Building A Super Compact IEM Rig!

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@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 2 жыл бұрын
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@oscara.garcia5136
@oscara.garcia5136 2 жыл бұрын
Great Videos Always ,My Current IEM rig I modeled after your Previous Build Videos Using HA you guess it an X-32 Racklol.... OK My questions is I play in Multiple bands but on my other one not all members have IEM or care to use them .... this particular compact model build as a Mixer would a Midas M32-c do the trick as well seeing as it's similar footprint as the presonus you're using here
@ayherdofturtles
@ayherdofturtles 2 жыл бұрын
Fluff, there's a whatsapp bot with your image on here. Just fyi
@kdsz944
@kdsz944 Жыл бұрын
Great build! Can you please elaborate why not the WIFI system from audiofusion but the Sennheiser, is it not that reliable or maybe too much latency???
@rocketsauce5067
@rocketsauce5067 5 ай бұрын
FYI Motu makes an interface in half rack format with avb that would interface directly with that 16R.
@BleedingUtopia
@BleedingUtopia 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about how you hook and run it through the computer
@ryancox2134
@ryancox2134 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.. If your mixes are in mono as wired in that shot... why didn't you just use three transmitters and put the packs in focus mode left and right? Use the half rack size combiner and you have an entire rack space free
@DrewAspinwall-1
@DrewAspinwall-1 2 жыл бұрын
And they could swap out the super expensive AC3000 for the 1/2 space AC41. Plus you cut out the work of scanning 2 additional freqs per show.
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
Lot more complications can happen that way
@BadEagle
@BadEagle 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought :)
@TinoSchulz1990
@TinoSchulz1990 3 ай бұрын
@@DrewAspinwall-1 I wonder why they went with that expensive AC3000 anyway
@Nilsje
@Nilsje 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Fluff, very interesting! What do you do for the drums? And I guess your mixes are in mono right?
@Thomogon
@Thomogon 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Fluff mentioned that the drums are so loud on stage that they don't need IEM's to hear them. Basically the drummer only needs to hear the clicktrack and the rest of the band.
@GrittyTones
@GrittyTones 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thomogon while that may be true, as a drummer, when you put on your in ears and start to get the rest of the mix you going and everything, no matter how loud the drums are, it can be hard to play without hearing at least a little bit of kick or even so much as a trash can mic.
@GrittyTones
@GrittyTones 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, their mixes are in mono
@SamueleForte
@SamueleForte 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrittyTones i agree, my drummer hits pretty hard, but with good isolation i always enjoy a bit of kick/snare in my iem mix.
@GrittyTones
@GrittyTones 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamueleForte yea, i hit hard (sometimes a bad thing haha) but i still love alot of kick
@xforeverwarx
@xforeverwarx 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever have a look at the Yamaha EAD10 in order to get a stereo „mix“ of your drums into the IEMs?
@gianttreeproductions3947
@gianttreeproductions3947 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s a great idea…
@jamsscott
@jamsscott 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I do and I love it
@johnbeamon
@johnbeamon 2 жыл бұрын
Those flat-top XLR plugs are the real deal. I like this rig, a LOT. Thanks, Fluff.
@Max-ge7sv
@Max-ge7sv Жыл бұрын
160$ for unsoldered cables 😂 omg
@andrewdecord182
@andrewdecord182 Ай бұрын
They suck
@evilevon
@evilevon Жыл бұрын
Hey, I know this video is old, but I was wondering why you switched from the x32 rack to the presonus, aside from being compact. I'm in the market and was just wondering about the pros and cons of each.
@vivekzz232
@vivekzz232 Жыл бұрын
Pursing music is sooooo expensive 😢
@BrianSimmons
@BrianSimmons 2 жыл бұрын
You could do stereo IEM by going with a Behringer X32 Rack (or another rack console that has enough I/O and busses to support it). (EDIT - I just realized that you used a X32 Rack on the original build). Of course that would add another 1U in rack space unless you could get really creative with the back of the rack. Perhaps the combiner would fit behind the IEM transmitters for example. Otherwise it seems like a waste to buy 5 IEM sets only to use mono. Of course this will give you built in capacity if a transmitter or two failed on the road. Also, while I'm sure you did your homework on the allowable wireless frequencies in Europe, it probably would have been good to mention that this needs to be researched and addressed prior to purchasing equipment because the allowable frequencies may be different depending on what country you are in.
@DustyFixes
@DustyFixes 7 ай бұрын
Let's talk build the most compact, functional IEM rig that a lot of guitar players really want. I practice guitar and singing at home. I need an IEM system that lets me hear myself and my guitar. No other singers or other musicians. No big mixing boards, or ANY mixing boards for that matter. Just a way to hear myself sing and hear my guitar with a pair of IEM's. I can't believe that someone hasn't come up with a way to do that for people who just want to practice at home!
@chuckralenkotter
@chuckralenkotter 5 ай бұрын
You could just plug your guitar into the right and your vocals into the left of the IEM receiver. You’ll need some kind of preamp for the mic.
@zipthedrummer
@zipthedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I’m getting confused by the “tracks” portion. Looks like main out L and R is going to one input and one output which seems wrong… 😂 cause I see the red designation for output in your list of input but then the tracks yellow portion flow seems to confuse me
@shawn98ag2
@shawn98ag2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess the maroon (dark red) lines (helix & vox) should only take up 6 inputs, not 7, (but thats just a guess) leaving ch7&8 for the stereo tracks.
@gregmcveigh9966
@gregmcveigh9966 2 жыл бұрын
Does being in Europe affect the wireless frequencies that are available on your US-delivered Sennheiser's?
@GrittyTones
@GrittyTones Жыл бұрын
Probably posted way too long ago for anybody to see this or for you to see this. But I can't really imagine being able to play a gig without hearing the drums in my ears. Something I've seen growing in popularity with my drumming friends is them using a Yamaha ead-10 for their in-ears. Is this something you would ever entertain the idea of doing? Having at least the kick in my ears is pretty much vital for my playing and on past IEM builds I see that you will either use just a trash can mic or no mics at all to save on space. With the EAD 10 all you need is two cables going from the module to the mixer and you wouldn't even have to send this to front of house.
@tomasslavetinsky6554
@tomasslavetinsky6554 Жыл бұрын
We use it same way, actually one cable is enough (for mono mixes).
@GrittyTones
@GrittyTones Жыл бұрын
@@tomasslavetinsky6554 Dope! I prefer stereo mixes, for the group that I do sound for everyone has a mono mix just because it's easier and the qcs they have me working with is horrible, at the other Studio that I'm working at we just got a Midas M32, if it wasn't for the sheer size of it, I would fully be using this to run monitors and front of house
@atomicwatts
@atomicwatts 2 жыл бұрын
JUST got back from a 20 day tour in Europe with our IEM rig, similar but with an X32 and a hand wired split. Worked flawlessly, except for flying. Even with a custom foamed pelican case the TSA unscrewed parts, ripped off rack handles and beat the living shit out of it on both the way out and the way back. It's seriously a life changing tool, but be prepared for total fuckery once you hand it off to the airline.
@JosephSmith-lm4ri
@JosephSmith-lm4ri 2 жыл бұрын
What's the point of ripping apart an IEM rig and beating it to hell? Those things seem to be (mostly) so compact that you can't hide shit in them.
@atomicwatts
@atomicwatts 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephSmith-lm4ri No idea. Standard issue TSA savagery.
@GeetarSi
@GeetarSi 2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into if you need to adjust the frequencies used? I believe different parts of Europe have different frequency licence ranges
@psmail007
@psmail007 4 ай бұрын
Love this ... But so many questions ... How do you power everything? Why not use a Presonus 26C ... it's narrower? Does the S8 split only mics and are instruments split at the source (perhaps with DI?) ... And if so do you send them to the rack balanced (e.g. double DI) or unbalanced? If unbalanced is noise an issue? Any reason you didn't use the wireless in split mono?
@JeremyHorn
@JeremyHorn Жыл бұрын
Hey man, trying to put a rig just like this together. Question, why did you go with the 68c for your clicks and tracks and not just use the internal digital outputs from the studio live? Am I missing something? Appreciate your input in advance.
@12DanB
@12DanB 2 жыл бұрын
Love the look of the XLRs. Great vid, love seeing your gear walkthroughs. I always learn something
@edgarsrakovskis
@edgarsrakovskis 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I understand everything but the drummer's inputs. How is this handled? Where are you all getting kick, snare and/or OH sounds from? Maybe someone can help me with this, thanks!
@ibanezguitars360
@ibanezguitars360 2 жыл бұрын
Hey fluff. Can you make a video. Basically the complete dummies guide to IEM and IEM systems. Like from the ground level. Terminology. What stuff does. Etc. Etc.
@djabthrash
@djabthrash 2 жыл бұрын
these videos already exist on YT (check out the one made by Scott Uhl among others))
@onefourteen
@onefourteen 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have backups for those front XLRs? I would be worried about TSA snipping or breaking those.
@mirandazohran
@mirandazohran 5 ай бұрын
Hey hi, how would you rate the Allen & Heath CQ-20B or the CQ-18T for this very same purpose :)
@Zazmiz
@Zazmiz 7 ай бұрын
I'm a bit lost, if the mixer goes down, how can that mini interface take over? It just has 2 inputs.
@JohnMSD
@JohnMSD Жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the patch bay in the back? Can't you just send a snake from the back of the splitter straight to FOH? Isn't a snake already going to go from the patch bay to FOH or am I missing something? Just trying to understand your intention with that unit!
@joelvandam
@joelvandam 7 ай бұрын
As a vocalist I really need stereo in my in-ears. Guitars to the side. Vocals in the middle. How would you go about getting stereo signals with 5 players?
@mrshaneyt43
@mrshaneyt43 2 жыл бұрын
A simple rig ..🤣😂😅I will take your word for that
@danielvibe7139
@danielvibe7139 5 ай бұрын
Did you bring your own mics? Especially in cases where you dont supply all the equipment yourself, like mics for instance i would like to know how that works on stage, how the sound engineer reacts and how/if it complicates matters for other bands you share the stage with. If you dont supply your own mics then you have to insert the iem rack in between thr mics and thr FOH snake (?) Sorry, im a total neewb asking
@mbgmail5911
@mbgmail5911 2 жыл бұрын
What a dumb, overly expensive, overcomplicated setup. Sooo many things that can go wrong with this.
@sozinhonosotao
@sozinhonosotao Жыл бұрын
What could be better than that? I’m really into make a simple setup for my band
@mrjamesleewhite
@mrjamesleewhite 2 жыл бұрын
@riffsbeards Hey Fluff! Any chance I could get a link for that rack mount antenna/power supply?
@dannudelman9845
@dannudelman9845 Жыл бұрын
Excelent video! I am currently in the process of building a carry-on playback + monitoring rig for an artist I work with and having a hard time fitting the racked Sennheiser G4 IEMS in our pelican with the propriatary rack mouinting kit. I noticed that the racking solution you used for your G4's doesnt have the metal bit that sticks out on the propriatary Sennheiser mounting kits. Would you or anyone in the comments be able to tell me what you used to rack your IEM transmitters? I am currently using a rack shelf but it weighs a good 3.5lbs which I'd like to trim down on ideally. Thanks for the help!
@Anthixy
@Anthixy 5 ай бұрын
Hey man, are you sending the Mixes from the mix output to the G4 mono input? Or is it stereo? What makes the presonus better than a RackX32 ? :) nice video man
@umbertopolanco4159
@umbertopolanco4159 11 күн бұрын
Does the S8 address the issue when using phantom power mics? I don't want to send 48v to front of house mixer and toasted.
@Simon-qr7ur
@Simon-qr7ur 2 жыл бұрын
Building ... is more like loading a rackmount
@theiranxican7412
@theiranxican7412 2 жыл бұрын
Badass rig! But for us average joes it's just not obtainable. I'm sticking with my mixer(s) and xfive u4 iem system. Good enough for me.
@alexciona08
@alexciona08 Ай бұрын
Does the Focusrite 8i6 fit where the PreSonus Studio 68c goes?
@JeremiahMcGowan
@JeremiahMcGowan 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this after the tour and his recent video discussing how the airline got their gear stuck in the states is so weird. So much respect for Fluff and the band!
@andrewdecord182
@andrewdecord182 5 ай бұрын
YO, I think this is the move, but how to the drum mics come into play? For example, in this type of setup could you have the sound guy mic the drums and just take an input from that into the mixer? Or would we need our own snake and mics??? please help BIG FAN!!!
@rondorthecruel124
@rondorthecruel124 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewdecord182Judging by the diagram posted, I can’t say for sure, but it seems like exactly what you described may be what they are doing. Have FOH mic the drums directly (whether they supply the mics or the band), send the band a single AUX send of only drums, which goes into the splitter, which then goes into all of their IEM mixes. Would love to hear confirmation on that though. Regardless, it sounds like that would be a reasonable solution.
@AdollaMusic
@AdollaMusic 5 күн бұрын
@@rondorthecruel124 They said in another video that they never do drums in ears as the drums are always loud enough on stage to not need them directly in their IEM.
@jakeyoung1231
@jakeyoung1231 2 жыл бұрын
You’re such a wealth of knowledge! Thank you so much for this!
@noname3715
@noname3715 2 жыл бұрын
I built essentialy the same setup a few years ago for my band. Using a soundcraft mixer and 2 G4s with two mono mixes for four people and having a drummer on a cable with a behringer headphone preapm (i cant remember the model) to save some money. We also have Orange Tiny Terrors, a sans amp pedal and mooer radar cab simulators built into the back of our 6u rack. We only play local clubs and an occasional festival so the rig is overkill for what we do but we had a lot of fun building it.
@eugeneeasthon5906
@eugeneeasthon5906 9 ай бұрын
"this is a very simple rig." Me- feeling like a total moron, because I am completely lost.
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks 2 жыл бұрын
Fuff, are you going mono out of the Helix into the Presonus Studio IR and then splitting that to IEMs and FOH respectively? Are you still using the 2x12 for Stage Volume? No stereo rig...really?
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 2 жыл бұрын
Yep Mono everything, using a 2x12 for stage volume
@AlexGAlexG
@AlexGAlexG Жыл бұрын
can someone explain to me why there is no drums in put into this or their monitors?
@ZackSeifMusic
@ZackSeifMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve referenced your earlier vids for the IEMs builds I’ve done with my old bands. This is cool for future knowledge 😁
@deedeecobain
@deedeecobain Жыл бұрын
how did you power all the gear without a power conditioner and would you do it again?
@MrAndrewpederson
@MrAndrewpederson 2 жыл бұрын
That is one nice looking IEM rig! From what I see you could have run two G4 wireless in mono focus mode for 4 body packs, drummer could cable to the phones out of the mixer for IEM and then only used one of the 4 antenna splitters which is a half space. That would have saved 2U of space on the total build and close to $4K in gear. Those flush XLR's are sweet though.
@aldo.a.fierro
@aldo.a.fierro 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed... my band uses just one stereo mix for everyone, except the drummer, who gets a phones-output direct mix for him. Saves a lot a space. You have to make compromises, of course... but it's worth the cost!
@ilpatongi
@ilpatongi 2 жыл бұрын
@@aldo.a.fierro But doesn't this mean that every two of you guys need to share mix volumes tho? Or is it just a stereo to mono compromise?
@aldo.a.fierro
@aldo.a.fierro 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilpatongi both... we use a MR18, wich has 6 aux outputs... so you can only have 3 different mixes for stereo monitors. Having said that, with only one wireless transmitter, everyone will have the same mix, except the drummer, of course... he has his own mixes, as his wired and close to the IEM rack.
@ilpatongi
@ilpatongi 2 жыл бұрын
@@aldo.a.fierro Yes this was my exact concern, we are a 5 person band and we usually run wired IEMs but with 5 separate mixes. With the G4 Twin you can't have two mixes per transmitter but only one, so I guess I'm up for buying 5 individual G4s then...
@aldo.a.fierro
@aldo.a.fierro 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilpatongi That sounds great, but the cost, overkill! We use Phenyx pro wireless units. They're great for medium or small venues, and they're very budget-friendly. We are a 4 piece band, the drummer gets one direct stereo mix for him, and then with two wireless transmitters we can have two stereo mixes for the rest... usually is one for the bass player and the other one for the two guitars, as we pan the guitars 80-20, it's easier to hear yourself.
@focadacian4120
@focadacian4120 10 ай бұрын
I assume you don’t have acoustic drums in the band,the channel count on the presonus is a little tight.
@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Жыл бұрын
Why the seperate interface, when the 16R is also an interface!
@bigmasherX
@bigmasherX 6 ай бұрын
Quick ?: Any reason you're not using the 2 channel IEM units? Just curious if that would have made the rig more compact? Thanks!
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 6 ай бұрын
All of these are stereo capable. We were toying with doing stereo or mono mixes and wanted the option.
@RobertoSunga
@RobertoSunga Жыл бұрын
If you're using mono mixes, why not use 2 receivers for each transmitter, you could've saved 1u and weight.
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards Жыл бұрын
Yep. Wanted the ability to go stereo down the road
@candyv1082
@candyv1082 Жыл бұрын
What is Hans playing? Ze Flammenwerfer?
@justtheotherdave
@justtheotherdave Жыл бұрын
Why a separate case inside a Pelican case instead of a single flight case? And why were you considering splitting up what appears to be a travel worthy 12U ATA road / flight case into two 6U? Currently building an IEM rig into a shock mounted 8U case I got for a song ($40, aluminum shell, covered in tape residue, full of dead bugs and grass, came with it's own stank like grandma's attic).
@NeverWillWeRest
@NeverWillWeRest 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Cant wait for wireless audio interfaces so IEM setups are as simple as syncing instruments and headphones wirelessly to a DAW.
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t fathom anything going wrong with that
@alexima7962
@alexima7962 2 жыл бұрын
if you just used IEM G4 mono,not stereo,you can use one G4 transmitter, two body pack..so you ease the burden
@himeshsinha6821
@himeshsinha6821 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same argument when I saw it first on Instagram……….apparently it’s harder to scan for RF when syncing and there’s some leak in the dual mono system
@BrianSimmons
@BrianSimmons 2 жыл бұрын
@@himeshsinha6821 It's not harder to scan. In fact it is easier because you have half as many transmitters to account for. L&R sends are not sent on two different frequencies using this method. It simply sends the same L&R feed to two IEM receivers and the "split" is done in the receiver pack. Also, if done correctly there shouldn't be any "leak". Of course if someone screws with the transmitters and gets it off a hard pan, then it will leak. We ran mono IEM for several years using this method (and older G3 IEM packs) without any issues or leaks.
@himeshsinha6821
@himeshsinha6821 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianSimmons I said this same thing to Fluff but he said "Yeah I know. There is still a small amount of bleed between both sides but more importantly if we need to be able to scan individually if someone is having RF issues ya know."
@420barrymcockiner
@420barrymcockiner 11 ай бұрын
Do you build rigs for others ? Id like to have one build from you
@ZagatoZee
@ZagatoZee 2 жыл бұрын
Given the $300 a unit difference, is it not worth using the G4 Twin models rather than having a unit per person? Additionally, forgive the ignorance please but, is there a reason NOT to have some of the G4's facing the rear of the rack, thus saving an extra 1U in height?
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
The problems with those scenarios are: A. It's not ideal to share one unit with 2 musicians [even though Gear Gods have no issues with this setup and run it that way], because if it fails, 2 musicians would lose their mix. B. Since the rack is compact, there's no way that the G4s can face the rear because there wouldn't be any space for cables to run, especially BNCs for the combiner. The depth of the transmitters wouldn't allow it to happen.
@ZagatoZee
@ZagatoZee 2 жыл бұрын
@@TotalEvo7 Thank you for the nice and simple - logic fuelled explanation!
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZagatoZee No problem
@JohnMSD
@JohnMSD Жыл бұрын
Also I know you said one of your interfaces is backup, but is the PreSonus 16R capable of being used as a mixer/interface at the same time? I'm currently using my x32 rack in this way but I want to downsize to a smaller rack with all the same functionality
@JohnMSD
@JohnMSD Жыл бұрын
The big blue XLR cables coming from the main L/R of the PreSonus 16R, I'm assuming those are the L/R channels of your tracks being sent from inputs 15/16 of your interface and then passed to the patch bay to be sent to FOH with a snake?
@AnthonySkunkGreen
@AnthonySkunkGreen 2 жыл бұрын
Not knocking your system but I think this is a little too complex and not as cost efficient as it could be. My band uses a power conditioner/split snake /behringer xr16 and xvive u4 in ear packs. 4 seperate mixes all mono and with a total cost of about $1500
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this was never meant to be cost effective. But we are playing Download in front of 70,000 people. Im not using $200 IEMs man haha
@hughharsher
@hughharsher 2 жыл бұрын
@@RiffsAndBeards what a flex lol
@ayeapprove
@ayeapprove 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, but what about your drummer?
@Intenzity
@Intenzity 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes...10k to put this together, ballpark. Maybe even more than that. And renting would have been more expensive than that?
@MFKitten
@MFKitten 2 жыл бұрын
For the less fortunate there's the Behringer X18 with Xvive units plugged straight into the XLR outs :p
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 2 жыл бұрын
brutal
@zipthedrummer
@zipthedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to get the front of house portion tho think you would just have to add a splitter right? Was thinking the same thing by was trying to figure out how to get instruments/mics to FOH
@theiranxican7412
@theiranxican7412 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. MUCH more obtainable.
@dkerwood1
@dkerwood1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zipthedrummer A cheap splitter snake can handle that. One or two rack spaces. I think the XR18 is three spaces, so one is left for a power conditioner.
@zeco_vlog
@zeco_vlog Жыл бұрын
Wait, why not to use rear ART outputs for your mix and front for FOH and save 1U instead of the patch bay? And putting the mixer reversed for a cleaner look without any wire sticking out of the rack?
@alexcorona
@alexcorona Жыл бұрын
When I’m filming video for someone I am using at least 2 if not 3 cameras, more so for the angles…..but I’ve had Situations where one of them didn’t work, card died, got erased. Every single time it saved my but for having at least 2.
@Salamanderfs
@Salamanderfs 3 ай бұрын
I've been coming back to this video a lot recently as my band is also kind of in the same boat. We have a our full larger rig which includes our wireless mics and DI Patch Bay that we can split out to venues but we also wanted something more compact to bring to venues that actually provide us the vocal mics/instrument mics/DI boxes where we still need to split to IEMs and still be able to record the set via the Presonus rack mixer. I know you mentioned in previous videos that you don't need drum mics to split to your IEMs but I imagine it wouldn't be a bad thing to split off at least Kick/Snare and Hi-Hat maybe? Thanks again for the detailed walkthrough!
@KelticKabukiGirl
@KelticKabukiGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I run a very elaborate 3 pedalboard 4 amp system, I would rather lug that around and hear my amps than ever do in ears. I just couldn't do that with what I do. And how headbanging proof are in ears?
@GuillaumeLortie
@GuillaumeLortie 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Fluff do you know that you CAN’T use North American G4 over in Europe ? i don’t want to sound like a party pooper but the frequency range you can freely use is determined my region and for sure the 500Mhz Range is sold to cellular companies and TV station in Europe. please be careful, fine are salty if you get caught using illegal units over there.
@floriansimon2578
@floriansimon2578 2 жыл бұрын
In certain countries you just have to get a license for using anything but the E band. A band is free for professional use here in Germany, but not in other countries like UK.
@GuillaumeLortie
@GuillaumeLortie 2 жыл бұрын
@@floriansimon2578 I’m guessing he’s all in the 480-550 ish witch can’t be used as far as I hear in Europe. I just try to save him the trouble of renting a new rig and everything once he get there
@floriansimon2578
@floriansimon2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuillaumeLortie if you look closely, they are using the A band G4s, which can all be used. Check out the thomann frequency guide on the G4s product page.
@robertstitt4004
@robertstitt4004 2 жыл бұрын
So, the guitars are mono? No stereo? Also, no inputs for drums? Hmmmmmm.....I am confused
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
Guitars are mono, and no inputs for drums, since, according to them, they can ambiently hear the drums
@wyattjordan320
@wyattjordan320 2 жыл бұрын
Is the splitter necessary if you have enough out puts on your mixer, and route that to an I/0 panel? or does that introduce too much latency or something?
@SamueleForte
@SamueleForte 2 жыл бұрын
The splitter allows you to send the unprocessed and pre-gain signals to foh, so what foh does is completely independent from what you do in your iem.
@MattGurry
@MattGurry Жыл бұрын
@RiffsAndBeards, awesome vid.. Can I ask, has anything changed over the last year using this, would you still recommend the components used? Could you explain the use of the ProSonus Studio 68C, is this just to connect in the Laptop (tracks) and Click, or does it have other uses? just cant make out why its required, when the ProSonus 16R is doing all the work. Thanks !!
@Ryan_Messenger
@Ryan_Messenger Жыл бұрын
Hey, Fluff. Can you make a Mesa Badlander rack build video for funsies? Maybe even throw a rack modeler in the amp's effects loop and a cool overdrive pedal before the amp input? I'd watch it and then you'd have a super sweet hybrid rig I could be totally jealous about. 🤘
@TheRemizinho
@TheRemizinho Жыл бұрын
I don't get someting .. I see vox and guitars, but where do you route the drums into?
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards Жыл бұрын
We dont
@Darrickvd
@Darrickvd 10 ай бұрын
Ha... I remember you bringing this to Tilburg and when I had to mix you guys I thought...yes nice finally a clean set...nice job with this one.
@jmoosic
@jmoosic Жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on wireless in ear monitors being used with tablets that have the SQ4YOU app used with Allen and Heath Board.
@mostyles328
@mostyles328 11 ай бұрын
What about recording the drummer?
@gbrsr
@gbrsr 10 ай бұрын
Killer. Such a useful vid. Only thing I’m curious about is power… 🔌🤔 Did I miss that part?
@keolahutchinson7687
@keolahutchinson7687 2 жыл бұрын
Boring!!! Nah I'm just kidding. Out of reach right now, but man...its fun to dream. 😎
@valik-stu
@valik-stu 2 жыл бұрын
Using G4 in mono mode just for single musician. And that guy complaining about prices?))
@overdramaticmusic
@overdramaticmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I might have missed it, but how is everything being powered
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
The only things that are powered are the combiner and the mixer, since both have IECs, and can easily plug into 2 outlets.
@maxandrews4843
@maxandrews4843 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m just getting into in-ears….what about the antennas for the individual units?? How do they fit into the rear of the rig with such tight space? Thanks!
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
The main LR outs on the PreSonus I'm assuming those only have the stereo tracks, right?
@Megalomaniac2005
@Megalomaniac2005 2 жыл бұрын
Welll, Touring and flying with that is one thing, but how do you challenge all those different ekectric currents e.g. in Europe? And what about frequency ranges that you may not be free to use? Can be quite a bummer if you suddenly have all kinds of noises on your wireless in ear oe instrument lines, because the freqs you Uwe are occupied (e.g. by cell phones).
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I miss the big shockmount rack cases and big truck fulla gear… but I do feel the sound quality and repeat ability are far greater than they used to be.
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's still a big trailer full of gear. There's probably more room for merch though.
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesrocks cloth frisbee, they throw em and leave em so you can pick em up and sell em again, wait you bought 300 and sold 437 how’s that work??? 🤣
@RadicalRumin
@RadicalRumin 2 жыл бұрын
could probably replace the PreSonus Studio 68c with an older RME interface. Those are made to fit half racks
@TotalEvo7
@TotalEvo7 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe so, but this is just to demonstrate that the rig can be done with what you can buy in Sweetwater or any music store. I wonder if those interfaces are cross-DAW as well as cross-platform
@RadicalRumin
@RadicalRumin 2 жыл бұрын
@@TotalEvo7 DAWs, unless we're talking Luna, are usually interface agnostic. RME is known for its great stability and continual software Support (even for its FireWire interfaces) on all platforms
@jeremebrown6176
@jeremebrown6176 Жыл бұрын
Hey you have had both x32 rack and presonus 16r , which sounds better in your ears?
@rileyemerson
@rileyemerson 3 ай бұрын
Do you not have drums? If you do, where are the inputs for the drums?
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 3 ай бұрын
Just have a trash mic. Even playing giant festivals we could still lambently hear our drummer it was never an issue
@isaacramirez3729
@isaacramirez3729 2 жыл бұрын
So am I understanding right that you'd plug your cab sims and vocals into the y cable and then take one out from the patchbay and send it to the interface and the other out goes to FOH and then for your monitoring, you have the interface going into a mixer that sends to your wireless rigs. Is that basically what's going on?
@JaydepoolMusic
@JaydepoolMusic 2 жыл бұрын
this IEM keeps coming around
@sikspek
@sikspek Жыл бұрын
Hi fluff, (or anyone that knows an answer) what kind of antenna do you connect to the combiner and where would you put it? A directional paddle from the wing of the stage, or an omni directional or 1/2 wave antenna center stage?
@FanaticDrummer
@FanaticDrummer 2 жыл бұрын
My soldered his entire studio. He spent days on ridiculous snakes and patch snakes. It made my head hurt just looking at them. He ordered like 300 gold trs tips lol
@JayBeBerg
@JayBeBerg Жыл бұрын
So the in ears are mono in this setup?
@loganmcdanks
@loganmcdanks 2 жыл бұрын
Wait...you arent wiring drum mics into your in ear rig? I would hate my in ears without drums in the mix personally.
@chloe3298
@chloe3298 7 ай бұрын
how about the vox and drum
@agamemnon60
@agamemnon60 2 жыл бұрын
This video seems to be a lesson in how audio gear manufacturers are STILL incapable of designing things the way that musicians would need to use or transport them.
@mikemoore3635
@mikemoore3635 2 жыл бұрын
Damn man tight round back and sandwiched on top all this innuendo is killing me fluff!!!!
@manoloherrera
@manoloherrera 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since I saw the pictures in your Instagram. Nice to see another build. But how about the drummer, is there a send from the foh or a sub mix that will be sent to the rack?
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Ambiently he’s crazy loud so no need when the side fills get going.
@floriansimon2578
@floriansimon2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@RiffsAndBeards what about himself? He doesn't need any drums (kick drum) in his ears? Cool guy :D
@KevOppelt
@KevOppelt 2 жыл бұрын
Fluff ya gotta do Type O Negative tone video, Please! thank you.
@pauljosephresus354
@pauljosephresus354 Жыл бұрын
So Everything is in Mono?
@FoolishFlock
@FoolishFlock 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout the entire video my only thoughts: "Ohhhh pretty color patch cables me want"
@Just-artist
@Just-artist Жыл бұрын
Great setup! Do you remember what diameter the low-profile cables were? 4mm?
@sonidojamon
@sonidojamon 2 жыл бұрын
Killer compact setup!! A couple of questions: - What are the yellow tracks in the diagram for? Backing tracks, I'm guessing, but I thought I'd better ask. - How about using a Yamaha EAD-10 on drums for more satisfying in-ear mixes? Small, easy to pack and set up + independent snare + kick triggering if needed (FX, sampled/automated reverb blends etc). The EAD-10 is mounted on top of the kick drum (on the drummer's side), and has a built-in stereo mic setup to capture drums pretty decently!! - There's a minor typo in the flow chart diagram. I think the last "red" input at channel 7 does not really exist and then the "2-R-Right" signal from the soundcard goes into that input instead of the same channel's output. Feels good to be back on tour, right?
@drdelewded
@drdelewded 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to post... didn't you already do this haha Its pretty hilarious, I do almost exactly the same thing when designing racks as you do on your ipad. DL images of front and back, ,stack them in You Doodle, then draw in cables.. I usually colour code based on the type of signal Analog red. digital blue, data Green... etc
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