Flite Test - Throttle Mixing - FLITE TIP

[@MrWest1960]

Hi guys, West here. I have a different take on the reason for the nose dropping when you throttle off and are in a glide. I use this very maneuver to help determine CG location. I feel that your bird is nose heavy and not suffering from a thrust issue. Thrust issues relate to when power is on not off in my opinion. Great job guys and I love your shows. West

[@timbobryan]

Thanks guys for another great tip and explanation on mixing.(thanks Josh for the mixing/scratching sound effects.lol!) Right now I'm dealing with the whole thrust angle issue with a motor/motor mount/firewall replacement on one of my planes. If I can't get the down & right angle just like I want it, the throttle>elevator mix will at least help! Thanks again! You guys are always a hoot to watch. Keep up the good work and good luck with the future growth of FliteTest! God bless!!

[@Andrei5656]

Just ordered a Turnigy 9X and it'll be my first computerized remote i have. Great tips. Thank you FliteTest

[@marzvt]

Great tip to put out there guys. I have used throttle mixing for a while but I always used it on pusher planes like the wild hawk or to a lesser extent, the fpv raptor. Plans that when you mash the throttle it wants to push the plane downward which can be hairy on take off and landing. Alot of this type of plane have some compensation built in for the stock setup but the problem comes back when you upgrade the power.

[@falconeaterf15]

Would be nice to see an episode where Chad gets airborne running with the reflector. Im sure he just needs a bit of headwind. Carry on.

[@ZivijoAUS]

Great tip guys. Love your stuff. Im new to the RC game and learning every time from your show. Keep up the great work. Cheers from down under.

[@Chio_OB]

It took me an age to actually notice the lil' hatch on the RH side, that's where I put my rcvr, battery goes in the front battery box (silver cover on top) & yes the esc is right next to it. Its not a high power setup & in chilly Fife (Scotland) heat is not so much a problem. Good vid! I am going to setup the mixing just as JB described. Once the weather calms down for a maiden I'll try it both ways and monitor the heat. Once I've flown it if all's ok I'm going to put a wooden prop on!

[@Chio_OB]

Good tip! Really good for me as I have the DX8 and you showed how to setup the mixing with the opt out on/off. Thanks flitetest, always good to get info like this before you maiden!

[@kimjones198]

Gee you guys make something I think twice about ......so easy to understand thank you

[@bearmagic2002]

First. Thank you I have been trying to figure out how to use the mix on my dx6I and this helped me understand how that works a little. Second John B that mirror gave a health red glow. You guys do awesome work. I cannot wait till my speed kit gets here for my dad.

[@SteenPedersen]

Very good tip. I didnt know how to use that function on my DX. Very proffessionel production you have.

[@jezrougan]

Thanks for this helpful tip on this plane as I'm just about to buy that beautiful plane and often I like to glide in on final approach, so this tip is most helpful indeed. Thank Guys

[@KnightOwlVidz]

Great tip! I'm still learning how to get the most out of my DX6i, and this is a good feature to know. I'm excited to try it out. Hopefully it's not too windy tomorrow, but I live in (northern) Ohio too, so I'm not gonna get my hopes up too high. Keep up the good work, Josh/Josh!

[@cxdougxw]

Great episode guys. Funny and very informative. I honestly had no idea what mixing did on my dx7. Until now.

[@farlescom]

You guys should review the Multiplex FunCub! It's an interesting plane, it isn't quite like anything else you've reviewed.

[@Mindauxx]

Thats correct, I agree. Flite test makes just amazing videos.

[@SecretSqurrl]

Thanks FliteTest, I'm a newbie with a PZ Radian that rockets skyward under throttle.I'll be doing some mixing on the DX9 asap.Top marks for the back to basics vids.

[@dementia0090]

I just received mine today. I am perplexed. I need help! The battery box is full of ESC. Where do you have the ESC and where do you put the receiver? My motor board is mounted wrong so theres no way to get to the allen (grub) screws that secure the motor and cuts the air flow out so the angle may be wrong? If you put all three (battery, ESC, receiver) close to each other you're going to have a major heat problem and receiver interference. So, tell me what you did to solve this. Thanks

[@weeliano]

Thanks for demystifying mixing for me! Never figured out how they work or their purpose. Great explanation!

[@dementia0090]

Got everything together. Had to add 70g of lead to the front. Fly's great with no mixing required! Left the underwires off. Not for tricking. Front wing tongue pulled out and nearly lost the wing just doing a loop. Reinforced with two magnets. Fun plane.

[@StndbyHD1]

I just learned something new as well my first plane was the apprentice 15e you could chop the throttle and glide it in for a landing for days. Can't wait till next weekend when I school some guys with their parkzone t28s that say they can't do a power off landing.

[@WascallyWabbitHunter]

Would love to see a video on dual motor differential thrust mixing. Great job guys!

[@tr4nscend]

Josh. Brother, can you tell me which way to fold the antenna on 2.4 GHz Transmitters? What is the significance? Would love to be illuminated here. All the best.

[@g0arl]

Good explanation of mixing guys, and good demo, thanks

[@BrettAltea]

Great video. Always love them. However I think I would've added some downthrust on the motor first of all. But good to see how quick and easy. Possibly put up on your forum how to do the mix on the following transmitters: * Spektrum (which you did on the video) * Stock Turnigy 9x * A Turnigy 9x with er9x This way people won't have to spend too much time figuring it out. Especially with the terrible stock firmware on the 9x.

[@darthturner122]

i really liked the plane used in the videos and great tips

[@Cornerstone_Creative]

New video camera? Looks good!

[@zappulmo]

I appreciate these type of videos, thanks

[@lewandlo]

Great stuff guys. How about that plane that looks like an eagle . It is called the EPP eagle. You guys should see if you could get a hold of them to give it more exposure ? Just a thought , .Thanks for the hard work in making your helpful hints and info. You guys get my yes vote ..

[@cheezeball43]

One way I use mixing is for new pilots, to make the positive and negative effects of various inputs on the plane stronger like the adverse yaw effect to show and train them to counteract it. Also for limiting other parts of the plane to give teach them how to use each control surface more efficiently, like a lower throttle output at high elevator inputs to get them used to how angle of attack effects the plane. i slowly remove the mixing as the pilots gain skill and properly fly the plane.

[@FailedSquare]

a more common mix is putting in a little down elevator at high throttle input to keep the nose from climbing. i use that on a few planes.

[@IbnAir23]

what would be really nice ia if you guys go into the basics of nitro poweredplanes. trainers. how to setup up engines and everything. i think that would be a great avenue for flite test. What do you think???

[@RCAviationExpert]

I'm a little interested that the plane is covered, and the back of the fuselage isn't covered? Is there a reason for that or is it just for aesthetics?

[@jandirks]

Very good video, thank you guys!

[@foerester]

very nice, I was thinking about one plane, but the other one dogfighter by multiplex, I just changed the thrust angle easy fix.

[@cloudsplitter24]

Great tip guys!

[@oyvinator]

wish you guys could delve into (main) wing flaps.. i have plane with flaps, but i allways crash with it when using it, so any insight into whats yay or nay using flaps would be cool.. imho.. also.. these long range UHF systems.. and the FY31AP.. these are FPV stuff, so i bet you guys have exelent knowhow in these things.. thanks for informative episodes like this one:-D

[@Migueldeservantes]

Any possibility that you may show how to do it on the Turnigy 9X? Please?????

[@KarasuTenguSan]

Hi :) , nice idea :) - I am using DX6i /Elevon-Delta-Mix. It seems not to work with Delta-Mix. How is it possible to use this adjustment with Delta-Mix? Thx:))

[@Rex_Stuph]

The Escale Electroglide is a demon for that. The difference between elev. trim at glide (after all, it's a powered glider) and full beans is about 1/3rd of the trim throw.

[@MrudangSavsani]

hey can you guys make a video on how to mix in the turnigy 9x, because its really hard for me to mix some stuff because i dont know what " OFFSET, UPRATE AND DOWNRATE" mean..... nice video guys.... keep it up.....

[@RealCujo]

always great vids thanks for hitting this one up.

[@labooboo9]

how come HobbyKing isnt sponsoring you guys anymore?

[@bubbloo9]

Flight test is by far the best rc channel on youtube but I'm still afraid to spend a lot of money with HK because they have such a bad reputation as far as quality,honesty and customer service goes. Although,I bought 1 battery from them and had no problem.Maybe there's hope.

[@tannerboy1991]

bubbloo9 i built my own rc plane just buy some foamboard watch yt vids, find a design or make your own, cost me like £100 all parts, plus tools. one thing i would say is buy a decent charger, i bought the cheapest one and the battery wasnt charging. to get a replacement battery you need to provide pics of volatages and amps etc of each cell which you can only get from a non cheap charger.

[@tannerboy1991]

when i say non cheap i mean anytbing with a screen probs like £20-30 up

[@sdjb111]

Very nice video guys..

[@MRFIREMOUTH]

Do video on flaperons / spoilerons and elevons. Please show how to set them up and how they work!!!!!

[@chrismillersrcfamily]

thanks guys.. I tried this with my slow stick works great.

[@seanpaula8924]

very helpful. thankyou. it's the kind of info I'm looking for as i get started.

[@MagicSteve46]

can it be programmed with expo so on low throttle it gives a little up and when you cut the throttle it gives more up?

[@lw216316]

Please explain - the mix options showed rate and 2 places to enter - Josh skipped the first and went to the second and said this is low and made an entry there. What are those 2 options for - a 2 position switch ? so 1st entry is for 0- position and 2nd entry is for 1- position ? If so, when I enter values in both (different value for each) the display does not change when I toggle the switch back and forth ? I don't get it.

[@Mrdaddydaze1]

thank u guys i just learned something new

[@carlitoxbro10]

Hello , nice video , I wondering, is this suitable for 3d planes ? I wonder what would happen if I have the airplane inverted and I want to cut throttle? In this case the airplane would go down straight away. So this is just useful when the airplane is upright? Thanks you

[@pipeman451]

Nice explanation

[@Eiooeek]

Thanks for pushing the skills into the next level, in less than a blink..by the migxzing lol..yeah..i did like it, cool bros :D

[@geneticallyinferior1]

sorry josh scott, those arent really flying wires. this is modeled after the elder 40, which is modeled after the fokker eindecker. the fokker eindecker didnt have ailerons and it used the wires for wing warping, like the wright flyer

[@RCcrAzY1234]

Does everyone else agree that when you see a new Flitetest vid that you pretty much drop whatever your doing and watch it?

[@garyvale8347]

I am a beginner and have a high wing trainer plane that nosed up sharply when throttle was applied...too difficult to add downthrust washers to the engine mount so a friend added a mix 1 for THR / ELE ... ...when I look at the DX6 Tx screen it reads 6% 3%...0% offset....the plane now flys great and this keeps the nose from climbing when I apply power...but can you please explain what that 3% mix number is doing as I am not understanding that 3% number.....thanks

[@iscluiscaduk]

Great tip. thanks!!

[@lmdetect]

I'm confused. How does mixing in down elev help with a diving issue? Seems that would magnify it.. You said in the beginning that you were going to mix in up elev, but you mixed in down elev. Did you add two mixes to solve both the throttle up and chop throttle issues? If so, you didn't show this in the vid.

[@ChrisMisMYhandle]

they didn't mix down. im assuming tou said this because they modified the lower number? the reason for this is that the throttle 'off' position is all the way down instead of in the middle like the other channels. mixing in elevator on the negative side is essentially adding a mix at 0-50% throttle. ie the elevator will increase as the throttle tends from half throttle towards no throttle. I hope this is clear.

[@tommern89]

I was looking for something like this :)

[@FrostbiteUK]

Top Tip !

[@Deluxe312]

Pretty good idea

[@Grimreaper014]

Could you guys please review the Dynam Hawk Sky From Nitro Planes.

[@olirow]

Brilliant

[@cd4222]

Drag and Anti Drag wires go inside the wing. Flying / Landing wires are outside, holding the wing correctly to the fuselage.

[@MrSquishedsquashed]

What plane is that? It looks like an Eindecker but it has British markings...

[@Rip1Outdoors]

nice tip. thanks

[@Skydive4ever]

Great tip, thanks for posting :-)

[@ikeybenzaken5330]

How would mixing affect helicopters? Maybe rudder with throttle?

[@itch4travel]

How do you flight test for CG. Pitching my be caused by improper CG.Thanks.

[@SaToMojo]

Great landing at the end lol.

[@RCcrAzY1234]

they have been asking us to ask the manufacture/ store to review there products.

[@MrCasehatter]

good job and I've been flying for years and never used throttle mixing ?? I've mixed everything else even the ladies but not throttle Will keep in mind cause it never was in mind before lol

[@Soldier53flyer]

what happen to hobby king?

[@aesoft2009]

Your question and username baffle me.

[@imanplus]

Turnigy neck strap with DX-8???

[@geneticallyinferior1]

purely aesthetics. it is a hobbyking retro series pioneer. it is modeled after the top flite elder 40, which itself is loosely based on the full size fokker eindecker of ww1

[@iy1999]

i so agree thanks flight test

[@LordEvilSeph]

How to program this on turnigy 9x ? Thanks :D

[@ultimitchow]

im gonna try this for my next flight

[@flytoday]

good tip

[@geneticallyinferior1]

i think u missed the point. if u trim the plane with no throttle and the plane rises when u hit the throttle that is a thrust angle issue. we all agree on that. now to counteract that, the plane was trimmed with throttle, so it has down elevator to keep it level while on power. when they chop the throttle, the plane dives. understand? they were dealing with the same phenomenon but from the the flip side.

[@viralsawg6552]

what remote are they using can someone please tell me

[@MrWest1960]

CG not trim. Trim is a band aid of sorts for fine tuning an already balanced bird. A plane must first be CG balanced for optimum flight performance, understand. Fix CG, then address what the motor does to your flight path. Essentially what was demonstrated was to use the elevator to correct some other imperfection. Now please take what I have said as merely an opinion. I appreciate the counter thought too.

[@davonizdashit]

U should do a v tail mixing video

[@mw2dude2010]

so true

[@adit1001able]

i didn't know that !

[@MrH1tler]

I never answered to you :S is this a KZbin glitch, cuz it says that I did not answer to you :/

[@geneticallyinferior1]

I CORRECTLY ANSWERED HIS QUESTION

[@geneticallyinferior1]

sorry guys, i think this was the wrong plane to do a mixing vid. u should have used this plane as demo for thrust lines to counter act torque and p factor. the correct (and easiest method if u dont have a comp radio) would have been to add a few washers behind the motor to add down thrust, maybe even a little bit of right angle.

[@ChickenMan_420]

yes, I was just editing music and stopped, watched this entire video!

[@sparrow082]

Don't worry guys, things are going to change Beyond Your Wildest Dreams. Go ahead and try to imagine the future, you're not even going to come close.

[@simandreal]

You know, I think the idea of todays show was good but the plane is not good to show really what you'd said. Oh, and the color correction was a little bit to high...just try to keep the show natural and not so edited, what Im trying to say is: try to be like when you reviewed products, not so edited...more natural. But I will give you a "like" just because I love you....keep that in mind...regards

[@michaelparry9377]

Can i get a rewind....

[@numex106]

0:53 for skipping intro

[@numex106]

colours are a little flat

[@geneticallyinferior1]

THIS IS A FANTASY PLANE! there was no 1:1 version of this plane. read my previous comment on the elder 40 and fokker eindecker. LOOK UP THE ELDER 40!!!

[@spidal3]

the crickets drive me nuts.

[@pilotavery]

3:19

[@mindystorm]

Not sponsers with them anymore...