Kilian Jornet's Running Advice, UTMB 2022, Recovery, Nutrition and more!

[@csisnandi490]

My favorite takeaway from this episode, was the fact that Kilian said to all trail runners to don't be afraid to walk, walking is part of mountain running. For me this was one of the biggest inspiration that I could have gotten.

[@FlorisGierman]

Perfect, I'm so glad that he said this Csis. Good for athletes of all levels to hear.

[@samuelabbott6603]

I appreciated how much he encouraged us to listen to and trust our bodies, especially about output and recovery. His comment, “it’s okay to walk, the running will come.” Is always a good reminder.

[@FlorisGierman]

I love that part as well. The consistency, joy in training and good recovery will make us a stronger athlete if we can be patient and zoom out far enough.

[@paulpublic2435]

This interview reveals two extremes. On one hand "weather too good not to go", "ride with the girls", "negative thoughts during the race" etc, show Kilian is just like everyone else. On the other hand you hear what puts him on a completely different level. And it isn't just physical gifts and mad training. He really is a student of every aspect of the game and his place in it. Mindset at the start line (adjusted for an ultra), in tune with his heart rate etc etc while running, testing at aid stations (not for use in the race, but rather for later study) etc. All wrapped up in so much humility. Elite in something quite specific, and yet so universally relatable at the same time. Almost, but not quite, completely normal. I guess that's what Nnormal is.

[@FlorisGierman]

So well said Paul, two extremes that come together beautifully.

[@mikaelgahmberg605]

I say the same thing to people in our group of runners as Killian: It's ok to walk (the only difference beeing that we run on flat surface). But that's my take away :)

[@stefh1288]

Liked hearing Kilian say : " Train well but never to exhaustion. Save your best for race day". And also " Focus on the process not so much the result. There will be failures, learn from them ". I find this difficult, and i tend to beat myself up when races dont go to plan, but for the last 2,5 years i have been highly motivated, listening to my body, when i doubt skipping the hard session, and being able to string along this long period of 5 to 6 runs per week Without Injuries, mainly by finding joy and fun in today's run.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love these takeaways Stef! I can totally relate, it’s challenging not to beat yourself up when a race doesn’t go according to plan but these are indeed good experiences to learn from too. Glad you are now able to run injury free and enjoy the process! 👍👍

[@Trailrunner1978]

Best athlete interview I have ever seen. And with one of the best ever athletes. You really have a special gift Floris!

[@FlorisGierman]

Wow, thank you Knut, that means a lot to me!

[@BedaMurer]

I really like to listen to Kilian Jornet and I would never think about to compare his abilities with mine. Thank you Kilian and Floris, you guys are a huge inpiration to us. ......Yes Floris, it was worth it absoulutely to mention you with Kilian in the same sentense. It's not easy to listen to potcasts for 90 minutes usually, but I can listen to you for hours. Your youtube channel is a big motivation getting up every morning to go for a run. All knowledge helps us not to fail at races. You are a pain-killer then isn't it? We are prepared going there because of you told us how to practise. Thank you

[@FlorisGierman]

Awww wow, appreciate your kind words, that means a lot!

[@daveellis1592]

Biggest takeaway - don't train to exhaustion - training is training and racing is racing! What a nice guy...

[@FlorisGierman]

Absolutely! Great takeaway right there Dave!

[@flyingjjmonkey]

Phenomenal interview! I watched it because of Killian, but staying due to your talent as an interviewer Floris! So amazing to have someone interview and listen and not try to compete for the spotlight while their guest is speaking. Of Killian's comments - a few stand out to me. His comments on adaptations - he has SO MUCH time in through his life where he has adapted. But also was quite interesting to listen to the part on anxiety - it's not what I hear from interviews about him much. He does seem to be very calm so often. How he manages it through lifestyle choices is quite interesting. Also - all the comments on know yourself and enjoy the process. Not new messages, but ones that I always need reminders on. Thank you both for a great discussion!

[@raulbernal9208]

I like the part when Kilian talks about failure. Many people believe that failure is the end, but it is the best opportunity to improve. Congratulations for the interview, I really liked it.

[@FlorisGierman]

Great takeaway right there Raul! Reminds me also of Kipchoge's first attempt to miss the Sub 2 marathon goal and this became a stepping stone to him breaking Sub 2 the next try he did. Glad you enjoyed this conversation!!

[@raulbernal9208]

@@FlorisGierman It is true. The difference between good athletes and champion athletes is the reaction to failure.

[@javierrivas703]

For me a good lesson is when he coment about his negative thoughts during UTMB is something I've learn trough the years, try to keep away negative and take it easy, step by step until the end. Thanks for the interview is always very fun to listen kilian's experience!

[@FlorisGierman]

Great point Javier!

[@DavidPalacios.540]

This podcast is simply amazing. To me the best quote is: "Just do what you do because at the end of the day you love it, do not forget that" I am paraphrasing of course, but truly impactful phrase.

[@GregDixon-p3v]

I loved Killian’s view on Failure: Always FOCUS on the PROCESS & not the OUTCOME or RESULT of a race. Focus on what you have learned & achieved personally through the process. Reflect on what worked, what didn’t, & HOW you can do better next time. Such terrific advice ❤️💕

[@sethmthompson1]

"Failure is it's there all the time and it's important... That is the way you grow as an athlete and as a person". Seeking failure is just pushing yourself seen through another lens and probably part of the reason many people get into running slightly silly distances (whatever that means to you). I love how many times Kilian points out that you cannot just take another persons approach to these challenges / training, you have to keep failing to learn what works for you!

[@bchojnicki]

I really liked when Kilian talked about anxiety. That is something that I have to change :)

[@FlorisGierman]

Yes! Loved how open and honest he was to share his approach in that important topic!

[@gudea72]

"Focus on the process" and "forget the pace" are muy fauvorites takeaways. Great interview

[@FlorisGierman]

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[@thijsvisser]

Kilian adapts to whatever the situation throws at him and then he strategises his move based on this situation and his abilities at that moment. Pretty high level of self consciousness 🤩

[@johnalcantara6892]

How Kilian said 'don't be afraid of walking!" it's part of the sport of ultra and trail running. Forget about the pace, the distance and the time just have fun hiking or walking the mountain. this is why i love Kilian

[@angelhristov2933]

Great interview, Floris! My favourite takaway: the head is as much important in running as are the legs! Kilian put a lot of thought and reasoning in every aspect of his training and races which makes him like a swiss knife tackling the situations that are thrown at him during running.

[@victorisrunning]

The main takeaway for me was to hear the GOAT Killian saying: "Know who you are... That should be the first question anyone needs to know to plan their training, pace, race strategy and so on"... it is so true... and we forget about it many times and just "copy and paste" some training plan from a website, or running club without really adapting to your own strengths and weakness. Thanks for another amazing interview with Killian, I liked the first one but this one is even better. Great content and preparation for these interviews Floris which are getting better and better

[@cathytsai9774]

My favorite takeaway is "don't be afraid of walking. It's ok to walk and hike!" This is a great podcast. Thank you for hosting it.

[@DerekBoy27]

Thank you so much for a great interview! I also stopped drinking and don't miss it. 'Enjoy yourself ' - I tell my friends and family the same thing. Much appreciated. From South Africa.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love it, well done on your health and running journey Derek. So important to enjoy yourself! Cheers

[@Chemamun]

I have seen this episode twice and the entire show is a takeaway. This is gold information. I´ve never seen Kilian talking so clear and opened about his training and feelings. You nailed it Floris.

[@fiasco7617]

The most amazing is that he still talks about training and recovery with the most simple solutions/approaches. Like the ABC of how to workout. The rest of us think that it must be a super sophisticated plan to be a top athlete…

[@FlorisGierman]

haha, yes I loved that part! But then again when you look into his approach to training and racing over the years, he has definitely put a lot of time and effort into coaching himself for optimal performance, with lots of experiments, journaling, finetuning, etc.

[@fiasco7617]

@@FlorisGierman True! But for people just starting this is a great lesson. If this is the first interview they watch that’s a great start! For the beginners this can be a big boost to their confidence but also a good reason to slow down when they are overdoing it…. Very nice interview by the way 👍

[@catherinemillen7678]

Hi Floris amazing to see this in depth insight into Kilian. For me the Dad who is obsessed with getting onto the trails but sometimes to the detriment of family time hearing Kilian say that strength training can be a fun activity maybe with the family was refreshing. I listened to a podcast on the subject today and 4 experts didn't come up with this suggestion...Brilliant

[@trailrunningforlife]

My favourite quote in this interview has to be: "Well, failure it's there all the all the time, and it's important. It's a part of the game, it's a part of the journey, and it's where probably you analyse better." - great words, and something I need to remember more often. Thanks for this interview series. Brilliant stuff.

[@FlorisGierman]

Yes, so good to hear his thoughts on failure, that was spot on!

[@schalk-willemburger4346]

My favourite takeaway also relates to the concept of failure. Especially where he mentioned to change the way we think about failure because as he said if all goes well then we only know that everything was good. However, when we fail then we can actually analyse what went wrong and improve. A lot of times I am afraid of failure and then won't go for something and "play safe" but end up learning a lot less or even nothing. Amazing to learn from Killian's experience and wisdom!

[@FlorisGierman]

Learning from our failures is indeed super valuable, great takeaways!

[@LucaBaldassarre]

Thanks for hosting another information-laden interview with Kilian. My biggest takeaway is "learn who you are" to understand how to train, race, eat and recover. Kilian did a lot of self-experimentation and it's good that he reminds us to experiment ourselves too to learn what works and what doesn't work for each of us as different individuals.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love this, very well said Luca!

[@ricastc7037]

Love this interview 👍 Enjoy training/ nature Learn from failures Adaptations take time( do not Rush) Learn to listening tour body( acceptes volume or intensity?) Ok to walk No need to overly complicate the process with streght training, suplements, fancy tech to recover... that have minor performance gains... Kilian the best 💯

[@FlorisGierman]

Great lessons right there Ricas!!

[@praveenravindra5558]

This guy is so simple! No complications.. Keep it simple, enjoy it... He makes it sound so easy! How can one not like this guy, such a good persona! N kudos to you Floris for bringing such great ppl, asking great questions n keeping in mind how these conversations can benifit a common runner!

[@FlorisGierman]

Totally agree with you Praveen, glad you enjoyed it!

[@vickihunter8106]

I appreciated when Killian spoke of his struggle with anxiety as I can relate. I found running at a young age and it soothed me in a way nothing else did. At the same time, running can also feed our anxiety if we worry about our performance. My book, “Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World,” was recently published and examines these contradictions. Thanks for a great interview.

[@FlorisGierman]

Congrats on your book launch Vicki, sounds like you and Kilian have had several things in common. Glad running you a lot of joy. All the best on your running and health journey!

[@vickihunter8106]

@@FlorisGierman thank you. I appreciate your podcast and the work you are doing. All the best, Vicki

[@lindal986]

The takeaway, good racing validates good training. I appreciate the deep dive into all the different facets of Kilian's journey to UTMB victory, his mindset, and holistic approach to the community. Thank you both!

[@FlorisGierman]

Glad it was helpful Linda!

[@lukashuss7617]

The whole interview contains so many valuable lessons, thanks fo that! If I had to choose, my favorite lesson would be "not to be obsessed with the result, but to try to see whats been good, whats been bad and how you can do better next time" :)

[@anneliesleeuw]

So many insights to choose from, but my favourite takeaway was the reminder to focus on and value the process, and to not get too hung up on outcomes and results. Applies to much in life! I was impressed with Kilian's confidence in his process and preparation, and his positive mindset in the face of a setback like catching covid. The result of not just incredible talent but also years and years of dedication to the sport, of experience and learning. He continues to impress and inspire.

[@sabineehrstrom6160]

It's so touching and interesting to hear how he progressively learnt to deal with anxiety, thank's for the sincerity !

[@FlorisGierman]

Yes it really is, I found that part touching as well!

[@stevecoutts2740]

Great interview Floris, and so many thoughtful answers from Kilian. I liked his comments on energy management, especially the importance of being calm at the start of the race. At UTMB with all the noise and hype and excitement at the start-line it's easy to see how it could be an energy drain.

[@FlorisGierman]

Spot on takeaway Steve, energy management is so key. He mentioned in the first interview something about energy as well, with life / work stress, this was a great addition to that point on race day.

[@paulm706]

Always impressed by Killian’s humility. Takeaway - just enjoy being in the mountains, listen to your body, train sensibly, be patient and concentrate on process rather than outcome.

[@FlorisGierman]

That summarizes it very well Paul, great takeaways! Thanks for sharing

[@jarekbatkowski9039]

I really enjoyed listening to the interview again and I must say that listening to Kilian stops me breathing at times hahahaha.....Very interesting hearing him and sharing all his experiences. Definitely inspiring! For me listening to him and trying to pick one of the most important thing, topic or take a way is impossible! It's like asking me which Metallica's track is your favourite. Impossible! If I love doing something, love it with your heart and give it all you have. .....failures are more important than any success in terms of learning. So let it be the take away. I supposed to run Tamadaba trail marathon this morning but instead seating on the sofa, recovering and watching/listening to the basics by Kilian. Hahahaha. Thumbs up for your podcast Floris. Greetings from Gran Canaria

[@jimkwan1807]

I like the way Killian encourages to enjoy running. Does not always have to pressure even in the training. Good podcast!

[@FlorisGierman]

So true Jim! Important daily reminder for us 🙌 🙏

[@SanjeevSajjanK]

With six months to go for my toughest 50k ultra run in the mountains with killer elevation, I finally got tempted to see this podcast and I was amazed by the experience and suggestions by Killian. There isn't one but are so many takeaways in this master piece but my favourite is towards the very end.. Forget the training and pace.. The weight of it and just remember why you're doing it because you're doing it to enjoy 😍❤️ I love it more because it resonates with my motto.. How much fun a running can be. Thank you Floris, love your efforts to bring such valuable sessions to us.. Much appreciated 😊🙏🏻

[@jenniferross8955]

Great interview 👏😀! A good takeaway was the advice to know yourself and what training benefits you as an athlete rather than just blindly following a standard plan.

[@FlorisGierman]

So true Jennifer!!

[@jjsoledad8553]

I love the GOAT's training philosophy. I love his quote “you’re not racing the training, you need to raise the races.” Instead of long days in training, intensity distribution, emphasizing lots of easy volume and focused workouts.

[@elisabethnieva2382]

I really appreciated the answer about strength training: choose something you enjoy to compliment your running sessions and go for it! The fact of involving family or friends during training was amazing as well. Kind of: share your happy place with people who make you happy =)

[@FlorisGierman]

Well said Elisabeth, I loved that takeaway as well!

[@JgekZ]

Really love this episode from the GOAT of mountain ultra running. Forget about pace, walking is okay, don't obsess on the results, and learning that failure is always there.

[@FlorisGierman]

Spot on takeaways right there @splackd 👍👍👍

[@EduardoAnguloMW]

Another awesome episode. My favorite takeaway from this one is "don't be afraid to walk"... It's a very common mistake to just keep pushing the pace during the easy days while you're supposed to be in a low HR zone. Keep the good interviews coming!

[@bobogdanov1761]

The most valuable lesson ''Try to understand who you are '' !!!

[@niclaskullgard9946]

Thanks for a great interview. The level of questions and also Kilians answers is really adaptable for me as a non elite ultrarunner. My primary home takes are that of learning to know your body and not be afraid to take it slow.

[@johnb61]

Wow great interview. It is so easy to listen to Kilian. I love his philosophy of keeping it simple; Sleep and nutrition; no fancy and costly tools required for recovery.

[@FlorisGierman]

Absolutely agree, glad you enjoyed this conversation John, great takeaways!

[@ianclarito]

Thank you Floris for the interview! For me, it reinforces how we need to plan our nutrition well during the race and also listen to your body (no need to be a hero and run all the way from start to finish).

[@FlorisGierman]

Such an important lesson for longevity in the sport right there Ian! Well said

[@serlemolemo_08]

When you run trail or road, always be not afraid to walk. It is always okay to walk, and go a little bit hiking and eventually running will come. Always pleasure to hear the voice from the mountain goat, much appreciated. Kudos Floris.

[@FlorisGierman]

Totally Lemlem, walking can also be training! 👍

[@craigbarth7474]

Great interview - thanks! Incredible to hear he was likely racing Sierre Zinal whilst fighting Covid. Soo many great takeaways and my personal reinforcement is - 'it's like f' yeah it doesn't matter how you start, it doesn't matter the first half of the race'. I have a tendency to always start too fast (regardless of the distance) worried that otherwise I'll leave a lot of time on the course even though I usually struggle in the last 1/3... work in progress as even when I think I'm going slowly/easy I probably should still try to run even slower 😀

[@FlorisGierman]

Yes so nuts he raced like that at Sierra Zinal! slow down to speed up is real in training and racing!

[@WWROABM]

It was interesting to hear how he modified his race nutrition. Seems he is really listening to his body. And thanks for the piece on strength training. He sounds like a really functional strength trainer as he does many activities. Personally, my time in my home gym is like a haven and rejuvenates my reservoir. That said, his talk about skiing brings me back to snowboarding and the joy I used to get from doing it. I have to get back to snowboarding. Thanks for doing this again. He talks so normally and accessibly one could forget that he is the best of the best. Oh, good luck in Chicago!!!

[@FlorisGierman]

The race day nutrition and strength topics were definitely spot on. Fully agree, the goat is super down to earth. Thanks Wayne!

[@sebastiangrolein247]

Thank you for the great interviews. Love your way of handeling the conversation and Kilians down to earth honesty. Hard to pick only one special takeaway as there are quite many. Have to give it to Kilians way handling failure and keep looking at the long term journey instead of the short term outcome

[@FlorisGierman]

That means a lot, thanks Sebastian. Kilian's way of handling failure and long term vision are definitely great takeaways!

[@erwinschulz8418]

I appreciate the interview with Killian, and I was both encouraged and challenged about his comments near the end of the video about enjoying the race because this is what you chose to do, and that it's all part of the process. I had a race shortly afterward and I kept reminding myself of these facts, and it made the race much more enjoyable because, even though I didn't do my best, I did the best that I could where I was at. I am more encouraged to keep going realizing that this process will pay off the next time.

[@frankienle693]

Finally got time to watch this. Took Kilian’s advice and didn’t run a trail run as if it were a road run. Slowed way down, enjoyed the beauty of the woods, walked/hiked a bit, kept the HR super low….and totally loved it! Looking forward to more trails :). Thanks for the great interview Floris!

[@eduardaleitao5469]

This conversation was soooooo interesting that it's difficult to choose the favorite takeaway. But I think I have two things that just stuck in my mind. The first one is related to anxiety and is that we can do simple things such as keeping away from all the busy places to not get soo stressed about everything, especially on race day and the days prior to that. And the second takeaway is that it is ok not to train with high intensity. I noticed that workouts focused on velocity make me feel a lot of tension in my legs and it is more difficult to recover from them. Is definitely something that I'm going to be more aware and talk about with my coach. Thank you very much for letting us listen the lessons that this great human being and running legend, Kilian Jornet, has to share 😊🏃‍♀️

[@FlorisGierman]

Two great takeaways right there Eduarda, glad you enjoyed this conversation! 🙌 🙏 👍

[@josephlucassi4650]

This was such a great listen! My biggest take away has got to be not putting so much weight/pressure on ourselves and reminding us that we’re fortunate to do something we love and enjoy it! It’s so easy to go down the rabbit hole of comparing previous achievements, abilities & statistics etc. Thanks again Floris 👍

[@ericchevalley]

Great Interview! Thank you! Loved Killian's wisdom and humanity. Particular takeaways for me: - Learn about your own capacity and adapt your training to you. - Learn from your mistakes. Those are related but speak to me at the moment, as I'm still figuring what is best for me. I hope we will learn more about his blood samples during UTMB. I wonder if Killian does, or would, enjoy walking barefoot in nature, since he is so drawn by it to feel better. Walking on grass is incredibly grounding and calming.

[@FlorisGierman]

Great takeaways right there Eric and nice additional topics to explore further at some points with Kilian as well. 🙌 🙏

[@paulburns8208]

Great interview - listened twice! My favorite takeaways: Kilian builds/has an absolutely massive aerobic base, he leans heavily on "feel," and he lives / runs with heart!

[@dastolh]

"Don't focus on the outcome, but the process" is my takeaway quote from this episode!

[@didoma73]

Everybody says that now, but what happens when the outcome doesn't produce the result that the process predicted?

[@FlorisGierman]

Great point, many athletes can be hyper obsessed with the race day outcome only, vs looking at the bigger picture and seeing what things went well and what can be improved for the next training cycle.

[@williambarksdale1235]

It's refreshing to hear him speak of listening to his body. If he doesn't feel like running, he doesn't. That coupled with the importance of sleep is crucial. Thanks for the interesting interview!

[@elsiel5937]

Thanks for leading such an informative conversation! One of the main reason we like Kilian so much is that he's always so humble and down to earth and generous when sharing his own experience and knowledge! And again, huge congrats to him!

[@FlorisGierman]

Couldn't agree more Elsie!

[@sijetacido]

Wow! I really love how he said to not be afraid of walking. Some think that trail running is pure running, when in fact it is a balance of walking and running. Choose your battles wisely

[@FlorisGierman]

Exactly, time on feet is key, walking is also training :D

[@ilijadobre]

I liked the most exactly this advice you have put at the beginning of the video. Being an amateur runner it's sometimes difficult to relate with elite sportsmen like Killian. To hear him giving such fundamental advice that can be applied literally to anyone who is into running is so reassuring. And on a side note, he has such a nice personality. 🙂

[@FlorisGierman]

:D I often try to edit a few takeaways at the intros to give an idea of what the podcast is about. Totally agree it's nice to hear the relatable fundamental lessons by Kilian that apply to pretty much every athlete!

[@jjlopez5764]

The heart rate analysis is amazing. Incredibly insightful and helpful. I appreciate the information as it relates to his strategy. Brilliant.

[@FlorisGierman]

COROS surely did a great job with that detailed breakdown, eye opening to see the grade adjusted pace in combination with theHR analysis too. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jjlopez5764]

@@FlorisGierman For sure, as a 48 year old trail runner, heart rate is important to me and while our Zones are different, the take away is about pace and strategy as it relates to HR Zone - stellar calculations. And stellar interview as always!

[@heatherhepplewhite7885]

I love this interview! The biggest takeaway for me was that the race and the result of the race should not be the focus; the result should just affirm the process or the training. That pulled me back to the question of why I run. It’s not to win races or check of the box of certain distances-it’s because I love to run! That really just brought me back to being a kid and suddenly bursting into a run just because I felt like it. Somehow that got buried inside me and I don’t seem to let it out anymore. With the love of running as the focus instead of the race result, I think I’ll enjoy the races more and perform better!

[@ChrisEvideo]

My biggest takeaway from this and the last conversation was patience. I’m planning on seriously getting into z2 training for the first time over the winter months and already feel like patience is going to be a keyword!

[@FlorisGierman]

👌 perfect takeaway right there Chris!

[@leocriscuola]

Possibly the most I have ever learned about running in one hour. Excellent questions and answers. #1 takeaway-Don’t be afraid of walking.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love it, so happy to hear that and glad you like the takeaway about the walking comment, that was spot on!

[@zwiftfaster]

Favorite tip: Don't train to exhaustion...leave something in the tank.

[@FlorisGierman]

That's a great takeaway right there, being able to train again the next day. Cheers! 👍

[@jherizaldo11]

I really love to watch interviews with Kilian and how he explains things about what he learned in the past. Very insightful as always and 'simple' in a way that even someone who's new to running would understand. My takeaway would be, that no matter how bad you want to achieve something, don't forget to enjoy the process. Just run, because that's the first reason you love it.

[@danielweststeyn]

Thanks Floris for another great conversation with Kilian. I'm actually a bit surprised to see how high his low intensity heart rate zones (AE and AP) are compared to the 'default' zones for someone of his age. Inspires me to take a lthr test and see if there's a deviation for myself as well. Interesting stuff!

[@ameliavrabel2125]

Love his perspective to enjoy the training, and the racing, and be grateful that we get to do it. Thank you so much for another insightful conversation!

[@FlorisGierman]

Such a good daily reminder right there Amelia! Thank you for everything you do for the PB program and running community 🙌 🙏

[@terokoskela5448]

So wise and generous! Very good work with these two episodes Floris! Thank you so much! I realized that I can go back to my Strava data to see if I can find the explanations to my injuries and the best adaptations! And that it's possible to be the GOAT even if you don't do hard intervals or sprints... Thank you again!

[@FlorisGierman]

That's definitely eye opening Tero!

[@Gra100]

Floris - you interviews add so much value for me. Learning from Killian is so inspiring and meaningful!

[@FlorisGierman]

Really happy to hear that! I learn a lot from each and every of these conversations as well :)

[@markusmillfahrt7780]

Thank you, Kilian, for sharing your experience and insight into your physiology and psychology during and after the race. Much appreciated 🙂

[@thecasualrunner67]

Awesome interview. So much of you as the individual gets to define what’s possible

[@radosawkowalikowski7405]

It's very important to hear from athletes like Kilian about failures which are a part of success. We can't be afraid to fail, this is the crucial time when we can learn from it the most. Moreover, hearing from Kilian that "it's okay to walk, the running will come" makes me admire this guy even more. This is so important nowadays when everyone is trying to copy professional athletes and always train too hard.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love both takeaways, well said!

[@oriolguillen5097]

Floris, thanks for the interviews! I've heard a lot of interviews with Kilian, but these ones are different. Top world class for both of you. I really enjoyed. It's really difficult to choose one simple quote or lesson, there is a lot from this hour, but I would say: "Don't focus on the outcome, on the result, focus on the process, on the whole journey". Good luck in Chicago!

[@FlorisGierman]

That means a lot Uri, I tried to discuss some topics that will still be relevant in 5-10 years from now as well, vs going too deep into specific timely events. Love that takeaway, spot on reminder for everyone! Thanks!

[@herbieyau]

Thank you for this great interview episode. My favourite quote is "it’s okay to walk, the running will come". Kilian's internal emotion of accepting slow and fast is very important when we are in the trail.

[@FlorisGierman]

The intensity discipline that Kilian, Kipchoge and Dr Seiler talked about in recent episodes is definitely a great take away! 👍👍

[@joaopedrochambino3350]

What i appreciatted was as how he shows the simplicity in every aspects of his life.

[@FlorisGierman]

Yes he totally does, spot on João!

[@antonmarmelid7053]

I really appreciate his approach to training, racing and recovery. You come a long way to just learning to listen to your body. And also refreshing thinking regarding strength/mobility training - find alternative way to move your body and do what you enjoy to do.

[@FlorisGierman]

Couldn't agree more Anton! 👍

[@binhluu1226]

Thank you both for the interviews! Big Takeaway - Focus on the process and not on one result. I could have a big PR and missed the BQ time, that would considered a failure in my mindset and upset. I am now more at ease with your MAF Holistic approach/process.

[@FlorisGierman]

Happy to hear that Binh!!

[@mohdirwansophan78]

Great advice from the legend at minutes 55:40, appreciate the interview, thank you so much.

[@FlorisGierman]

Not being afraid of walking is definitely a great takeaway!! Glad you enjoyed this conversation

[@michaelmarchand7336]

So awesome. Love how down to earth Killian is and how practical his training tips are for runners of all levels. Great job.

[@FlorisGierman]

Couldn't agree more Michael!

[@behcrosslozorno]

Perfect podcast Floris, I loved to hear that every trainig is a part of a jorney, even a race it is a part of our journey through our running life. As he metioned training at High Intensity must be only a bit compared to Low Intesity what I train as well. 80/20. All the best to you and your podcast. Stay strong and healty.

[@keithkilgorejr5100]

I appreciated him telling us how much time he spends in zone 1 and letting our fears guide us not deter us. "Energy management is more important than the shape" is possibly the best advice one can give to a runner or any athlete.

[@FlorisGierman]

100% agree Keith!

[@khaalidbashir1894]

My favorite segment was hearing Kilian talk about race nerves especially once followed by the next section on race data.. He's such a relaxed guy with others but gave an insight into being strict with himself when he described nerves as a waste of energy so learning how to rationalize his way out of them. His bpm management during races is something he has obviously developed in 'easy' training but his ability to not burn all his matches, even over 100 miles +10,000m is unreal.

[@FlorisGierman]

Very well said Khaalid!

[@seanhaworthvii]

I love what KJ was saying about knowing your own physiology. So important for me not try to fit into someone’s model but train the way need to as a lower volume capacity athlete it a great reminder to be secure in what works for YOU. Thanks for hosting this convo ✌🏼

[@FlorisGierman]

Love that takeaway as well Sean, spot on!

[@nathankempf1990]

Thank you so much for this video! There is a LOT to take from this one, but there are two points that really talked to me. - His hydration and fuel strategy. I struggle with this a lot, but hearing him talk about it made me realize I make it WAY more complicated than it should be. - The entire section related to anxiety is also one that really touched me. I struggle with anxiety on a daily basis, and it can get in the way of my training and performances. So to know an elite athlete goes through the same motion is really reassuring. My anxiety is actually what drew me to trail running at first: Having to focus on where I put my feet keeps my thoughts at bay for a while. I don't deal with anxiety the way he used to, but having his hindsight on the matter is definitely something that was important for me to hear.

[@FlorisGierman]

yes eye opening to realize elite experience this as well! Thanks for sharing your takeaways Nathan, spot on!

[@kettigress]

Understanding who you are is the key point to the success, truly ❤️ as an average person is illusive and does not exist ❤️

[@FlorisGierman]

Love that Kate, well said!

[@rushodai929]

My favorite, I've copied and added it to my quotes page on my phone: "...at the end of the day...a training session is not a race...a lot of people are racing the training session, like you are having the goal of a session is to break a PB. I like a session where I'm running a six minute mile after fasting, and after a 15 mile run at zone 3 rather than being able to run one mile at 5 minutes being fresh, and having good recoveries and eating. Because the adaptations will be very different, and for ultra running and races it will be much more effective." I love group runs because I can touch base with my running friends, but I rarely run the same pace as them. So I'm usually running faster than I should. Which works fine for 5K training, but I make it a point to do my long runs solo, so I can better control my pace. Did my first 50k trail race in April 2023, and am planning a 30 mile unsupported unmarked trail race in September. I didn't train smart for my first ultra, so I've taken a lot of mental notes for the next. Thank you for this interview!

[@alexandrecaron3040]

Sleep is so important!! I like the way everything looks easy and simple!! This guy is amazing!

[@FlorisGierman]

YES! Sleep is such an important part of training. Agreed, Kilian rules

[@timotej5]

Great interview. Killian is a class act. I love his simple and humble approach not just for running and nutrition but also for dealing with failures and overcoming them. I think we can all learn a lot from him. Such a great human!

[@FlorisGierman]

He really is class act in many ways! Glad you enjoyed this conversation Timzz

[@timotej5]

@@FlorisGierman Floris, thank you for bringing such a great content to us! Channels like yours are what KZbin is all about. At least for me :)

[@allofthemmilkingwithgreenf7493]

Great interview. I always appreciate Killians reminder to listen to your body and never push too hard. Like: put in the effort, adapt slowly over the years of training. Never rushing anything. Also mixing things up. Patience is something to hone and it makes you appreciate the process. This might be more than just running advice tbh.

[@FlorisGierman]

Definitely more than just running advice indeed, well said!

[@burillakcsaba]

Thanks for both of you to take the time and sit down for this open conversation. I liked the whole discussion but if I had to mention a part, I especially liked the UTMB review section where you discussed how the race went on. Interesting to see the feelings and the data in comparison and how the plan goes out of the window. Even elite athletes need to adapt their strategy on race day. The key takeaway if to assess yourself: where you are in your training, how fit you are, what are your ambitions, how much time do you have, what are your weaknesses. The other important lesson is that no race is too important (this is hard to digest when we train for years), but consider it only as a part of the whole journey. Two very nice persons talking, enyojable conversation, will listen again! Thanks for all the editing and compiling job, Floris! Also, the best luck for Chicago!

[@FlorisGierman]

His UTMB breakdown with race day strategy was super eye opening to me as well Csaba. Glad you enjoyed this conversation. Thank you!

[@blagojmilenkov72]

Great interview, thanks to both of you! Everything was important.....

[@FlorisGierman]

:D Glad to hear that Blagoj!

[@markyoung6978]

"Know who you are." The best advise ever!

[@FlorisGierman]

Spot on! Great takeaway Mark

[@tomekwolny5606]

Wow. Re-love Kilian after this interview. How open he was.

[@FlorisGierman]

Haha, happy to hear that Tomek!

[@this.7]

Hi Floris, i love your content, it’s encourage me to do better in my training and a lot of lesson to do in a right way ‘focus on the process, not the outcome’ ‘you have to love your training’

[@FlorisGierman]

100% great takeaways right there. Thank you Ahmad!

[@markheavey650]

It's the simple things In running, remember you are doing it because you want to do it, you chose to do it so when it gets difficult find the joy in what you are doing in that current moment because I am blessed to be able to do what I love 😊 great interview, great insight into the mind of the greatest "mountain runner" to ever lace a pair of shoes. Thank you.

[@FlorisGierman]

Love that!

[@taylorlayton4508]

i like your question about failure setting you up for success, and Kilian's response that failure is just part of the process. if you aren't failing, you probably aren't trying hard enough or setting ambitious goals.

[@FlorisGierman]

Very well said Taylor. Totally in line with what Kipchoge is about as well, lots of similarities between those too.

[@julianrobinsonatgmai]

What I always takeaway from listening to Killian is that it is how simple he makes everything. Yvon Chouinard says ‘The hardest thing in the world is to simplify your life; it’s so easy to make it complex.’

[@FlorisGierman]

Spot on Julian, love that, very well said!

[@DingDong-fq2mo]

Another great interview. Thanks, Floris. Thanks, Kilian.

[@FlorisGierman]

Thanks so much Ding Dong!

[@guzgrant]

The take always here are that simplicity , nature and authentic introspection validate performance far more than convoluted commodified external interventions . You apparently can’t buy good form .