Fly Tying Tips - UV Resin

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Check out the video description for more info, links to other videos, and general good stuff!!

[@justin1979ify]

flyfishingtheozarks , do you recall what size craft foam you used on the frog? 1mm, 2mm?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

@@justin1979ify 2mm Craft Foam

[@joeshoe4940]

Yes I have been under a rock for 6 years Thank you I needed this

[@labtrainer09]

I'm relatively new to fly tying but have a long background in building boats with various resins. That leads me to a couple of observations: First, the UV-cured resins used these days in fly tying CAN be epoxy based. Or, they can be polyester or even acrylic based. (Sunrez, for example, is typically polyester based.) Second, resins-whether epoxy or something else-don't bond well with waxed surfaces. Refined waxes, in fact, are widely used as mold release! This-at least in my mind-strongly suggests that I should buy and use only UNwaxed thread when tying flies. But my searches for information on this issue in the fly-tying world have come up empty. As a fan of UV-cured resins, do you have an opinion on waxed vs. unwaxed thread?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Makes TOTAL sense! Anymore, when I use waxed thread (which is REALLY rare) it is only for nymphs and dry flies.....which will rarely see UV resin.

[@labtrainer09]

@@flyfishingtheozarks Thanks so much for your supportive reply. I was beginning to think I was crazy because so few people mention this bonding issue.

[@j.cberlin1384]

Before u.v resins I used to use epoxy a lot and I found out waxed thread was no good around epoxy flies , the same applies to u.v resin .I usually use invisible thread , that seems to disappear in the resin and also takes markers very well if you want some color , once covered with resin it won't wash away .

[@andrewsnyder179]

Love the tips series. The fact you bring the " font take things so seriously " out but yet offer great information is refreshing....but that seems to be your thing. And I for one enjoy each and every post whether a blog or fishing or tips. Keep em coming!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks, Andrew! Always good to hear!!

[@Utahlonghorn]

Great information as always Brian. I really appreciated you telling us which one you use the majority of the time it eliminates that doubt in our minds if we’re using the wrong product. Also love the germex tip!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! I do lean REALLY hard toward the Loon Thin.

[@mikegerard8712]

Just started researching the UV resin products. Thanks for this video! Really like the idea of using the colored resin as a hot spot. Thanks again.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks for watching!!

[@paulandsallyh5824]

Nice video. Save big money by mixing your own colors with powdered pigments and ultra thin glitters. Fantastic range of custom colors for your flies. I also use resin to set or control tying materials into proper position. Finally, create permanent eyes or markings by covering permanent marker with resin. Clear nail polish [they are all the same] is my preference to coat resin as it creates depth in the finish. Paul

[@cmiheatingandcoolingllc5796]

Well being a newbie to this fly tying… this vid helped me out a lot!!!! Simple to the point and as always very affective!!!!!!!!!!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks!

[@charlieboutin3341]

12:30am..My first video of 2020! Happy New Year! (Great video by the way👍)

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Honored! Thanks!

[@icejunki]

First time to see your content. KZbin suggested your video first when I searched UV resin. I'm glad I found your channel. Great Content! SUBSCRIBED!!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks so much!!

[@JustinCarf]

Great video! So many uses for UV resin. Those mean looking eyes from DMC are killer!!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Aren't they cool!!

[@WilliamRockseo]

fantastic video, thank this helped a ton. I am just getting started with UV resin :) and love loon

[@50ZBuck]

I use it to make eyes on fish skulls to. Gulff FL. orange with a dot of black for the pupil looks awesome!

[@mlevesque33]

Great tips. I apply a thin coat of Flow over the Thin and Thick UV resin (I also use Loon) and the tack is gone.

[@aricheath3670]

Happy New Year! 1 tip is always wear UV protective eye wear, you'll thank me in 20 years. keep up the good work.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

No kidding! I think about that a lot. I usually look away or block it with my hand.

[@PiscatorFlies]

Great video Brian. Resins are great and I really enjoy using them as a shoulder under soft hackles. One other use is making shrimp and crayfish eyes with it and a little bit of thick mono. Cheers and a happy 2020.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I actually have that on my short list for a Tying Tips Video all on its own. Thanks man!

[@coreystoner4129]

Loon is not my favorite for super thin uv resin. Solarez bone dry is my favorite for head cement and coating the body of my nymphs. I also use it on the eyes of my pine squirrel terror (pst) sculpin and just smokes fish.

[@jameskerr9897]

Been using that trick you showed on the soft hackles on a larger scale for streamers for a couple of years now. It's a great way to get materials to flare similarly to bucktail. Works great to flare materials like sf fiber, craft fur, etc...

[@timg2798]

Great video Brian! I learn something EVERY time. As stated in multiple comments below - definitely do a tutorial on that stone fly!!!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWm7m4eNq7Jno9E

[@timg2798]

Thanks for the link bro! Freaking thing is sa-weet! (Ever think of putting together a small "kit" with all necessary materials to tie like 10 of those - keep the cost at like 12 bucks maybe 15 - I'd buy one! Just sayin)

[@jasoncyrbok5520]

Vedavoo is top tier! love their stuff and use a ton of it. Keep up the great vids Brian and have a great New Year.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

No kidding! They make their stuff SO OVERBUILT that it will last for several generations!

[@Oholisfliesandfishing]

Since there are bunch of colours available instead of going over nymphs skin or similar stuff with uv its easier, more durable to go with desired colour of uv directly over dubbing.... Uv will soak into the dubbing and when its cured... "well, i hate to say this again, but its bulletproof" cheers and happy new year Ps: good video...

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I agree....but man, I like to put UV Resin over something shiny and smooth--makes it "pop" and guarantees it will be smooth.

[@Oholisfliesandfishing]

@@flyfishingtheozarks agree on that.. 👍

[@harryleichtweis3378]

In a pinch, can be used for waders repair on pin holes and minor rips and seam tears.

[@livinonthereel2135]

Great video as usual Brian. I have been tying flies for 25 years and Loon has become my favorite. I took up airbrushing fishing lures and use it on my smaller minnow patterns. My daughter received a talking puppy for Christmas and one of the wires broke from the soldier joint. I took some uv resin and reattached it and has been working ever since. Lots of things you can use it on.

[@garrettlaubinger9088]

Personally for my fishing, I still prefer epoxy on bigger flies, like muskie and pike flies. I've found uv epoxies to still be kind of brittle when I'm fishing toothy fish, or around rocks and trees. It's perfectly fine for trout/panfish and bass flies. Something I always do after I set the uv epoxy is stick it in the sun for 10min. Helps remove the tack from the resin and makes it much more durable. Uv epoxy has definitely found a place in my tying, but I still feel real epoxy still has its place. Great video and love your tips series!

[@briandunn3065]

Thanks Brian, great season. Would like to see that Double Deceiver fly you have in the vice.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! Here is Alex Lafkas' Deceiver kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJexm6CDhchlaM0

[@bobert288]

Mix metal saw dust or glitter with the resin for added weight and reflection

[@theghost2765]

One reason i use Raidzap. They think about how the resin can effect you in long time use. Some brands are not good to use. People dont think about the effect some resins have to you as a user and the people around you. I have read the warning lables and datasheets of some brands and its some bad stuff in them.

[@ArcticFlies56]

I was very unimpressed with Loons UV Resin and I’ve used it for a long time. The problem I found is that it started out clear and after a week or two it turned milky yellow over time. As tiers, we put a lot of effort into planning and tying our custom flies. I spoke to Loons a number of times about it and their answer was that they didn’t know what was causing it. So I went to Deer Creek clear UV Resin that stays clear.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

That is odd. I use Loon constantly and can't remember that happening. Maybe it was a bad batch?

[@yvonpoitras916]

@@flyfishingtheozarks it did the same thing to me turned yellow hate the Loon product, went with Bone dry and never looked back

[@ttteg-tq8ln]

Are the bulbs in the uv flashlights mercury or gallium bulbs. That is where “tack” is figured out and cured correctly. Its all about the millijoules when curing uv!

[@Beardedfurflinger]

Brian have watched & love your videos,the information is simple & informative,tack with resin isn't a problem use a head cement over it,most uv resin come tac free now,tight lines & bent rods 🤟

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks! Much appreciated.

[@justin1979ify]

Bro, I need a tutorial on how to tie that frog like yesterday! That thing is SICK!

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

There is a link in the video description, check it out!

[@markrigg6623]

Thats not tying, that's model making.

[@johnnylightning1491]

If you read some of the fiberglass information on the web it talks about wax that is used for the finish coat and the tacky stuff is used to laminate before the finish coat. Maybe adding a little of the wax to the resin might help the tackiness, but I don't know if it works with UV resin. But, (ain't there always one of those), I think you have to buy the wax in fairly large quantities, like at least a pint, maybe even a quart or gallon, but hey it might be a solution. Check with Solarez or one of the other fiberglass purveyors.

[@wolverinex4243]

I think I need this. Don't know which is best tho.

[@russelllieser4226]

Great video. I like loon but seem everyone uses a different brand. Like knowing it is ok to use loon.

[@joshpilon08]

How about a video on that stone fly lol good run down too. Keep it coming man.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWm7m4eNq7Jno9E

[@warrior.8745]

Loons customer service is the best I have seen.

[@Waty8413]

6:15 Need a video for that stonefly...

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWm7m4eNq7Jno9E

[@TheEastBayAnglers]

Yes Please

[@deanbridgwood8755]

Smashing video bud

[@dennisshaver123]

I am wondering how the different colors would work on small ice fishing hooks. The smaller and brighter the better. Also...with this hold up in extreme cold weather?

[@diyonthefly]

That's not a fly.... it's a damn bird! 😂 good video thanks

[@hankvana2149]

Yeah, UV resin (and CA glue) have been a huge benefit to fly tying - I wish they were available 50 years ago when I started tying flies. I like the Loon products but the prices here in Canada ($50 +tax, +shipping for the 1/2 ounce size) are ridiculous. I just received an order of Chinese UV resin (three 100 ml bottles = 10 oz for $30 - no tax, free shipping - took a month) and think it is excellent stuff. It is in between Thick and Thin in viscosity; sets up crystal clear and hard with a 10 second exposure (Loon Infinity light @ 1 inch distance) with about the same tack and the Loon resin. I am looking into thinning and tinting the resin - there are lots of resin pigments available to customize colors as needed. The Chinese UV resin does have a bit of a smell (not bad really) but the price of the Loon resin out and out STINKS! I like the subtle, translucent color I can get using a felt-pen on the resin; I apply/set/clean the resin; color it as desired then top-coat with more resin - works great! Cheers!

[@Oholisfliesandfishing]

Can u send me a photo of that chinese stuff... I may be using similar 😀. Thank you and happy new year 😀

[@hankvana2149]

@@Oholisfliesandfishing will do, give me a couple of minutes.

[@freddiegonz4113]

You don’t know what those Chinese put in those stuff you’re using. I’d pay a little more to protect my health.

[@hankvana2149]

@@freddiegonz4113 Know what you mean about the unknown chemicals in Chinese stuff. Still, all of these products (no matter who makes them) contain chemicals that are hazardous and you should take reasonable care using them. Even regular epoxy can cause problems as it builds up in the body and cause an allergic reaction. My friend used to make canoes and can't go anywhere near epoxy or epoxy dust.

[@missviolette22]

With an alcohol ink, you can make the clear any color you like, and add mica powder too.

[@brysonfoy980]

Great video! Were those streamers both modern deceivers? The blue looked like it had some ripple ice or something?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

The Olive/Yellow is a Modern Deceiver, the other is a Disco Deceiver from KCFLYCO

[@timg2798]

Could use your help with a uv issue I'm having.. I use loon thick. Apply it to thread, eyes and wing cases. I am having a challenge where half of my thread applications and all of my wing case applications pop. IE after some time the coat lifts off the surface and looks cloudy. I can easily scratch it off. It's rubbery too.. am I curing it long enough or maybe too long.. any thoughts?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Hey Tim! First, I'm not a super big dan of using UV Resin as head cement on thread. I think super glue or Sally Hansen's works a lot better. When it comes to wingcases, it does seem odd that all of yours end up peeling. I have used Thick for hundreds of wingcases and only had the oddball peel or do anything it shouldn't. Does it happen when you use it on synthetic (Thin Skin, Flashabou, etc) as well as natural materials (Pheasant Tail fibers, Peacock Herl, etc)?

[@michaelbacile8439]

I just got my first loon kit, I was using some no name stuff and have been losing a lot of eyes. Loon comes with two tips and a brush. Anyone have tips for storing the different tips and brush after use between tying sessions? How do you keep them clean and gunk free?

[@tylerdobleske5140]

UV resin to make eyes for crab, shrimp, and baitfish patterns using 30lb Mono and loon UV paint

[@Naturally_Fly]

Damnit Brian, now I need to get some Hot Red Resin...Great Video!

[@cryptocrush-823]

So, I’m put off by how expensive Loon products, especially their UV resin. I found a great alternative on Amazon called, “DecorRom” UV resin. You get 4oz for $16.00 that’s a shit ton cheaper than Loon! And, it works great!

[@mikeking453]

Would you recommend using uv resin if that person had a breathing condition. P.S. Happy New Year

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I would recommend talking to your doctor, to be honest. Loon has the lowest odor out of all of the UV resins I have tried.

[@SneedFamily2399]

do you live in mizerye ???

[@ME-nd5mj]

You can use resins to set the angle of reverse buck tail tie-ins on you big streamers.

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I do the same thing on my Knucklehead. Inuse the resin to hold up the craft fur wing so I don't have to use another material to do the same.

[@ME-nd5mj]

That’s a great idea

[@jameskerr9897]

Been doing this for a couple of years now. Really saves time and thread when reverse tying bucktail.

[@Depp196]

What kind of UV torch you’r using?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I lean toward the Loon UV Plasma light.

[@Depp196]

@@flyfishingtheozarks many thanks for your prompt answer, it’s really appreciate! Best regards. Peter

[@66bigbuds]

The colors are great but for the regular stuff I buy off brand and save$$$$$

[@wolverinex4243]

So all uv resins tack?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Definitely not. From what I have seen, and a few different (non-scientific) experiments the completely no-tack resins are pretty brittle and usually have a high smell when curing. The Loon resins have some tack, for sure but are super strong and super low smell. In my eyes, the tack can easily be wiped off with hand sanitizer (or rubbing alcohol.) The smell is my big thing though.

[@wolverinex4243]

I'll try it with lots of alcohol. Don't wanna be too tacky. I like the hardness of epoxy. With something that little, it won't break.

[@wolverinex4243]

The smell of resin is fine for me, except polyeuro. They seem dangerous like glues.

[@sonofafisherman743]

Just found the channel 👍

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Thanks for watching!!

[@ronniemilsap7716]

Make a video on that frog! That thinks sick

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

I make videos for the Flymen Fishing Company Channel too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCVc4GaZ9mYl7c

[@paladin7284]

I bet using the colored resin makes tying jelly bean zonkers 100x easier

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

Probably 10,000X's easier ;)

[@FlyTyer1948]

Oh, it’s a fly? I thought you had a pet bird sitting on your vise. ;-)

[@jongregory886]

Bet that germex is really getting used now. Ain’t it!?

[@flyfishingtheozarks]

TONS!

[@CaptainVincentRusso]

Use a Q Tip, not your hands,;works great for me.,

[@theodore4773]

uv resin is all right, the prise tag is a joke

[@evgrin1507]

For a thread wrap whip finish I’m still a firm believer in sally Hansen’s

[@nichtverstehen2045]

loon uv sucks. overpriced crap. sticky no matter what.

[@kellythompson1649]

Solarez. No tack and no smell. 100% better product.