Flintlock Rifle Breakdown and Cleaning

Special thanks to Simeon England for sharing his expertise with us!
Visit Our Website! ➧ www.townsends.us/ ➧➧
Help support the channel with Patreon ➧ / townsend ➧➧
Facebook ➧ jas.townsend
Instagram ➧ townsends_official

[@FrikInCasualMode]

Very informative. I never suspected a flintlock is such an intricate piece of mechanism.

[@RanHarasaki]

Me neither, i love it.

[@boomanh63]

Intricate but elegantly simple in as few parts needed to make a functional weapon.

[@danner253]

Not to mention an absolute pain to operate compared to the modern understanding of guns. Most of a soldiers time is just spent looking after his equipment but in a way, that in itself can bring comfort.

[@orckiller91]

BillB1963 glock simplicity before glock lol

[@youmustbethatninja]

All of these guns were hand fitted back in the day. The guys who made them were masters of their craft.

[@g.russell4140]

Been keeping up with Townsends since, ummm, long before the internet. First discovered them through the "Backwoodsman" magazine. Watched about every video they put out. Said that to say this; this is the best video/presentation I've seen to date.

[@pekkaseppala3999]

Yes, this was very unique videos to find. Loads of material about the guns and their history to find on the internet, but this was the first video (for me) that showed actual maintanence.

[@covertops19Z]

I'm subscribing to that magazine.. it's Awesomely Awesome..

[@pulseweld]

When he said out in the field he wasn't joking... He's literally out in the field

[@jimmy5391]

he really do be out in the field

[@FrontierTradingCompany]

Simeon England goes hard. Man is the real deal.

[@mikeschlapp7202]

You should definitely do an era correct firearms series

[@averylividmoose3599]

I'd love to see him go out on an expedition for a week or two and do a like 2 hour video on the whole experience, hunting with flintlocks, surviving in shelters etcetera

[@Valscorn01]

SO MUCH THIS.

[@hillbillysportsman5818]

Please do!

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

He could call it, "Forgotten Weapons"! Oh, wait...

[@Real11BangBang]

@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry lol

[@jamesvatter5729]

Well done! Simeon was a great choice to do this demonstration.

[@lipp1992]

Could you have Simeon do more flintlock videos? The education he provides is fantastic. IDK what I'd do with out this channel, it is bringing me back to my old Revolutionary War days where I would pretend to fight line battles all by myself. Love history.

[@michaelpulcini]

Now that is just plain cool! The presenter really knows what he's talking about too.

[@mr_tibbles_8195]

@Townsends thank you for this informative video.

[@MrKtotheooter]

I have my grandfather's hand-made flintlocks! This video was so educational, I will be cleaning them the proper way from now on!

[@southronjr1570]

A tip to remove the lock plate, leaving the lock screws in place after unscrewing them, thread them back in 1 complete turn, then lightly tap on the heads of the 2 screws, first 1 then the other going back and forth until the lock plate has come out past the in letting of the wood. By leaving the screws 1 turn in, it will keep the lock plate from falling on the ground. You would not believe how many lock inlet repairs I have had to do because the fit up was tight and newer shooters would pry the lock out wih the hammer or frizzen. Also a tip for cleaning after a fairly extensive shooting session, place a piece of leather or cloth patch down occluded the touch hole and letting the frizzen down to seal the touch hole. Take a coffee pot wih heated water, the hotter the better but keep in mind you will most lokely spill it so not so hot as to burn skin. Angling the gun about 45 degrees with the lock plate facing down, pour the hot water down the bore and once filled, let set for a few moments ad then tilt the barrel upto empty the barrel. Do this several times until the water comes out clean. This will greatly reduce the amount of tow or patches you will have to use to clean your gun. Also, the water that will seep out of the touch hole will soften the dry powder hat has accumulated on and in the lock making cleanup of that even easier. As and fyi, I have been shooting competition black powder since 1995 in the N-SSA and have been gunsmithing/building black powder guns for about as long. If you ever get a chance to attend a skirmish, you will lilly enjoy yourself and join, now you can't say I didn't warn you.

[@jameskirk7042]

I use the coffee pot a lot when I clean mine but I never thought to seal the nipple, I only have percussion rifles at the moment, and let it sit for a bit. I always plunger it and force the water out of the nipple or put the breech in a bucket of hot water and plunger it in and out. I’m going to try your way next time, I appreciate you putting it out there.

[@milomilkman]

if you could do a short video that would be greatly appreciated!

[@Cadwaladr]

Not knowing much about guns, I was looking at a Civil War era musket one time and I wondered why there was a threaded bit on the end of the ramrod, but it makes perfect sense that you'd use that to attach a cleaning tool. Great video.

[@merpius]

Potentially it could also be used to thread into the storage so that the rod won't come loose during firing.

[@mrs.schmenkman]

Ok. I only watched because it's Townsends. No Interest in this subject before ...but NOW I think it's fascinating. Consider your work done #townsends

[@averylividmoose3599]

The thread also accepts grenade launchers and suppressors

[@Americae_Primum]

Along with a cleaning tool (a jag), a worm puller (to remove any stuck patches inside the bore) and a ball/bullet puller were also used and threaded on to the end of the ramrod.

[@lmaolmoo4147]

@@mrs.schmenkman you should watch capandball. He shoots many blackpowder firearms going back to the 1400s with with handgonnes

[@daveyjoweaver5183]

An excellent lesson on gun maintainance. Today we don't realize how important this was in surviving the back country or even on the farm. Thank You Kindly! DaveyJO in Pa.

[@Carnivorous_Patriot]

I requested this exact video about 6 months to a year ago. I was so happy when I saw it. I own many black powder muskets, rifles, and revolvers. And it is always good to see how people clean their black powder arms. Small differences with so many people. But overall the same. Great video!

[@GlassArtist07]

A very nicely done video - thanks Jon and the whole Townsends crew! Simeon England delivers in a nice, low-key fashion a good bit of his expertise, demonstrating that there was far more involved with a flintlock than just stoking powder down the bore. Glad to see his use of his apron as a convenient location to position his parts while working on the rifle - also noticed his bare feet! It's clear he was in no mood to suddenly jump up and start running after another bear! (grin)

[@douglasmaccullagh1267]

Very helpful. I wish I had this kind of information years ago. Thank you Mr. England and Mr. Townsend!

[@joelucas7052]

Great vids, been watching for about 2 or 3 years

[@joshuabuzzard3074]

Mr Townsend. I just wanted to say i am a big fan of your channel and i was a bit starstruck when i saw you walking up to your station at the missinawa 1812 reenactment.

[@blackknight9156]

It is nice to see people keeping the old skills of history alive.

[@jamesellsworth9673]

Fine and practical instruction at a level I have not seen before. I have not seen the spring vise before, nor understood its use.

[@Guyote_]

Great video Simeon! That was awesome to watch

[@EIixir]

Great demonstration. I was really surprised when he opened the stock and revealed what was inside.

[@jamietyree8439]

Wonderful video, Mr. England!

[@simeonengland8719]

Thank you sir!

[@k.j.lindsey3048]

Great informative video. I have removed the lock to clean it, but haven’t actually disassembled the lock. Thanks for this!

[@wadelomax7621]

I've watched many many many videos of Flint lock and other mussle loaded guns this is the best I've ever seen.. thanks

[@jedtattum9996]

always a pleasure to see someone who knows what they are doing.

[@catchy_tune]

*he is doing

[@Bildgesmythe]

It must have been nerve wracking to do when your life depended on that gun and there were few shops to buy parts.

[@Bildgesmythe]

@Amy Sternheim Exactly, loose a small part in the dirt, you would be looking, desperately, for a long time. No getting on line and getting it delivered to your door. You had to be tough and smart back then.

[@bobbyharper8710]

Having it all apart in pieces and hearing someone or something approach.

[@Bildgesmythe]

@Edward Weigle lost a screw doing lawnmower repair. I tried a magnet, I was very glad I could go to a parts department lol.

[@cmans79tr7]

@@bobbyharper8710 - or "forget" and stand up with the parts still on your lap😫

[@averylividmoose3599]

@Amy Sternheim you probably knew this but it's the same reason why rifled barrels were rare and expensive as the rifling had to be done by hand essentially

[@johnfessenden3771]

Very clear and simple instructions for a task of great importance. Thank you!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Great setting, great topic, great outfits. Happy Holidays!

[@hasdrubal121]

Brilliant, I never thought that there was that much inside the mechanism. Thanks for sharing

[@JeffGloverArts]

Outstanding demonstration! Thank you!

[@matthewminiatt8810]

Thank you for the video on this subject. I appreciate the work that goes into proper maintenance of any weapon. While volunteering at Fort Stawix ,as a solder in the third NY, I always cleaned my Charleville musket , or cannon, after firing demonstration. One piece of information I would like to pass on though. The term "frizen" is technically correct when referring to the part of the lock that the flint strikes upon to excite sparks into the pan. However, this term wasn't used until early in the nineteenth century. Before then, this part of the lock was refereed to as the "hammer", and included a safety feature known as the "hammer stall". The hammer stall was usually made of two small pieces of rawhide sewn together to make a cover that was slipped over the hammer to prevent sparks from igniting the powder. During firing procedure, the hammer stall was the last thing to come off the lock while making ready before firing, and first thing to go back on after firing. Also, black powder is an accelerant , not an explosive. Fun fact.

[@Crazyirishfan]

This is a excellent video on the care and field maintenance for reenactment or primitive black powder hunters. I like how he explains why to tighten the screws to certain tightness. Attention to details is what keeps these guns running for so long. This guy obviously has been around these type of guns for some time.

[@mbr5742]

Thanks for the Video. Answered a lot of questions about "how they did it before breach loaders" that I had

[@banjowoodsman7675]

Best description of tear down and cleaning I have watched. Like the way you went through the lock parts. You know your business. Thank you

[@davanders2006]

I am glad you did this video. I am getting a flintlock in March most likely and was wondering how they cleaned them in the past. Can you put links for the bear oil and the thatch used for cleaning the rifle? I have become a very big fan of this channel. It has made me want to do historical reenactment. Thanks.

[@MrKmoconne]

He is showing you how they would clean the bore in the 18th century. There are more modern and thorough methods that use a cleaning jag and cloth patches soaked in a mixture of water and water soluble oil. I'm not sure where you would buy flax (meant tow) for re enactment cleaning.

[@simeonengland8719]

David Anderson, the tow can be purchased from major suppliers, Townsend may sell it. The bear oil you have to get from an individual, but it is available.

[@carlruf9037]

David...Please try to get into the reenactment/living history scene. The hobby needs new folks. A lot of us have retired from it for one reason or another....but personally I think people can get involved into their nineties. Civilian impressions are always appreciated along with the military ones. Remember the patriot Burns at the Battle of Gettysburg? He was in his seventies when he volunteered to fight with the Union troops and was seen carrying a cut-down old flintlock while donning an era 1812 - 1820 swallow tail coat.

[@davanders2006]

@@carlruf9037 I do want to do reenactment/ living history. I live in Kentucky and I have yet to find who to contact to see how to get into it. I have been at Gettysburg, Battle of Perryville, and Boonesborough only as a spectator and I do like history and I decided to try it. I would appreciate any information to help me get started.

[@infoscholar5221]

Now this is good information. Keeping old ways alive, wonderful to witness.

[@griffin5226]

Doing this on grass? This man must have the utmost confidence in himself.

[@ddogg14]

@@SonsOfLorgar and then you were ordered to spend the next six months cutting down all the grass in sweden until you found it

[@averylividmoose3599]

@@SonsOfLorgar not gonna lie I thought you said FN MAG and a tear formed in my eye remembering Rhodesia

[@twisted1in66]

It's actually stupid to tear apart the lock like that in the field. At home on a bench one or twice a year - sure. In the field, no way. Way too easy to screw up the lock or lose one of those small pieces, plus, you don't need to disassemble it to clean and oil it.

[@philspaces7213]

Dan Gracia What do you have failed to realize is that these guns often needed a strip down in the woods. People using these guns often didn’t have a desk job where they could criticize people by day, and work on guns in the basement on a bench by night

[@kaidenrigg3683]

Simeon is an expert in this, he has done it on trips in the woods so many times that he doesn’t really worry about it!

[@debiesubaugher]

Great demonstration

[@milomilkman]

Very informative! thank you. I will be returning to this video many times

[@wanderer7755]

Living history. Fascinating, thank you

[@ericathefae]

I appreciate the detailed walk through - this was really cool to watch (also for one who'll probably never shoot a rifle like that).

[@carlruf9037]

John...Great vid. Very informative. Early next year, I will be placing an order for a custom 62 cal. smooth bore fowler. Large Round faced English Lock, dark walnut finish, Chambers fancy side plate, brass furniture, Georgian relief carving, and 51 inch barrel. Can't wait. Will post pics, when done. Again, thanks for your channel in bringing the 18th century to life. Esp. like the tavern recipes.

[@ChacoteOutdoorRecreation]

Some things require no words, the look of a Mother holding a new born, the old couple holding hands in their final moments together, some things can not be explained only felt, small stabs deep into the soul are remembered longer than words.But your voice gives me hope and puts joy into a heart that often knows only despair as my rescue cat (Mr. Poopie) bravely struggles with type 2 feline diabetes and depression coupled with PTSD.

[@scottk0623]

What a great video. Thank you

[@cbtri15]

Great video. One of the best I've seen on fire lock cleaning. I assume it was an omission but no corrosion protection was applied to the bore after cleaning. I assume he would have used tallow but sweet oil and foot oil were also used.

[@TheSuzberry]

This is inspiring. I do not own a gun. But, I do own mechanical equipment that needs regular maintenance.

[@DDamiani87]

I like these. Please do more involved with the hunting types and practices if you can. No pressure not demanding. I appreciate what you do and the time it must take do it.

[@peterriboni3889]

AWESOME VIDEO!! THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

[@sunlightpictures8367]

So many intricate parts. I had no idea. Very educational.

[@joyceengland6939]

AWESOME!!!!Very informative!.You've got it Man.

[@Podunk82]

cleaning a gun back then is just as relaxing as it is now. Nice Vid!!!!

[@_FNQ]

Brilliant production. Many thanks for posting.

[@griffin5226]

In Daniel Defoe's book "A Tour Through the Whole Island of Great Britain - 1724-26" he references a steel pen, "...and it will bear writing on it with a pencil or steel pen." The British Museum as well as the Museum of London have a few examples of metals pens from the renaissance and earlier periods but what would a metal pen from the 1700s look like? I'm interested in reproducing a copy and reporting back the writing experience. Any information about the style referenced in the book would be highly appreciated.

[@CherokeeTwilight]

You can “ boil the barrel out” (flush with hot water) then run dry patches, and then a oiled one to finish. Long term storage you can run a big gob of grease and run it all the way down with a patch and leave it , patch and all, then remove patch and clean the barrel before you go shooting.

[@matthewgronemus8186]

As a Navy surface officer i have always been curious about how a ship pulls into port onto a pier. Today we use this but I never knew how a sailing ship could pull up onto a pier without hitting something or grounding a ship. I tried to ask the modern day sailors of the USA CONSTITUTION but they said they use this too.

[@matthewgronemus8186]

*use tugs

[@michaelhunt6388]

Wow! Very interesting about how our grandfathers lived. The Genders Studies BA's today have about 1/1000th of the spine they needed to survive.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

Fantastic presentation

[@southronjr1570]

A tip to get the lock out without dingng the edges of the lock inlet is to back the screws all the way out and then put them back in a half turn and then gently tap both lock screws alternating one then the other until the lock is out of the stock. Once it is free you can use your fingers to unscrew the lock screws the rest of the way. The process is much the same as you removed the tumbler from the hammer. If you happen to be in a match where they check your trigger weight, tightening the bridle screws down tih will allow you to have a heavier trigger pull for a few shots before they loosen up again. Warm water is what I have found to most effectively clean the powder fouling, just be sure to dry the metal thoroughly before you oil it up again. Ballistol does a decent job of cleaning the fouling but since it is a water soluble oil, if you oil your gun with it, it can rust on you if you are in a humid environment.

[@MrTweaver500]

I have a flintlock pistol. I was told that do to the sooty build up left by black powder ignition, you MUST to clean it after every shoot! The soot is absorbent and will pull moisture out of the air. The sulfur in black Bel powder is corrosive, the combination will rapidly rust and pit the gun if it's left on there for days at a time. I clean mine at the end of the day shooting. Believe it or not ,it's I do it in the kitchen sink with soap and warm water.

[@DanielLarsonofficia]

The fact that I own my great great great grandfather civil war gun now and u posted this video makes me happy I can maitnece it

[@kfeltenberger]

Regarding how often they would clean the rifle, I would think that it would be more often than "when it gets difficult to load" due to black powder's corrosive nature. Since a rifle would be a major investment for many people, I would think that they would err on the side of caution and clean it after every firing, or at least every day that it was fired. Perhaps not a detail cleaning like was shown, but certainly cleaning the barrel and such.

[@al_p]

I agree - at a time when a rifle could cost the equivalent of an average man's wage, they wouldn't risk a rusted bore. Leave a fired black powder gun for even a few days in a humid environment and it can be irreparably damaged. I have never met a single black powder enthusiast who leaves cleaning until "it gets difficult to load".

[@hillbillysportsman5818]

I have used muzzleloaders for years and have always wondered how in that time period they dealt with rust in the bore. In this demonstration he did not put any thing in the barrel to prevent rust.

[@assassinaria]

I hear the gun metal was browned to prevent more serious rusting

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

👍👍 thanks for sharing, great video. Fred

[@mrs.schmenkman]

Ok. I only watched because it's Townsends. No Interest in this subject before ...but NOW I think it's fascinating. Consider your work done #townsends

[@simeonengland8719]

That's quite a statement. Thank you!

[@simeonengland8719]

Townsend does a good job with these

[@lovemesomeslippers]

I thought I had no interest in guns but I was fascinated! Thanks for this presentation.

[@xDXPxJOEx456x1]

There is nothing wrong with not being interested in firearms. You should give things a shot you normally would not find interesting and chances are you will find them interesting. Last night I watched an interview with a woman with multiple personality disorder. I don't have an interest in psychology but It was interesting and a bit disturbing to see a normal woman just become to someone else just by asking them to.

[@mattwilcox3645]

Bear Grease is the only thing available for oil or grease back then so often. It was used for so many things including medicine. Even back then people would use military surplus, which for example was Harper's Ferry........

[@thewombat8039]

I just fired and cleaned my new fowler, this is a great tutorial.

[@swampy7889]

Excellent! Great information.

[@Rouverius]

Thanks for this.

[@P_RO_]

I'd heard of "tow" but never knew where it came from. And I always wondered why the "worm" was longer than what was needed to retrieve cloth patches; I'd always heard it called a "patch worm". Remembering the times and places involved here, there weren't many sources for greases and oils save for those you obtained yourself. Animals were about the only source for this outside of towns and cities, and even then many people couldn't afford them from commercial sources.

[@thatsthewayitgoes9]

Lots of good advice

[@TwentythreePER]

That is a beautiful rifle. Is it handmade? Replica or antique? These old smokepoles will always have a special place in my heart. I used to shoot at the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association but not primitively but I always wanted to. Anyone who has shot muzzleloaders knows how much work they are but they can be very enjoyable. I would love to get some buckskins or other period clothing and equipment to shoot the primitive there. I've also always wanted to build a rifle either from a kit or otherwise. Great video, very informative.

[@simeonengland8719]

Thank you. I made this rifle :)

[@P_RO_]

If you happen across one of the older Dixie Gunworks catalogs, you'll find tons of info about building your own period-correct guns. Not sure if that still applies as my last one was from the 70's. When you consider how much work, time, and skill it takes to make a long rifle stock by hand then fit the parts to it, you'll have an appreciation of the craftsmen who made them.

[@TwentythreePER]

@@simeonengland8719 It looks old but very elegant. The lockwork seemed tight and the overall gun looked well maintained but used. She's a beauty for sure. Thank you

[@TwentythreePER]

@@P_RO_ I think they still have stuff online, Track Of The Wolf is another company I hear a lot about.

[@simeonengland8719]

@@TwentythreePER , thank you. My goal is exactly that. Used, but taken care of in a historical way. I'm glad you enjoyed the video

[@jeffengland2791]

Very cool.

[@CarolusInciusEtScoti]

How often do you recommend disassembling and cleaning the lock as you teach here? I always clean the bore after every time I go shooting. Should I also be cleaning the lock like you do here as much? or is it less frequent? You said your gun was clean for a couple of more weeks... How often should I clean my Flintlock? I am used to modern guns and I clean them each time. How much cleaning is needed for a flintlock? Thank you. this channel is indispensable and very informative.

[@tacticaltonto3777]

Great info video..!! Thanks for sharing.

[@williamlockhart5031]

Excellent video!

[@robertrowan4586]

Great video, I always wanted to shoot one. I have a few rifles but a flintlock one would be awesome to add to my collection

[@wintersburgoutback6485]

Thank You for providing this information!

[@charleswoolum6461]

Fantastic video thank you

[@pubu2010]

Nice job, two questions: 1 Do you put anything in the barrel to protect it and stop corrosion? 2 How much shooting do you get to do? You said good for a couple weeks. How much shooting is that? I have a Thompson Center Hawken. Trying to keep it as nice as possible, but used.

[@dreehc12]

How do I know which flint size to choose from! I inherited a .45 Kentucky Long Rifke w/leather bag, black powder horn, etc. the trigger & all looks great! Only problem is getting ammo & replacing the flint! It was in the jaws when I got it, but must have fallen out. I am not sure if I should buy a 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, etc..

[@bottlesparks1024]

I love your channel, I always look for your videos in my feed. :)

[@lifeisshortsomoveon1405]

We just step back in history.

[@ronphillips6336]

If I remember correctly, excess oil helps ward off corrosion from the black powder.

[@stephaniewilson3955]

'Wheat from chaff' is nothing to do with 'tow' which is the broken bits of flax that you get when processing the plant to make linen thread. It is useless for spinning thread but useful for things like this.

[@kevinmolett3139]

I didn't hear Simeon mention anything about running some oil or grease down the barrel after he used the dry tow inside the barrel. Without it, won't the barrel start to rust? I always run just a light coat of oil in the barrel and before I load the gun the next time I will run a dry patch or dry tow down the barrel before loading.

[@kxd2591]

Thanks for posting. I really enjoyed this video. Lots of good info here. But may I ask, did you make the small 'hawk? And if purchased, may I ask where? I would really like to have one of those.

[@simeonengland8719]

I did make the belt axe, and I do make them to sell. Please contact me via email or fb. Thanks

[@patriciawilson605]

Amazing !!!!!!!!! Great to see history of how men and Annie oaklley took care of their guns.👍🏻

[@troynov1965]

Back in the 70s I had a friend whos father made Flintlock rifles and sold them ( in Texas ) their last name was Boltinghouse.

[@billsummy2412]

AWESOME

[@natmorse-noland9133]

Very informative! Flintlock guns are way more complicated than I thought. I noticed that he put some dry tow down the bore "because the water is cold". Why would one not want to use dry tow immediately after using warm water?

[@SupaThePink]

Personally, I'd still use a dry patch after hot water just be safe, but it isn't strictly necessary. The amount of water absorbed into the patch is really pretty tiny, so the patch only leaves a very thin layer of moisture inside the barrel. Such a thin layer of hot water evaporates pretty quickly, so a dry patch isn't needed to get rid of it to prevent rusting. Cold water doesn't evaporate nearly as easily, so you have to get rid of it yourself so the bore doesn't rust out.

[@raharuaharu5646]

I'd love to see more videos in this vein, how to maintain old tech and firearms

[@rabbitt83]

Mr Townsends thank u the rifle u just cleaned is it a Kentucky long rifle. And can u hit a target at 300 yards

[@simeonengland8719]

This is a style rifle that comes from Virginia. I have not shot this one at 300 yards, but have hit 18" targets at 233 yards standing. Hope this helps

[@gawasi8897]

Thanks for this video! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone break it down as well. How do you get the Bear oil to stay “liquid”?

[@simeonengland8719]

The bear oil is rendered down and filtered until it runs pretty clear. It truly is in an oil state

[@Me-ob5qc]

Where’d ya find that little oil bottle?

[@darel470]

Awesome!

[@davidb8872]

Like to see more of this kind of vid it would have better if we had seen some close up shots, thanks

[@Paralytixc]

Very cool!

[@SteveAubrey1762]

I seldom "field strip" my piece in the field for fear of losing a screw or some other part. For extended time afield, I will lay an oiled cloth out and disassemble the weapon on that . I put any small screws/parts in a small tin and that goes into the shooting bag. I dont disassemble the lock.

[@southernwanderer7912]

Very interesting.