Flite Test - Hot Wire Foam Cutting

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Hot wire foam cutting using a homemade hot wire cutter and custom made balsa templates.
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@BJbear2001
@BJbear2001 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for interviewing David! He seemed shy to begin, but near the end his wisdom shown through like something out of this world! David seems very experienced beyond his years! Great interview!
@TactiColt
@TactiColt 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, guys. My father used to build balsa gliders way back when he was in the Navy. He and I are beginning to explore the RC hobby together, but so much has changed since his day. It would be a tragedy to build a big balsa craft and wreck it on first flight, but building is what he loves. Showing how to use foam core as a medium lets him build a much more durable aircraft. This makes a big difference for both of us getting into things.
@RCHobbyist463
@RCHobbyist463 11 жыл бұрын
That is just plane epic. I have never seen a solution that simple but sophisticated enough to replace a professional soldering jig. You could literally save $100 just by choosing this simplistic yet sturdy design. I could see a whole new revolution in DIY!
11 жыл бұрын
They are to scale. Just downloaded them of the site and they are still correct. The wingspan says 700mm so that's a scale you can use.
@wx9dx
@wx9dx 10 жыл бұрын
BTW I use a number 10 Dulcimer string " like a guitar string" hooked to my Weller Soldering gun as a transformer " tip removed and wires hook there" and run the gun from a light dimmer. Has always worked on projects for me. The biggest foam we can get around here is from Lowes or Menards for house walls. 73 Jimmy, ARRL TS, WX9DX
@frogsoda
@frogsoda 6 жыл бұрын
I have a hot foam cutter that is configured like a bandsaw. It has a table, the wire comes out of the table vertically to a frame that goes back to the table. I haven't used it but I loaned it to a friend who uses a handheld cutter and she liked it a whole lot better. Also, we have no trouble getting foam in Miami. In fact we're 30 miles from Miami and that's where we go to get foam.
@vince38curious2
@vince38curious2 10 жыл бұрын
The good thing about the templates is if you are like me and hopeless with all things electrical you can make your templates out of thin steel or aluminium and use a sanding block / Blocks to sand down to the template after cutting the excess foam away with a small saw or knife.. Thanks Dave and Josh this gives me more confidence to try new shapes that I wouln't have thought possible before.. Regards Vince.
@thebunkreport
@thebunkreport 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy a whole hot wire cutting set for around $25. However, the one that you made works great as well!
@eastcarolinadroneshelispla6635
@eastcarolinadroneshelispla6635 9 жыл бұрын
Building one of these now. Can not wait to try it out. HUGE THANKS TO FLITE TEST GUYS!!
@AndrewWorkshop
@AndrewWorkshop 11 жыл бұрын
You could also use an AC transformer and a light dimmer to control the heat of the wire.
@azgarogly
@azgarogly 11 жыл бұрын
Great! Actually, I was expecting a long time, when David'd share the knowledge on hotwire foam cutting. I have some (working) idea on how to power hotwire with simple components from electric store. Now, I guess, I have to write an article for flitetest
@jezjezman9487
@jezjezman9487 10 жыл бұрын
Health and safety bit: **Wear an M3 Vapor mask**, Gloves, Goggles
@wutangclams3203
@wutangclams3203 7 жыл бұрын
and do it outside! i was thinking the same thing, boy i bet those vapors have all kinds of carcinogens in them
@TheStonehammerFiles
@TheStonehammerFiles 5 жыл бұрын
Cutting it is safe, burning it is not.
@sato4kaiba
@sato4kaiba 11 жыл бұрын
For those who don't know: I squared R is the power P that is produce and is not necessarily the amount of heat. There is a formula to calculate the amount heat that will be produced.
@ytubesucksazznow
@ytubesucksazznow 11 жыл бұрын
I don't even do this hobby, probably due to the fact my first real plane blew up on maiden voyage as a kid lol, that's another story all in itself haha, yet I learn a lot of tricks for other things and strangely I keep watching your vids anyway knowing I could never build the awesomeness you guys do ^^ i love watching you guys and keep up good work.
@ballwizz23
@ballwizz23 11 жыл бұрын
I just made one today. I didn't use the esc or the dimmer. Just some nichrome, wood, and screws. I used a simple 9 volt on 12 inches of 28 guage wire. I plan to step it up to 12 volt as 9 was a little slow. Idk about the AC/DC part though. You can buy Nichrome on Amazon for a few dollars.
@user-ik7bl4yg2t
@user-ik7bl4yg2t 9 жыл бұрын
"what was it, Vegan?" "Viggen" "Alright, the Vegan..."
@nilsolsson880
@nilsolsson880 9 жыл бұрын
its a swedish plane
@nilsolsson880
@nilsolsson880 9 жыл бұрын
David is from Sweden i things
@afrog2666
@afrog2666 7 жыл бұрын
Saab 37 Viggen ;) Saab also made a car called Viggen.. Little factoid for ya ;)
@johnlight5388
@johnlight5388 7 жыл бұрын
Jan Christian Frodahl m
@fenderstratguy
@fenderstratguy 5 жыл бұрын
He kept saying vegan lol
@mnovo
@mnovo 10 жыл бұрын
Ohm's Law is V=I*R (Voltage=Current*Resistance) Joule's Law is P=V*I (Watts=Voltage*Current) Nichrome wire with a diameter of .010 is roughly sitting at 7 Ohms resistance per linear foot. You can measure the 2 contact points on the bow with a DMM or use this as a rough calculation entry point for your R value. What current value are you attempting to achieve while you vary the voltage? Great video btw! M~
@mnovo
@mnovo 10 жыл бұрын
hotwirefoamcutterinfo.com/__SupplyCalc.html Nevermind. I found it. 6.2v @ .92A = 5.7watts and 400F and 8.0v @ 1.19A = 9.52 watts and 600F
@shotintel
@shotintel 4 жыл бұрын
Mmm, brings back my unregulated vape mod days. I would turn my own coils.
@daveroche689
@daveroche689 11 жыл бұрын
I have have miles of Nicrome wire if you would like some. However you can use fine piano wire but unlike Davids bow you need more tension to get a good cut. Use a high current transformer and a light dimer or you will just get a fire. The best bows are made of wood and Aluminium, and have an H shape. You use 2 pieces Aluminium at the ends and timber to separate and insulate. Tension with shock cord or a spring & cord/rope. $20 and your cutting. Don't use PVC and don't burn the house down.
@3duckit
@3duckit 4 жыл бұрын
Miss this young man. Great video.
@RCHobbyist463
@RCHobbyist463 11 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite channels, other than Flite Test, did that and it was amazing.
@MrROTD
@MrROTD 11 жыл бұрын
If you have any experience with 3-d modelling on computers this is a piece of cake, its a similar concept to skinning between two polygons, in fact I've modelled planes in 3-d doing exactly that
@itsgr82bl8
@itsgr82bl8 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info guys, I built a foam cutter using a computer power supply which had WAY more than enough power. I will have to revisit that adventure and see if I can't refine it a little bit!
@carmatic
@carmatic 11 жыл бұрын
also, how about adding mirrors to the sides of the bow so you can see how far along you are cutting on both sides without having to turn the piece over the awesome thing about having the plans made in foam sections is that each of these sections are small enough to be 3d printed ... you could add pins and holes, or slots and tabs, and make it much easier to assemble and give it some added structural rigidity as well
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes 11 жыл бұрын
We need a laser-cut set of the plywood templates avail in the FT Store right away!! (for this and OTHER planes)
@mattivirta
@mattivirta 5 жыл бұрын
and if have laser who can cut plywood can cut laser all foam too easy.
@jeffv2074
@jeffv2074 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍 video, it is a great help since it will be my first time working with a foam cutter. I'm into RC cars and drones so I am very familiar with the components utilized, the heat for the wire was my biggest concern and you guys clarified that for me, thanks
@josephmolinari1
@josephmolinari1 11 жыл бұрын
please please please do a flite tip episode about how to extend the flight time of an existing air frame. thanks and keep the episodes coming!
@maxfig4167
@maxfig4167 11 жыл бұрын
good places to find good foam, craft stores, they have a foam that is excellent for hot wire cutting and it's also very light.
@h78i23jjy
@h78i23jjy 11 жыл бұрын
Hobby King still sells Brushed ESCs. But they only have two of them. A 20a and a 30a. You have to search "brushed" if you want to find them quickly.
@britblad
@britblad 11 жыл бұрын
I am not into planes anymore but making a smaller ver of you wire former would save me alot of time with my model Railroad!
@Brian_Boxtruck
@Brian_Boxtruck 11 жыл бұрын
You can get big blocks of the blue foam from aircraft spruce and other aircraft/fibeglass supply places. It's not expensive but can be to ship due to size.
@robinbeckford
@robinbeckford 11 жыл бұрын
3M77 works, too. Spray both faces, leave until it's only just tacky then press together. Holds well, and the wire goes through the joint no problem. (I learnt that from Phil Barnes dvd on vacuum bagging.)
@davidkelly4598
@davidkelly4598 4 жыл бұрын
I've done this w a dimmer switch wired upstream of a 12 volt car charger. Great temp control.
@theartofflying3108
@theartofflying3108 4 жыл бұрын
Dimmer switch from room light switch?? And how did you force car battery charger to flow current if it is with electronic processor prevents from overload and so..??
@poobertop
@poobertop 11 жыл бұрын
You can also use an adjustable light dimmer to have control over the current to the wire.
@NarcizoJE
@NarcizoJE 11 жыл бұрын
Electronic Dimmer used to control lights do the same job and is cheaper. Thumbs up for the great idea of PVC tubes for the bow.
@Mrdaddydaze1
@Mrdaddydaze1 11 жыл бұрын
Thank u guys I always wanted to see a edf jet on your channel
@gasparreis303
@gasparreis303 Жыл бұрын
Great video, congratulations, but what are the measurements in centimeters of the saw and Nichrome wire ?
@MrJoseJasso
@MrJoseJasso 11 жыл бұрын
did you laser cut the formers? what if i don't have a laser cutter? how do i cut formers? Great plane!!!
@laynehip
@laynehip 11 жыл бұрын
I got the plans printed off for this on 54 pages using a titled PDF. Going to get foam tommorow and start building this thing. I have never even flown a Rc plane before in my life but I don't even care!
@johnlandbeckjr3736
@johnlandbeckjr3736 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing young man!!! Very well done. John in MD
@robfrydryck127
@robfrydryck127 Жыл бұрын
Crazy good cutting skills for hand held
@masoncayaban9790
@masoncayaban9790 9 жыл бұрын
Add Springs to tension the wire. You'll get a better finish and you can turn up the voltage, which will produce more heat and will also allow you to cut faster.
@lululock
@lululock 8 жыл бұрын
If you put more voltage, more heat, yes. But the heat will "melt" more foam than your template. With a friend, we made that mistake while cutting foam cores for our glider's wings.
@FPVav8tr
@FPVav8tr 11 жыл бұрын
1:20 JOSH: "My bow is huge, you're bow is little" Remember Josh it's not the size of the bow, it's how you use it. :)
@DLPlanes
@DLPlanes 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I live just by Miami and they always have foam at Home Depot or Lowe's. I too did a hot wire foam cutter but never thought of making it portal like this one. Great job.
@Kerberosfish
@Kerberosfish 6 жыл бұрын
the guy in the red woodsman shirt is mad smart
@colinmaguire3273
@colinmaguire3273 6 жыл бұрын
David windestal?
@colinmaguire3273
@colinmaguire3273 6 жыл бұрын
David windestal?
@MAYERMAKES
@MAYERMAKES 9 жыл бұрын
If you construct the bow like a spanend woodworking saw and use a string spring between the hotwire and frame you will get much better tension.
@techsmith6818
@techsmith6818 11 жыл бұрын
You could use a turnbuckle half way up the arms to keep the wire taught,
@whatelseison8970
@whatelseison8970 6 жыл бұрын
It's usually better to just use the flex of the bow or a tension spring.
@getcartercarpark.
@getcartercarpark. 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David, Great quoting the formula for power, I2 x R. We can measure the resistance of the wire in the bow of any length we intend to use, but how much current are you having flowing through the wire of the bow? Fantastic model, second to none! TIA. Kay.
@sirbow2
@sirbow2 11 жыл бұрын
i was gonna built one of these a while back, but im gonna use the 30A Brushed ESC for a RC Power Wheels :D
@carmatic
@carmatic 11 жыл бұрын
2:53 you can use a 3 phase brushless ESC if you make a rectifier out of diodes ... you will need to hook up a motor in parallel so that it gives a feedback voltage so that the ESC will work
@HuylerBrooks
@HuylerBrooks 11 жыл бұрын
Hey, sorry for the completely unrelated comment, but could y'all do an episode/walk-around of David's "Quadrone"?? I was looking at it on David's website, and by golly, that design is wonderful! Would love to hear the designer comments on how he came up with the design and how it performs! Thanks!
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up VH, that's what I call team work. Now that I have sorted my first Tricopter build and the associated Firm Ware issues.Whew! I can now try my hand at making an airframe from inexpensive, readily available, easy to cut Foam. BTW I am looking for the "How To Make Inexpensive Hot Wire Templates" ? Or is there another link you found with actual template designs that I can print and cut out?
@hyzenthlay7151
@hyzenthlay7151 11 жыл бұрын
What amperage is the brushed ESC you are using in this video? As you say, they are getting hard to get your hands on, and I wanted to know what would be the minimum needed.
@brett8090
@brett8090 10 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see these formers and other formers like them on the store. A C-130 would turn out crazy sharp with this technique.
@WCPAGEL
@WCPAGEL 11 жыл бұрын
The pink foam in made by Owens Corning witch is in Toledo, OH.
@robopony
@robopony 11 жыл бұрын
I could listen to David say "glue" all day.
@parisipsilantis6142
@parisipsilantis6142 11 жыл бұрын
Hi guys great job.were you get the former! You design them?
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, FOR THIS GREAT DEMO!!
@antecboy
@antecboy 11 жыл бұрын
It's when you're cutting the foam and the wire isn't hot enough to cut it with proper speed, so you push it a little harder and the wire starts to flex a little. That is bowing. Like when you pull back the string of a bow, bowing.
@heaanlasai866
@heaanlasai866 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great video! Will you be making a video about fibreglass coating the foam?
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 11 жыл бұрын
You can still get a brushed ESC at Hobby King. Check it out. Just type in search for them at the top of page and you'll find 20 and 30A there.
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 11 жыл бұрын
Hey HK still sells a brushed ESC! I don't know how to access templates yet. Are you making your own or have you found a source? I'm so new, I am still working on hand launching my foamcore trainers.I have already destroyed three props and two motors will need new shafts installed. I wanted to use extruded SM styro like in the video. You know there are two diff kind 200 & 300 psi test. Blue and pink.Need templates for flying wing. I'll do a rear motor mount to help keep damage from crash minimal
@splendoremmanuel9091
@splendoremmanuel9091 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one bro, thank you very much. But what is the thickness of the Nichrome wire?
@hieraco
@hieraco 11 жыл бұрын
A good cheap source for wire is your local music store. I picked up a NP017 string (guitar second string) for 10Kr (about $1.20USD) works great with a 4A 12VDC transformer to supply power (wired to a rheostat/potentiometer to adjust the wire temperature.) Also I'd like to ask David if he can recommend any Blue foam core suppliers in Sweden.
@rtonce
@rtonce 7 жыл бұрын
Found out I am very allergic to the off gassing of that foam when i used it around a window installed air conditioner years ago. When home, I had non-stop runny nose. We tested our suspicion of the foam being the cause, confirmed it was, and removed it. I have no other known allergies, so can only conclude the chemicals coming off that foam, cannot be good. The takeaway is: Use natural materials and hone your skills of workmanship with other building methods whenever possible. Enjoy lasting health.
@cowcar87
@cowcar87 11 жыл бұрын
did you guys think about keeping the wire cutter stationary and moving the form only. it may be easier with these small pieces.
@calebsmedia
@calebsmedia 11 жыл бұрын
You guys should sell the templates for the Viggen. That would cut down the build time a lot. Thanks!
@XxXAUTOXxX
@XxXAUTOXxX 11 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't need more than 10amp I use a PWM controller instead of an esc, it has a rheostat and will take up to 40V. I use 28gauge nichrome wire (stainless fishing leader also works) and up to 24v (2 car batteries in series) for wings up to 10 feet long. Any longer than that and you have to go really slow or your wire will bend too much (but that can be useful for adding reflex).
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 11 жыл бұрын
I think you can use a guitar string Try the smaller ones like high E or B strings if they are long enough. Easy to get in any music store or from a from a friend who has old ones. Give her a shot!
@SuperArchi2010
@SuperArchi2010 7 жыл бұрын
Hi FliteTest this is an awesome piece of work very nice cuts I want to make some shapes cutting a foam but pls tell me what is the name of this foams I know it is a high density foam but there some few other products that are not the best for foam cutting Thank you for your to reply
@kmatusik73
@kmatusik73 11 жыл бұрын
how about figuring out templates for the versa wing, so i can hot wire wings for that. maybe you could lazor cut them and we could buy them from flitetest. you could start a new series on aircraft with cut wings.. that would be awesome.. thanks Kevin
@VictorHugoRC1111
@VictorHugoRC1111 11 жыл бұрын
You can get it from an old heater heating element. Usually it comes in a coil shape.
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 11 жыл бұрын
I didn't get it either, or where to buy this Nickel Chromium, and for the majority of us that don't have a brushed ESC , what do we use in its stead. I have seen guys use the little transformer and a dimmer but what kind of transformer. Step down to 12 volt would imply a 10 to 1 ratio.120 in and 12 out, can it be AC or does DC provide better results. And then the application of a cheap selenium dimmer on the input end, the kind you use in a wall switch to dim room lights. Can any help?
@ARob16x
@ARob16x 8 жыл бұрын
im building the hot wire foam cutter from grant thomsons video. With the templates that flite test showed me how to make in their how to make templates video i can make professional scratch built planes like the ft 3d and other planes built by them.
@DefekCs
@DefekCs 11 жыл бұрын
Hey, guys! While David is still there and while You are on topic of blue core foam, maybe make some BEGINNER'S TUTORIAL IN FIBERGLASSING on this plane! You mentioned that it needs reenforcement for air intakes. Nothing major, just tips & tricks in basic fiberglassing - tools, compounds, methods, safety things e.t.c.
@JordnFtGuetta
@JordnFtGuetta 11 жыл бұрын
I love this idea, i just thinking about how to cut the foam, and its just awsome (: !
@rajmulay4062
@rajmulay4062 2 жыл бұрын
You can get foam from Hydroponic shop .great video 👌👍
@VictorHugoRC1111
@VictorHugoRC1111 11 жыл бұрын
Go to the Flitetest site and they have the templates there, Thanks guys!
@aviah11
@aviah11 11 жыл бұрын
Can you cut 2 sections together? Meaning the piece you cut but twice as thick
@ChrisHewittMedia
@ChrisHewittMedia 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. What should the template be made of so the wire doesn't damage it? Thanks.
@shotintel
@shotintel 4 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of spare kanthol wire around, will that work, or is nichrom a must?
@henrybartlett1986
@henrybartlett1986 8 жыл бұрын
Very clever. Lots of great info. Fantastic.
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS 11 жыл бұрын
i know those are not, but why cut the whole plane out of blue foam with very close to ideal shapes, and then just use flat wings? that only works well for small park flyers. i like to use real naca 4 digit foils for low reynolds numbers. would love to see a good tutorial on how to cut real airfoil wing sections from foam.
@raoulcuban
@raoulcuban 11 жыл бұрын
Nice work guys, thanks for the help.
@TytanPuzzles
@TytanPuzzles 10 жыл бұрын
At around 13 minutes, is the type of foam you are talking about insulation polystyrene? Also, now I know that I can get foam very easily.
@john3Lee
@john3Lee 11 жыл бұрын
David is a genius....
@christophbader3713
@christophbader3713 6 жыл бұрын
I miss David Windestål. He should have been there, when you got 1.000.000 subscribers...
@handblitz4408
@handblitz4408 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to him
@GISRockstar
@GISRockstar 7 жыл бұрын
"If you live in Miami, you're gonna have a really hard time finding foam." I live in Key West. Dang it.
@wingnutz1170
@wingnutz1170 11 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video! Thanks for the tutorial. It makes me wanna go out and build something!
@Frifler888
@Frifler888 11 жыл бұрын
Oh WOW, That's a Great Idea man. I live in DK, and i have to say we forroners love Swedish much more than dk, mostly because most of them are Hunest, good and pure and they make good friends. So i say Go Sweedan, we love you guys...:-)
@IH1940HAY
@IH1940HAY 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t see a spring to take up the slack when the wire nets hot and expands, how did you handle the wire expansion?
@simon-gabrielgervais7262
@simon-gabrielgervais7262 8 жыл бұрын
a foot pedal like a tig welder would be great for start and restart and speed control
@joerandolph7806
@joerandolph7806 10 жыл бұрын
I use a screw attached between the wire and the holder to tighten the wire
@microguyprod
@microguyprod 11 жыл бұрын
Ok, so Im able to get an variable power supply. It has 3-5 V/1,5 A, 5-9 V/2 A, 9-11 V/3 A, 11-14 V/4 A. Im wondering if that is good for a bow? I dont care if the bow have to be 30cm or 1m, but if it would work.
@nicholasn.2883
@nicholasn.2883 4 жыл бұрын
Just built this. Awesome!
@jorbedo
@jorbedo Жыл бұрын
Better to work with high density foam? Recommended?
@prasanthsoman4409
@prasanthsoman4409 6 жыл бұрын
That was a helpful video about hot wire... Thank you guys....
@bridgendesar
@bridgendesar 6 жыл бұрын
Could you make an aerofoil shaped hot wire cutter and cut the foam side to side instead of a long wire across the width? I think you'd need thicker wire to hold aerofoil shape and more power, but it could the cutting process much simpler!
@BaconRanch
@BaconRanch 6 жыл бұрын
does the hot wire not cut/burn into the PVC? I do not see any insulator on it?
@obRCmania
@obRCmania 11 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a review of the Durafly Spitfire.
@vwing7332
@vwing7332 9 жыл бұрын
can use tungstun wire which can be easily found in electric iron
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