Flite Test - Carbon-Z Cub (by E-flite)

[@RedDevilSquadron]

That was a nasty, preventable crash, both of them :( Oh well, like they say, the amount of flying time you have does not mean anything, its the amount of flying time that you have learned from your mistakes that matters. Just remember...if your plane is in a stall...don't add full power and full up elevator. Airspeed doesn't make a stall, exceeding the critical angle of attack is what makes a stall. :) Great video as usual!

[@KingBuffalo20]

It would be awesome if Test Flite could get a video about painting their planes up. I think it would be very helpful, especially if they could cover the whole spectrum from vinyl to spray paint.

[@drewpert0515]

I was all for wanting a Carbon z Cub until this vid.. Love your vids guys. Thank you for your sacrifice so others may learn! :)

[@mrfu2]

9:28 "I think I bought that one... [uncomfortable laugh]" Priceless reaction! :)

[@layakalathahmawanimadahmat7655]

I have been watching your vids now for about 3-4 months. I enjoy your builds and pureness of making mods. Now the down side is mods are more under powered than up. Lastly, BUILD SOME NITRO SCREAMERS. I have a 75% NITRO and 25%BRUSHLESS POWER makers for all my combined AIR/WATER/GROUND RC TOYS. Not as many in quantity as you all. But more than enough for my WIFE TO GET UPSET. I have about 32 total, HOWEVER I also have FULL SET UP TRUCK F-450,38ft closed 3 car trailer and a 2018 FORD GT Street car that is a daily driver but on no prep class 7.67@181.6 MPH 1/4 OR 4.97@154.6MPH 1/8 and I am in heavy with firearms. A 22.5 year active duty 14 combat deployments USMC FR. So I am a perfect example of the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS.

[@2007crf450r]

you have to frankin plane fpv it with two motors thumbs up if you want to see frankin plane

[@hermannkateri2120]

Have you guys heard of the Iranian drones? A bunch of University students joined forces with the Coast Guard and built large multi-prop drones. The drones are designed to fly out above the water faster than any lifeguard can swim, spot any potential people in trouble and drop circular flotation devices for people to grab onto and float. During an interview one student mentioned the idea of adding heat seeking cameras so that they could find warm bodies under any conditions. These drones already saved lives.

[@mitchfitz6333]

when were the drones made

[@zevi]

I saw the video. It was an interesting concept, but with many flaws. Firstly, the main problem is identifying which body or heat signal is in distress compared to the other heat signals that are just having fun in the water. I believe the concept for the "lifeguard quad" was to have a autonomous system to do it, which would be very hard to design and very risky in application. An even bigger downfall I foresee is costal weather patterns. I know big hex/octos can withstand a pretty good amount of wind, but in the even of a sudden weather pattern change that could result in a mission for the copter, the weather would most likely make it impossible for the craft to autonomously find the target, drop the lifesaver, and return to shore. Dont get me wrong, I think that remote controller aircrafts have HUGE potential for use in search and rescue as well as firefighting and anti-poaching conservation. With the development of thermal imaging technology like the FLIR cameras (very expensive currently), I do see a drone type craft being of assistance for location heat sources in storm/disaster situations. I just dont think a copter would be the best way of doing that on a coastal region. A large fix-winged craft would be more resilient against wind/gusts and have longer range, payload, and flight time.

[@JasonUberig]

Totally fixable... hot water to straighten the nose foam crush, and some skewers into the fuse sides and nose piece to reinforce ... I'd suggest carbon 2 - 3mm rods, but in a Frankenplane BBQ's would work ;-). Cheers, J

[@lmdetect]

Use packing tape around the edges of the windshield when you take out the battery. Paint chipping problem solved.

[@craigackerman2590]

Man you guys sure talked me out of buying this plane. Thanks a million for saving me 400 bucks and a wasted day of disappointment. I'm getting a quad copter for sure. I have the carbon ss and it fly's OK but I thought the carbon z would be the stuff from horizons videos but this is the reality of this plane. Thanks again :)

[@ElderberryThee3rd]

while this is a good video with their points of view, there are far more positive videos about this plane than negative

[@100mpgus]

I love this plane. How small will it break down in order to transport? I just took a tape measure and checked just how big 84" x 56" actually is....It HUGE! I would need a trailer.

[@GilbertTang]

We have a few of these Cubs in our group as well. One change we all made was moving to softer (albeit heavier) 5.5" Du-Bro air-filled wheels. The stock foam wheels are nice and light, but way too hard. They work fine on grass, as this episode demonstrated, but they're incredibly unforgiving on asphalt, concrete or any hard landing surface. On all but the most perfect landings, tons of shock it transmitted directly into the airframe and it's extremely unpredictable on roll-out. Ground loops abound. When you take one of them out again, try your hand at some harder surfaces. I'm curious about your experience. Also curious about your experience with the CZ Cub on floats. It's been wonderful on this end. While new challenges are introduced, a lot of the aforementioned gripes are solved on the water, taking this already great plane up a few notches.

[@endwood]

Always luv watching you guys fool around with these toy planes, enjoyable to watch & funny:-) One suggestion though rudder is a great savoir but it can also cause a crash as used the wrong way it will accelerate the outer wing creating more lift causing a roll & in this case with the prevailing wind, full left rudder upon application of power might have saved the day, still we all learn:-)

[@tristangale6334]

Hi! I have never understood mixing, and it would be great if you could do a film on what mixing is and how to do it. Thanks!

[@SnapPunchRobert]

Love the idea of a Dual - Motored, FPV, Franken-Plane with that cub. Sweet. Very cool plane. I had no idea that the Carbon Cub Z was so big. That sucker is huge.

[@HotboiEngineering]

Yes do a dual motor Giant FPV ship. That would be awesome.

[@malelonewolf80]

Appreciated the video since I have the same model myself, though not put together yet. Liked that you analysed why the latest crash occured so the rest of us can learn from your crashes. Please, always do post-crash analysis, especially when reviewing products you purchase. Did you find any reason why the first crash occured? Seems to me like pilot error, stall due to excessive banking with too low a speed. Also, the first crash, where Josh dipped a wing-tip in the grass left me a bit puzzled. What happened there, could you explain the counter balanse thing you spoke of a little better?

[@alexzvada705]

The counter balance (piece on the tip of the vertical stabilizer) hit the grass and tore off on landing..

[@FarmerFpv]

Actually the counterbalance that broke off is from the horizontal stabilizer it's the actual elevator it's the part of the elevator that sticks out in front of the horizontal stabilizer it's called a counterbalance it pretty much uses the wind as Leverage so the servo doesn't have to use as much force when pitching the tail up and down. What happened was rather than landing on the mains he tried to do a three-point Landing on grass that was a little too tall so it ripped the left side of the elevator counterbalance off also the vertical stabilizer has a counterbalance up top which is impossible to rip off unless you land inverted and 3D planes also have counterbalances on all surfaces including the elevator Rudder and aileron's.

[@FarmerFpv]

The awkwardness and silence and change of Josh's tone after the crashes, was funny, the struggle was real here. love it! lol. I mean you guys are human after All. Just kidding I feel the pain have done it myself and that's part of the hobby can't imagine if everything was perfect how bored you would get? LOL

[@whitcroft3bfplanes697]

I have a question for the AR636A reciver in these planes...how do I hook up my DXEA up to it...I have it fly able but I dont think it has any As3x features.. wouldn't it have self leveling ?

[@vbz-n9z]

I have a question : which quad was used in this video to follow the plane ?

[@happyhappyjoyjoy1975]

What are those flower-shaped gimbal extensions Alex is using?

[@Deathbysnakes90]

Really appreciate if you reply…Do you know where I can get the 60amp esc extension cable? (For the ft Viggen…Couldn't find anything)

[@adampeterson343]

Five whole days without a video! I'm dyin here.

[@carmatic]

its quite nice to see planes this big take off almost within one of their body lengths

[@7jsm7]

"Maybe we should take four of these motors and make a quad" DO IT!!!! :D

[@FarmerFpv]

Already been done two years before this plane came out

[@GavinRemme]

Make it a twin engine fpv!

[@austingeller2392]

What quad does flight test used to get those great shots

[@chrismillersrcfamily]

I absolutely love this plane!!! Just wanted to get that out there. Lol.

[@flytoday]

I was interested right up to the point where the nose broke off. Honest review

[@parkourj4316]

Really

[@UnimpressedAussie]

yeah. i was about to buy one tomorrow (second hand, good condition), but that really put me off.

[@masonjordan968]

Noticed the same thing around the battery hatch of my carbon z yak , also if you hold it too long the paint sticks to your skin if is a warm day

[@2007crf450r]

just got a brand new yak I think ill put some shoe goo around the hatch maybe the paint wont chip off if I do thanks for the warm day tip

[@sethpark777]

2007crf450r Careful with shoe goo, it's solvent based so I would think it would melt the paint, and maybe the foam. I know for a fact that it melts EPS.

[@2007crf450r]

didn't know that thanks

[@mariushoffpettersen1013]

Can you guyes review the Parkzone Sport Cub? I got it, but i want to see what u think about it! Greetings from Norway :-)

[@anthonypoltes7413]

Is the sport cub a a smaller version of this or just an easier version to fly?

[@tonikrehl2545]

when i never fly befor like this and have good reflexes can i fly this plane with as3x or for what is this flying help ?

[@4ohm531]

sure.

[@evanscm3]

you probably can.... i mean its a only a 2kg 200cm 45kts weapon. maybe try something smaller first, but after that it's pretty easy

[@scottelm1997]

Toni Krehl

[@michaelnelson3469]

I am curious about Josh saying "I don't even have that turned on, I'll turn it on now" about the AS3X system. Is there some way to switch it on and off from the TX?

[@ubergoober4065]

Once again I hope you guys make a video, even a short one, about the crap the FAA is trying to pull, I really don't know why you haven't yet?

[@GLHS592]

Great review! I wanted this plane, but I decided it was too big. I preordered the Carbon Z Cub's little brother, the Parkzone Sport Cub. I absolutely love it. Please review and modify the Sport Cub too.

[@danspratt2]

ive not been keeping up with the videos too well, whats happened to other josh?

[@DiscoverRC]

Very cool-I love the big Z cub! Shortest limbo contest ever. Never say, "who's going to crash first" :)

[@nishbrown]

Thumbs up for Peter's hat.

[@sagecomstock7385]

I believe it bounces because of the hard wheels, my dad has the same plane and he bought softer wheels and they work great !

[@sross148]

love how the miniquad kind of makes mockery of the planes in a few episodes of FT lately. Does everything a plane does for ya and then some! No wonder mini sized quads are all the rage and I gotta get mine flying soon too.

[@richb313]

Would monocoting the wings and fuselage help stregthen these planes?

[@gedm2]

Hey guys, maybe you could do an episode on how you fix that cub. I would be interested to see if it's just a hot glue job or if you throw in some extra reinforcement. Thanks for the great shows, I look forward to them each week.

[@TheHammer693]

What online retailer would you recommend for shopping rc planes?

[@adamhall7434]

I love the footage... love love love. you guys continue to make great reviews. I will say though, when you limbo'd, i saw that right aileron and what do you know, it rolled right lol. that said, please keep it coming. so great

[@danielsmith6114]

What if you tried to hand launch the Carbon-Z Cub?

[@wilgarcia1]

I get the feeling the vortex generators are causing a spoiler effect at low speeds. I would remove them, fill in the opening and try it again.

[@amxen1]

Be interesting to know what you plan to do about fog now

[@rorykennedy859]

That would be an awesome frankenplane! Definitely want to see that. On another note, it would be nice to see a review on the 3DR Iris and Maybe putting a fpv system in it also.

[@nathancoleman1535]

Is that a full scale plane in the background

[@g-rod5199]

A new frankenplane would be cool!! I was thinking about a twin motor cub

[@reubenginsburg2012]

How about for the "frankenplane" you guys make it a Ford Tri-Motor, I'd LOVE to see that! Great review!

[@williamadventures]

Such a nice plane. I got one in April and love it with the floats. Hope you get to try it with floats! The carnage of watching two of these go down...that's a bummer. Both of my crashes have been ugly snap rolls close to the ground. I finally added some extra expo and that helped. You really have to fly it with some speed because that motor torque and huge control surfaces make for some snappy turns when you punch it. Only damage on mine was to the landing gear since it landed flat. Very hard but Flat.

[@matthewleigh6058]

You guys should do a vid on the sport cub I am about to get it

[@tri5ford]

Thanks for the answers. I have since flown mine and what a plane! Added 28g to the tail. The counter balance being used looks like a wheel flaring. Gary

[@czflyer3947]

The "counter balance" Josh was referring to is simply the corners of his elevator. Many full size planes use this design to reduce the heaviness on the elevator controls. Nothing to do with balancing the plane. Josh ripped off the corner of the elevator by dragging it in the grass. I don't understand why you added tail weight when there's plenty of cg adjustment in the battery compartment.

[@FarmerFpv]

Have no idea what counterbalance you're talking about but the counterbalance he's talking about is to take the load off the servos they're at the edge of the control surfaces 3D planes have them on every surface including the ailerons the one that he ripped off is on the side of the horizontal stabilizer which is the elevator counterbalance LOL.

[@Psi105]

The reason you can have two identical planes of different scales and the bigger one is more prone to breaking is because the strength of the materials doesn't scale. Foam is foam and will always have a fixed strength based on its chemical composition. So a scaled up plane has more weight but does not have more material strength to match it. That's why big RC planes are not for beginners, they often break on their first crash. And why those tiny micro quadcopters can smash into things all day long without damage.

[@Tallguysrc]

I guess you guys wont be doing anymore Inflight FPV Footage for awhile...... keep up the good work...

[@lukeklassen629]

Hey guys, why don't you make a Concorde speed build kit, it would be a bot big, but but awesome none the less.

[@darthvaydr]

Hello guys, I am looking at buying this plane. I have an eflite apprentice and can fly it pretty well. Would this be too much airplane for me as a second plane? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

[@mtsilvagt]

A split screen with the plane in flight and your fingers on the transmitter, would be so rad... Jus' say'n ! 🔥👍

[@georgeamenta8207]

I have a bite of money and want to buy another plane. I'm am an experienced pilot and have been looking at this one. Do you think it's worth the money? (Also what was the wind speed you where flying in?)

[@georgeamenta8207]

Is the plane really worth $400? I'm considering getting it but want to hear from someone who has one. Also I don't believe in that AS3X system so how did you turn it on an off

[@jalbert222]

At 9:20, the crash does not look like so much of a cross wind issue, as just a plain old stall. Cause? Using so much flap landing. Not necessary and fosters a bad habit of flying slowly, with therefore very little control surface authority to enable getting out of stalls etc. Location location location in real estate. Air Speed, air speed airspeed in flying :)

[@timothymanta9295]

Your videos have helped me learn lots about the hobby... Thanks

[@Hyp3rSp8c3]

Are those vortex generators on the wings?

[@rcpete7055]

Please fly the carbon cub s.. it will be a big help to new pilots 😊👍

[@SeanDuffyProductions]

Great video, you did a much better review on this than on the last one!

[@tri5ford]

Counterbalance came off? Looked like a wheel pant came off. Which is it?

[@BushPilot444]

Guys... Please tell me how to contact support at E-Flite. I bought this Carbon Z Cub, followed the directions using Loctite as state on page 8 of the directions and the loctite ate up all the plastic fitting contact points. $400.00, plus the battery tray you guys recommend, two of the batteries I ordered, all wasted and it has not left the hanger. It didn't do it instantly but worked gradually so when I finished the build and started to look back over it I see the cowling falling off, and I look and all the assembly contact points are all melted and oozing loose. Probably close to $600.00 all together. I need to contact E-flite support. I am not a happy camper. How do I do that? Thanks.

[@RobertKliethermes]

I like to see the bigger electric planes, please do more like these.

[@alisonroyle9283]

I was flying my gas plane and a carbon Z was landing in a cross wind. He failed and he hit the putting full throttle but the prop was broken so his nose hit the ground causing the plane to roll over twice , a wing broke, a bunch of pieces flew off and when it was standing on its nose it was right next to me when I was in the pilot area and it looked so big and it was scary and my dad crapped himself.

[@MineRaider]

hey flight test is the application for the flight fast still active

[@TheRoggan123]

You need to increase the prop size slightly to get the best out of the box performance on the C-Cub! :)

[@williamhbynumiii5269]

Can you guys please review the splendor?

[@shckltnebay]

What is a counterbalance? AS3X can be turned off?

[@pompatj5845]

Wheres josh scott?

[@SuperCaptianCrunch]

You should have a coolest crash challenge between all 3 of you and have us vote for who is the best

[@BenjaminMois]

Go for the Franken plane! :)

[@TyzaGFPV]

What quad do they use in this video and how much? Anyone know?

[@organgrind]

Excellent episode. Well done for also including educational content.

[@algesbrek5695]

Hi was that wr250 or an xt 250 thanks Al

[@Iflyarizona]

Flown the same plane probably 100 times and ive noticed it has very similar tendencies to a real life, full scale cub. I also fly a full scale j-3 in real life and what I find to be a great quote for this plane and the full scale cub is "Flying a cub is easy, but flying a cub great is hard."

[@johnnyj540]

...in real life.

[@Iflyarizona]

yeah but im also referring to the flight characteristics such as turns and staying coordinated as you can see when they crashed it multiple times. A failure to keep the bird coordinated. Can't let that happen in full scale flying or youre dead...

[@johnmoller9222]

This might be my next plane, recomanded? I fly Micro planes, and i have the F4U corsair, but i crash it.. So is this easier to fly?

[@craigackerman2590]

This plane looks way harder to fly and unless you got 400 bucks you don't mind using as a fire starter I wouldn't waste any money on this. Get super good with the micros then debate on wasting 400. Lol

[@ptw783]

Craig Ackerman hamburi nanntiii this is great advice^^^ the micros offer so much room to learn, there isn't much reason to spend more than the 160 usd or so for the RTF planes

[@evanscm3]

it's really easy to fly. all of the dudes at my club are amazed at how well a foamy can handle the wind. looks cool, easy to land (get the dubro wheels) and can teach you slow easy aerobatics without any nasty surprises. great plane

[@Ghostrider03Z]

Actually that fpv plane idea sounds awesome...

[@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS]

I know right?

[@BeardRobert55]

So does that quad... I WANT IT DONE

[@bvanlaer]

Or a plane with THREE motors! ;)

[@MTJLT]

bvonbla Yeah, go for an old fashioned trimotor, with lots of batteries for long duration.

[@randomrcs8580]

were did u get that battery tray

[@kdushire]

anyone have any issues with excessive vibration when at 3/4 - full throttle. Just put mine together this weekend and took it for a couple flights and it made a terrible noise during high throttle settings. Had it apart and it looks like the nose of the airplane is shaking in the mount. Any help would be great. Thanks!

[@kdushire]

Ended up being prop balance. Sanded down some imperfections and it worked like a charm

[@evanscm3]

yeah i have this at differing throttle levels. need to bal the prop... i also found that the dubro inflatable wheels cause quite a bit of vibe after takeoff due to what i guess is imbalanced wheels spinning post-takeoff

[@andrewmitchell5807]

please can you guys make a review for the super cub s trainer

[@Aviation101]

You guys have so much fun. haha

[@thomaswoodwaski7558]

MrAviation l need info on Carbon Cub 55 and a battery where can l get this information

[@maxmario9196]

Pro tip : watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.

[@Volacharly]

Hello ... I would buy this model, who can tell me if you can increase the battery and how much? Thank you all for the response

[@evanscm3]

5000mah in mine and is fine. could probably take more, depends on your flying style... i personally don't mind a bit of weight.

[@MattiaMastroianni]

Please do a review on the sbach 342 3d.

[@Snagglepuss1952]

Would love to see a frankenplane FPV with twin motors from the wreck, although with foamies that will glue together really easily, my Bixler is way more smashed up and it is still flying fine. ( Windy day, gopro mounted, and sabilization set way to sensitive, ripped the elevator off and crashed into the river. lesson learnt!!) Great plane and video, I love large scale and you do have to expect breakages, part of life if you push them.

[@FPVREVIEWS]

such abuse to the poor cubs! i could barely watch.. and it broke so easily..well, thanks for doing it so we don't have to!

[@FarmerFpv]

It look like it broke easily but it actually didn't he was Full Throttle enjoy right turn stall with a prop that big spinning that fast and that much torque for sure the Foams going to rip apart. Dum dum uncomfortable laugh moment lol

[@arnavtripathi1596]

can you make a video on the stratocam

[@watchdoggibson]

nice plane , have you had a chance to check out the new spectrum Dx6 w/250 model memory , to me other than higher channel models this radio will be the last radio one will ever need.

[@RaulRodriguez-uw6cq]

Great preview It looks like you need to fly this plane in a wide field in case you run into trouble

[@evanscm3]

can turn on a dime!

[@JRWperformance]

Are you guys planning on saying anything about the FAA issues going around now? You guys are one of the most popular RC channels on KZbin and your voice would really help.

[@Ubernator]

Hey Alex and Josh look at the camera when you are speaking. Makes it less weird.

[@EthanKRETA]

Also takes their eyes off the plane, and introduces a dangerous scenario where they're blind flying.

[@RyanWohldmann]

There are multiple cameras, so they probably were but chose to use the other cameras footage.

[@StoneBlueAirlines]

Needs a little trim.....click click click click click click click click haha to funny. Big bird looks great flying.

[@bando404]

Yes please make that big 2 engine fpv thing that you mentioned!

[@EvrynSmith]

I would like to build an autonomous long distance sail plane for way point missions and long distance scenic flying. Im looking for an airframe to buy or build. I already have all of my electronics ( flight controller, gps, vtx, camera, rx, ect). I have tried the volantex pheonix 2400 and the volantex asw-28. I have bought the pheonix 2400 3 times and the asw-28 once. I have come to the conclusion that hand launching the airplane is the most problematic aspect of what im trying to accomplish. I have had several successful flights and way point missions but again, the launching of the aircraft has resulted on my absence of an airframe, currently. I was hoping someone could dirrect me to an airframe that is both a good long distance sail plane and has landing gear for runway take offs and landings. I apriciate yalls helps here