How I feel about upcoming X-Plane 12

[@raspect333]

I clicked and watched the whole video thinking it would be one of those channels with a million subscribers, and i am shocked to see you only have 40. this video is fantastic and i hope you get the recognition you deserve.

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks so much!

[@jaymac7203]

102 now ☺

[@theflightwrights1902]

@@jaymac7203 161 now.

[@joem.6946]

Ok

[@AmauryChihuahua]

Same

[@nonyabizness8692]

X-Plane has been slow to innovate for years. I'm so glad MSFS 2020 came out. It lights a fire under Austin's behind to pick up the pace and improve their product. X-Plane still has the physics and I still enjoy flying it, but I'm not a pilot irl. I need visuals that please me and X-Plane is bland unless you buy 100's in add-ons

[@grzegorztomasiak]

exactly!

[@showmoke]

Same here - for me there has to be a vast improvement in the default scenery compared with XPlane 11 for this upgraded sim to be worthwhile getting.

[@mememachine5244]

Even with 100s of visual addons it doesn't come close to MSFS, and for airliners it not on the same lvel as P3D, really hope xplane 12 gives it a new lease of life.

[@showmoke]

@Andrew Grey - yes, you’re right about that. That’s why I have OrbX’s addon scenery, because the installation is so easy and everything is done for you with their installation software.

[@ZicajosProductions]

@@mememachine5244 I partially disagree. These days, there are many XP11 airliner addons that surpass the fidelity of P3D. Take IXEG, inibuilds, or Toliss, for example. We can’t ignore these. Visually, yea, FS2020 has it, but as a pilot and long time simmer I’ve found FS2020 borderline unbearable to interact with, and I honestly enjoy XP11 more. YMMV tho.

[@bobfs8891]

Very fair and balance perspective of X Plane 12. Best video I seen so far. Keep up the good work.

[@vitormd1138]

This video is amazing! I'm pretty impressed that it's not a big channel but yet the quality stands up to many of the "big" channels in the flightsim community. Keep going, you nailed it this time, i bet you will keep nailing it in future videos!

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks so much! This will definitely help me to keep going with this :)

[@vitormd1138]

@@FlyByMax I think you're the first channel with less than 1k subscribers that i have ever subscribed without being of a friend of mine so, congratulations! Can't wait to type in the future: "I am here since the 200 subscribers" on your 10k sub special!

[@rd4859]

This is a really well put together video - well done. I think it pretty much reflects my own thoughts about flight simulators. I really appreciate your enthusiastic and positive tone at expressing your opinion. I think would should be thankful for the developers that produce those amazing products. I have been a simmer for more than 15 years and I have seen the developments in time. Keep these videos coming and looking forward for your review once XP12 is out.

[@FlyByMax]

Thank you! Means a lot!

[@RuohongZhao]

I’m excited to see someone has content of flight simulator and aerodynamic explain. Awesome job mate.

[@WillLeingang]

So many great clips and very well edited! Looking forward to it as well.

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks!

[@campus206]

I have been testing X-plane since version 6.50, my first MFS was 98, and I still think that X-plane is still much superior in flight dynamics even now, for me the important thing is to simulate the flight, landscapes and visual aspects are secondary to me, although everything can be improved

[@ksp1278]

I expected your subscriber count to be huge, and when I looked it's "only" 245. That's crazy to me. This channel will blow up for sure. Very high quality content.

[@FlyByMax]

Thank you! Means a lot!

[@thestupidcupcake8334]

now this is what we call content for a 500 subscriber channel, you deserve way more!

[@Southernswag8283]

You sound like a million subscriber channel. Came to the comments to see if anybody else noticed you weren’t and I’m glad I’m not the only one. Very well made video and love your professional sounding voice over. Hope you receive many more subs!

[@FlyByMax]

Can't thank you enough for this. Hopefully I can make the next videos as good!

[@ddsdss256]

I just wish that both MS and Laminar would pay a lot more attention to the currently atrocious "ATC" in both sims. Apart from ridiculous approach routing or getting vectored into terrain and the inability to air-file/modify a flightplan (such as requesting an alternate due to weather, altitude change to avoid icing, or even getting an altimeter setting), the lack a "seamless" way to interact with ATC--which is an integral part of real-world flying--is simply not immersive. It would also be great if they could incorporate voice recognition, so the "text format" ATC interaction could be eliminated. Couple that with solid VR, and you're getting as close to a full-motion sim as you can get with a PC. Way too much focus on eye-candy (although it's got to look believable) at the expense of functionality (that goes for both sim families).

[@singhamaninder5836]

Channels with Millions of Subs couldn't hold me for 2-3 minutes, I thought I have some disorder like ADHD, turns out I needed quality. Such a Great Video

[@FlyByMax]

Thank you!

[@dannymiester5825]

It definetely needs updated visuals, if they get that right it could be amazing and it might make me switch from fs2020, although fs2020 looks amazing I am getting fed up with the things that are still missing, or the things we had but are not now working properly like the ai traffic for example, and the constant updates that break the sim

[@sporkeh90]

You play FS2020? Did you play X-plane 11? Because FS2020 totally sucks compared to it except for visuals. The aircraft systems are horrendous in FS2020. The one thing that the old FSX did better than X-plane was co-op (flying with a real life co-pilot), they removed that.

[@antoniomaruge8218]

Thank you for this video..🙏🏼 I love xplane 11 and can’t wait for xplane 12 to get here.

[@joaobettu]

Really enjoying the videos. Great work!

[@FlyByMax]

Cheers! Makes a big difference, thank you :)

[@OrlandoAvgeek]

amazingggggggggggggg quality from such a small channel!!! I can't wait to see you blow up in the future! (I subbed)

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks so much!

[@leokimvideo]

The fact is MSFS has crushed XPlane. Microsoft has the magic of real world environment that look very real and not washed out like XPlane. In the end what impresses people is how real things look, not the tny fact that a systems switch is there to dump the toilet to air. XPlane has a lot of catching up to do now and thats sad considering it was not hiding away for so many years like MSFS

[@itz_ivogameryt5937]

Hey man I loved the video, and I think your channel is going to be a sensation in the future. You'll do great!!

[@Donity]

amazing video, deserved every last view. That's how you get attention as a small youtuber! Incredible

[@ergenekonkucuk1649]

Great evaluation and informal video , Im sure next year will be a amazing year for Simmer , everyone must have Xp11-12-MSFS 2020 even P3dv5.. All of them keep going well and also have advantages and disadvantages over each other. I m getting used to XP11 (also have all simulators) and realizing that most frendly user platform I have ever had. Thank you again again your great video ..

[@FlyByMax]

I'm also very excited about this year, thanks for your comment!

[@dantheman7357]

I too am really looking forward to XPlane 12 and I really appreciate Austin and his crew working so hard to develop and improve a Flight Sim that we already love. Thanks Austin .

[@Djeez2]

What you did not mention but what I consider a big plus of X-Plane over the Microsoft series of flightsims is that it is way easier for us cockpit builders to connect to the sim. In X-Plane there is a standardized way using commands and datarefs that makes it possible to control every plane (with a little detective work) while in MS you have to hope and beg that there is some way of connecting to an aircraft system.

[@DarthWindu06]

Ayyy another glider pilot that’s excited about the clouds! You love to see it, glad to know i’m not alone😄

[@briank3754]

XPlane 11/12 strengths will not be appreciated by most casual flight simmers. MSFS 2020 is a truly next generation simulator and will change gaming altogether. The AI and generation of realistic scenery for the entire world is absolutely incredible. MSFS will bring the masses to flight simming which is great for the flight sim and aviation community as a whole. I really enjoy MSFS 2020 and when I want to do a VFR flight anywhere in the world, MSFS is really enjoyable. But as a real world pilot, you can’t beat XPlanes flight modeling and realistic feel you get from the aircraft. Instrument flying is simply much better on XPlane. The mind blowing visuals of MSFS don’t matter much in the soup. I own both and fly both sims regularly. But prior to last year, I was XPlane all the way. One last note, if you plan on flying in VR XPlanes implementation is better and more mature at this point. But MSFS in VR with a capable computer is incredible.

[@ksp1278]

I think it's fairly easy to tell that right now MSFS is more of a game than it is a simulation. X-plane just feels better. I only started flight-simming a bit over a year ago, and was quite disappointed with MSFS. I had, used xplane 11 for maybe a year before I bought MSFS a few months ago. xplane is the simulator that I keep going back to. MSFS is great for the landing challenges and discovery flights though. Also MSFS has no support for multiple monitors, which is a deal-breaker for me. I'm currently building an 8-screen cockpit (5 are visuals). X-Plane is the only choice that makes sense for an immersive cockpit experience (not counting P3D and FSX).

[@briank3754]

@@ksp1278Wow, I was not aware that MSFS did not natively support multiple monitors. You could try Nvidia surround, but I don’t how well that would work. I typically fly in VR and have a single 43 inch 4K for instrument flying. Instrument flying in VR is a pain. I can only speak for the Cessna 172 and Piper Seneca, but compared to the real thing there is no competition in realism. XPlane for the win. MSFS is fun and you stated, Microsoft is going more for the video game feel and pushing it to XBOX. This is fine by me as I enjoy the visuals in VR, but XPlane will remain my sim of choice going forward. Hope your home cockpit setup goes well. I would like to set up a killer system at home, but I have to save some money for real flying when I get the chance.

[@briank3754]

@@ksp1278 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGm8h3WFlpalfq8 this is a 3 screen setup using Nvidia surround with MSFS.

[@ksp1278]

@@briank3754 Yeah, I have tried nvidia surround. My front 3-screens are 27" 1440p. Like the video you linked, it looks fine in the centre, but past the half-way point of the side-screens the distortion is quite severe. You can perhaps, get away with 120 degrees field of view with nvidia surround. With x plane, and 3 screens you can do 180-210 degrees with no distortion. Performance is an issue though. It's much harder to drive three separate views compared to one wide one.

[@PainDive1]

I hate the flight dynamics in MSFS, you cant flair the airplane, its like it will fly forever with no engine lol. Assobo really fucking sucks!!! MSFS is a prank on all the pilots. Assobo must laugh their asses off watching real pilots trying to fly their stupid paper airplanes!

[@What_If_We_Tried]

Excellent video and appreciate your engineering expertise that you bring to your analysis. * subscribed

[@flyingislander]

P3d user here, cool video. Happy for you Xplane guys seems exciting. I agree with you about MSFS, ive tried it, yes its pretty but lacks depth. Glad flight simulation is thriving at the moment. its great for everyone and each sim.

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks for stopping by! I agree with you 100%. I've always wanted to try out P3D, because it has some pretty epic payware, but unfortunately I can only afford X-Plane at the moment :).

[@flyingislander]

@@FlyByMax similar story, Would love to fly some xplane add-ons. But it would become another money pit haha

[@davew3715]

MSFS is for sightseeing. X-Plane is for pilots.

[@viarnay]

Just download some HD scenery for X-plane and you can sightsee some nice stuff :- D

[@ksp1278]

100% agree.

[@guitarheaven1747]

With one little problem: Not for really old-school VFR navigation. When I look up reference points on my maps, I can be pretty sure I've got just about no reference of that whatsoever in X-Plane. One of the visual reference points in my home airport's traffic pattern is a large silo, and while that's not built in MSFS either, I it least can see the satellite image of it, thus have my reference. I pretty much use MSFS to practice in certain terrain, VFR navigation and as you said, plain sightseeing, X-Plane to practice specific qualities and functions of a certain aeroplane itself

[@ksp1278]

@@guitarheaven1747 That's very true. But you can go some way towards helping x plane by buying or making satellite imagery for the areas you want to fly. Whilst that's not as convenient as just having the whole planet ready to stream, I think it's ok.

[@derekec]

Thousands of real world pilots have used MSFS to supplement their training as in procedures, instrument scanning and instrument navigation. My forays into X Plane 9,10 and 11 have been disappointing given all the marketing hype for realism. To say MSFS is for sightseeing vs XPlane reveals some ignorant arrogance. They both have strengths and weaknesses but at least MSFS doesn't pretend to do things it really does not do. For GPS functionality I will go with XPlane currently. I would never trust it or even think to use it to emulate real flight dynamics or performance. To pre-fly a route....MSFS though I could just as well and do use Google Earth. Personally, I'm waiting for XP12 if only for not wanting to invest in a new PC to run FS2020.

[@chiefsimpilot]

Hey as a fellow content creator and streamer that grew up on x plane, I share your excitement for this. Nice video.

[@DrowningForward]

Im looking forward to it too. You made a good amount of achievements in your like and you just havr 500 subs? Bruh thats unfair, you make good content. Lets try get this guy to 1k+

[@shermanfox7338]

On the topic of clouds, my dad took me on a cross country, we were flying above the clouds and saw an opening, the way the clouds formed looked so beautiful

[@FlyByMax]

That sounds amazing!

[@aagguujjaa]

I love X-plane because of the advanced physics approach to flight dynamics and other aspects. I think Laminar Research must keep striving to make the most realistic and fun to fly experience out there as the core of their development. Physics first, eye candy second.

[@fartskull27]

Great stuff Max loving this content

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks Chris!

[@quantumac]

I like the fact X-Plane supports multiple operating systems (including Linux, my preference), whereas Microsoft only supports the operating systems made by Microsoft... and then has the gall to call that "cross-platform".

[@jamessv5020]

You are kinda/sorta right. MSFS comes ready-to-play for Win10/11 and Xbox. However, MSFS can run on Mac (with parallels) and Linux (Steam). Earlier this year, VR on Steam started supporting MSFS. In case you were looking to play MSFS on Mac or Linux, HTH.

[@dtrjones]

On the flip side, you also have Microsoft resources and in my opinion, Microsoft and Asobo have pulled off something truly incredible with MSFS bringing in cloud and ai technologies to create a digital twin of the earth. This coupled with VR and decent plane modelling, massive 3rd party support and my love for GA planes, weather and exploration and I'm in absolute heaven.

[@veaseyr]

I know everyone seems to really love Microsoft FS 2020, I find the cockpit modeling in X-Plane 11 better. When I want to do techie flight stuff, I also see myself constantly switching back to X-plane. But love the weather engine and graphics in MSFS 2020.

[@shaanfliesplanes]

Give this man a raise

[@jamessv5020]

MSFS definitely has given the Austin team a major nudge in the right direction. I am excited too about XP12.

[@jaymac7203]

Competition is good for everyone.

[@jamessv5020]

@@jaymac7203 -- indeed

[@maltimoto]

At first I felt a little sorry for X-Plane but then I though: Hm, they were lazy for some years, now they have to deliver...

[@moleisrich1]

I can’t f ing wait! I love xplane period. As a cfii it’s the best!

[@Mixanga]

Bro your channel is percect, Keep going!

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks!

[@piloto_loco]

i wished i had this great capability of speaking and explaining things so nicely and positively as this guy here. didn't expect this from an engineerial scoped person as he describes himself, obviously having proven and balanced multiskills across brain halfs. congrats man and thank you! will subsribe with a hope for you guiding us through the next steps of evolving news across sim platforms and products. from a marketing aspect i give this channel a chance to raise quickly to top, if the right measures are taken and the motivation exists to do so. That would include a refinement of brand (shortening to "flyby" would do it), extension and type of content (transition from a "me" point of view to an overall news type of coverage across platforms, which does not yet exist really) and close up reports into single topics with background explanations, interviews, making ofs, tests, etc). Let's see whether we can turn an engineer into a news reporter with engineerial background and a passion for flight simulation techniques, lol. final point would be giving the audience at least one weekly show and promote the channel accordingly. just some thoughts.

[@ksp1278]

I worry about what the framerates will be on version 12. I am building a home cockpit with 8 screens (5 are visuals) running on a single PC (Ryzen 5950X) with 2 GPUs. I just about manage to get 25-30FPS with Textures "High" and "Objects "High" with the Zibo 737. I very much doubt I'll be able to run Xplane 12 in this cockpit (I don't want to turn down the number of objects).

[@phillipbeharall6271]

Just found your channel excellent I have both sims and I agree with your comments 2 flight sims = happy simmers I've liked and subscribed thank you 👏👏👏😂😂

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

Yes MSFS2020 looks better, but the flight dynamics are so much better in X-Plane ! To me, MSFS2020 is an good looking game, while X-Plane is an real flight simulator.

[@benos4x4adventures49]

they are both real life sims... but msfs have 100% more real life details. i mean c,mon $60 for xplane12 is too cheap. Very little effort put into this game... its more just like a update from xplane11 with a few minor Add-ons

[@Greasytrap4]

@@benos4x4adventures49 you say little effort has been put in when so much effort has been put into to this. I bet you have no experience in developing what so ever. Msfs has spoiled you so much that you can’t even see that this is a massive overhaul from xplane 11. They improved so much things. I forgot what this phenomenon is called but it’s turbulence that happens during takeoff when the air is disturbed around the plane. Xp11 didn’t have that or if it did it was very weak. Things such as improved weather engine new lighting engine new graphics engine improved ground textures snow textures rain puddles ground vehicle sounds road vehicle sounds and 3D trees. May I remind you msfs doesn’t really have 3D trees and if it does its only in some parts of it. Xplane 12 will also have seasons something msfs doesn’t have. Xplane 11 didn’t have seasons. Xplane 12 will have a better improved flight model msfs has a horrible flight model. I mean a real 747 pilot played it landed a 747 touched down at 120 knots bounced off the runway and even he said the physics in that wasn’t realistic. If a real pilot says that then you know it isn’t. Do you want me to continue because I got alot more reasons why xplane 12 is a massive overhaul and has alot of effort put into it. Also who wouldn’t want a 60 dollar flight simulator? What’s wrong with it being cheap? Is that a bad thing?

[@benos4x4adventures49]

@@Greasytrap4 look at msfs again mate...moving people, real life scenery, shadows, reflections and much more. I've had xplane since the very beginning. Yes 60 is too cheap for a high real-life sim. Look at the price tag on msfs but it's worth it. Xplane12 doesn't even have moving people, to me that's a big deal. And the aircraft shadows in Xplane12 are still very blocky

[@ddthompson42]

Q400 is my favorite plane in XP11; lands like a walrus and humbles me every time. I'm happy with MSFS, but do miss blacking out in XP11 when I forget to set cabin pressure 🙂. Looking forward to XP12 and a revamped Q400!

[@chaztitan6457]

I found the original X-Plane at game stop so long ago I forget when it was. Been in love since.

[@LightBlazeMC]

amazing! subscribed

[@FlyByMax]

Thanks :)!

[@Sorarse]

My biggest 'fingers crossed' for XPlane 12 is that it will be compatible with the planes I have downloaded for 11. If the Zibo 737 doesn't work in 12, I won't be upgrading.

[@capt_Iceman]

Zibo is already updating his 737 for XP12

[@MrHughes500]

Hope it will have multi monitor support.

[@Antonio.1225]

going to exciting to see what xplane-12 looks like on launch and comparing the flight physics to MSFS, hoping it feels more rigid then MSFS, MSFS is a little arcadey on the controls for me, i guess we shall wait and see!!

[@mememachine5244]

Spoken like a guy with 0 real flight hours.

[@Antonio.1225]

@@mememachine5244 you would be mistaken there, and y r u so angry, r u gonna try and say MSFS isn't arcadey feeling lmaooo chill tf out

[@tristando9990]

@@mememachine5244 lol I have real fucking flight hours and MSFS is just a bullshit joke game not a sim

[@DudeManBoroMan]

I always thought that X-Plane is the definition of a Flight Simulator and MFS2020 is a good video game about airplanes.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

Not me. I think they both suck. However, I stopped simming when I started flying for real. I liked Condor 1, as the flight dynamics were pretty realistic.

[@SnaxDesAvions]

What Zibo did for flight simulation has been done before, but not in the civilian flight simulation. In the military flightsim we had Falcon BMS wich basically the F-16 with all the systems simulated, like Zibo did with the B737-800, or the Team Fusion Patches for IL-2, and etc. It's not new in the flightsim as a whole, however it was for the current flightsims like XP11, then FBW for FS2020, etc Cool video tho ! NB: I need BEL everywhere, then OO-ZAV, you belgian :p ?

[@christopherbeddoe406]

I'm wanting to get my pilots license this year. Started years ago but wasn't able to finish. I'm going to build a pc for flight Sims and use that to help practice checklists and procedures. Hoping it helps me get through the training a little more efficiently.

[@Cedrikkkk]

Great video, keep your work up!

[@jorn-jorenjorenson5028]

Nice video, I like how you just let both sims co-exist in their own way. Why bashing any sim, if you don't like it don't buy it and be happy to have the option to chose... Apart from many other things, I am very excited about the new weather system that is underlying under the new beautiful clouds. I think, this feature (as announced by Austin on the presentation before the acid trip started) has gotten a bit overlooked by most people. If I got it right, XP12 will let us really "work" with the weather, like flying around a thunderstorm or find the best routes in regards of weather. Like in real word flying, where weather is absolutely crucial, at least with smaller aircrafts. Also the dynamic season and vegetation changes, seem like a huge improvement for the immersion to me. And I totally agree on your favourite screenshot, I looked at it a couple of times and always just loved it.

[@FlyByMax]

Yeah it's an awesome shot. Glad to hear you're as excited as I am :) thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@isaacberryXERXEESE]

Wow Count Me In This is RAD!!! -XERXEESE

[@rickboerma3392]

Ah the Simona, so you studied in Delft as well!

[@kurtlovisa891]

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on some of the upcoming high-fidelity aircraft for MSFS (PMDG 737, Fenix A320). XP12 will be really nice, no doubt, but I feel that MSFS is just getting started. It is also worth mentioning that XP12 will have the advantage of compatibility with previous XP11 addons.

[@superhans85]

I agree with what you said, whether or not you're a XP or MSFS kind of guy, the traffic it's bringing to the flight simming world can only be a good thing.

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

I love X-Plane, I have been using flight sim for 20 odd years but only now with VR has it become REAL.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

I remember learning how to fly Simulator in M.S. flight sim 95. Back in the day flight sim 95 was cutting edge.

[@maltimoto]

I tried to like MSFS. I couldn't. It feels like a game. Only X-Plane with my payware aircraft, Ortho scenery, excellent flight physics and all the add-ons makes me feel like a "real pilot". It feels great to fly with X-Plane. I am really looking forward to the weather improvements, they will make X-Plane even more perfect. And while you mention the MSFS user interface...I don't like it as well. X-Plane has a great, simple menu structure and also he folder structure and the modular plug-in system is great.

[@ksp1278]

I agree with this statement. I have both. MSFS looks pretty, but doesn't not feel realistic.

[@PainDive1]

I agree, MSFS is shit. It feels like flying a paper airplane, it seems Assobo built the game upon a guess. I feel rewarded when I go on Xplane11 and get good landings cause pilots swear Xplane11 is really realistic.

[@chrisadish]

@@PainDive1 so true! I flew 2 legs with the airliners out bound on msfs, return on xplane, 2hours each way. The msfs looked good visually, but the plane handling toy like aerodynamics and toy like landing, gamey scoreboard after shutdown was crap and rubbish nonsense and my pc was singing high fans and heat. Return flight on xplane,smooth flight , very smooth landing,with xenviro, addon scenery etc, very immersive with the aerodynamics and systems depth. Really enjoying it now. I don't care about fancy visuals....x plane is good enough for me!! And my pc ran cooler and quieter !!👍👍

[@ellonysman]

I think...just me,...that MFS2020 pushed Laminar Research to produce a better Xplane product. Xplane 12 will have put them back on an even scale with Microsoft. VR with Xplane 12 should be great too!

[@oystercatcher943]

Looking forward to this as I’ve got into flying with pilot edge lately. LR may never have the resources to compete with MS to get accurate detailed terrain across the world due to loading it of the web as required but I’m very happy to have better flight dynamics and now nice clouds too. I might wish to upgrade my 3 year old Mac though.

[@nonyabizness8692]

They can probably licence the technology from MS.?

[@FlyIslandGuy]

@@nonyabizness8692 Why would they license out the one thing that makes them actually stand out above the competition. If they were to do that, LR research would have great visuals AND the best planes. People wouldn't want to fly msfs

[@nonyabizness8692]

@@FlyIslandGuy I was more wishful thinking than anything. But then again, this is the same company that saved Apple from extinction that went on to be valuable, bigger and better so anything is possible.

[@fsclips]

I own FSX-SE, X-Plane11, DCS, Project Wingman and MSFS. Each of them has it's strengths and weaknesses and I will never understand people that think you have to settle for just one sim. I enjoy all of them and I am sure I will enjoy X-Plane12 too :-)

[@FlyByMax]

Completely agree!

[@cupofjoen]

How my PC feel about upcoming X Plane 12: chuckles* I'm in danger!

[@rakon8496]

If they would have an upgrade path that's reasonable priced i would consider it, but paying the full price each versions when we are getting monthly updates with MSFS? Don't know, maybe if they are delivering with XP12... THX

[@robinsteiner9961]

I hope that X-Plane 12 does better with VR integration, particularly for Macs. I still haven't been able to get that to work in X-Plane 11. VR could be a huge help for pilots aiming to practice and stay proficient.

[@casq882]

They need to put new single engine planes for training like C152, Arrow II, Tomahawk, etc. They need to incorporate 2D panels for small planes like FSX and improve options like panoramic view (without panel) but capable to be use with head tracking because many people love separate devices for their instruments, and they have to invest a lot of money to have three or more monitors for the left or right views. Having only one monitor for the panoramic view and headtracking will be a killer the marker believe it or not. Many new or old pilots in simulation, use Ipads for the glass panels or other instruments, combined with monitors only for the view. There is one UK virtual pilot that uses touch screen monitor with Air manager software for the instruments but the only way to use headtracking is with 3D cockpit nd that makes it redundant. I hope you got the idea and Laminar Research get the memo.

[@mikeklaene4359]

As a former general aviation pilot (I can no longer pass the medical) I would like to see a C182 RG. To me the 182-RG was the sweet spot between power and size. I preferred flying it over the Piper Arrow - though I liked the Piper Archer over the C-172.

[@casq882]

@@mikeklaene4359 that's a good point also because this company's needs to think about the old school airplanes which are the best ones

[@sergioalvarado6504]

Sergio Alvarado 0 seconds ago I have 3 curved screens. all are on .but I fond out that using one screen on start up I could stretch the screen to all 3 screens . It not only helps your frame rate but you can adjust the visuals. Try it out.

[@qwato]

Good informative video, I miss some explanations regarding their aerodynamic modelling respectively.

[@HMSDaring1]

I'd love to have better default scenery, I think the one area where MSFS just blows XP out of the water is scenery, I'm tired of buying every single airport I want to fly to.

[@nukenabber7228]

Then why do all devs like orbx sell scenery and airports like crazy?? I own ms2020 as well but it is really disappointing without Orbx maps as xp11 is too. And in ms2020 all planes fly the same...from 172 to jumbojets. Even my 4 year old can land the planes in ms.

[@HMSDaring1]

@@nukenabber7228 Ahh is that so? The scenery for MSFS seems way better than default Xp11. I have to admit I don't own MS so I'm going just off videos I've seen.

[@ksp1278]

@@HMSDaring1 I wasn't really that impressed with the graphics of MSFS to be honest. It's better than X Plane, but I wasn't in awe of it. Especially the photogrammetry in London and Paris. That was awful, and I disabled it. Water in X Plane though is very poor. But X Plane feels better than MSFS, and each plane flies differently.

[@HMSDaring1]

@@ksp1278 Interesting, thanks for the reply.

[@PainDive1]

@@nukenabber7228 flight modeling in MSFS was pulled out of a toilet!

[@CessSim]

Nice work. Keen on understanding those tweaks you referred to in fixing that washed out look. I have just loaded xvision which seems to help..... hope to hear from you....

[@FlyByMax]

Hi, thanks! This video helped me a BUNCH with making X-Plane's colors look better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHOvomSZr52Hr80 . What I would also definitely recommend is looking at your monitor's settings such as brightness and contrast (my monitor has physical buttons to tweak this). One final thing, recently I've chosen to always set my date and time to summer in the simulator, since X-Plane's winter/autumn colors are very washed out. Hope this helps.

[@MostafaAhmed-cc8eg]

Man you have only close to 2k i am subscribed though and liked

[@FlyByMax]

Thank you!

[@-Sunny--]

FS2020 = INOP x-plane11 = cool modular sim DCS= just started 6 month ago, now bought simgear for 2000 dollars

[@robespierre7927]

I am not too sure how XP12 can compete with a MSFS + PMDG combo

[@nitramluap]

I'm flying exclusively VR in flight simulation these days and MSFS2020 is the hands down winner here... for now?

[@vitvidstreamer2702]

I LOVE X PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!

[@vukkomsija]

Laminar is missing: 1) VFR flying with vanilla sim 2) multiplayer service that will provide gamers (not simmers) to play in different aircrafts without following procedures 3) Drop default ATC- simmers will use some of existing 3rd party networks and gamers don't care about procedures... 4) ship it as soon as possible and work on upgrades

[@vukkomsija]

Oh and vert important question (I did a little research on topic): X- plane on linux and there is no support from 3rd party add- ons producers. Will it be mandatory for them to provide support for Linux for X- plane 12?

[@maltimoto]

1. yes that's true. I have created Ortho for Europe and parts of the USA (4 TB!!!). Looks great, but I hope that somehow this will be part of Vanilla XP in the future, be it online or on disk.

[@vukkomsija]

@@maltimoto I guess I made mistake with my simulator choice and I guess that is about to change. X- plane community is contributing more 😎

[@kevin1873]

I don't really see any difference in visuals from XP11. It looks more like an addon than a full update with very small improvements to visuals and probably not better frames-wise.

[@tedyi8588]

If the add ons on xp11 works without any additional payings and updates Its a go and buy game for me.

[@steveyford7127]

Has the Zibo mod been bought and implemented into x Plane12, do you think?

[@showmoke]

Does anybody know whether OrbX will be supporting XPlane 12? Will their present addon sceneries be modified to cope with this new sim?

[@bobogus7559]

0:44 The 747-400 finally has transparent windows!

[@WingmanDino]

X-Plane is great for the reasons you've mentioned here

[@kalonji64]

I totally get your point about avionics > eye candy, that's why I find Falcon BMS more "immersive" than the DCS F-16 😉

[@mohamedraafi_]

You earned a subscriber

[@TGabrielTPOI]

My only problem with Xplane is that you need to constantly pump money into it to keep it relevant

[@henryluebberstedt7819]

What I really like to see as a glider pilot is a connection between clouds and thermals. Only Condor offers that feature - and this glider sim is looking pretty outdated.

[@ikbenkubi]

Its coming to MSFS2020 :). And you can already create thermals under clouds in msfs by choosing custom weather, set temp to 60 deg C, wind 0 kts and set the cumulus clouds with tops to 40.000 ft.

[@henryluebberstedt7819]

@@ikbenkubi THX!!!!!! Oh, that's a huge plus for MFS 2020 over X-Plane.

[@ikbenkubi]

@@henryluebberstedt7819 For glider pilots like us, indeed!

[@loremaable]

I ve been on x-planr since version 4 and enjoy it .

[@rcn9910]

I tried XP for a bit but had to return to Prepar3d.

[@obriets]

The weather updating abruptly is still a huge problem with MSFS live weather. So much so that I have to disable it entirely.

[@markploeger8624]

If X12 can implement a halfway decent AI ATC (for me and AI planes, doesn't even have to support multiplayer), then I'm already sold. The clicky menu ATC thing in MFS 2020 is the only thing I really miss when playing X11 (along with ATC that doesn't just randomly vector you around for no reason). As an aside, here's a crazy idea: Go backwards on visuals (as an option). I'd love a switch in Xplane to reduce graphics to clean but simple textures (think how VTOL VR looks -- low fidelity but everything is crisp, no huge pixels stretched out). I only sim in VR these days, and with the inherently lower visual clarity of VR plus the higher horsepower demands, I think a "Low Fi" graphical environment could be a huge benefit for VR folks, less-powerful-pc folks, and folks who want better visual clarity.

[@Ace-l8z7q]

Is x-plane 12 like msfs 2020 in the sense that u can fly around the whole world or is it like set map u fly on?

[@showmoke]

From what I can gather the default scenery for XPlane 12 will be exactly the same as XPlane 11 - no change there!

[@davidmcmath7641]

just one question. what platforms is it launching on? I have a PlayStation mostly because I'm a giant fan of granturismo but there isn't any flying sims on that thing

[@1uueeatc]

PC and VR only

[@MegaTraker]

I have X-Plane 9.70 and X-Plane11 .55 love it and even bought a external hard drive just to be able to get the 12 on it . Can't hardly wait I hope they got better ATC a bit like P2ATC.or just look at the x-plane 9 atc they had the good idea.

[@MagnumMike44]

After having to deal with all the issues in MSFS 2020 since I bought it in June 2021, I'll be looking forward for the release of XP 12 and I'm confident Laminar Research will have a cleaner release than what we saw with Asobo/Microsoft.

[@blackjack1-123]

Yup as an x plane 11 user will also buy it u wont regret it

[@MagnumMike44]

@@blackjack1-123 Exactly and I never regretted buying X-Plane 11 either. The difference between MSFS 2020 and X-Plane - MSFS is a COMPUTER GAME, X-Plane is a FLIGHT SIMULATOR.

[@tibor1234]

Cant imgane X-Plane 12 will run with more then 10-20 fps with this Upgragdes . I hope im wrong.

[@codehound8033]

I think it will run at an adequate frame rate. The question will be how much you will have to turn down the graphics and feature settings to get there. I think there is always a trade-off between how much beauty and realism you want and getting it at a frame rate you can live with. At least X-Plane 12 may give us a better experience with the potential to get even better as our equipment improves.

[@hobog]

X-plane 12 graphics for flyingon Mars, here we go! Mars Flight will always be an X-plane advantage

[@antonioiozzi9171]

I agree with you. 🤗