Noise Gate Shootout! (Feat. Ben Eller)

[@BenEller]

We are the bois…. WHO GATE THE NOISE

[@RiffsAndBeards]

Stop it

[@LotharOfTheHillPeople]

I just bought a Sentry on Reverb after 15 years with the NS-2 based off this video. Thanks for contributing to my GAS!

[@illegal_space_alien]

FYI, the Iron Curtain is the Behringer gate, just in a metal case and slight tweaks. TC is owned by Behringer. All of the TC Smorgasbord series are rehoused and tweaked Behringer pedals.

[@allboutthemojo]

Very informative video 👍. Especially to know how most of the gates were letting that last bit of string or spring noise through when using the Floyd Rose. Who wants to bet Ben switches to the sentry real soon?

[@majesticpbjcat7707]

@@LotharOfTheHillPeople fuckin top notch profile name and pic. *Chef's kiss 💋🤌

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

I remember introducing a friend of mine to noise gates. He had never heard of a gate before and he was playing lots of high gain stuff. Showed him how it works and what it does and literally the passion was reborn in him, it was wild. His girlfriend said she had never seen him this happy or inspired ever before. I let him keep my gate because I just loved seeing him so happy. He was playing for hours and hours nonstop. He still tells me how excited he is to play and this all happened like 4 years ago. It was a Sentry.

[@raytorvalds3699]

You are an awesome friend !

[@creepergonecreep]

I had a similar experience! A guy who was filling in on guitar in my band had yet to use a noise gate. I had already moved on to modeling and had all the FX I needed in my modeler but I had a crap ton of pedals left over from my 6505 rig. I gave him my old BOSS NS-2 and he was astounded by the difference in clarity.

[@JohnWiku]

This is still a better love story than twilight 🤣🤣

[@markntexas8265]

And you got a little smile and wink from god

[@albertplaysguitar]

Wish I still had my sentry. This is why all the line 6 amps that people love to hate had noise gates! Noise can be a distraction!

[@WilliamHaisch]

2:43 “you just turn it up until the noise goes away” This is the same way I deal with my parents telling me my music is too loud.

[@27retrodaze]

Another TCE Sentry sold today thanks to this and many other videos... Thank you content creators!

[@horrifyinggelatinousblob]

Both the NS2 and the Sentry are designed to be used with 4 cable method. If done correctly they are both excellent, probably the best options.

[@markmeloney2643]

I used to have that behringer one. It basically ADDS NOISE to your chain when its not active so it can then eliminate said noise when you activate it and give you the illusion it did something.

[@dq7860]

Yeah I tried it out in a store once it's terrible

[@Irahenke]

This is the most Behringer thing I have ever read.

[@briancherry8088]

Exactly my problem with Behringer. The send-return loop seems to help that a bit.

[@timgartside6525]

I have a behringer EQ. Works fantastic in send/return loop. When I hooked it up in the boss daisy chain with other pedals it made so much noise it was unbelievable. On it's own separate power supply it works brilliantly

[@Rawnfella]

Lmao

[@dime124]

The reaction to the Sentry made me order one straight after the video finished.

[@Mark-zi6nt]

I bought it without knowing anything about it, there were only 2 gates at my music shop, the NS-2 that I already had, and Sentry. It's night any day difference, wish I never got the NS-2, but it was still a necessary experience. I'm not upgrading from Sentry. It kicks in when needed, it keeps sustain when it's needed. I'm proud you got it dude, congratulations! :)

[@WilliamHaisch]

With the great gate, customizable tone print, and reasonable price, that Sentry sounds like the best for my needs! Thank you!

[@johnnydark4802]

Jeee. My boy won. Really happy with the sentry and absolutely recommend it.

[@LotharOfTheHillPeople]

This video is so great. No one on KZbin has something this comprehensive, especially for metal.

[@alexcorona]

uh,JHS? he has an even more in depth one....by far

[@LotharOfTheHillPeople]

@@alexcorona FOR METAL?

[@regor5150]

Y'all need to take note from the king of staccato riffing: Dino Cazares from Fear Factory. I read an interview where he said he used two noise gates: one between the guitar and amp input and then one in the FX loop. I applied this to my TriAxis. I have an MXR Smart Gate pedal between the guitar and the TriAxis, set to about 2 o' clock. Then I have a Rocktron Guitar Silencer after my TriAxis and before my FX/Poweramp sections. This gives me the most tweakability to obtain stop on a dime gating, with zero after-mute chirping (as was highly evident in this video) and still allows for long held cord sustaining. And trust me, the TriAxis has just as much gain as the JP-2C can get. One pedal will not do the trick if you're running super saturated gain.

[@RiffsAndBeards]

wHeRe iS tHe *Noise Gate That Sweetwater Doesnt Carry Nor Would Have On Hand*

[@ironblast5]

Some of the coolest gear isn't carried by them sadly

[@Slayer821]

Love that Pantera - Domination riff. 7:47

[@axe2give]

Arghhh. ! 🎉

[@superflydigital]

Thanks guys. I just ordered the Sentry

[@SDisonYT]

You didn’t include the Zuul? That’s my favorite gate out there.

[@spikesguitarcamp]

Love the Sentry. Great vid Buoys!

[@bernardfoshage9901]

The BOSS NS-2 in 4 cable "x pattern" mode in conjunction with your amp's input & FX loop works much, much better. Night & day.

[@Aphercotropes]

Sentry also does the x pattern. Just sayin.

[@nvik6000]

@@Aphercotropes i think the behringer too

[@conlondf]

I used the NS2 in the X pattern for years... Then changed to the Sentry (in X pattern). They're both great in that configuration; NS2 is simple, and works... The Sentry is more customisable... Just depends what you want

[@theshredder456]

Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one loving the TC sentry!

[@gwcfeb03]

You didn’t put them ALL on at once! Thanks Fluff, great video.

[@marpsr]

Was just about to pull the trigger on the new NS-1X, but now I want the Sentry. Thanks!

[@TheUncleshoes]

"This is the one Moses used back in the day". Excellent!

[@DoubleDguitar]

I have had the Sentry for years, it’s great. I find that running it with the send to my amp input and the return of the pedal getting the send from the loop gets amazingly tweak-able results into any amp I run into.

[@mitchellbotting]

Spheres of Madness by Decapitated! Good choice, Ben!

[@BenEller]

EYYYYYY

[@vernonleemonii3334]

I thought the exact same thing!! 🤘😎🤘

[@shaynejensen1098]

How often do you stomp on a noise gate during a gig? Seems like you would set it up before you start and kinda leave it there, maybe just a couple adjustments between songs?

[@markhammer643]

I find most folks don't know how to use noise gates, and as a result are generally disappointed with their function and impact on sound. Most analog gates make their "decision" about turning on and off based on level. Some may employ a more elaborated sensing arrangement, like the TC described here. HOWEVER, the thing to keep in mind is that a) *where* the noise is being sensed, and b) what sort of content the "noise" consists of, will matter, as will level and S/N ratio. When your guitar hits the first pedal the most noise that will accompany it will likely be hum/EMI. At the end of your pedal chain, particularly since so many of us will cascade high-gain pedals, "noise" will consist of accumulated (and amplified) hiss, in addition to whatever hum got exaggerated over the various pedals. So what a gate needs to eliminate is different at the start than at the end of your signal path. My ideal system is a gate that would cut out content below 100hz when you stop playing, so that there is no hum to amplify, and a second gate that attenuates hiss at the *end* of the signal chain. As well, since the gate interprets low-level things as unwanted "noise", and higher-level things as "signal", you want the greatest contrast in *level* between wanted signal and unwanted noise. That's why many gates will include a send/receive loop that the rest of pedal chain gets inserted into. What that does is give the sensing circuit the best dynamics and contrast to work with, in order to more accurately detect periods of non-playing, but *APPLY* the noise reduction *after* all the other pedals. Keep in mind that anything which compresses your signal dynamics, be it a compressor or seriously overdriven gain pedals, will make it harder for the gate to tell the difference between what you want and what you don't want. This is why I say many players get frustrated with gates, because they don't know how to use them. If you stick a gate at the end of your chain, and it is sensing your compressed noisy final signal, you'll end up having to set the turn-on threshold so high that it will cut out the natural decay of notes. So if you're going to be seeking the tones found in this video, you'll definitely want something with a send/receive loop, where you can plug the guitar straight into it, and use the gate to clean up the mess near or at the end. I say *near* the end, because there may be some things, like the tail end of a reverb, where you don't want it to cut out, but you don't want the cumulative noise to be part of that tail. In that case, you'd have the gate do its thing *after* the high-gain pedals, but *before* the reverb pedal. Capishe?

[@ride5000]

haha, stumbling across mark hammer on youtube giving some straight dope on guitar electronics! it's been a few years since ampage, old buddy... ;) -~KG~

[@markhammer643]

@@ride5000 Good to hear from ya. Those who remember ampage, remember! These days, of all things, I'm working at a national science & tech museum on a repro of the world's first voltage-controlled synthesizer, from the late '40s. A real hoot, and a precursor of things that wouldn't emerge in music gear for another 25-30 years.

[@mattster693]

The ns2 has to be hooked up with 4 cables to get the tightness, it’s the only way I run it and haven’t had any issues. It’s actually the only pedal I use right now lol. But I want to a/b it with a sentry at some point

[@stewartking7376]

Totally. That’s how I run mine and it eliminates all noise that way. No amp hum or hiss, no noise from the pedals in the loop and no squealing from my TS either.

[@Guitarnivore]

Works perfectly like that on the mute setting and you don't get any of tone suck or volume drop that everyone complains about.

[@AllenHarrison]

I think the move with the NS-2 is to use it in the "X" configuration that gets it into the amps fx loop, or something?

[@dailycrittersinmyyard4849]

Listening closely with headphones and the Decimator 2 was the only one to really eradicate that pingy spring sound effectively.

[@zombiemosher1139]

Bang on

[@camblokland]

I still hear it. I hear it less on the Sentry. Decimator 2 is 2nd place after the Sentry to my ears.

[@camblokland]

There’s a quaver of it on the D2. I don’t think you could cut it tighter than the Sentry… unless Neural Link start bringing out guitar pedals.

[@camblokland]

Having said that… if they’d nudged either of the D1 or D2 up just a hair, they might have done it. But based off this vid, #1 Sentry, #2 D1 and D2 tied

[@astoryk]

Sentry is killing the pingy spring way better, IMHO

[@TheWelhaven]

Ha, I bought a used Boss NS-2 yesterday. Looked at almost all of these pedals. Boss is always a safe buy.

[@21sabiandrummer67]

Hell yeah Ben playing Spheres of Madness...that riff in the middle of the song is so hard

[@KristianHeartmusic]

Just got the G8 and love it

[@saurabhagarwal2000]

Thanks a lot for a great and very useful review, can you also please share your experience with Donner noise killer, if you have used it ?

[@JRP3music]

Dig the TC Electronic Iron Curtain. I also have Decimator X micro Gstring, and Boss NS-2.

[@magneticmetal5778]

Spheres of Madness - perfect riff for this test !

[@siwy666]

Love the spheres of madness riff! :)

[@22AH26]

Just got the sentry and if you are using any sort of gain especially high gain this definitely is the best noise gate! Highly recommend

[@Mudder1310]

You guys are great. Would enjoy seeing you two do an attenuator/load box shootout.

[@rafaelduarte5171]

"it's a blue one, specifically a blue one"... man, classic Ben Eller!

[@jedmarsillo]

Love the Decapitated riff🤘🤘🤘I've used a Sentry for years now. For the price and features and how well it just works you can't beat it.

[@TheStrykerProject]

This vid also illustrates that the cost of pedals is not necessarily indicative of its "goodness". For example, the Sentry at $109 is as good as, if not better than, the top price at $143 (Decimator 2); and yet the MXR at $130 isn't near as good at the Sentry & Decimator 2. It drives me nuts! But, luckily, we have guys like Fluff and Uncle Ben to help us weed through these prices. Thank you, gentlemen!

[@mrksdlx]

I have 3 graphic EQ's and the one that works best for my tone is the 15 year old $40 Behringer cheapie 😆

[@TheStrykerProject]

@@mrksdlx 😀It just seems so random, right?!

[@lueysixty-six7300]

Marketers have long known that customers see price as a surrogate indicator of quality.

[@TheStrykerProject]

@@lueysixty-six7300 Quite true. I believe the saying is, "there's a sucker born every minute".

[@christopherblyth2454]

Used all of them, and then some. Best gate I have used has been the Lone Wolf Audio Endless Blockade. I also have the dual gate pedal for a stereo setup called the “Taunhausser.”

[@dq7860]

I've heard the Endless Blockade works wonders Joe builds awesome pedals

[@chrishannon9063]

Been using a Decimator ProRackG for a while now for my wet/dry rig and absolutely love it to be able to hit my two amps differently with just the single unit, but always have been curious about stomp options. Thanks for the video!

[@shekador]

I loved my ProRackG but there are better options available nowadays, at least if you play chugga chugga

[@chrishannon9063]

@@shekador It works great and was the “simplest” option for my main rig which is supper complicated with routing. Not for chugga. My bass rig has a deci-mate and it works great. Currently putting together a chugga rig I’m going to try it on, and I might look into these other options.

[@user-jl2wd1it8h]

I gave my friend Mubalu in Uganda a cheap guitar and amp. I returned one day and gave him a Boss noise gate. His village were so moved by the sound they were brought to tears and sang songs about it. They named their newest offspring Gate Boy

[@Canadianwheelchairguitar]

I had the BOSS NS-2 when I played live through a Randall Solid State 100W head into a 4 X 12 cabinet live. It didn't make it totally silent when I wasn't playing but it got the job done well enough that I never dealt with annoying feedback and it never shortened the sustain of a note or chord.

[@rafx2014]

i sold my ISP decimator and got a Sentry after watching Fluff's review back in 2016 or 17... Never looked back. thanks Dad!

[@Rovertsmasher]

I have the TC Sentry in a 4-cable setup and it's absolutely immaculate. It's tied for most critical pedal in my rig with my Horizon Precision Drive.

[@JC-nu5io]

How do you run your sentry on 4 cable? Beginning of chain? Could I run it after my drive section into the front and then loop my time based effects into FX loop?

[@Rovertsmasher]

@@JC-nu5io You could certainly do that. The whole idea behind the 4-cable method is being able to gate only certain parts of your loop using whichever stage of the sound as the 'blueprint'. I use mine right after my tuner, so effectively it gets my dry signal straight from the instrument to get the clearest picture of when I am actually playing. I only gate my distortion, so from there I loop mt OD and pre-amp and send my effects loop out to the return of the Smart Gate so that it doesn't touch my other effects. Basically for me I only want to get rid of the extra noise from the gain stages, but you can gate any pedals you want.

[@briancherry8088]

The best gate I have is a $25 one-knob wonder from China. You can set the threshold just right so you remove the hiss under your playing. Very nice. The Behringer adds noise when engaged on a quiet circuit, but works well with high gain pedals in its send-return loop.

[@Cpt_Adama]

Quick note the MXR smargate is the only true direct copy of Rockman item they decided to bring to market. It is the the Rockman smartgate in pedal form.

[@alexanderlumberjack]

I love mine

[@kaptainskarlett9927]

Fluff and Uncle Ben?? Yeah!!

[@joeymiller2633]

love my the key and the gate pedal by litchlaern audio, totally worth it

[@youWoNtLikeMe04]

Love the Pantera domination riff!!! Over and over

[@lennylewismusic]

No love for the Isp Hum extractor + Decimator G, best noise gate ever.

[@smelltheglove2038]

I have the Big Muff Deluxe. When I first got it the noise gate was set to eleven and I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working. I never dealt with a noise gate before and didn’t know what it was all about. It’s now my favorite feature on the pedal.

[@mathprodigy]

Hahaha one of the greatest things in the world of a guitarist is wondering why the hell something isn't working, only to find out its bc this one knob HERE needed to be turned...

[@randyberglund6474]

The Mxr Smartgate is really great! You can definitely use it for metal. I've got one and the knob is at lowest setting and it's perfect

[@sid35gb]

Anthrax use the smart gate. With that spring noise most people damp the springs with a piece of sponge.

[@lueysixty-six7300]

@Future Deadguy well, its more expensive, in it?

[@ameer_saban]

Respect for the Spheres of Madness

[@Ashaliel]

I bought a behringer 'cause it was cheap and I wanted to try it out. I kept trying to mess with it and I was not impressed. But this vid sold me on the Sentry. Thanks so much!

[@TheNielCodex]

The Sentry is an amazing pedal. Especially when you start messing around with the toneprint software.

[@the1khronohs40]

The Sentry has been a no-brainer for any metalhead since the day it was born. It is hella powerful. 3-band gating, and the TonePrint tweakability. It’s amazing. Yes Uncle B, there are 3 knobs, but they are fully usable and powerful in their own way. But wait, there is more. It also has the ability to filter out what is guitar noise and what is fx-noise. If you go guitar directly into it, then through all your fx, then loop back through it before hitting the PA, it will know not to cut the fx-noise. I.e. delay trails, reverbs and things of that nature! It is truely amazing!

[@jamesprosser7236]

I wonder if you can use it in the fx loop of an amp? I.e. Guitar>sentry>amp>fx send>effects(delays)>sentry> fxreturn?

[@krisania96]

@@jamesprosser7236 you can, it's designed to work perfectly that way.

[@kylezakk]

If only they weren't so hard to find in Canadia

[@mattw.6726]

I'd love to see you do a shootout with gates/suppressors using the 4-cable method. I switch between clean, crunch, and massive gain frequently on my Marshall JVM410H, so I needed a set-it-and-forget-it gate that wouldn't choke out when switching channels. The MXR Smart Gate didn't cut it, so I picked up the TC Sentry and hooked it up with the 4-cable method. Unfortunately, it couldn't handle the level in the JVM410H's loop and the volume dropped precipitously with it on, even when it wasn't gating. I ended up grabbing an ISP Decimator II G-String (the Decimator version with jacks to hook up using the 4-cable method), and that solved the problem.

[@myuncle2]

Another trick is to use the ISP in the fx loop of the JVM, and the TC Sentry (or even the beringer) in front of the amp.

[@mikedwiles]

This was really good guys. Thanks so much! I've had an NS-2 for years. Did not understand the differences in the various units until your presentation today. Very informative. After listening to this, I'm with you guys on the TC Sentry.

[@ckaras100]

I currently use a combo of the MXR smart gate and the ISP decimate. I basically use the smart gate going directly into my pedals and front end of my amp and the decimate out of the fx send on my amp. I found this to work well being able to keep sustain and minimize noise.

[@myuncle2]

great choice

[@bfunley]

Thank you Ryan and Ben, my favorite gate is the ISP Decimator G String II. Dead quiet and dead simple

[@Markleford]

Since I can't see the headstock, am I right in assuming you have nothing under your strings above the nut to dampen the sympathetic ringing? Or does it have springs in a trem system that are ringing out? Because that high sound after the chugs is really what is sucking most.

[@BenEller]

There’s gaffe tape all over that guitar, behind the nut and on the springs! We chose the noisiest guitar on purpose.

[@Markleford]

@@BenEller Hah! Well, mission accomplished on your choice! Maybe its also dealing with what my ancient HM Strat is currently suffering: gradual microphonic pickup creep?

[@AncientSinsOfficial]

I just switched from the Behringer NS300 to the Electro Harmonix Silencer and it’s a HUGE difference in sound and tone sustainment.

[@shawnshipstad9281]

I have and love the Smart Gate.

[@markwhite1039]

IMO the sentry is the best especially if you run your fuzz and overdrive pedals through the sentry’s loop using the 4 cord method. Single coils, high gain everything is controlled and or eliminated with a natural decay when set properly.

[@mattnelson8325]

Thank you for your help. I am going to buy one right now. Great video Fluff and chug guy.

[@asnark7115]

Last three gates do a great job of eliminating pickup sounds and isolating the spring harmonic!

[@nikkoberserker]

Hello !! my noise gate is a Mooer noise killer with 1 knob for threshold and a swtich hard-soft and that's it ! it's working very well and not expensive 39€ .thanks for the video !

[@FlankinspanK]

needa shootout the isp g string and sentry. much revealage!

[@way2go78]

I’ve tried most of them and kept the ISP Decimator (first one you tested) did have the sentry but found it to suck tone

[@kissaguitar]

Thanks guys, again. You got the ability to convince

[@tedrackley6233]

I'd like to hear a similar shootout with pedals that have the guitar trigger them, but the gate goes in the effects loop, which you didn't do with the Boss NS-2/ TC Sentry here, including the MXR Noise Clamp, the Fortin Zuul, EHX The Silencer, Decimator II G-String, REVV G8, etc.

[@rockmovieswithtyler1989]

G8 and Cockblocker are ones that would be great to test against the Sentry

[@rmlee777]

Please tell me where to find the TC Electronic Sentry for only $109?? Everywhere I look online it’s like $172

[@Ottophil]

Already have a sentry. I’m glad to know my own results match up

[@mikeforner7797]

I do luv da 4 cable method with the NS2

[@diegoambrosio9121]

16:56 "I'm glad you've seen the light" That is metal.

[@guitarandbass1995]

I’ve used the NS-2, decimator and the Sentry and the Sentry by far was the better of the three. Having the extra controls to tighten the gate plus being able to isolate all my drive pedals in the send and return makes life so much easier especially playing live.

[@colebengston3963]

Saved me some money since I own the sentry and was about to buy a decimator!

[@Guithulhu]

Fortin Zuul? Also, you can get the silent Floyd springs. They do eliminate a lot of that unwanted noise. You just can no longer do trem flutter (which kind of sucks).

[@KaldDodeGitarist]

I use the behringer, very delicately, in my 6505+ fx loop just to tame amp noise. Gonna get a sentry for the front.

[@JohanMichels]

I’m using a Stone Deaf effects Noise Reaper, love the design and the one knob controll

[@firecrackersmile810]

I have been looking around for gates and playing around with a gate on the pedalboard for the gain pedals AND a gate in the efx loop for noisy amps - any comments on this kind of set up?

[@spaceavenger54]

Last gate I ever used was a rocktron hush rack mount. Thing was awesome, guess they don't exist anymore, this was 2007 I had that thing.

[@groovenvibeyt]

wow, i need that Sentry... by far the best one

[@Blakzale]

Why not include the Donner gate you advertised as fastest gate. You were pretty impressed at the time.

[@justinturner653]

He didn't include endless blockade either, which he used for a while & probably still does. The point was what does sweetwater sell??

[@jorisdemeij]

Probably because sweetwater doens't sell it, so makes sense that in a sponsored video for sweetwater they're going to shootout pedals they actually sell :)

[@Patrick-fv6yh]

They’re at sweetwater. But I had the sophgate and returned it immediately. 4 cable method when the pedal was off it made all my gain on my kraken go to 0 and I personally found it to fast and made it feel robotic while playing (which I personally don’t like)

[@therifflair724]

Did I miss it? What were your second, third and fourth choices?

[@seangarland]

I’ve been watching Noise Gate/Noise Suppressor videos for the last few days, and was ready to pull the trigger on the BOSS NS-2 this morning (admittedly I’m a big BOSS fan). But I’m going to go look at some TC Electronic Sentry videos before I make the call. That was an impressive display. And thanks to two of my favorite guitar KZbinrs for the great video!

[@niclastname]

I'd be curious to see a comparison with these newer gates I see with the "key" input where your guitar goes in dry, but the gate goes after the preamp or whatever (Fortin Zuul, cockblocker, etc). Also shouldn't the springs be muted and/or use things like jimmy clips on the extra bits on string, because I feel like that's definitely the better option for the ring than a noise gate for that part of the issue/

[@thekramer1097]

Yup. Spring and string noises should be muted before even considering a noise gate

[@flapjack413]

I think I'm going to try out the TC Sentry after watching this. I'd been using a Rocktron Guitar Silencer since about 2010, and been wanting to try something new. That seems to fit the bill perfectly, and it will take up a smaller footprint on my board, thanks!

[@Ottophil]

I went from hush to sentry. Much better

[@EmbraceTheWorld1990]

I went from the Rocktron Guitar Silencer to an ISP Decimater 2 and the difference was night and day. The Rocktron always felt like it sucked some tone and the gate would do that ripple thing. None of that with the ISP, I recommend it highly!

[@The.Adam.D]

The content we all need!

[@snapascrew]

Excellent video. Thanks! I understand for demoing purposes why you chose to use these in the loop, but it’s important for people to know that the string chirping we’re hearing needs to be tackled by a gate in front of the amp not the loop. After that’s done you can use almost any gate in the loop. Loop gates are easy sauce. Would have made more sense to just have a simple ns2 running in the loop and to demo all of these in FRONT. But obviously a sock on the headstock is the best first step regardless lol

[@majesticpbjcat7707]

I wonder if they'll ever read this and if so, I'm curious what their answer to it would be.

[@myuncle2]

You are right, the best one for the loop is not necessarily the best in front.

[@INVERTEDBUKAKI]

what do I do if I have a delay and reverb already in my loop

[@cmcp975]

@@INVERTEDBUKAKI place the gate 1st in your loop. Tames amp noise and lets delays/reverb tails ring out uninterrupted.

[@INVERTEDBUKAKI]

@@cmcp975 ty👌

[@Loki_Morningstar666]

I would like to see a demo of the EHX Silencer. It seems really similar to the TC Electronic

[@INeverWanted2010]

I think that last lightning round might have sold me on the Sentry as well. I've used the NS-2 for about as long as I've been playing guitar but I never realized there were "faster" gates out there!

[@lovecraftmusic8717]

Sentry may be faster but I noticed at times it fails tor recognize the noise and leave the noise pass thru, like the decay was setted higher for just a moment. Might be the digital nature of it.

[@INeverWanted2010]

@@lovecraftmusic8717 Is that the case when using four cable method too?

[@Naergoth]

I've tried a lot of different gates and the Sentry is my go to.

[@Hendrix.]

T.C Electronics "Sentry" definitely won.Money is no object when it comes to good sound.

[@ederiel]

The Sentry is the best. I use it, and i use his loop, that is a super option ! Just after the tuner. Then a tube screamer, and the preamp of my amp tube, back to the Sentry, and then delay/reverb and go to the power amp. Optimal chain ! 😉 🤘

[@alexanderlumberjack]

I may be dumb but can you reword this a little more clearly? I just got one today and want to try all the options

[@ederiel]

@@alexanderlumberjack Yes, the point is to use the loop of the noise gate. He must receive the purest signal from your guitar, that affect the threshold. Place it at the beginning of the signal path. Then the signal goes to the pedals you have of the front of the amp, and the preamp (use "send" on the Sentry). And then use the loop of your amp (the send) to connect the sentry in the return. Then the output of the sentry to modulation effects, and back to the return of the amp. I hope it's more understandable ^^ You can can find helpful schematics on the internet Does it work ?

[@danielsantini4580]

✅ Boss NS2🤓 with cables in X pattern and the Behringer ✅ cool 😎 video 👍

[@eightymusic]

The faces of two grown up men in search of noise. Hilarious! :D