The Rocket League Tournament that was lost because of Lag

[@FLuuMP]

If you want to experience the benefits of lower & stable ping, with reductions as much as 50 ping like I had, try GearUP Booster FOR FREE: www.gearupbooster.com/camp/ua1/?channel=nakol75 For console users: www.amazon.com/dp/B0C3H3MVYJ?maas=maas_adg_D334D340184CBC0DA4E571AE509D617D_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas

[@RichardFS19]

hmmmm.... something smells....🤔

[@benjamink2398]

As an Electrical Engineer with extensive background in client/server networking... *this software is absolutely a scam.* The chance your local machine is bottlenecking your connection is virtually zero. Your router, your ISP, and local traffic at the time are what determine your ping and latency. NOT your local machine. The only thing you can ever do to improve your internet performance on your own PC is to get a wired rather than wireless connection, and to close out other programs using bandwidth. That's it. Perhaps more worrying, the program must be actually just manipulating how your game/PC/etc is measuring and displaying your ping/latency, which is even *more* shady. Really disappointed to see you promoting a scam, my guy.

[@stalling-qd5rt]

this shits already proven to be a scam

[@goosedoesvideogames]

cmon man this has been proven to not work

[@Minecraftsnowwhiteofficial]

maleware

[@santanders865]

“It’s been… 84 years…” Welcome back

[@Its_Stunt]

Fluump coming out of nowhere twice wasnt on my 2024 bingo card

[@SunlessKhan]

1v1 me

[@FLuuMP]

I think you'd win

[@thund3r94]

Fluump uploading? That’s crazy

[@bmorr]

It’s cool to see a video about every single tournament I’ve entered since I’ve had to play on Comcast/Xfinity internet!

[@arthurdent5357]

Packet loss isn't an issue of Rocket League servers but of the ISP. At my old location I had 29 Ping and massive Packet loss at random times, usually peak Internet hours. In my new location I have 29 Ping and zero packet loss.

[@RocketYota]

Great to see FluuMP upload again! One of the original legends 🤝

[@wesgreenwood16]

Yota I’m sub to you

[@RocketYota]

@@wesgreenwood16 appreciate that 🤝

[@Truyoung]

Welcome back dude! :D

[@Technoninja]

For console players the best possible way to get a playable experience is to play wired, game mode enabled on the TV (or a low response time monitor) and Vsync disabled in RL settings. In most cases with a stable wired connection ping is not the issue, desync is more prevalent and harder to diagnose than any other network issue and it doesn't really show up in network graphs. In order to get an optimal gaming experience desync needs to be mitigated otherwise it can make 29 ping behave like 160 ping, unfortunately desync is tied to infrastructure which makes it very difficult to deal with.

[@Octopoess]

Skill issue, there is no desync in rl

[@Technoninja]

@@Octopoess lol what... Desync in RL is probably the worst of any game when it happens due to it being a physics based fast pace game.

[@Octopoess]

@@Technoninja git gud

[@Khaizen10]

@@Octopoessyou’re probably plat 🤣

[@Octopoess]

@@Khaizen10 i hit triple resets and im diamond

[@rl.misticc]

BAE WAKE UP FLUUMP UPLOADED

[@yeldarbnivot]

11:49 Replays are what your local machine stores, so you should be able to cross reference replays to see if others (for example JSTN) saw the ghost hit as well. Also, how are you supposed to fix this? It’s basically impossible without a LAN, it’s a miracle online multiplayer games work as smooth as they do

[@Beeks81]

Your local machine "fixes" the replay a bit based on data that did come in eventually, so you won't see a ghost hit since the data says that didn't happen. Ghost hits only exist where data is missing, and in replays, the data isn't missing. It's just put back into order after the fact, which was not the order it happened in realtime. That's why all the angles you see in this video seem to be from streams. There may be small variations visible if you could get all the replays side by side, but it's unlikely to look like it did for Ayyjay. (Otherwise Fluump would've just gotten a replay and shown that in detail, i'm sure.) That said, the style of "fill in the gaps" RL uses in realtime is called "Dead Reckoning", and Rocket League is really freaking bad at it. It's a simulation, which should be running on its own, and being changed by new data coming in from the servers when a car direction changes due to player input (the ball is part of the simulation, but the car isn't because we control those). And yet, the game can't go more than a fraction of a second without assuming ghost hits and unentered player movement. I feel like making the client do something random would yield a more consistent result. Packets are FAST. If Sypical hit the ball for Ayyjay and missed on the server, the prediction model wasn't even close after missing data for a only few milliseconds, and is garbage. But i guess we get what we pay for (though it did it back in the original S3 when i started, but whatever).

[@neofox2526]

thats not how replays work

[@yeldarbnivot]

@@neofox2526 Yes it is, replays are client side. If you are lagging, but not everyone else, your replay will show that. If you're going to disagree then at least provide proof, not this "no that's not right", that doesn't prove anything

[@neofox2526]

@@yeldarbnivot The replay generates slightly different results each time you watch it as it is generated on the fly and not a recording. Only the inputs are recorded and it is played out as a normal game where physics can differ. If you look up "how rl replays work" everyone says this.

[@yeldarbnivot]

@@Beeks81 Yes, absolutely. Maybe I didn't say it well enough, I meant client side predictions. The server corrects the (incorrect) client side states of objects, and that's why there is often a jitter. Packets are fast, but sometimes they get lost (RL uses UDP right) and so that's probably why the ghost hit happened, unless the packet arrived after some newer ones came through

[@AthleticsEditz]

The GOAT is back after nearly 2 YEARS, my year has been made!

[@ChurbyRL]

1:55 mostly 10 to 15

[@judahmcd4442]

if you watch the replay on the rlcs channel you can see that the ghost touch happened. It's much more drastic on Ayyjayy's screen but it was there for everyone

[@WhosNiall]

Ayy welcome back Fluump

[@Oliver-bq3xk]

Love the content man so happy your back!

[@deltapi6880]

Welcome back king!

[@AQUA_KY3rl]

Welcome back Fluump! We missed you buddy!

[@STACKINRACKS]

can you make "best 10 cars in RL" video

[@exselice]

I have experience this every rl player has had to have experienced this if you haven’t you just didn’t notice… it will even appear in replays after a goal if it happens yet you just have to sit there watching it happen unfortunately.

[@ashbnz3269]

When I went to press launch on gear up for rocket league it took me to steam and it didn’t work

[@ICYFYR5]

Internet providers and server, “ haha Get Got; Gotteeeem!!!”

[@webrevolution.]

I am convinced there is absolutely no way to fix this issue. It will theoretically (and consequently on a practical level too) always be possible in ANY online live service. Not only videogames. Literally anything. Even something as watching youtube might be enough to experience some packet loss sometimes. It's probably harder to notice because there is a thing called buffer, which pre-loads the stuff way before you actually get to see it, so the service has the time to adjust those packet losses with either error correction or simply resending them. But when you use a service that can't be pre-loaded and must receive packets live (like a live stream or a high pace videogame) it's simply not possible to deal with that in any better way than the one RL does. People hate on RL for having this issues, but it's just stupid. It's not their fault. There is no way to make this kind of stuff impossible to happen. You can decrease the frequency sure, but it will always be possible.

[@amped-_-509]

I thought bro was dead

[@Thirty7econds]

You may wanna study up differences btw system and network latency!! Packets are delivered in binary, ones and zeros! The CPU, decodes, and renders! Therefore system and network are interconnected.

[@cooperer23]

Fluump is a legend, I can't believe he's back

[@pyrrhic6]

boost on circle is peak i'm not letting a c2 tell me otherwise

[@pjr437]

Wait what is supposed to be “meta” boost bind?

[@pyrrhic6]

@pjr437 pretty sure one of the bumpers? r1 on playstation I think

[@whiterockgaming4102]

R1 or cirkle, but circle is mortly if u play claw

[@whitey.mp4676]

gc here and I just ‘ fat finger’ my boost and jump. Definitely don’t do this if you are learning fast aerials, definitely use R1

[@Syv_]

@@whitey.mp4676been playing since 2015 this is how I’ve always done it

[@ballistinarwhal7530]

You did sizz real dirty with that clip 😂

[@hoon-kay4840]

wait this guy found his youtube password

[@xXSoulxxFireXx]

@9:00 you don't need a console for this. The difference is the monitor vs a TV screen. TVs has way more input delay in general

[@whiterockgaming4102]

He is back from his epic motorsycle channel

[@ALASKANTHUNDERDRAGON]

the man, the myth, the Fluump

[@swxrn]

the GOAT has returned!

[@ItsJustaLittleLuck]

I used to call it: “Rocket Lag” especially years ago when they somehow had the worst servers none to man 😂

[@Soupoat]

He is back!

[@kriblenib3675]

babe wake up fluump posted

[@Zelmazam1]

Another fluump video. I love this guy's freestyle

[@ZenPyramid]

It's always a good day when Fluump uploads...! xD

[@JadsRL]

He's BACK

[@obsessionshift]

holy hell fluump finally back

[@Bucas100]

I can tell he started to make this a while ago be cause he said this was recent but welcome back legend

[@Romper3]

Let's go after 2 months he's back :D

[@arake814]

we miss the goat

[@RealBeanss]

Wait.. it says 2 hours ago? not 2 years ago????

[@bobbythomusic6376]

Love me a surprise FLuuMP upload 🙌

[@LoafyGoofy]

Welcome back FLuuMP!

[@SparksBrothers]

Somehow I’m always lagging while playing with people on the same wifi as me

[@NesrahX]

I was watching KZbin one night and came across a motorcycle KZbinr that sounded very familiar….

[@LangreegidGaming]

Duddeeee... Just seeing your name pop in my notifications made my weekend. We all know RL is a lil dogwater right now, however, this made up for all the mistakes epic is absolutely going to make in the next few months.

[@patrickbenja34]

Wish they had gear up for Xbox cuz I'm not finding it in the store

[@marlion7031]

saw some ghost hits on the main broadcast at the last events

[@MrMobiIeGaming]

fluump documentary type video? In 2024? who told god to do this

[@tylercunningham6043]

Please feel free to answer this. Has anyone been stuttering? Not lag, but frames drop really quick during random moments or during crazy moments that seem to happen every game. Is it my computer or is it the game or is it some settings or is it possibly lag but without the indication of lag/packet loss?

[@bricekrick98]

It feels illegal to be here this early. Oh how I’ve missed your videos ❤️

[@AngelosMerkouroglou]

Justice for ayyjayy

[@ilyzvkkialt]

Justice for the GOAT AYYJAYY

[@Evaxyy]

me whose just spent the last 3 hours tryna fiux my ping and fluump jus tappears outta nowhere with this app

[@reallycasty]

Mom. Mom. Mom. Fluump posted a new video

[@cmlisk6]

Nice vid but did you forget to post this 2 years ago when it happened? 😂

[@TheStunieeShow]

Okay but what is boost supposed to be then if not circle?

[@FlashyRL.]

😮 he’s back

[@Cliffordchainey]

Hey fluump is there gonna be more rocket league movies

[@julescmoi]

No wayyyy i love you so much man

[@RocketMonke69420]

This is not something psyonix can fix. Not like they put the internet cables in the ground themself. Also it is entirely possible that this wasn't caused by "lag" but simply the normal time it took for the data to arrive at Ayyjayys screen. Of all the things to blame psyonix/epic for this isn't one of them.

[@thisismiek]

FLUUMP IS BACKKKKK

[@soniK_]

Him is back

[@flyteuk]

so what youre saying is sypical sold

[@ababrr6]

holy shit fluump is alive

[@hamzakill8]

He is alive holyy

[@ababrr6]

@@hamzakill8 real

[@ZUnknownFox]

you keep showing the footage from the event of that clip they were talking over you can see clearly at 10:58 you even zoomed in on it, it was there so it was 100% server side.

[@1..1..1..1H]

I feel like you gon post 3 videos and dip

[@seth_yukon]

Is this 2018??? Fluump is back!

[@Frank-Reynolds]

THIS IS PACKET LOOOOOOSSSSSS!

[@RedJan2216]

YO Ur back!!!!!

[@TreKaufPL]

Does look like he hits the ball but so light touch it only slighty change direction but maybe thats only an illusion 👍

[@thepetergg_rl3009]

back FLuuMP is no way

[@jarumes]

Squishy muffinz hacked the game confirmed

[@smexyhexy]

heeessss backkkkk W

[@Rocube-s5m]

Solent everyone keep boost bound to circle?

[@mastac5758]

Bro such an old gum story, but hey thats why i never side flip if i go in a 50 or predict the ball could be 50ed Ayyjayy predicted someone behind the ball and when he saw the ball got touched to the side, he sideflippes. BUUUT if you know your m8 is clearing the ball, backflip and stay close to net. This story is really old and rocket league has changed my man

[@nevrmynd9635]

Is this a new content creator? Who is FLuuMP

[@timyassa4343]

My download speed is just over 500 mbs and I still get lag :/

[@billyrussell8684]

Why did syp even go when no one else was on the ball? Nrg was at midfield. Panic on defense plus packet loss is what lost this game.

[@nevrmynd9635]

Lowest ping I've had is 4, connected 1tb fiber

[@CroixMC]

qestion for the nerds how would they fix this

[@pal1531]

Letsgooooo W fluump

[@Derny_Boy]

I have an average of 12-20 ping per game but sometimes 5-8

[@Enderblade18]

This is the whole game for me what's new?

[@willnewell9242]

say hi to us more on this channel. but there is a reason why a bunch of people instantly improve on pc lol i was hardstuck c1 freestyler and about a month after with coaching i hit gc once i got my pc

[@Delqa]

W

[@JD-ql8hx]

Omg fluump you are the true 🐐

[@COVID_Is_Not_Over_Yet]

FluuMP! What are your thoughts on the removal of trading? I’ve been thinking every day that it’s terrible for the game and most agree.

[@mitsbtw5894]

I saw this live and i immediately called bs on the NRG Fans saying ayyjayy was bad

[@connormcqueen1610]

OMGG FLUUMP

[@ibrahimalkhleelqwaralous7888]

Prime NRG ❤

[@Trazxst]

every region i try do not work i have 337 ping constantly

[@ethantaylorphotography]

because theres no such thing as a ping reducer, it's probably a crypto miner for the devs of the app (i could be wrong)

[@Kaang_OCE]

Be real tho how did sypical miss this tho

[@thatcrispywaffle4745]

wait so he didnt die?

[@gamerandcontroller9129]

I don’t understand this format. Shouldn’t it be something like, “top 10 times lag affected a game in RLCS”?

[@Dinosalmon14]

The lowest ping i can sit at is 8 i think

[@rifqiramadhan1778]

Came back from motor league I see.