Flattening an endgrain cutting board safely

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I sell these through my Etsy page now! newmanspecials.etsy.com/listing/1646706556

[@tristengammon7844]

Do you have a video how you made the jig?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@tristengammon7844 not this one, sorry!

[@tristengammon7844]

How do I get one ?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@tristengammon7844 I’m actually completely sold out. I have had an extremely large number of sales and orders recently. I made a form to give emails for relisting notifications forms.gle/Ym8yyC19hm4bhpSv7

[@DezRAT1990]

I need that bad.....just put my 1st cutting board together and had hesitation on running it thru my planer...glad I saw your video.

[@HBSuccess]

I send endgrain cutting boards through my DeWalt 735 all the time with ZERO issues. Plain knives not a helical head. Two things 1) you need a carriage that backs the board w a sacrificial strip so the end of the cutting board doesn’t tear out and 2) take tiny cuts at slow speed. And change knives often- they’re cheap.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yep - I said a few other times, I had it go right once. Then the “incident” occurred. And I never want that to happen again. So I use this and it take about 10 minutes to do both sides

[@jeffbuller6708]

I came to say the same thing. Glue a sacrificial on and take tiny passes. The router sled is great if it won't fit through the planer.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@jeffbuller6708 like I said - I’d rather do this and know it will be successful than do that extra bit and hope. This is just easier for me. Thanks though

[@jeremyfugarino7901]

I was just thinking the same thing. Dewalt seems to work just fine. Just have to take very light passes

[@MiaTheDobermann]

​@@jeremyfugarino7901router for the win

[@michaelleas]

I used this video to build this jig, just not adjustable, and it worked perfectly! Only took about 10 minutes to build. Thank you for this idea

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

That’s so great! I’m glad it was helpful!

[@detroutspinners9933]

You sir, are a genius! I’ve made router sleds before and had bad results, but this took me 10 minutes to knock up and gave me better results than a planer. Had to come back just to say thanks for the idea!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Love to hear that!! Thank you for letting me know!

[@LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous]

Thats a great idea. ❤ finally a wood worker that owns normal guy tools, not the entire fest tools catalog.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! Making, or buying this, is about 20x cheaper than buying a drum sander or a cast iron planer!!

[@LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I'm all about making tools for specific jobs, that is a great idea though, recently I was making a roof beams for a wishing wel/well cover, for the yard, and had to do half cuts , on my 6x6 timbers, but a skill saw wouldn't get my half way , and the chainsaw, does make a good enough cut profile, but I'll tell you what, that ole router, did the job , also used a hand saw to make a profile and parameter. Sometimes when you thinking with out your wallet, it ends up, helping you out, and other people on down the road, just like your idea.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous that’s a great way to do it and a great way of wording it!

[@DezRAT1990]

Forgot to ask, what trim bit are you using?

[@bill4123]

You might want to consider adding a hard stop at the ends of that jig so it's impossible during normal use for the bit to cut outside where hands might be. Nice cutting board and tips/tricks! Thanks for sharing!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you - if I can figure out a good way to do it I will!

[@eliterag]

You can actually send an endgrain cutting board through the planer. All you need to do is to add a chamfer at the end of your cutting board and take light passes. This will avoid any tear out or "explosion".

[@inspectorsteve2287]

I've never had a problem planning end grain cutting boards.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Some people are lucky. Once you have it go bad you never want to experience it again

[@PiercesPerfectPieces]

That’s what I was wondering/thinking!! 🤔 I do it all the time after glue up & I’ve never had it "explode" on me! 🤔 🤷‍♂️

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@PiercesPerfectPieces that’s great! It’s pretty common

[@Vidar93]

Ive sent plenty through without issues and even have used them to fix bowed boards and what not. I had one that was just a normal maple and cherry engrain board and for some reason the planer didn't like it and it sent it flying back out the fed tray in pieces. I'm so glad I always stand to the side of the machine because it could have been really bad. What's funny is I really wasnt even pushing the machine like I had several times before. I still occasionally do it for super thin cuts to just even out a face but if it's anything major I just use a router now and am much happier for it. It takes about as long and since I have a wider jig I can actually do large format stuff just as easily.

[@Vidar93]

​@@PiercesPerfectPiecesI never did for the longest time and in general I took super thin cuts and was very gentle with it but there were a couple times wherebthe entire board was cupped and it took big chunks out without issue. Then one time I had a very basic maple and cherry end grain board that was just getting a super small section planed that was just barley out and about 1/3 of it exploded and shor the board and the pieces flying back out the in feed tray. I'm lucky i always sand to the side of my machine but I'm really grateful I wasn't behind it.

[@lhtsnakes1]

I have never heard of not being able to put an end grain board through the planer. That's interesting and I'll have to consider that. Only ever made edge grain boards.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yeah, it is ugly when it goes bad! I’m actually selling these jigs through a company called weCNCthat

[@jd5997]

You should do the first pass on one side, then first pass in the other side. With how you show it technically may not be directly vertical, could have a slight lean to it.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’ll be squirting it up on the table saw, so I’m not really worried about it, but you are correct that it might happen!

[@TheToolBoxWhisperer]

I have used a planer on all my end grain cutting boards, just go slowly and don't use a dull blade. Cool board!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! I’ve been successful going through a planer once. And then the next time it was terrible. I never want to have that happen again! 😂 this just works for me

[@rl4889]

Anyone thats used a planer knows its possible and feasible for this project. Just take a tiny bit at a time.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@rl4889 I believe i already mentioned that it is, but this is faster and easier for me at this point

[@asoggyburger479]

Honestly this may be quicker than sending it through the planer anyway. No shimming or hot gluing to a sled and waiting for it to dry then sending through and flipping. No doubt it’s safer too, great little jig for flattening small pieces!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@asoggyburger479 thanks! That’s my thought- and it’s easier to store!

[@uwishpal]

You can send it through the planer. Glue sacrificial boards around it like a frame. It works fine every time. As long as you aren’t taking off a ton at once.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’ve had a few people say that - I’ve done it but the extra work and wasted wood always irritated me. This is just easier for me at this point. Thanks

[@toastynip6193]

Omg I never thought to make my own sled, that’s amazing!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It’s absolutely fantastic to have!

[@dbnoho]

This is a great idea. If you don’t have money for a drum sander. And you don’t have 20 bored hours to orbit sand. I have a belt sander. Cheap from harbor freight. Then I have a couple belts, 60 grit to 320grit. And in 20 minutes of just sending the board back and forth across the top. Smooth board.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Nice - that’s definitely a solid way to do it! It’s more work than I want to do, and I know how bad I am at keeping belt sanders flat, but it’s all about what works for you!

[@lindashealingart]

Thank you so much I was wondering if I had to get a really huge router or if I can use a smaller one

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

The small one is plenty! And I’m working with a company who is now selling the flattening sled! If you go to Www.WeCNCthat.com and click on my avatar (Logan Newman) you can get one

[@Kathyskollectables]

Will be configuring this jig very soon. Making my first end grain board.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It’s easy to make and makes a huge difference!

[@robharrison285]

That is a nice jig, especially the adaptability feature(s). I have made many EG boards and sent them through the planer - just need to attach side grain sacrificial pieces to the leading and trailing edge as they will take the cutting. When done, you either cut the pieces off OR leave them for an interesting edge that you could route finger grooves into.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! I appreciate both the compliment and advice on endgrain boards! I will keep doing them like this since it has worked out so well for me!

[@jamesortolano3983]

Wow very cool, loved wood working. Enjoyed your idea

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you! 🙌

[@TomaCreationBois]

Amazing jig right there.i already did and used one just like yours and it works wonders.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Nice! I’m so glad to hear it!🙌

[@albertomoreno477]

I was looking for this :D

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Glad it was here for you!

[@joepearson9704]

do you have a link to the trim router sled build?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Not yet. It’s coming soonish

[@joepearson9704]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Cool. I'll be watching.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@joepearson9704hi - the company went live with items last week! Here is a link for the sled: wecncthat.com/product/logan-trim-router-flattening-jig-w-universial-baseplate/

[@joepearson9704]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork excellent. Thank you.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@joepearson9704 glad to help!

[@zososldier]

I have sent dozens of end grain cutting boards through a planer. None have blown up. Just glue some side grain sacrificial boards to the front and the back and take shallow cuts.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

The shallow passes didn’t work for me. I’ll stick with this, since it does. Thanks

[@orion7741]

Just put it through the planer. Save yourself a hassle and time of all the router nonsense. You can put end grain boards like whats in your video through a planer with ZERO problems. Not sure what youre doing that causes problems, but whatever it is, its obviously wrong. 100% user error.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

😂😂 right, cause I’m the ONLY person who has experienced the planer explosion. It’s pretty common. You must be the chosen one since you’ve never even heard of it

[@beermonkey18271]

such a great tutorial 👏

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you!

[@dylanhunter8613]

Chamfer the back edge with a hand plane and send it through normal planer. It works fine

[@PaulSmith-vn4lu]

I have sent literally 100s of end grain boards through my planner with a sacrificial board. I have never seen a board explode. But you do you my friend

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Exactly - do what works best for you. Thanks

[@PaulSmith-vn4lu]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I'm going to make a jig like yours tomorrow and try it out. Looks handy for other things I do

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@PaulSmith-vn4lu it actually started out as a dado jig and then i used it for this and moved on to adjusting

[@G2Gltd]

My first approach would be figuring what I have to do to run it through a planer. 😂

[@jameswalsh4056]

When your piece has uneven dried glue material on both sides you need a carriage or some sort of support underneath as you plane or router your first side. You have to make the rough underside "square to the table" with wedges/supports or you will remove more material than necessary from first side.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Absolutely! Unless your piece is relatively flat, this is always a good idea!

[@robertphillips3992]

Thank you!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Glad it’s helpful!

[@thedailystoner6753]

If you put a piece of mdf or particle glued to an end you can send it throught the planer no problem

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’ve heard that, but I’ve never been successful with it!

[@peterwong7625]

Would appreciate if u could demonstrate how to cut circle. Cos I need teaching method to make a picture frame wth lighting on it. Thank you

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’m sorry - I just saw this! What size circle? I actually just posted a circle jig I made this past week

[@paulflynn2481]

helical head planer does great job on decking the end grain. My question is, why do people use laminate trimmers beyond what the armature can handle

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

You mean like how they are used in all the smaller CNC’s?

[@paulflynn2481]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork yes. After 30 years in the industry we know that the technology has created better small motors. However, the duty rating for the Small routers is based entirely upon very limited rotating mass factor.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@paulflynn2481 I had a dewalt trim router in one machine for 3 years. I replaced the brushes 2x. My newer machine works with a makita router. There are people I know who run it 8-10 hours a day and pulling in 3 figures a year on sales that their machine cuts for them. I think they have figured out the machine load at this time. Well, I don’t pretend to be a mechanical or electrical engineer, I do have the ability to listen and feel a machine as I use it. I have yet to experience an issue with the router in my jigs.

[@jamesyoung4633]

It makes both faces parallel to each other.

[@wayneprice6918]

Could you set up a jig for a power plane? Makita or DeWalt

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Maybe. It would be fun to try

[@dsb227]

Great idea!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Makes life so much easier for me!

[@TimKellerLinuxNinja]

I'm watching this while looking at my cnc that has a facing feature..

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yep. It’s good to have a CNC. Not everyone has one though

[@controllerpleb6568]

I am curious why you wouldn't just use a hand plane. Seems like it would be a little bit faster.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Are you being serious? Or is that a joke? It’s hard to tell over text

[@christianreza144]

Im an intermediate and have never had a planer before. But thinking of getting one. Can i get an understanding of why a planer cant do this?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It really comes down to what type of planer you get. A cast iron bed with a heavy head will be fine. Most of the lunchbox planners - like this one and smaller - lack the power to cut through the hard end grain. It will bounce around inside and pieces will break off and shoot out.

[@bigtonka82]

If you build a temp frame around it you should be able to send it through the planer without any blowouts, either way works. It turned out great.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! Many ways to skin a cat, right!? 🙌🙌

[@bigtonka82]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork yep lol, and you're welcome.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@bigtonka82 🙌🙌

[@thkatandi]

Fantastic!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks!

[@wcisean]

I send them through my spiral head planer all the time with a backer board glued on no issues!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I honestly love to hear that - it’s never worked for me and I know so many people it hasn’t worked for so I’m very happy that you’re successful!

[@wcisean]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork have you tried it with a backer board on a spiral head planer?

[@wcisean]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I could see it exploding with a straight knife on a planer! Not enough sheer cut!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@wcisean I haven’t

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@wcisean it’s bad

[@skullandbadbones]

If you clean up your squeeze out then wipe it down with a wet rag you can put it in a planer.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

The glue has nothing to do with the planer. It’s the end grain and the strength of the wood

[@trokt2]

Thanks, I'm gonna make this.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Glad to help!

[@mummsthaword1111]

Sent all my end grain cutting boards through the planer. No issues.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

As I’ve said several times on here - I am very happy for you. Most people I know have not been so lucky.

[@mummsthaword1111]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodworkwell you’re the one who said you can’t do it. What did you expect?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@mummsthaword1111 about what?

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

He's selling the jig. Obviously he wants to make money, so of course he'll say the planer doesn't work.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 I made it for a reason. Feel free to Google end grain and planer and see what the results of that search yield. I made this because of the issues with it and a company approached me about a year later about making it and selling it for me

[@benius42]

Never had a problem and I’ve made dozens of end grain boards. Super light passes

[@dmanzo811]

Make a sled and send it through your planer. Has worked for me 37x. Cherry walnut and maple

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It has not worked for me. I’ll stick with this. Thanks!

[@carlostradess]

You can glue a piece of pine at the end of each side and pass it through the planer I do that with my walnut boards and they come out perfectly fine, without the pine they blow up lol

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I did try it once and it didn’t work for me. I might have tried to take too much off. Honestly, at this point and with the number of end grain boards i do, I’m good with this setup

[@jonahlaird4227]

I have a board that looks like that but it started to separate from each other in the middle. Is there any way to repair something like this?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

The only thing to do would be to cut it down the joint and then re-glue it. It’s pretty easy to fix

[@AlwaysBolttheBird]

Not gonna lie I thought e audio was Jimmy Diresta for a second there

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’m not upset about that! 😂🙌

[@joshuarodriguez2242]

Add sacrificial pieces in front and back and send it thru the planer. Do it all the time. Only use a sled when its to big to send thru planer.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’m honestly not a fan of doing it that way - I just prefer this method. Thanks

[@olofandersson6910]

Sending it through a planer with a helical spindle works very well and saves you lot of time.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Helical heads are nice. 👍

[@katman8714]

Woodworker: takes 20yrs to make woodworking tools, then you can start😅

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

😂 I do like making my own stuff!

[@Liftedwoodworking]

I sent my end grain cutting board through my 735 yesterday and it sent it right back to me. 😂 What router bit are you using?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It’s so ugly when it happens! I started using the Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit toolstoday.com/v-17673-45522.html

[@TeamProsperity]

Very nice simple flatting sled ✅

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you! One of my favorite pieces!

[@SeamlessFab]

I just surface mine on the CNC and go upstairs while it’s facing

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Cool. Thanks for letting us know.

[@Aloudcar]

What type of bit did you use to trim it down with?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I started using this one and love it Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

[@rhess10]

What do you mean when you say: "...to the table."

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

The sled rides on the table so you are flattening the piece relative to the table

[@speedsd2202]

​ Only if you have flat table.

[@steventucker6057]

I like the jig set up... have you considered dado or duck bill or dove tailed cuts... I see dove and duck as the basic same, I don't know which you call it... but something to just insert a cut planchet (as it were), so you don't have to use so much tape... only asking because that is what I am going to do after I use and build on the design of your jig to make one of my own... I was going to do one of those cuts and make it adjustable with some old drawer tracks... but I couldn't have any of these ideas without your great idea... thank you for sharing... cheers

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I actually came up with this idea based off of a setup I made for dados. I would use this for that and had the cut lined up to show where it happened. I don’t know about using it for dovetails

[@steventucker6057]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork cheers

[@justinpaige-jw8jb]

I use a 48” wide belt sander. I can take 1/32” every pass

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yeah. That would make it easier. But most people don’t have one!

[@lancestancliffe4885]

I have to make a sled for my router too ;-) good video also

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! This has been a game changer for me!

[@RobSandstromDesigns]

Nice tip.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks buddy! 🙌🙌

[@connorkrueger3694]

What type router bit are you using? The one I have tried on my router creates A LOT of tear out and then I have sand for ours then the board isn't flat anymore.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I was using a cheap spoilboard flattening bit ($17) from amazing but I recently switched to this one from Amana ($34) and it has been amazing. I didn’t have tear out with the old one but the cut is faster and cleaner with the new one. Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit toolstoday.com/v-17673-45522.html

[@connorkrueger3694]

Ok thank you. I have been using a bit from amazon for $18. The first board it flattened perfectly but the three after that I have nasty tear out. Any other ideas what I might be doing wrong? @@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork

[@danmurphy7338]

What kind of woods did you use on there please. Looks cool

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you - it’s Walnut, cherry, white oak, and maple

[@pofoe2394]

The word you was looking for is parallel not squared

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Definitely a better word

[@aztecwarrior9729]

That's cool.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks!!

[@YOUR_NARRATOR975]

Couldn't you also use a Stanley no. 5 hand plane?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It depends on how many hours you have free

[@fanuvkorn85]

I made myself something similar to this but for the life of me i cant get it consistent.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I'm sorry to hear that. Do you have any idea why? Does it sit flat on the table?

[@TK-mj9rd]

what kind of bit are you using on your router?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I used to use a cheap one from Amazon but then I got one from Amana and love it. It’s about $35. Here’s the name of it Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

[@yomamma6756]

That is gangster g

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! One of my favorite pieces to use!

[@markgigiel2722]

Made my lungs hurt.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Them too what I do and wear a mask

[@88rushrocks]

Awesome thanks

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Glad it’s helpful

[@MrBAchompBAchomp]

Drum sander is faster than this & by far less messy, but very cool jig for those who don't have a drum sander

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Definitely less messy and a LOT cheaper! 😂🙌

[@jjdwnbyci]

Instead of flipping all your strips one way ...flip every other one in other direction for a nicer finished pattern

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I do that sometimes! I didn’t want to on this one though, thanks!

[@Eric-469]

Could you send it through a planer with sacrificial ends glued on?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’ve never done it, but I know people have. It’s just not my preference - this is easier for me

[@Eric-469]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork what works, works 🤙

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@Eric-469 absolutely brother!

[@woodworkingandepoxy643]

You absolutely can send an end grain board through a planer just take small passes

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yep. I was successful doing it once. And then I wasn’t and I never want to have that experience again!

[@IceXiao]

Could you find a video of a planer exploding? I totally believe you when you said it could explode, I just want to see it happen.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I don’t know - I’m not exactly sure that is something I want to have happen intentionally, but it is a good idea to try.

[@IceXiao]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I was only able to find the aftermath of it, but never the accident in progress. So yea, maybe something cool to see for educational purposes. Anyway, thanks for the videos.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@IceXiao I actually just got a new planer and might try this with the dewalt!

[@lonnyharris6464]

What bit are you using to flatten the surface with?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Amana bit from tools today - I was honestly really surprised at home much better it was than the 1 inch bits from Amazon toolstoday.com/v-17673-45522.html

[@watchmedo4276]

What bit are you using?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I’m using the Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit It’s honestly the best bit I’ve used for this!

[@ManofLowMoralFiber]

Cool jig. Beats doing it with a chisel.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Absolutely

[@chrisanthony579]

Maybe I'm stating the obvious but A trim router AKA a veneer trimmer isn't the best tool for all routing projects. If you match the bit to RPM to HP and tool weight will end in better results. Also 1/2" router bits tend to cut much smoothly than a 1/4" bits, We only use trim routers for small edge profiles and trimming plastic laminate.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

While I don't disagree with you about matching power, etc, you are wrong about this not being strong enough for this. If you look at most of the smaller CNC's on the market (onefinity, x-carve, openbuilds) they all use trim routers and they do both intricate work and serious stock removal. I think it is important to know the HP - this one is 1.5, which is something I like about it. That being said - I wouldn't be using a trim router to flatten a slab because it would take too long and you cant take enough off per pass for something that size.

[@pecantreedesign]

Nice technique 👍

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! I love this thing

[@pecantreedesign]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I've been wanting to attempt an end grain cutting board, and this will definitely go on the homework list

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@pecantreedesign it makes it so much easier and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than other options!

[@kevintennant4461]

Jus glue a sacrificial piece on the end and send it through thicknesses then cut it off on table saw. Much quicker and easier in my experience

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I honestly don’t like doing that because I have to find a piece the right size, glue the piece on, wait for it to dry, hope it is flat, then cut it off and all that time I’m wasting another piece of wood. It’s just always such a hassle to me. I made this because it is fast and easy to set up and go. I don’t have anything against the gluing up method, it’s just not for me.

[@howler5000]

Nice jig!

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thanks! It’s really useful!

[@facebookmakesmesick]

What if board has slight bow in it? My drum sander won't get it totally flat.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

This definitely would. Just make sure it is shimmed and held in place

[@wcisean]

After 100s through the planer no explosion, will keep planning, but good little jig!

[@vilhelmswoodworking8847]

What bit do you use

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I started using this one from tools today and it has been amazing! Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit

[@jamiepeake7884]

drum sander would really take longer? i like the sled you made and it’s a good video but why lie?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

At 60 grit it takes 5 minutes. Then you will switch to 80 or 100 grit. Which will take 5 minutes. Or you stick to 100 grit. Which will take 15 minutes. This takes about 10-12 minutes. Either way - you are right that now everyone has $1400 for a drum sander.

[@leehurst172]

I'm struggling to reason how the board ends up square. Yes the router is true because it's based off the table via the jig, but isn't the workpiece wonky because of the excess glue? Isn't that the whole reason we're resurfacing it?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It’s a pretty simple idea. If you flatten one side, and it’s smooth, when you flip it over it flattens the other side in relationship to that first side.

[@leehurst172]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork yes, but what about the edges?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@leehurst172 They are square or not. Don’t you cut and square your boards when you are finishing them?

[@leehurst172]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork Okay I understand now. You mentioned sanding as the next step so I was under the impression you were showcasing a completed process.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@leehurst172 sorry- I was just saying that the piece was ready to be sanded

[@danielfridenberger799]

The pores of the Red Oak makes that wood a mistake for use on a cutting boards. Eventually the will fill with nasty odors or bacteria which will be almost impossible to clean properly

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Thank you for posting that - I’m sure there re people who will need to know that. Thankfully there is no red oak in this board. This board is cherry, maple, walnut, and white oak, which is fine for cutting boards

[@indalcecio]

Red oak is so full of tannins it'll never stink. Pores are irrelevant when you're dealing with end grain.

[@MrFancyFingers]

White oak is open grain too, I wouldn’t use it either. They use white oak for wine barrels because it breathes.

[@wcisean]

What about when you have a 3" thick 72" x 120" end grain island top that is 600 lbs? With no cnc!

[@104Woodworks]

You can send it through a planer no problem at all, but this is also another solution if you don't have a planer 😉

[@SethCorbinMusic]

You can plain an end grain cutting board.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Yes you can. But once you have it go bad you don’t want to do it again

[@joenock7183]

I even made a purple heart and zebra wood end grain cutting board and all the planer did was chip up the last part of the board which I ripped off with my crosscut sled and table saw. And you can avoid that by gluing a sacrificial board to the end of the end grain cutting board.

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

What kind of planer do you have?

[@011CJ]

I have made lots of end grain glued cuting bords threw my plainer and jointer no issue

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Ok. I’ve heard from people who have been good and others that have had the same issues.

[@011CJ]

@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork It probably has to do with many factors, but the way toy did it is a great way . I do something simal to making trays with raised borders, and not to mention, a router is a cheap tool most people can afford, unlike a thikness plainer, which is kinda expensive for those just starting out 👍 definitly a usefull vid 😉

[@LeAdri1du40]

Basically made a home made manual CNC for a fraction of the cost

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

Exactly! 🙌

[@donforsey9509]

Can you show the bit? Or just get the widest that you can find? Asking for a friend. lol

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

I use the Amana Tool 45522 Carbide Tipped 1 Dia x 1/4 CH x 1/4 Shk x 1-3/4 Long Spoilboard Surfacing & Flattening 3-Flute Router Bit It’s the best one I have found for a reasonable price

[@cedrics1220]

Is there any way to do it with hand tools? I messed up my board thinking I could plane end grain and cant find a way to properly flatten it since I dont own any electric tools aside from a hand Drill

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

You could try a hand plane but it will be able the same. You could do it with a belt sander, but that will be a ton of work too!

[@cedrics1220]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork a hand plane created this mess in the First place and since I git pits in there due to the plane, I don't think sanding will work because I don't know how to get IT perfectly flat

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

@@cedrics1220 yeah, hand planing, and grain is something that you’re going to need to have very sharp planes with. Get yourself a trim router and this set up and it’s easy. It’s my best advice for you. Sorry.

[@Toorealprod47]

Is sanding it with low grit paper not an option ?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

It is, but it will take forever. Especially since you’ll have to move back up grits. The best option, if you don’t have a drum sander, is a belt sander, which spits out lots of dust and may leave gouges

[@Toorealprod47]

@@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork I agree

[@anwarhijaz06]

Can this be sanded with an orbit sander?

[@NewmanSpecialsWoodwork]

After doing this, yes. You don’t want to try and sand it flat that way. You could use a belt sander but the time to do it and getting it consistent will be hard