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Flipping a Super Cub in Alaska's Backcountry

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Airframes Alaska

Airframes Alaska

4 жыл бұрын

Our fearless leader at Airframes Alaska talks about his experience crashing his Super Cub during takeoff. This video was created for an FAA seminar with Northern Pioneer Helicopter, which helped provide the recovery efforts. We are sharing this video as a reminder to use extra caution as pilots descend upon the backcountry this fall.
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@pattysullivan184
@pattysullivan184 3 жыл бұрын
So impressive, humble pilot and CEO, shares mistakes so others learn after he cartwheels his plane. Failure is an adventure!
@bushflyersdownunder8565
@bushflyersdownunder8565 4 жыл бұрын
Great work! Love it when people put their egos aside and admit to their mistakes so others can learn. We all screw up here and there, sometimes we are lucky enough to get away with it, other times we arnt
@BroadHeadedAK
@BroadHeadedAK Жыл бұрын
Great to see a humble person willing to take a difficult experience and use it as an educational opportunity for others. Great video!
@richardcollins3825
@richardcollins3825 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you sharing this video. I look for these little gems to help myself learn and truly be a better pilot. Glad to see you walk away unscathed!!
@mikekazmark8227
@mikekazmark8227 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your having putting other people's learning from your experience ahead of your pride. Your humility will enable other people to be aware in similar circumstances and may save someone's life. Glad you are okay as well. Had a dear friend die when their tricycle gear flipped over after hitting something on a beach takeoff in Alaska. They went to pick wild strawberries and came back to the plane with 5 quarts of berries but never made it home. I worked with her in the fish cannery and she was loved by everyone.
@krissfemmpaws1029
@krissfemmpaws1029 4 жыл бұрын
Not many pilots will admit when they mess up. My hats off to you for admitting you messed up. Target fixation happens many forms. Dad warned me about it when I started to learn to fly.
@mikekazmark8227
@mikekazmark8227 3 жыл бұрын
Learning about this from my ultralight instructor has made me a better driver as well. Especially at night.
@z987k
@z987k 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute amateurs don't share their mistakes maybe, but the NASA ASRS program is an amazing success and a benefit to anyone who partakes.
@deimos2k6
@deimos2k6 2 жыл бұрын
So, you are telling me pilots usually are liars? That's kinda strange attitude, people who lies shouldn't be allowed to fly. Even to drive,
@krissfemmpaws1029
@krissfemmpaws1029 2 жыл бұрын
@@deimos2k6 yeah many are like you, they don't publicly admit to their mess ups or mistakes. So when you don't own up to your mistakes are you not also a liar?
@burtvincent1278
@burtvincent1278 Жыл бұрын
Most pilots wouldn't admit any error. Good job analyzing what happened to improve everyone's chances of avoiding mistakes like this again.
@laszlovass7326
@laszlovass7326 3 жыл бұрын
The old guy at the end has seen and fixed it all.:)
@coasterbrookie
@coasterbrookie 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! What a stellar gentleman for taking us through the process of what happened. Glad the plane survived!
@gordonpeden6234
@gordonpeden6234 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm not a pilot but I do know it takes a 'Big man' to admit his mistakes. By doing so you are helping others not to make the same mistake. Thanks............ Respect!
@gregghorrell7379
@gregghorrell7379 3 жыл бұрын
Admire the narrative and, especially, your wisdom to helicopter it out! Great guidance to viewers!👍
@AkPacerPilot
@AkPacerPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I truly believe that helps others learn. There was one comment you mentioned about you should of pulled the power.... no no no! You loose the air going over the tail, which will prevent you from planting that tail. While not in water, I hit a soft spot at Friday creek a few years ago during breakup. I pulled power and tried to plant the tail but had absolutely no elevator authority without the prop blast. My advice, would be plant the tail and slowly pull the power, the key thing pulling that stick back all the way, keep some power in until you are pretty much a slow taxi speed.
@jemo_hack
@jemo_hack 3 жыл бұрын
Gutted to hear and see the incident. Glad you are OK... I guess you are a better pilot today! 💪
@gosnellktn
@gosnellktn 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing. excellent video, it didn't leave unanswered questions. very helpful. pilots perspective is the key piece of info in this video. thank you for your candor.
@keithrogers5832
@keithrogers5832 4 жыл бұрын
I only had a single curled prop and you got both. Afterwards I often thought about if I had used the starter to bring the prop to level I could have saved it 🤔 I guess you just had to be there. I'm really glad both of us are able to laugh about our own mistakes.
@deanmiles3505
@deanmiles3505 3 жыл бұрын
Lessons can come at a very expensive cost in aviation. At least nobody got hurt. Thank you for sharing your video. Take care, Be safe.
@jonrau5988
@jonrau5988 3 жыл бұрын
We all learned about flying because of what you shared. Thank you!
@keithmantey1940
@keithmantey1940 3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Thanks for sharing a difficult day! Keith @ Gwin’s Lodge Roadhouse and Cabins in Cooper Landing Alaska
@lanceboyett9034
@lanceboyett9034 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo on being able to point out that it was your mistake. Not many ppl can set aside egos. Thank you for posting this video, it shows character & someone wanting to pass on a learning experience. Cheers fr Kasilof.
@deimos2k6
@deimos2k6 2 жыл бұрын
are you saying that usually your people are boastful liars and with too much ego? That's funny. Usually a pilot who messes up in that way we shut off his mouth here, no matter he wants to admit anything or not.
@JohnRobertson22
@JohnRobertson22 3 жыл бұрын
7:31 talk about STOL!! jokes aside, I’m glad you and your bird are okay. Thanks for making this a learning experience.
@1212CRMD
@1212CRMD 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and a lesson shared is mistake avoided. I avoided real bad accident by paying good attention to other pilots shared experiences. Thank you!
@bernardanderson3758
@bernardanderson3758 3 жыл бұрын
You walked away sir and thank God that you didn’t get hurt through this incident
@paulhendershott667
@paulhendershott667 Жыл бұрын
Too funny at the end! Glad you're ok and, as always, learned something valuable!
@howler580
@howler580 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not many people would admit they were wrong and let alone, show it in a video. Many should learn from this one as you did. Thanks for sharing
@laszlovass7326
@laszlovass7326 3 жыл бұрын
Rarely do people share their mistakes. Thank you, I learned and so many others will too.
@chucksmith9772
@chucksmith9772 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this lesson. Glad your ok.
@rossilake218
@rossilake218 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Us lower 48 pilots totally understand. Those improvised runways are the problem. I like the riverbed runways best in Alaska. Minor damage, no injuries, good to fly another day.Life is Good!
@garrycompton7214
@garrycompton7214 5 ай бұрын
Good video - my homestead was in Yenlo Mts. , just north of the Talchulitna R. - Yep gets a little Soggy in that high country sometimes. Cub looked pretty good afterall.
@MsRandiCook
@MsRandiCook 4 жыл бұрын
Just glad you are OK.
@stephenhair5501
@stephenhair5501 3 жыл бұрын
I soloed a J3 Cub many years ago. What a fun aircraft to fly! Not a Super Cub, but a Cub none the less. Never joined the Ground Loop or Cartwheel Club, but was very aware of how quickly it can happen. You were very open and honest and thanks for sharing. Glad things worked out as they did.
@marcericdavis
@marcericdavis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Very helpful.
@captaingregger
@captaingregger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the lesson for us all
@AlaskaRog
@AlaskaRog 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story.
@OlneyaTesota
@OlneyaTesota 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Good see the SC in the air again.
@salvatorerizzo8792
@salvatorerizzo8792 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It's good educational training video
@davidmbucklewministr
@davidmbucklewministr 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining. How much did it cost for the helicopter to fly it out of there?
@gilvietor1918
@gilvietor1918 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this.
@ragheadand420roll
@ragheadand420roll 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best way to learn Thx Glad ur ok
@billtozerrealtor7331
@billtozerrealtor7331 Жыл бұрын
Cartwheel club! LOL. Well done and thanks for sharing.
@MrFilmtech
@MrFilmtech 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@mantlepowers4781
@mantlepowers4781 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this , Being a pilot has humbled me from time to time as well. Heck some days I swear I forget how to land. After watching this I think maybe flying from the back seat might be a good thing when taking off from a very soft field , I'm gonna practice. I'll make a video just in case it goes badly.
@srnunan4783
@srnunan4783 3 жыл бұрын
As long as once you're airborne you don't end up too far aft on c of g!
@deimos2k6
@deimos2k6 2 жыл бұрын
No one forces you to get airborne. You can also stay at home and save your life, instead of flying and forgetting how and where to land. Have you some problems with memory?
@chrisgreenhagen1717
@chrisgreenhagen1717 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok.
@EllsAviationRepair
@EllsAviationRepair Жыл бұрын
Cartwheel Club in PA 12; lost power over the Kenai Moose Range--landing looked great until we slowed enough for the wheels to sink onto the water.
@KTWardlaw
@KTWardlaw 5 ай бұрын
You walked away….🙏😎👍🏼 Would be great to know the total cost for recovering the craft and putting it back in service…?
@Flightoffour
@Flightoffour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@jstar1000
@jstar1000 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was a bush pilot in Alaska from the early 70s to the late 90s or so. He flipped a Cessna 120 or a Lescomb (I can't remember which now) on a sandbar, the wheels dug in on the landing and it slowly flipped over. No one was hurt though.
@dabneyoffermein595
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
holy cow, how did they get it out and did you ever get your PPL?
@jstar1000
@jstar1000 Жыл бұрын
@@dabneyoffermein595 He went in with a friend that does metal work and the repaired it and flew it out. I guess since it was metal and not fabric, that would be the Lescomb correct? I never did get my license.
@kenstewart5991
@kenstewart5991 7 ай бұрын
Yah new engine and prop but I saw surprisingly little Airframe damage, even to rudder. Was there ANY Airframe damage?
@williamfox4521
@williamfox4521 Жыл бұрын
Yea, that rough ass hay field looks like a great choice of places to fly off from.
@CM-lk6du
@CM-lk6du 3 жыл бұрын
Love these advanced 'propellerlets' to avoid tip vortices...
@arcticcowboy8659
@arcticcowboy8659 Жыл бұрын
So what’s the cost of a helicopter tow run now?
@radioace318la
@radioace318la 2 жыл бұрын
man, so sorry. that made me throw up a little bit. How far out of the crank after the strike?
@pilotpeego1820
@pilotpeego1820 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone say engine overhaul? Ouch!
@dabneyoffermein595
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
was that last guy in the video an A & P guy? he was a hoot
@Negative-9
@Negative-9 4 жыл бұрын
What's the hourly rate on a Huey? Oof. Glad you're okay!
@peredavi
@peredavi 3 жыл бұрын
It’s about a $10,000 trip.
@olympiashorts
@olympiashorts 2 ай бұрын
You mentioned that you should have aborted the takeoff but then what would your options have been at that point? I can't imagine that there is anything a guy could do to improve the runway conditions. Was it just going to continue to get wetter there or does that terrain dry out that time of year? I see that it snowed in the intervening 3 weeks. Do you ever have to leave a plane until it snows and then put skis on it to get out of situations like this?
@haggeoromero
@haggeoromero 3 ай бұрын
You got a great story to tell though!
@bernardanderson3758
@bernardanderson3758 3 жыл бұрын
Great team
@bobbean4702
@bobbean4702 3 жыл бұрын
Always full stick back in soft conditions. -another thing... big tires are no good in snow, they create more drag. Been there, done that. Western NY where REAL snow falls.
@terry12327
@terry12327 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I waited for the ending of the Video of how the airplane got home! That was some vertical takeoff there to get it HOME...
@MichaelSmith-zh2px
@MichaelSmith-zh2px 3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@lurking0death
@lurking0death 3 жыл бұрын
The very last line is a gem. All's well that ends...expensively.
@deimos2k6
@deimos2k6 2 жыл бұрын
staying at home is cheaper
@garyfischer4357
@garyfischer4357 3 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Huey to the rescue.
@onthemoney7237
@onthemoney7237 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@timadolphson6971
@timadolphson6971 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you keep trying to get.the tail up???
@michaelrobertson8795
@michaelrobertson8795 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I hope everybody's okay that's an awesome freaking plane hope it's still good
@m118lr
@m118lr 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, no ego. Shouldn’t ridicule or judge OTHERS mishaps..unless you like eating ‘crow’.
@Maxid1
@Maxid1 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing in a F4U Corsair. It was an RC plane so not nearly as expensive to flip.
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 10 ай бұрын
Really some fields are rotary wing only. Even short take off aircraft have limits.
@MichaelSmith-zh2px
@MichaelSmith-zh2px 3 жыл бұрын
When it rains it pours. A combination of factors in this situation
@briancarroll3288
@briancarroll3288 4 ай бұрын
That cost you some money !!!! Nice work getting it out from there.
@mustanggun
@mustanggun 9 ай бұрын
I'm a member of the club. It sure is humbling.
@hughezzell10000
@hughezzell10000 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the final tally on the bill for this was.
@mopoweruponlyup5032
@mopoweruponlyup5032 3 жыл бұрын
$11456.50
@adampayne962
@adampayne962 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I love the Huey!
@McGyverPilot
@McGyverPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Well the error to me is so understandable I imagine there will be pilots, even after seeing this, making similar mistakes due to the very narrow margin of error these circumstances command. But my real question here is the damage did not appear terrible. In other words what could have prevented you from replacing the propeller onsite and flying it out of there? Anything? The helicopter transport and all could not have been the cheapest solution.
@winoseti
@winoseti 9 ай бұрын
having a winch on the plane to pull you up hills to a proper take off area
@mauleguy
@mauleguy 3 жыл бұрын
Cheapest insurance = 35" ABW :)
@dinok5134
@dinok5134 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@airframesalaska8030
@airframesalaska8030 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, thanks for watching.
@TOURMANBOB
@TOURMANBOB 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine what it cost you to have a chopper carry you out
@websitesthatneedanem
@websitesthatneedanem 3 жыл бұрын
8:04 - What's that mounted on the wing?
@DanasWings
@DanasWings 3 жыл бұрын
It's a rifle case.
@skycowboyak4549
@skycowboyak4549 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Might be a good time to throw on an 0-360!
@outlawchop-shop7468
@outlawchop-shop7468 4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is so far from standard soft field takeoff! At least you have learned an expensive lesson.
@pauleyplay
@pauleyplay 3 жыл бұрын
Well said !
@jimchandler6744
@jimchandler6744 11 ай бұрын
I'll bet that cost you a buck or three to get back home. I did the same to the prop on mu Stinson in an off field landing in El Paso back in '96, except only to one side.
@wuya99559
@wuya99559 Жыл бұрын
31s? 8241?
@spurgear4
@spurgear4 3 жыл бұрын
That's some expensive moose right there. Glad you got it home
@Maxid1
@Maxid1 2 жыл бұрын
That profile works really well on wing tips Not so much on props...
@blitznone1142
@blitznone1142 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I landed on pavement, with tundra tires, I bounced for a mile!
@travisturner2914
@travisturner2914 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great lesson learned. I’ll be looking out for those wet fields and practicing aborted take offs more as I get more experience in the bush.
@MichaelSmith-zh2px
@MichaelSmith-zh2px 3 жыл бұрын
Happens to the best of us It's not if it's when
@daveconway9867
@daveconway9867 3 жыл бұрын
Just soooooo freaking happy that nobody got hurt.....
@bobczz3919
@bobczz3919 3 жыл бұрын
That's the new experimental winglet prop..LOL
@NO--BS.
@NO--BS. 2 жыл бұрын
😂"We just need a cape and we can mount it as a full curl". 😂
@chrisparker9886
@chrisparker9886 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest risk, that tall grass. Abborted take off is just as important as the Abborted landing.
@georgecothran4760
@georgecothran4760 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you weren’t hurt.
@scotthorton7786
@scotthorton7786 3 жыл бұрын
Was in perfect flight configuration for landing in.......Australia.
@Juhujalp
@Juhujalp 3 жыл бұрын
Airplane crash in Australia: Crew accidentally land right side up after 12 hour flight
@buckshot8226
@buckshot8226 5 ай бұрын
I've done some flying in the Alaskan bush, my eye is not untrained and it strains to see this "runway" he speaks of.
@Miner-2016
@Miner-2016 3 жыл бұрын
Очень замечательный краш у нас тоже такие ....умеьцы имеются..
@f-xdemers2825
@f-xdemers2825 6 ай бұрын
Shit happens, and this guy can handle it.
@stefanmargraf7878
@stefanmargraf7878 3 жыл бұрын
Why the heck you wanted to land at that spot?
@mattmiller1179
@mattmiller1179 3 жыл бұрын
Because moose is delicious. Straight delicious.
@psuter80
@psuter80 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recon the plain would have not flipped if you kept the tail down until rotation despite your runway excursion? And another thought.. maybe flipping the plane saved you.. without the mindset that let's you abort a takeoff when you are no longer on your runway, would you have aborted off when you did not accelerate as expected? Thanks for posting this.. that way we can all learn your lesson without the helicopter and repair bill.. people like you make aviation safer! Cheers from switzerland (where we flip our cubs on the glacier ;) )
@portnuefflyer
@portnuefflyer 3 жыл бұрын
The chopper pilot has to feel a bit smug!
@mikekazmark8227
@mikekazmark8227 3 жыл бұрын
High five! I love your humor!
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