about a year before ow2 and going back in i really only wanted to play tank well that sucked lol i tried dps and while echo was funish it just didn't feel good I'm not a support player as I'm one of the few actually aware of how difficult it can be bc my preferred support is ana

[@xEvilRaptorx]

You should re-download til Christmas[ish] Ow1 is back!

[@ThisNate1022]

I’ve watched this vid (The one your reacting to) at least 3 times now maybe more and each time it brings back the same question. But after this watch I think I found the answer and the answer isn’t the problem with the games its the problem with his method of testing. Multiplayer games in general are usually played bc either one the person has been playing sp games for a long time and they want more of a “challenge” or two they want to play with friends who are already playing said game. i bring this up bc you brought up an interesting point .“ How often are people who’s really never played a game b4 in their lives really playing these games?” When going into a multiplayer game and even single player games like Elden ring or “Minecraft” (bc it can really be anything atp) there is an expectation of learning and or researching the game prior. With this vid (btw love this guy I watch every single one of his “experiments” ) I finally after your vid answered the question of what do you do (reason why I obsess about this question is bc I do indie game dev stuff). The answer sadly is not much more. If there is a basic tutorial explaining the main mechanics of the game eventually the player themselves will have to seek out ways on their own to get better. Meta changes constantly even things that Ruz said like there are basics that don’t change, explain one other than the very main mechanics. I’ve seen meta change so fast that I honestly stopped playing a game bc the meta was so backwards. ( The one in most recent memory is marvel rivals, don’t get me wrong I wasn’t gonna quit this one bc of the meta change / discovery but I really hate the 3 healer meta bc it feels like (just like in Cod) there is a handful of super useful / op characters and then everything else you have to either be a master or switch. Now don’t get me wrong Cod is way worse at this than MR bc Cod only has like 3 op guns and everything else gets left behind usually with MR at lease each role is necessary in some capacity. Actually I think this is now the only vid after watching your reaction I that ruz got wrong bc even tho its an “informal experiment “ the main thing is seeing how games are for non-gamers however MP games are the only games I don’t really see “non-gamers” play bc there is already a precedent of need to learn to be w/ everyone else.

[@facterrgaming449]

i think something that we also forget to take account for, we as gamers, have for the most part become incredibly numb to online verbal bashing, like if someone calls me 6 sequential slurs and says they hope horrific things happen to my mother, i dont even flinch, havent for a long time, i was toxic once upon a time, ive played everything from cs to val to apex to league (this is my main game) call of duty, and nobody can get to me, nobody ever really got to me, the only thing that would genuinely upset me even as a young teenager was them playing bad, this thick skin or whatever you wanna call it, is from years and years of online gaming, ive been playing online games since i was 10 years old, my response when someone said mean things, was to be meaner and throw it back (this resulted in ALOT of bans) nowadays im 23, nobody can get to me, i always gave myself the excuse that competitiveness was my reason to be toxic, and while that is partially true, i only ever flamed people in ranked modes when they were playing poorly, some self reflection led me to realize, it was just an excuse, there was no reason to say things like that, the problem is, that just pure unadulterated hatred, is bred into all these games, and most people cant handle it when they try it for the first time

[@karimohlman52]

If you want to watch someone new to both Overwatch and new to PC gaming, then check out Solitary Saturn. I think I remember him saying it had been several years since he had played any games until recently. He went through the tutorial and practice range, then fought bots. The choice for game modes is a lot more limited now for new players. It was interesting seeing what things I take for granted that he didn't know for a good while, like the low health indicators.

[@Sachrin]

Celeste is fucking awesome, short and sweet, not too hard, not too easy, no amputation necessary because you can’t get stumped :))

[@Evixyn]

I have played over watch original back on 2016 and I had fun with my college friends as we slowly climbed up the ranks into silver and gold, the matches where not enjoyable as the enemy teams where just better then us and my group of friends slowly stopped playing it. I played solo for a while and it was a heavily poisonous experience for me as Tracer / 76 main who also switched to Hog / Bastion / Rhyan. My friends who reached platinum who invited me to play was nightmarish as I was heavily above my skill level and I just stuck with Hog at the time I was heavily consistent with the Hook Shot melee combo instant ender. I just didn't have fun with the title due to it's poor balancing and poisonous chat behavior. At times the poisonous chat can be entertaining but after a awful from the job just becomes stressful.

[@KidMonkii]

9:48 What a coincidence that the controllers we’re used to (L stick move, R stick aim) are the basics on how to maneuver drones in a smooth way. On an unrelated note, Black Ops theater mode is back. Flying that camera in a cinematic way, making sure you’re aiming at your target is pretty challenging to teach people. Great for film and other stuff though. I’m loving life by the way.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

16:00 That basically just tells me that PVP games cannot attract new players unless they have a PVE mode which is based on lessons learned from the PVP players, and how they play, with the same rules the PVP players use. Its why Elden Ring and other Soulsbornes have a very fair mechanic for multiplayer invasions and duels, everyone obeys the same rules, everyone has the same potential items and otherwise, but its the rare occasion that someone has a twink build and they're just that good. That's extremely rare.

[@brentyboo9140]

I always thought a “tutor” system could be interesting where you could like volunteer to get queued up with beginners and guide them through the basics , and the newbies could like review the tutors. In return the tutor gets a reward for a good review, the newbie gets a reward for reviewing

[@LordAnt611]

This was in full blast with my friend Kev when his girlfriend bought him a P5 for Christmas. We used to play a ton before but his PS4 broke down right before Covid and he had no intention to fix it. We just started to play Marvel rivals and holy shit…… his game sense after basically 5 years is pretty much beginner level. He was not having fun while our team carried him to 7 wins in 12 games. Watching his highlights was hard as it reminded me of watching my GF trying to finish puzzles in “It Takes Two”. Not being comfortable with dual sticks and basic game depth perception was a challenge. Now add on people who are trying to kill you while knowing your abilities more than you do…. His K/D ratio was at best .4 in 12 games and worst at .1. I started getting mad at him because in our Black Op peak days mans had a 3.5 K/D ratio and could not understand how he was doing so horribly while playing Punisher. I had to take a step back halfway through our session and just let him play without me in his ear with suggestions on what to do

[@furionking7490]

Speaking as someone who used to play team sports, so much of team sports is not about winning. Its really about learning the fundamentals and working within the team. Proven fact people play better with people that they know. Competitive games, with a different team each game leads to frustration. With a team you start to learn each others, patters, and styles . Its easy to tell if someone is having an off day , because you can point it out. In the long run , competitive online games is a statistics game. you keep playing until you get better or you platou hard. People play games to win, not to learn.

[@mjbrownii]

“Light years measures distance not time” - some random Pokémon trainer

[@brokentoy9]

League is truly unforgiving, but... it always has a special place in my heart.

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

They really need to make a better tutorial. Like with the recent update they upgraded the ai in co op and practice tool to go jungle and sup and play other champions than galio, alistar, nasus, ryze etc so it shouldnt be that hard now.

[@aleks_v1]

​@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1lythere really was no easing into the game, its so very different from most games people play before trying it and it doesnt explain a single thing the only real viable way to moderately quickly catch on is have someone personally guide you through every step and basically be your beginner's coach thats how i got it, had 3 friends who invited me to play and they spent hours talking about basics, whether in game on the fly when i had questions, between playing about more overall ideas of the game, or on recess in school in person, i remember being pretty confused why champions had roles and cant just go anywhere lmao, or how the hell am i supposed to know what runes to pick

[@paige8453]

The characters look so good but you are to small and there is to much going on. It makes my brain hurt, I just cant do it😂

[@CaffinatedCoffee]

People who think OW has toxic players haven't played very many online multiplayer games. It's probably one of the least toxic communities, there is.

[@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly]

If people think that league has a toxic player base then..... They are correct. We made a few insults to pass the banning system. Gangplank q on yourself ( pew pew yourself) Orn e, fiora q, lucian e basicly any dash into a driveway Talon passive out of a window Etc

[@CaffinatedCoffee]

@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly 100% League is right at the top of the list for most toxic. On par with the worst depths of COD lobbies.

[@cooltwittertag]

Counter argument: you havent played enough games because you think the only online communities that exist are the toxic ones you know

[@CaffinatedCoffee]

@cooltwittertag No no, I've been playing online games for years and years. Toxic and non-toxic communities exist. Put it on a scale of 1-10, if 10 for Toxicity is League of Legends, and 1 is something like Animal Crossing. Overwatch is maybe like a 6, maybe 6.5. Overwatch's chat ban and restrictions are too strict to allow for much toxicity.

[@cooltwittertag]

@CaffinatedCoffee that doesnt stop people on alts from being racist and sexist

[@1Shayz1]

I think a big factor multiplayer games miss these days is having a single player campaign where you can learn the basic mechanics of the genre before you hop online My very first shooter was Halo and that game helped me get a grasp on the fundamentals of first person shooters. So did Titanfall 2's campaign, Doom, Bioshock, etc. I played all of these games before I played games like Overwatch or Apex

[@ZaCloudo]

at the start of chapter 2, fortnite added a system where if your account was a certain low ammount of levels, you were placed in strictly bot lobbies until your account level raised higher (through playing the game) 4 years later and it's still true, you can actually make an brand new alt account and use it to get your main account and friends into bot lobbies for basically free xp

[@RandomRoll-Games]

This is great. It's nice seeing people have a positive attitude of new players and trying to show why it is rough instead of fun for them. I'm not known for being great with any game I play but if I love it I'm loyal and I hate meta and playing the boring "the way it's done" 😅 I'm a hardcore ARK PvE player for example🤭 So maybe opinions on that game. I ignore them and just have fun.

[@m.m9295]

Honestly, the Widowmaker with 3.2k hours in AI mode makes total sense to me. Sitting here at 36 years old, I now have a career, a home, a family, and a million responsibilities that fall under each of those categories. I would love to sit and grind pubs/comp all day, but if I'm in the middle of a match, and I have to run out for 3 minutes to change a dirty diaper, or if I have to take a call from work for something important, I'm throwing the match for 5 other people. I don't have the time to sit down for 10-20 minutes without interruption, so I'm left to mostly single player and multiplayer with AI matches.

[@corneliusblackwood9014]

I mean my wife plays games with me, she was never a “gamer”, she gives it all a go. She’s surprisingly good at some games. We’re currently playing POE2, CFB25 (the squads version 2x player vs 2x player), various survival games, I tried to get her to play an MMO. She actually liked Elden Ring, we had fun playing that and are looking forward to the CoOp game.

[@CrimsoniteSP]

Man, I thought Flats was a gamer but he doesn't even know what Celeste is. It's one of my all-time favorite games, ever. It's so good.

[@failadin1]

He’s a console scrub that got pretty lucky streaming overwatch, bros basically a normie lol

[@CrimsoniteSP]

@failadin1 The comment was sarcasm. Not everyone knows every game, bud. Celeste is an 11/10 though, no sarcasm there.

[@silvertusk5491]

Arguably the best 2d platformer out there

[@fuhjrvr7474]

@@failadin1this is the most corny cringe comment i’ve ever seen. calling a console player a normie for not knowing a smaller indie game is just cringe as hell. would love to see how your life is

[@princeofhalcyon]

In order to enjoy online play you have to have a somewhat preestablished enjoyment of competition. Otherwise people will just get frustrated about the eventual downhill battle until the game clicks and they start their ladder climb

[@TM26Slippy]

I've been gaming for over a decade and still get nervous about jumping into competitive games. Just played supervive a couple days ago with a friend and neither of us were good or played league, no idea what we were doing but piecing together things we did from different games, I ended up getting ranked 1 healer for the week and he was like ranked 4th in the day for kills. It's alright to be scared and lose and learn. We started ranked supervive and got 1st place first four games.

[@YoshuaMidas]

I personally think the best way for a tutorial to teach is against bots, but with varying difficulty. It goes from teaching you the mechanics against targets that don't fight back, to teaching you to be careful against targets that can k*ll you. It won't replicate the experience against players, but it will make you more wary. Tho in the end, a tutorial can only do so much. The only way to really ease someone into a game is by having someone explain and show it to you. When I introduce people into a game that have no experience, I will go into 1v1 custom lobby and go through things, stream some things on discord, sometimes for hours on end, while also trying to not overload them with all there is. Because games nowadays are just too advanced, and people have diffrent ways of learning. There's a fine balance to it all.

[@mihaiioc.3809]

i think it should be like solo tutorial explaining how to use your abilities (much like OW tutorial) scripted match explaining what is happening and what you should do in each situation match against bots match against new players normal match of course this should be optional but available. won't force people playing their 4th hero shooter and 20th shooter to re-learn what HP and DMG are and what healing is and what the rules of payload and capture the point are, but some people actually need to be told how to play payload and that if your health gets to 0 you die. Just an hour ago i played a QP game where the enemy team had 3x my team's damage but they never pushed the payload as if they never knew they should, accidentally they moved it like 3 meters but all of their players were looking to fight rather than push lmao, prolly trolling but imagine they were all in a 5 people party trying out the game and thought they just need to get kills XD

[@toribear9666]

We introduced my mom to 360 camera game instead of her normal 2-d Arcade game or side scroller.....and it didnt go well. I had to explain to my mom that Speed run videos are different than tutorial videos shortly after. She refuses more help cause she is prideful/stubborn. ^^ Im happy she does like it but its difficult for her.

[@ChaseWright-k4y]

Do what siege did, make a rookie queue and make a report option available for smurfing

[@marshtomp8]

When i use to play League it eas literally only bot games because i wanted to avoid the real people. I use to only play Overwatch unranked or the pve events. I never touched ranked stuff really until Pokémon Unite sorta forced me into it and then coddled the shit out of me. Now im hard stuck carrying the 40% win rate players and actually playing ranked OW2 whenever i do play it. So i very much get the sentiment of "this is the destination for some"

[@Hinton_418]

With Fortnite the first time you play the game ever on a new account you get matched up with only bot lobbies for your first like 3 or 5 lobbies, also the game takes into account what's basically is your Elo to decide what kind of lobbies you get. If you are struggling with the initial bot lobbies, it's going to continue matching you with more bots than players.

[@Hockmed_Gaming]

My wife and I play OW all the time together. She watched me play for about 6-8 months before deciding to play. While very testing at times we have a great time together, but if not for watching me first she would have never went into the game. We get to hate this game together as we play all the time. It is a very hard games to hope in alone and learn. Watching somebody is the best way to get a better idea how to play. The biggest problem is a lot of the people that play are top 500 and have no real idea what it is really like in the mid to bottom. Even though the advice is sound and makes since it doesn't really transfer unfortunately.

[@EvonneSol]

I will say, one thing TF2 always had over Overwatch and other hyper-competitive games is how chill it is for the most part. No shade on OW or other e-sports style games, but some of them go way too hard and leave little room for newcomers to come in and have fun and learn the game. TF2, though, has this pervasive goofiness to it that means you're less likely to take things overly seriously and even if someone is raging and flaming people you feel less inclined to tilt with them since it's not that serious. There's whole servers just dedicated to hanging out and having fun, and those player-made setups are part of why it's so fun. Does the game have issues? Absolutely. But it's just on the cusp of the really competitive team vs team overhaul that happened in the industry, so it feels a lot more flexible and welcoming. For every sniper that's camping spawn you're likely to find a handful of engineers messing around and having a good time, or people just messing around and emoting. That community is one of the few where I feel like a new player can walk in and not immediately get shredded.

[@kastoondaria1413]

Ive played seige for a while and yeah theres a lot of people that suck but there's also a lot of great people that are willing to help out too and the beginners stuff they added definitely are a nice touch

[@jpeili]

I clicked on this video to click the link in the description to watch the real video. Thank you large overwatch shorts creator

[@bubblewrap42]

9:48 i think about that so often actually, could talk hours about why its so.. well weird 😆

For real

[@HOYOI]

when i got into ow as my first fps shooter game ever (i previously played games like minecraft, transformice, roblox) i was bad but i had someone there to teach me the basics and then i ended up getting so into it i just did my own research bc otherwise i would have not known fully what i was doing or how to correct my mistakes in the game. i translate that knowledge now to every other game i play, i test the waters then do a ton of research.

[@SpacePirate549]

yesss i love this guy's video! it was so interesting to watch and her gameplay reminds me of my early gameplay

[@foxblessing]

this is exactly how I feel playing a fighting game for the very first time oml

[@e3.14c4]

the only answer is cooperation. I did this on my own, but when I first found LoL I just played players vs bots/ai matches to learn (in fact it took my third install of the game for me to finally feel like I had a responsible enough amount of knowledge of the game to play against real players, not even ranked), in Rivals I used quickplay to get a sense of all of the characters despite it begging me to play ranked, etc. I get to grips with and learn my controls and what articulation is at my disposal to play the game. This cross-translates to many things, and is an adept trait of curiosity more than anything. So I'd then ask how often is someone introduced to a game and then fed to the wolves without any clear direction, at a dissolute level of trust in either person going forward. Obvious answer is you better hope it works out some other way, and my argument is that brand new players will often take things at their own leisurely pace, and not be looking to compete with other players unless they were confident, and by the tone of his wife's voice this dude practically farmed her to verify his suppositions of acknowledgeably bad or nonexistent tutorials without needing to highlight the conditions of whom he subjected such to.

[@e3.14c4]

lol when I unpaused it immediately started talking about bots. There are other methods though, such as when PvP is a PvE contest of who did the most points themselves, so you can feel good and not admonished by the foot of someone else.

[@xXWyTeBreaDXx]

Dude I used to flame my teammates in every game I played for not being goood enough but now that I’m older I’ve started to realize that feeling of letting down your team is always there when you play a new game and so I stopped doing it. It was always sad to hear on the other side “I’m just trying to learn how to play the game” after having said some mean shit about how bad they are. Unfortunately, not everyone thinks about this

[@stunnfisk1276]

As someone who was introduced to fire arms in person later in life, the only game that has given me any amount of gun literacy is escape from Tarkov. While most games show you the surface when you hold a fire arm all of its safety’s buttons releases and handles are a complicated mess that requires you read a manual or have it explained by someone who does. Tarkov only taught me how to clear a shell caught in the slide.

[@stunnfisk1276]

I think the more important part is the cultural impact on how we view war. Which does do all of the army fueling things that people generally associate with us war propaganda.

[@helpless7620]

Not wanting to play a game to annoy other players is so relatable. I can’t go back to playing overwatch after a year long break for this reason.

[@tannerswayze5621]

Starcraft2 had a relatively simple fix(but it may only work for a 1v1 multi-player system) with practice league, which was only available to brand new accounts.

[@JustADadsValorantAcademy]

honestly i lucked out. i was super gifted to adapting to games. ive never actually been bad at a game i would play poorly for the first day then my skill ramps up faster till i hit middle of the pack and then i would have to start grinding to get really good. this sadly gives me a bad trait of looking down on others (I try my best not to) im never toxic to people but i just think to myself "this is so simple how dont you understand it. " but i do love seeing others improve, although my wife found me a bit overbearing as i have an obsession with improvement im happy she let me teach her a bit of the games i play it was fun seeing her grow.

[@williamboyle2165]

Yeah it does make you unlock more characters slowly still.

[@trickjay7824]

I took my dad's pc and played in his RTCW and Q3A games when he was playing with his clan every time he went to the bathroom I would sneak up and play a few lives before he came back. Everyone in the clan was nice and loved it and I mostly just ran around and died. After a while I actually learned the mechanics just by playing the game and having no tutorial. Got my own pc and joined his lobbies with his gaming clan and the rest is history.

[@luci8857]

Played R6 from beta to year 6 and from year 4-6 was such a nightmare of an experience it lead to me leaving the game for good.

[@fightthisfreeze]

overwatch was actually my first fps in 2016 when i was 23! i had already played a lot of minecraft and some singleplayer games, so i had the "move and do another action at the same time" thing down already. but as for my aim, it has always been my weakest point. i've improved a lot in the last 8 years, but it's still something i'm not amazing at. i have games where i'm decent and games where it feels like i can't hit a single shot. i have over 1300 hours in the game and i am still not a high rank, and i definitely attribute it to me not playing video games much until i was already 20 years old. i just don't have that skill that people who have played fps games since they were 10 have haha. the good thing about overwatch is that gameplay doesn't solely rely on aim to be effective. so i still manage to have a good time (sometimes), especially playing with friends. when i started i was bronze and now i slide between gold and diamond depending on my role so i've gotten better, but my skill is pretty much capped haha. but anyway, i struggle/struggled with multiplayer shooters even with some gaming experience, and even after so many hours playing because i didn't play games during my "prime" at a young age. so i can't imagine how frustrating and difficult it would be for someone who has never played games at all to get into. not to mention being a woman it can be really upsetting to be in voice chat. some of the things people have said to me are insane.

[@fightthisfreeze]

oh i also played against bots for like 3 hours before i went into an actual match for the first time

[@m0noxyd871]

I'm so glad he spoke about matches against ai in his video, because with the release of arcane (s1 and s2), more and more people have wanted to try league of legends and gave up or complained because of the toxicity and the too complex mechanics, when honestely the matches against ai are the best way to enjoy the game without the toxicity for a new players, with the last level of difficulty for the bots almost being as good aa unranked players and needing you to actually pay attention to win

[@gmon3y737]

My first game of League, I played Hecraim jungle and the other jungler was a smurf. We ended up queuing together for a game and he said, "I thought you were a smurf because your username was DestroyedNexus." I then took a hiatus from League because I got smoked and because I was playing on a very bad laptop. I spent most of my weeks playing R6 (on Xbox followed by PS4) and peaked Diamond (on PS4) (hot take Xbox siege was way more competitive than PS4 Siege, I was hardstuck G1/P3, first season on PS4 I get P2 and eventually D). And as a R6 sweat, I can confirm staying away from Siege to not piss people off was based. Edit: the insecurity about people not wanting to play with you because of your skill makes sense, however most players understand that "New Players" are the lifeline of games and wont be as toxic if they know you're new. With that said, if the game has a ranked mode, do not play it until you understand the game and can compete decently in casual matches. If you are a newer player and you que ranked you will 100% get flamed way more than in casual. The only game that isn't true is League because you can't que ranked games with more than 3 players as the que time takes too long since it's a different ranked system. I also disagree with Rocket League being an easy game because, although it's intuitive and easy to understand. The skill ceiling is extremely high and the controls are hard even though the object is simple. I am only Champion in Rocket League however if I played against four people with less than 10 hours on the game I would win by at least 20 goals. Another thing is, why is she playing Lux in top lane. Lux does not go top lane because she cannot deal enough damage from the people she's playing against, does not have a teammate to help her like in bot, and cannot escape because the lane is longer than mid. Most players will type if you're doing something offmeta or dumb to make sure you know what role you're supposed to be. Like if you get filled top lane and dont see it and thought you were playing mid and picked Lux, most players will say, "Lux top?" or "mid lane you're bringing smite. Is that intentional?"

[@kimmyjill-o]

a few years ago I shot a non nerf gun for the first time ever and was dead on target every time I shot it. the conditioning from games just with hand eye coordination alone is insane. I'm also a decent shot with a compound bow and I hardly ever practice. granted, these are all at stationary targets and I'm sure I'd do far worse aiming for something moving. but it still really shocked me

[@cedriclindsey7666]

Racing games taught me a lot of basics about driving. Cruising in gta for example

[@lazybones1752]

I once asked my sister to play my valorant ranked game for me because I had to bring home my little brother from school, she started round 1. When I came back, it was 1-9 and she was hiding in spawn almost crying, headphones off, because she kept being cursed and swore at. It wasn't really high elo either, she even managed to kill someone by chance with a pistol.

[@TulkOrkan]

R6 take is such a hammer on the nail for me. I only play it to connect with my brother but i'm consistently 1 and 8 on round 9.

[@maksimslhernault4042]

for somthing like overwatch or any hero shooter have a mission pool with basic skills for a few characters like do x amount of dmg with a dps character and do x amount of healing with healers and x amount of dmg blocked with tanks new players will then have enough time to get used to the game and smurf will most likely be weeded out because they will most liikely get those done super fast in addition have wither the tutorial / hero missions / player vs AI available for new players this would also be a place to gather extra data on players for companies to somewhat protect competitive integrity of the comp mode if it is there because based on how fast the player finishes the missions and does all the basic modes at least once will determine where they will get placed in matchmaking in quick play and in ranked when they unlock it when winning pvp matches

[@e3.14c4]

18:54 agreed, this is why I didn't give a single hoot about OW2. IF there's no grounds to meet and buildup others (regarding or disregarding toxicities irrelevant), then you just have a bad game meant to be a suicide net for players of other games.

[@joshleavittfilms908]

The immediate hate of your league team mates is definitely the most relatable thing in this video.

[@Snack-Sized-Femboy]

League has quite a hard learning curve. Especially since top-down games like MOBAs and RTS are usually much more niche than a first person game that even a non-gamer has probably seen before. As someone who has played both League since 2014 and Overwatch since the 2016 beta, I grew up on FPS multiplayer like Halo, CoD, Counter Strike, tf2, etc. Getting good at league of legends took me 3-4 months of trial and error, where as I was regularly MVP in the Overwatch beta in the first day or so. We take for granted the amount of experience we've gained without particularly realizing it.

[@Mochiii00]

I personally think that you can’t jump into online competitive multiplayer fully blind. Most people get into online competitive multiplayer games by watching someone else and learning bits about the game, through that they are not fully blind. Or they come from other games that which they can use their experience from them. I also think the general loop for online competitive multiplayer is you are interested in game, you suck at game, you google how to get better/watch someone better, practice the game with new knowledge, or you quit. I say online competitive multiplayer games because there are other online multiplayer games that aren’t competitive and that is the game type the video maker chose for every genre.

[@flowy3422]

the thing about tutorials is that they dont work, at every format someone will complain, get frustrated and thats it

[@xdxsby]

I wanna mention something about siege, i was a new player and learning the game, keep that in mind. I played it as if it were real right like moving slow checking corners taking my time and my teammates, well they went in head first all died then i would get vote kicked out of the match simply because i was the last one standing and they didn't want to wait, I guess. This happened at least once or twice a gaming session and made me hate it so i quite after a month or less, around 30-40 hrs.

[@paige8453]

I feel like there would be a lot more new players joining these multiplayer games if they just added a game mode for newbies. A lot of people like myself don’t like multiplayer games because we are scared of not being good enough. Getting into a multiplayer game filled with high level experienced players as a complete newbie is anxiety inducing for a lot of people so they just don’t play. I’d say there is at least a 75% chance you would see more newbie players if there was a game mode in these multiplayer games that pitted newbies levels 20 and under against each other. I also have a more barbarian play style as in I go right in axe swinging towards an enemy. Sadly that type of gameplay doesn’t translate well to multiplayer games. So it makes me really incompatible with multiplayer games

[@e3.14c4]

shoutouts to the trials rising team for their tutorials though, I miss stuff like that, and they even brought on a youtuber to help refine and master that experience for people and I think it's fucking awesome and more games should do stuff like that. Flats or whoever reads these please take a smol look at that game because it's one of the few examples I can muster that isn't a JRPG handbook or something like that.

[@e3.14c4]

11:36 FF 14 does this, has adverts and banner announcements in it's launcher that try to simplify and ease the ideas of the game (hyper casual I know), but that lesson needs to be highlighted somehow to the more hardcore games/genres because there's a clear segregation.

[@SkyFallInBound]

I pretty much automatically mute most chats in competitive games until I get half decent at the game because I just don’t want to deal with people sometimes. Fully get people not wanting to get into a game because of the players. Even if a lot of people are used to it, so many others really don’t want to get cursed out when trying to have fun.

[@mrainbowgs]

Regarding the argument that games promote gun knowledge, I don't think much actually transfers, and games tend to build bad habits. For example, Flats discussed reloading and changing magazine. Games often lead people to think that magazines are disposable or even single-use devices. If you start throwing away magazines in real life, you'd run into trouble quickly. In high-activity scenarios, people might carry extra magazines, but for the most part, ammunition is carried in clips or even as loose rounds.

[@apexdude105]

11:15 yeah, so about 99% of players would skip any type of video content mini-series even if it's in-game.

[@Culvey]

My kid learning some gaming is difficult for me. He is learning from little kid games on his tablet like PBS Games and stuff, he has moved on a bit to Stardew Valley... where he just blows all his money making like 80 treasure chests because "Look Dad TREASURE!" Recently I got "Little Kitty Big City" for him to play with a controller... and having a game where he cant "lose" but had some technical mechanics was hard enough for him. He also enjoyed Dragon Ball Z Kakarot when I turned it down to minimum difficulty because you could just mash buttons and beat people up. I think throwing a never gamer into a multi-player game is just insane.

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

The simplistic way to balance to new players would have level 1s only play against people lvl1-5 or something and then slowly increase the lvl number as they go up.

[@TheBrywarrior90]

Okay, but Overwatch now has those training course things, right? I've only ever played the Sojourn one, and I found it helpful with figuring out swapping her aim styles. I assume the Support and Tank ones are similar, with focuses on what each individual character should be trying to do in the game.

[@venrisulven]

Experienced players EXPECT players of their level in every match. New player NEED people of their level to learn how to play the game. When theyre put together due to lack of new players at that time bad things happen.

[@woiic9221]

It would be interesting to see her experience 1v1 online games, because the experience is completely different to team games

[@HarshWinter101]

Razbuten is a gem of a youtube channel

[@BeholdGaming]

There doesn't need to be skill matchmaking imo. Matches should be a mix and match of all skill levels. The way you get better is to play better competition. This is one aspect I think holds hero shooter players, and most multiplayer gamers for that matter, back too. Putting all bronze or whatever together means no one ever truly improves. A good system would be no skill match or rank, and the progression system would be based on an individual level. For instance have an individual but not visible elo, and if you kill a higher elo player it gives you some kind of kudos like "wow you killed a tough matchup, congratulations!" Or if some higher elo person is on your team it'll hint at you to do what they're doing, with more specific tips, like "so and so teammate flashed then killed their adversary, how effective!" A really in depth system like this could totally be enjoyable for everyone and players can improve at the same time. With stuff like this, and no full on same rank match making players would learn as they play, and actually improve! A bad player playing with other bad players will never teach them to play better, and may even give them bad habits. And even if they study and put in the time offline to get better they may never be able to get to a rank to play with better players. There can still be a soft rank system to keep people chasing something, lots of ways to implement that, like badges for one. I grew up playing multiplayer games from as far back as quake, unreal tournament, and original half life modded counter-strike. We didn't rank up, we just played for the fun of it on whatever server we chose to play on, which obviously had players of all skill levels. I never thought, oh gee wish I was only playing people of my same skill. If I was dominating, I was having fun. And if I was getting dominated I had something or someone to try to conquer. Which as a side point brings me to server play. No one does it anymore, but it's actually one aspect of online gaming that should make a comeback. Now days people hop in and out of random matches with people they don't know, almost always different. This is one reason for toxicity in games, because there's no connection to anyone. When I used to play og counter-strike I'd play on the same server ever night. Grew to know regulars. Kinda learn their tendencies. Who was good and who was bad. And they knew mine. And if I became too predictable I'd have to mix it up more. It was a meta of its own outside the game mechanics. Not only that we could have fierce competitions with our normal rivals or teamwork with regulars. And sometimes those would be mixed and matched because of how teams formed from map to map. If someone showed up enough everyone would come to recognize them and they'd be a regular. And people improved. That scrub that played one day 3 months ago was now top of the scoreboard, they had essentially ranked up. Finally, toxicity was at a minimum because we were all somewhat familiar, and if a new guy was lacking we gave them tips.

[@braxtongreen9051]

Scenarios most likely, OW has the right idea(and the wrong idea) with Hero Mastery but that mode should be cloned and made into a series of scenarios that will prepare the player for real life situations. Run a small simulation of pushing the payload around the corner of the map and eliminate 3 enemies. Something simple like that.

[@thezombiesatemyhomework7412]

There are a TON of ways this could be abused... But I have somewhat of a cool idea, maybe? I'm working on a game that (to avoid leaks) involves the players taking on the role of honorable sorts on two sides of a conflict. We've began work on a mentor sort of system in which much emphasis is placed on taking good care of your charge as you take them through battles and help them accomplish their in-field training. You can have multiple mentors, or be matched with others when none of your own are available. The system prioritizes higher rank players over low rank, it next takes the time they've been waiting into account, and weights that against more experienced players who've already found matches. We haven't used it yet, as we are not in an open testing stage and have little data on how it will perform, but as a gamer who has had a fair few individuals step up to take on this role for me for years, I expect we'll see some pretty damn cool results. We're just a small company, but I am optimistic for this specific system at least.

[@NoNameNinjaa]

Creators should make a quick o boarding guide. One 1 to 2 minute video for a quick start. Another detailed one a la "one tip against every hero" type. Written by creators. Narrated and presented by the vo + 1 streamer who mains them as a pro and a novice type setup

[@None-lx8kj]

I love when she doesn't want to play any more League and everyone in chat is like "Yep, she gets it."

[@BabyMandingo]

I never thought of it like that, my gun knowledge came from actual guns so when I found something like tarkov, I WAS HOOKED! 😂

[@theredguy92]

OW actually has a pretty good tutorial if you consider who made it Bronze teaching bronze 😂