Flyer beware? 60 Minutes' Allegiant Air investigation

[@theorgelmeisterakathesoapm8589]

I fly Allegiant a minimum of one time each year and have for years and have had zero problems and only a few minimal delays.

[@igotanimac1]

The current CEO owned and ran Valuejet, which ran on the same exact business model, eventually one of their 27 year old planes crashed into the everglades, the airline vanished, but the ceo made Allegiant, using the same exact business model that doomed Valuejet, his former airline.

[@mottyk8491]

2:42 minute mark makes me upset, that's totally theatrics

[@jbean9021]

Yeah, diabetes is going ro get her first. She’s not that worried about not seeing her daughter again.

[@InFltSvc]

As a former employee all I will say is this : Even I would not fly on us nor would allow my family. And no! I was not fired , I walked off the job. When you pay $99 for a seat ( or any low amount) to sit in a seat inside a cigar tube being propelled through the air at 550 miles an hour by only 1/8 inch of Aluminum between you and no air, you should really think hard about that ticket you’re about to purchase and remember Value is them with a different name! Fly at your own risk ... you are and have been informed officially by many !

[@thomas-yq4dx]

southwest is a budget airline but i find that it really values safety

[@davidsaviation3253]

This guy rights the same message on every allegiant video 💀

[@gabrielasalem9095]

this is fake

[@gabrielasalem9095]

@@thomas-yq4dx no way, southwest is not safe at all

[@justplanes295]

Sorry to burst your bubble Gabriella, but if one airline with one fatality in 46 years is not safe, then no airline is safe.

[@WilliamLopez-mn3uv]

I fly two time per using Allegiant From Orlando, FL to Minot, ND and have never had any problems in the past two years

[@mattcolver1]

Once on Allegiant we had to fly back to the airport due to a problem. But I've had that happen with the big name airlines too. The only problem with Allegiant is the small number of flights. Once I missed my flight in Las Vegas because it was Sunday and the security line took 2 hours to get through. That was the only Allegiant flight until Thursday. Staying in Vegas till Thursday could have been fun, but I needed to get home and had to pay twice as much for my one way ticket on United as I had paid for my round trip ticket on Allegiant. Don't miss your flight on Allegiant.

[@garettt.4166]

My very first time flying was a couple weeks ago. Allegiant Air from KC to Clearwater FL. No complaint will definitely use them again

[@CherrrrBear]

Be safe. Their aircraft isn't

[@axellrosinia9392]

Came here from joey's vid

[@nicowithrow4390]

same

[@jbean9021]

Who’s joey

[@427SuperSnake1]

She is just mad they made her pay for 2 seats, and it did not include 2 meals.

[@jakeadams7698]

427SuperSnake1 #savage

[@Twobarpsi]

3 seats

[@trvman1]

She will die form being so OBESE before she ever has the chance to die in a plane crash. If she cared about her children, why would you be that OBESE to begin with? Seriously.

[@Twobarpsi]

@@trvman1 great point

[@MrSeth166]

Engine got overloaded and started to smoke

[@JGunit]

I personally love allegiant. Never had a bad experience.

[@Cars-N-Jets]

J Rod Same

[@goodieman8501]

Yep

[@michaelcontreras148]

Ive flown Allegiant for over 10 years frequently, never had a bad experience

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Michael Contreras I have no problem with Allegiant wtf is wrong with you 60 Minutes?

[@Lommy9999]

This fake commemts repeats itself. A comment made by the company itself.

[@maximaniac7231]

I flew Allegiant last month from Vegas to Colorado Springs. Our flight got delayed for 20 minutes due to "mechanical problems." I joked to my wife that they probably forgot to put gas in it. I never fly so I figured this wasn't an uncommon occurrence. With planes being serviced in Mexico and El Salvador, I think we can get used to more "mechanical issues" or even engine failures such as the Southwest one.

[@stylo2095]

We fly from Stockton to Vegas all the time never experienced any issue always a great time Thank you Allegiant!

[@colewofgang2067]

2:33 I was thinking I will never eat a Big Mac again.

[@jungleninja-tropic5690]

engine was struggling because of her jk jk!

[@mcpfamily6039]

😂😂😂😂

[@dalton1462]

And two large fries 😄

[@jonahsgang8830]

That’s not funny don’t fat shame people you don’t now if she is fat because of a disability think about it before you type

[@2003Harleyguy]

I'm a private pilot & my wife & I have flown over 20 times with Allegiant from Cincinnati to Florida. 1 delay of a few hours while they worked on the plane was the ONLY problem we've had or heard of. In my opinion, they are doing a good job of no frills, low cost transportation. I'll fly with them again! This looks like just another 60 minute hatchet job for sensational ratings... As usual... C BS...

[@maximilliangenius5572]

2003Harleyguy ....take your chances buddy

[@gabrielsasala1875]

Allegiant air is the worst airline. They are super dangerous.

[@2003Harleyguy]

Gabriel Sasala What facts are you basing your warning on? I'm not closed minded, I consider all factual info. However, the 60 minute report wasn't factual in nature. Example, at least 11 of the aborted in LV were because of unusually high airport temperatures. Some were other causes like unlocked baggage doors, hydraulic low limits & other common problems with ALL AIRLINES. 60 min made it sound like they were all due to engines blowing up. If you have facts, please share. No I don't work for Allegiant nor does anyone I know. I just know 60 minutes ALWAYS has an agenda.

[@AirAmbassador]

Gabriel Sasala nothing is as bad as Spirit

[@dmhemmi6726]

I work as a aircraft refueler and I can tell you they always have mechanical issues as well as asking for bare bare minimum fuel

[@w2385-i2s]

I flew with Allegiant with no issue. I flew in an Airbus. The 60 Minutes reports are for the older MD80 planes.

[@Labrador54Main]

w23857980 So did I,a couple of Months ago,Almost 3,ALONE of course.

[@Nicholas-f5]

Did you survive?

[@Labrador54Main]

Nicholas Littlejohn Of Course.

[@DisneyStudioNetwork]

Lucky u AA and Delta are phasing out too after Allegiant

[@lewiszim]

You flew with Allegiant on and airbus with no issue and therefore it's only the MD80s that have problems" is not good logic.

[@yousircantknow8987]

How did this turn into a story about him in Brazil in the 80's?

[@lenblack1462]

This is not the main story. It' s 60 Min. overtime. Watch the main story first.

[@Pfsif]

It's always about him.

[@larrydugan1441]

I am a 777 Captain for a large network carrier. My son is an Allegiant Captain. There is no pressure to fly unserviceable aircraft!!! This was a cleverly edited hatchet job!!! The 11 returns to the gate in Las Vegas was due to high ambient temperatures causing out of limit engine idle temperature!!! The NTSB mechanic presented as an expert should have known as much!!! Allegiant was under very high scrutiny and did well!!! To Allegiant pilots, I recommend you get a new union boss. This guy is terrible

[@InFltSvc]

Larry Dugan I call that BS because I use to work for them and no I was not fired. I walked , Front end crew, ground crew , including a 30 year veteran mechanic who is all over the web that was in the Tampa bay newspaper , even agents walked off the job because of this sorry for an excuse airline. Are you just protecting your son so he can get his hours and move up to a Legacy carrier? . Does Value Jet ring a bell in your head????

[@ccmustangs2001]

Larry Dugan thank you. This is absurd. We love the company. My husband is home every night and as long as they keep up with this structure we aren’t moving to any other airline. Pay is great, pilots are great, maintenance is great... all airlines have maintenance issues pop up with every airplane and it is so frustrating to see such a remarkably biased story (as if no other airline has to deal with day to day maintenance issues). I’m hoping to go fly for them too when our kids are older. Also does the public really believe pilots don’t want to make it home to their families? I hope Allegaint sues CBS. Shame on 60 minutes and their so-called “investigation”... leaves me even less confident in the media.

[@victoriah.3413]

Think about what you just said. I am sure he wants his son to be in danger by piloting a plane that is not airworthy. Flight hours are no good if you are dead. I have flown Allegiant several times. Only one time did we have a 2 hr delay because of a air condition problem. The mechanics are the ones that need to do their job right. Its up to them to make sure things are good. Anything can happen at anytime with anything. They have never had a accident and lets hope no airline does anytime.

[@MrEastern021]

NOTHING you can say will get me on that airline......NOTHING. If the FAA won't ground them until issues are fixed then what are we supposed to do?

[@yousircantknow8987]

Larry Dugan If you are what you say you are, then you know better than post KZbin comments.

[@unknownairman1875]

I've flown on alliegent numerous times and I've never had any problems. Sure, it's not luxurious but it's cheap so I can see my family more often. I go from point A to B with 0 layovers.

[@miniena7774]

Unknownairman You’ll be passing B and flying straight to C, if you know what I mean.

[@unknownairman1875]

Greg Caesar C as in Canada?

[@unknownairman1875]

Greg Caesar you should ask how people feel about Southwest right now, bet they wish they flew allegiant

[@unknownairman1875]

Greg Caesar kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKulaa1obJmHfck

[@Sénor_Lobo_Olé]

Nice knowing ya...

[@rac86quel]

People don't realize how this all really does make sense. Allegiant Air's CEO is the same CEO from the BUDGET airline Valujet from the 1990's. This information is like a repeat of that airline. Valujet's planes were very old and had many safety issues. What did them in was flight 592 that crashed into the Florida Everglades killing all 110 people on board due to negligence. With all the negative publicity and having severe financial issues, they merged and changed their name to Airtran airways. AirTran is gone too but now Maurice is the CEO of Allegiant and now all the same problems are emerging again. Putting money before safety with unsafe maintenance issues and using very old planes that were cheap to buy. Someone in the airline industry did their research and traced this airline all the way from Valulet. You couldn't pay me to step foot on this airline. There would be a large risk of losing my life.

[@ajudd4u]

I fly on Allegiant at least 3 times per year for the past 5 years and have never had an issue with service or comfort.

[@MiniMaxiSlots]

Adam Judd Such a dumb statement... That's like saying you played Russian roulette and didn't die, so you'd do it again...

[@Sénor_Lobo_Olé]

Nice knowing ya...

[@satyaanakbali]

good to know

[@bluespirit1156]

Airbus Express Suck a dumb statement. Russian roulette has a 1 in 6 chance of getting shot. While with allegiant you have a 1 in 29 million chance of crashing.

[@blooop9693]

Congratulations. Happy birthday.

[@christophersteele2531]

I fly Allegiant 3 times a year from Kansas City to Mesa to visit my son. Never once have I had a bad experience. The crew and staff have always been friendly and flights almost always arrive early. I’ve never experienced any technical issues. Flights have been smooth and without incident.

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Christopher Steele Same

[@peterpiper47]

I have flown Allegiant and it’s not such a great deal. The ad said 89 dollars but I had to pay for my seat, bags, etc. By the end my ticket was almost 300 dollars for a 1 hour trip, one way.

[@kme06d]

Peter Piper It only gets that expensive if you let it. Don't pay for a seat, they'll assign you one. Don't pay for priority boarding. Only bring carry on bags. They'll charge you for the bag, but the total cost will still be cheaper than the next cheapest airline. The trick to these bargain airlines is to play by their rules and you'll get a cheap flight.

[@peterpiper47]

kme06d But at what cost? I felt like I was in a sardine can. But I always put my trust in God. If it’s my time to go than it is His will.

[@kme06d]

Given the recent issues they've had, I'd rather not fly Allegiant, but you had just mentioned the monetary side of the airline in your comment. They are cheap if you don't pay for the extras.

[@charlesbishop7583]

Peter Piper -What th'... Did you pack your bags with bowling balls and concrete blocks? Do you know about departure fees imposed by the FBOs. Did you schedule your flight well in advance or did you just walk in from the street and ask for a ticket? These are some of the things that the airline, or ticket agent does not have control of. Next time, plan ahead. Better price, better experience.

[@peterpiper47]

Charles Bishop My bag was 40 pounds exactly, which is the max weight. I bought my ticket 3 weeks in advance. So yes I planned ahead and it didn’t matter.

[@ATLOffroad]

I just watched the 60 Minutes episode on Allegiant. I’m not an expert but there just seemed to be a lot of hearsay from the reporter. I have flown several times on Allegiant between Austin and Orlando. We have always been on time and had good service. I couldn’t imagine these planes being unsafe since all the pilots and flight attendants are also in the plane and I’m sure they have families and loved ones to go home to. It will be nice to see Allegiant prove 60 Minutes wrong.

[@bigboineptune9567]

Allegiant recently replaced their fleet of MD-80s with Airbus A320s. The newer A320s are safer, the problem was with the MD-80s which were old and had various technical problems.

[@Cars-N-Jets]

ATLOffroad Can’t wait

[@gabrielasalem9095]

@xRisingWolfx Nobody gets paid nothing, if someone said something or someone you love was not good you would defend them right? I love Allegiant

[@Lommy9999]

You must vote Trump too.

[@ATLOffroad]

@@Lommy9999 What!?

[@charlietroy3492]

I have flown Allegiant Air many times and will again! Never any problems.

[@jamescostello6529]

Greenville SC to Sanford FL many times with no issues.

[@dylanfromschool1427]

Listen, I don't prefer Allegiant Air, but cut them some slack. They're trying they're hardest. They're a budget airline that means that they spend little money on aircraft and services, with the customer in mind. I don't work for Allegiant, or endorse them, but chill out. They're starting to buy into the a320 family and the 757. I have flew with them multiple times, and never had a problem. Personally, I just think that some people overreact when airlines make simple mistakes. All I'm saying is, give Allegiant a break, please. They are doing their best😞.

[@donnietolbert366]

My wife and I fly out of Bentonville AR to Sanford FL at least twice a year. We have been fortunate to never had any issues

[@FlightsCameraAsha]

In two years I've had more issues with major airlines than I've had with any budget airlines. #TeamAllegiant

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Goddess Anonymous One #TeamAllegiant

[@igotanimac1]

Since the date you made this post, Allegiant has had more and more emergency landings, at a higher rate than any other airline in the country. Their oldest plane right now, is 24 years old, and guess what? This same plane had smoke in the cockpit issues in 2018! An Allegiant Airbus A320-200, registration N225NV performing flight G4-101 from Cedar Rapids,IA to Phoenix Mesa,AZ (USA) with 157 people on board, was in the initial climb out of Cedar Rapid's runway 09 when the crew reported smoke in the cockpit, stopped the climb at about 5000 feet and returned to Cedar Rapids for a safe landing on runway 09 about 18 minutes after departure. The airline reported the smoke was caused by a mechanical issue

[@shonaharris9328]

They treated my disable mother terribly the one flight we flew Allegiant. I didn’t know about the mechanical problems. Never again. In general, it’s good to do your research about an airline before flying.

[@02Nawal]

Shona Harris there planes are very old. They're 25 plus years old. They always have mechanical issues. Just go to Twitter and do your research. Allegiant also has the worst service and is always delayed or cancelled due to their old planes breaking down.

[@charlesbishop7583]

02Nawal -You don't know what you are talking about! The age of planes has nothing to do with nothing. There are planes flying today, on a daily basis, over 60 years old and some nearly 80 years old. The FAA would not permit them to fly if they were not serviceable. Under no circumstances would the FAA give a pass to any aircraft or air carrier operation to continue under hazardous conditions. They are very strict about the maintenance of aircraft and airmen records. They even regulate military aircraft. Get the facts straight before you run your mouth...and learn to spell correctly.

[@codeyfoster1105]

Charles Bishop same to you. It’s her opinion.

[@shonaharris9328]

02Nawal- Exactly. The average airplane is 12 years old. Allegiant is from 22-25. The older they are, the more requirements to update, perform maintenance checks, and repairs. And despite all of this, Allegiant didn't follow through. Cheap, cheap, cheap! Compromising customer's safety. They have the worst record of mechanical issues and because of this they have canceled flights and often without notification. They had the worst customer service I've ever experienced and I have flown on many. American, United, and Horizon/Alaska Airlines. Scores of big complaints of cancelled, delays, poor customer service, and scary reports from faulty breaks. I'm surprised it has taken this long for a report. There's been a file planned for the FAA. There's been some whistle-blowing by mechanics and others but not enough has occurred from it. The treatment of my mother was abhorrent. She needed wheelchair assistance and said they would fetch her one. We had notified the airline way ahead and let them know when we got there. We nearly missed our flight. Not to mention when we were on the flight, it just became worse from there. They were very rude and some things were uncalled for.

[@shonaharris9328]

Cody Fost thank you.

[@bobriedel3277]

I am currently stuck in Cedar Rapids, Iowa after my Allegiant flight was cancelled after we waited in the airport for 5 hours. They told us that Allegiant would email us with the rescheduled flight (they didn't). I called the airline the next morning and after being disconnected from hold every 20 minutes for 4 hours, I finally got through. I was told that my rescheduled flight would be in 9 days. 9 DAYS !!! Lucky for me I'm retired and was coming back from a vacation in New York. Imagine if I had been on my way to a job interview, a wedding, a funeral, etc...? I will never, ever fly Allegiant again.

[@ZVB1634]

I’ve flown with Allegiant several times and never had a problem. Maybe I small delay but that’s it.

[@RobertMayfair]

I flew Allegiant this past weekend. Professional crew and a great flight.

[@Nicholas-f5]

We lived too.

[@gregoryconquest1359]

Just flown yesterday was outstanding service from Las Vegas

[@foxtrot789]

So this airline with ZERO crashes is deserving of this story when nearly every other airline has had actual crashes inked their books.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

Yes and when the other airlines crash people are like, look a plane crashed! Who cares no big deal. people are like this when Allegiant has smoke, Allegiant is not safe I would never fly them!

[@jonahsgang8830]

@@gabrielasalem9095 you are right allegiant do not deserve FAA approval to fly they should get there aircraft on the ground and get the maintenance now

[@Lommy9999]

Obviously a comment by someone paid by Allegiant.

[@ScottOSaurus]

@@jonahsgang8830 this story is old they have one of the best safety records in the US

[@coburna5]

@@jonahsgang8830 their **

[@jinflorida3040]

I fly regularly from Concord, NC to St. Pete, FL and have had no issues. The staff has been friendly and helpful. The flights have been on time and my last flight landed in St. Pete 10 minutes early. To be honest, I have experienced issues with American Airlines (may it's because of the increased number of times that I have flown with them). Every time I land back in Florida from an AA flight, I feel like I have a puffy head for a few days. I wonder if AA treats the cabin with heavy disinfectant. I don't have that feeling when I arrive in FL from an Allegiant flight. I feel safe on Allegiant. My wife were held over last Sept. for about 18 hr. due to an AA engine problem. They had to get a part and we flew on the plane with the issue fixed (we were concerned but landed fine).

[@sonpit]

Is this the entire episode? What a joke! Just FYI people ... ALL airlines have incidences of the these types mentioned in this video. As a former flight attendant for a major airline, I personally have had or know crew members who have experienced one or more of these incidences. Yes, an airline can be corrupt or guilty of cutting corners, BUT I don’t think this episode proves that. I actually feel sorry for Allegiant because this type of media can destroy a company. This appears to be a deliberate intend to attack this airline without any real proof. Dear 60 Minutes, if what you claim (unsafe to fly) is true, you must provide more evidence than this piece of fake news.

[@gendaminoru3195]

this was pathetically stupid BS reporting. It was worse than doing a paper in high school. It accomplished nothing and certainly didn't prove anything they set out to prove. They'd be better off going to www.imright.com

[@ChristopherRuhmins]

The episode was a lot longer. I think the amount of occurrences in relation to the size of the airline is what's alarming to people. Plus, it's a very old fleet of planes. However, I don't think a Pilot would risk flying a plane he was scared of I hope. Personally, I would pay a few $100 more to go with a different airline. Pay for a budget airline and that's what you get, risk.

[@technologycentral8733]

Chris Ruhm-Insurance Advisor well, the fleet isn’t as old any more. They retired their old MD80’s and replaced them with an all Airbus fleet. I’ve heard that a lot of the mechanical issues were solved with that

[@LuisMartinez-hl9wv]

I've lost all respect for CBS and 60 minutes. This is a hit piece on Allegiant Air. Allegiant Air is a fantastic airline! I have flown them before and will continue flying them! They have excellent planes, excellent service, and excellent rates! Shame on you CBS!

[@TheJames4746]

I flew Allegiant in September of 2016. A woman told us they closed down the ticket gate early and told 11 of us to go through security with our luggage and they would let us board the plane. We got through and made it to the terminal just for the same woman to be standing there telling us they wouldn’t let us board the plane because the doors were already closed. The plane was then 20 minutes late for take off. The group of people were obviously upset. The same woman called the police on all of us who said themselves that Allegiant does this all the time. She told us to go back to the ticket counter where we could get vouchers for other flights. When we got back to the counter the same woman was there stating that they couldn’t do anything for us after she told us she could at the terminal. It was ridiculous.

[@charlesbishop7583]

James Taylor -So, what's your point?

[@Jl777100]

My brother flies into Southern Oregon with Allegiant all the time. I was wondering why he did, and the prices were almost double with United and AA.

[@MrTaylorfenoglio]

So... you stated that they had multiple issues but never went into detail about a single one.

[@lewiszim]

They do in the main story. This is an extra piece.

[@lenblack1462]

This is not the main report. This is 60Min. Overtime. I watched the main report last night, it was very informative.

[@psycopirla1]

ya right. As informative as watching a soap opera.

[@ccubsfan94]

Even in the main story they just take passenger and witness accounts. They never get to why they happened. Like the lady talking about how the engine "blew up," when it most likely was just a compressor stall.

[@airdocs3595]

Agree, very lacking on details. mostly just sensationalism.

[@otherAntHerrera]

Looks like media is trying to attack the little guy. I am sure it's worse for other airlines they make it sound like the other airlines are perfect.

[@miniena7774]

Anthony Herrera Because they are, more or less, when it comes to maintenance. This is disgraceful. You commoners need to stop pretending you know a thing about aviation, and stick to your day job.

[@otherAntHerrera]

Greg Caesar I am a pilot myself I have seen and heard a lot of stories about maintenance issues from a lot of pilots. There has been a famous crash from America Airlines when they cut corners on installing the engines. I strongly believe they most likely still do cut corners on maintenance

[@miniena7774]

Anthony Herrera You wouldn’t know; things change, oldie.

[@rrknl5187]

I'm also a pilot and know more than a few mechanics. Every one of them will tell you that every airline views maintenance as a costly expense that is to be kept to a minimum. True enough, some are worse than others but if looked deep enough into any airline, you'd find that profit always wins.

[@BruceWayneWorld]

Exactly !

[@dori3will]

Any time you step into an airplane you take a risk. I fly allegiant all the time and I have never had a problem.

[@bobyluppo]

Yeah but you take a bigger chance with low cost airlines. I didn’t book the ticket, my dad did. I worked for low cost airline as a maintenance technician, and the stories I can tell you probably would change your mind.

[@dori3will]

@@bobyluppo Well don't tell me any because I'm flying in 2 weeks LOL Allegiant again after not flying with them for a few years now. I was flying Alaska Air, which I really like., but I got a good deal on ticket prices with Allegiant.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

@@bobyluppo Actually Allegiant is really safe

[@bobyluppo]

@@gabrielasalem9095 So I just flew it, overall condition of the cabin was good. It looked like a flap seal was unsecured and was flopping the whole time. (Rh OB Flap, OB side) Realistically not a big deal, they will catch it on an A-Check. That’s about it. Overall I would fly it again.

[@bobyluppo]

@@dori3will Ok I won’t, however I just flew it on Monday from Cleveland to Charleston SC and I can tell you what I thought about it and what I saw. Overall the condition of the cabin was no different from any other typical airline, it’s a cabin so who cares. I was located behind the wing, only thing that I saw was a flap seal was coming loose or improperly secured. Honestly not a big deal, the location of it is where it would not cause anything to jam, or it would damage anything if it will liberate itself. When speed breaks and spoilers were deployed, I took a look and saw no evidence of hydraulic leaks (that’s where hydraulics run for flight controls) tiers looked fine, and that’s important, because they are very very very expensive and if company changing them before they become slicks that’s a good sign. Overall it looked clean. I won’t be able to tell you the entire condition of the aircraft for obvious reasons. However, from what I saw I would not be hesitant to fly with them again.

[@sean____2886]

I have always had a good experience with this company

[@Le_Phishe]

I have flown Allegiant for 10 years and never had a problem, I feel like people are biased towards Allegiant because other people hate it, and the media cherry-picks the bad stories to MAKE the airline look bad. It's actually a very good airline if you fly on it a lot.

[@Lommy9999]

You mean you never crashed?! There is evidence of their safety dangers.

[@kaddiddlehopper]

You can close your eyes and walk across main street during rush hour and not get hit by traffic. That doesn't mean it was a safe or a good decision.

[@justplanes295]

I refuse to fly on an airline, owned by the same CEO that owned ValuJet

[@toneman335]

I am shocked that there is more corruption in the world and its cover up.

[@kbkites4455]

Was just sitting on a one of these planes about 2 hours ago leaving from Sanford FL to Allentown. Flight was supposed to leave @ 6:45 the pilot came on @ 7:00 to say there was smoke coming out of the APU so they probably couldn't fly that aircraft. Probably?!?! I got up and walked off the plane.

[@douglasgeorge6186]

Now this is a hit piece.

[@Pilot801]

This is selective journalism at its worst! I personally know fellow pilots who fly for Allegiant, and they have said this story is bull sh*t. Every airline, and every airplane in general, has mechanical issues and in-flight emergencies. Delta, United, Southwest, JetBlue, etc., they all have problems too. You'll notice he said in the interview that Allegiant has never had a fatal accident. Why is that? It must be because they're so unsafe. We've grown into a culture that we expect everything we consume to be absolutely perfect. I'm sorry to tell you, but sometimes flights get bumpy. I'm not excusing mechanical oversites, but they happen, too. With every airline. There is some political reason here that Allegiant is being singled out. And for those of you freaking out from this, please understand that airplanes do not become falling rocks if there is an in-flight issue. The mechanics and pilots aren't idiots. This story is ridiculous.

[@cchris874]

The reason they are being singled out is simple. Their incident record is far worse than all the other US carriers. No amount of selective journalism claims can refute this fact.

[@bobfredericks6545]

I never had any problem with Allegiant. I experienced one delay with Allegiant and that was caused by the TSA and the Allentown airport, not Allegiant.

[@InFltSvc]

As a former employee all I will say is this : Even I would not fly on us nor would allow my family . When you pay $99 for a seat (or any low amount) to sit in a seat inside a cigar tube being propelled through the sky at 550 miles an hour under high pressure with only 1/8 inch of Aluminum between you and no air, you should really think hard about that ticket you’re about to purchase and take a lesson from this documentary. Fly them at your own risk!

[@DrMD-1]

What are you on about? Flying is the safest way to travel, and thanks to engineering, people are able to magically fly in a metal tube. I am an airline mechanic, and I take my job and the safety of passengers very serious. So long as the airline has good maintenance there is nothing to worry about

[@briancoley1012]

Pointed, obtuse, and agenda-driven. Shame on 60 minutes and there fear mongering

[@InFltSvc]

DrMD lol you must work for this flying coffin company so your post means nothing. Hundreds of thousands of people agree that this airline is an accident waiting to happen and you know it ! when a 30 year veteran from a legacy carrier walked off the job and goes online and on the record with the Tampa news , you know somethings wrong simple as that, so shut up! And go fix something

[@theswissnavy2801]

DrMD I think he’s talking about cheap airlines, not flying in general

[@miniena7774]

Typical, stupid, naive traveler who thinks he knows everything about how aircraft work. I can’t stand you swines.

[@chrisclark5798]

Makes spirit look like emirates

[@rey5603]

Yesss😂😂😂

[@jonahsgang8830]

Yes lol

[@brycethornberry7070]

I've had nothing but great experiences flying Allegiant at least 10 times :) Looking forward to another next weekend in Vegas! Cheers!

[@Lommy9999]

Ha.... THIS FAKE COMMENT APPEARS AGAIN

[@msbeautyboss3784]

Me and my kids have flown on Allegiant multiple times and never had a problem nor a bad experience (Ohio to FL).

[@CherrrrBear]

The planes are breaking

[@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED]

When was Allegiant Airlines last fatal accident?

[@cchris874]

Incident rates over time are as good or better an indicator as fatalities. There's no question Allegiant's incident record is worse that the US majors.

[@MULTIPLESHOTSFIRED]

cchris874 Thanks I ended up looking it up. They have never had a fatal accident.

[@fredb3959]

he got ya

[@danmclaughlin1180]

Should the FAA wait for Fatalities before they act? They can start by addressing the culture of the airline management.

[@TheHalfpint1961]

dan mclaughlin, unfortunately, that's exactly what ends up happening. nothing gets done until deaths happen

[@tamikawright8696]

I flew Allegiant with no problems thank God.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

Allegiant rarely has problems anymore

[@AndyTK421]

Known a handful of mechanics who have quit this airline due to safety issues. We also worked on one of Allegiant's planes at Paine Field due to engine failure some years ago. Fly by night airline that can't afford the multi million dollar fines, so the FAA looks the other way.

[@charlesbishop7583]

Andy K -Engine failure on the ground. So what! Better on the ground than in the air. Next time fly Southwest. They will give you the experience of in- flight engine failure and you deserve it for your ridiculous comment.

[@hickoryhop6728]

When I was on an Allegiant flight bound for Las Vegas, the flight attendant was blasting hip-hop through his phone while holding the PA mic to the speaker so the entire cabin could "enjoy" it.

[@charlesbishop7583]

Hickory Hop -So, what's you point?

[@hickoryhop6728]

Among the flight attendant's jobs is to create an atmosphere of safety and represent their airline in a professional manner. My point is that my encounter represents the lax attitude of this airline. Oh, and hip hop sucks.

[@charlesbishop7583]

Hickory Hop -I totally agree with you that hip hop sucks, only REAL badly. Not a real music genre. I guess the mentality of the flight attendant thought that everybody got hip hop and was trying to provide in-flight entertainment. Had l been on that flight l would have said that l was highly sensitive to that kind of crap and could you please not do that.

[@MegaGuitarpicker]

I used to watch 60 minutes religiously but they have turned out to be very biased. I am flying Alllegiant Air soon and have no fear that their aircraft will be airworthy.

[@danmclaughlin1180]

Dont be so silly..... your life is worth more than that.

[@Yessir258ski]

Lmao yeah allegiant is fine, I live in Huntington WV and the only airline we have is allegiant, I’ve flown with them like 25 times and never had a problem

[@v31.48]

MegaGuitarpicker is this the full episode?

[@Kang_Kapp0]

Did you die?

[@drewbadboi]

We had mechanic fly with us for 2 hours . They had replaced an engine and wanted to make sure that the guy that put it on went down with us, tie up loose ends.

[@PETERODZZ]

I never had any problems with allegiant.

[@ziggysmom5646]

They made alot of improvements in the past 10 years. Most of the Allegiant planes are brand new.

[@igotanimac1]

@@ziggysmom5646 Nope. Only 12 out of their 100+ planes are brand new. Their oldest one right now is 24 years old, which had a smoke in the cockpit incident not long ago.

[@ziggysmom5646]

@@igotanimac1only 12? Interesting. Here in FL, all the recent flights were on new plains.

[@igotanimac1]

@@ziggysmom5646 Yes, ourtof the 114 planes they have, only 12 were purchased brand new. The rest are 15-24 years old.

[@J0hnny0]

WTF do you think is going to happen when you fly an airline that charges less than $100 for a round trip ticket. You get what you pay for.

[@allthingsfunhavers]

The problem is in our area Allegiant is the ONLY airline with direct flights to Vegas from Medford OR. Infact, we have very few direct flights here...so even though we HATE Allegiant, we also don't want to spend double and have layovers

[@Sirhc2023]

Great and were supposed to fly on this airline on April 27th 2018, LAX to Memphis TN.

[@alexwan4214]

Engine failure happens quite often however it is unacceptable to not order an evacuation when the cabin is filling with smoke

[@charlesbishop7583]

Alex Wan -Tell that to the Southwest air crew, idiot!

[@denisefischer3538]

I just flew Allegiant to Destin Fl. it was a great flight, no issues, had a great flight!!! would fly again!!!

[@leonsingleton4674]

I no longer believe the bias news.

[@basictransportenthusiast4386]

lol surprised they haven’t done this for Ryanair

[@MarcusLeepapi]

Thank you..

[@anwalborn]

I mean, I’ve done my own research a few years ago and I agree with this story. Allegiant was founds by the same man as who founded ValuJet, and has virtually the same business model. They both are low cost carriers specializing in flying to small airports/cities with less competition, and most crucially, save money on aircraft by purchasing older, used planes. Allegiant today experiences a much higher rate of incidents than just about every other major US airline, just as ValuJet did in the mid 90’s. ValuJet was founded in 1993 and grew at an incredible pace, quickly becoming one of the most profitable airlines in America. It started with 2 planes, and by the end of its first year had 15 planes. In one single 14 month period, ValuJet grew from 8 flights a day to 4 cities, to flying 124 flights a day to 17 cities. It grew so fast that it was hard for the airline to grow its maintenance plan, and mechanics were under immense pressure to get aircraft flying again, leading to mistakes and cut corners. In between January and May of 1996, ValuJet aircraft made 57 emergency landings, and on May 11, 1996 ValuJet flight 592 crashed just after taking off from Miami, killing all 110 on board. The crash was caused by a fire of maintenance equipment being improperly and illegally transported in the cargo hold. But that wasn’t their first high profile incident; just one year before, while taking off from Atlanta, a ValuJet plane suffered a catastrophic engine failure. Fortunately it was able to stop and be evacuated with no deaths, but the plane practically burned to the ground. After that incident ValuJet came under FAA scrutiny but only received minor criticisms and some fines for improper maintenance. After the crash of flight 592, ValuJet was grounded for 4 months, loosing over $55 million. In a last ditch effort to save the company, it bought AirTran Airways and underwent a reverse merger. AirTran operated with a different management and slightly different business model, using newer aircraft but still operating as a low cost carrier, growing to flying almost 700 flights a day with 140 aircraft, before being gobbled up by Southwest Airlines in 2011. Allegiant, one the other hand, was founded on the late 90’s, and transitioned into a low cost carrier after a bankruptcy in 2000. 3 of the 4 founders of ValuJet came to Allegiant and helped the airline undergo this transition, including Maurice Gallagher Jr, who has been CEO of Allegiant since 2001. When he took over, Allegiant had just 4 planes, which grew by more that 2 dozen in 4 years. It grew from carrying 80,000 passengers in 2002 to 539,000 in 2004, and to 1.9 million in 2006. But in recent years in started experiencing problems again, but this time in the safety department instead of financial. In 2015, almost half of its 86 planes broke down at least once, and the airline experienced 77 emergency landings, and has been under FAA scrutiny since October 2015. Allegiant has experienced a couple of engine fires in recent years similar to the ValuJet incident in Atlanta in 1995, although none as catastrophic, and without any fatalities. I can’t find the articles to them, although I remember that one of them occurred in Las Vegas within a few days/weeks/months of a similar fire involving a British Airways aircraft at the same airport on September 8, 2015. A few sources I used: airlinegeeks.com/2016/05/11/opinion-is-allegiant-air-the-next-valujet/ www.tampabay.com/news/business/airlines/at-allegiant-a-board-and-business-model-with-roots-in-valujet/2307005

[@charlesbishop7583]

anwalborn -Are you trying to make people think you know what you are talking about? Try telling the whole truth starting with the "true" story of Valuejet crashing into the Everglades. Better still, go into real estate and rent some of that empty space available, between your ears, out!

[@gabrielasalem9095]

anwalborn, new CEO better planes, on time and clean. never had a problem

[@marthavaughan4660]

That video had nothing whatsoever to do with Alliegiant. However, very little will happen until a fatal incident occurs, and then everyone gets in to high gear.

[@blackout07blue]

Host trying to say he was in a plane crash...It's not a plane crash if you safely land but the wheels eventually fall off. Lol. Saying you were in a plane crash when you actually just landed kinda hard is equivalent to saying you experienced an earthquake when all it was, was a small tremor/aftershock.

[@charlesbishop7583]

blackout07maroon -Remember, any landing you can walk away with is a good one.😀

[@AustonRotties]

I love working in the aviation field

[@Nicholas-f5]

that's an airport

[@ericsarnoski6278]

Sounds like they have a serious engine maintenance issue. Smoke in the cabin is usually indicative of a worn out carbon seal on the compressor bearing housing. Flames and turbine wheel failures usually happens when engines exceed the cycles recommended by the engine mfg for replacement. Due to the age of the MD80s it's not surprising that most of the engines have reached their max cycles. It's apparent they don't have enough spare engines to swap out the high cycle ones so they can be torn down and rebuilt. This is a poor management safety policy. Engine cycles are required to be logged so no excuses.

[@crazyzombie8544]

Yes their safety has gotten much better, especially after they stopped flying their MD80s, in favor of exclusively flying airbus a319s and a320s.

[@kyhellbillyify]

Had no problems with this airline..

[@Cars-N-Jets]

sean peace Yeah same

[@gendaminoru3195]

My only concern ever was about the Allegiant crew who ignored a TFR and tried to set up for an approach to a closed airport and then declared an emergency due to lack of fuel to force their way in. Those could probably should have lost their ATP licenses under the FARs.

[@luisruiz2430]

I flown with Allegiant several times and never had an issue and actually enjoyed them Non stop and cheap airfare

[@Clintsessentials]

I've never had a problem with Allegiant Air!

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Clinton Rusthoven 60 Minutes I guess wants “Clickbait”

[@SuperReedScott]

Unfortunately, nothing will get done about this airline until one of it plane crash! The question is do u want to be on that doom plane! Don't fly them. You have better options with similar fares and better safety track airlines!

[@unknownairman1875]

SuperReedScott "similar fares" triple the price 🤣

[@charlesbishop7583]

SuperReedScott -Go rent some of that empty space available, in your head, out!

[@CrystaJoy]

Charles Bishop you must really have no life to answer almost every comment. Yet, you speak of others having decreased white and gray matter... =/

[@gendaminoru3195]

what makes you think one of their airplanes is going to crash?

[@barbaramcdaniel463]

I fly allegiant. They've never had a crash. Hmmmm. Southwest has had plenty. I will support allegiant.

[@igotanimac1]

The current CEO of Allegiant is the same CEO of the former airline called Valujet. Same business model. Buy cheap old 15-20 year old planes with tens of thousands of cycles. Maintain them so so (according to former Allegiant Mechanics) and fly them until they turn 25-30 years old and hope that it all goes well. ValuJet also never had a crash until it had one. When it did have one, everyone found out about their business model, they saw a drastic decrease in customers, which lead to a Merger with AirTran.

[@jeffreyg3831]

..... A lot of hot air in the comments..... 😬

[@yoong___]

"loss of...flight instrumentation" calls it loss of flight controls

[@Applegjg]

Allegiant is horrible. One time I had to switch planes in Orlando because the MD80 had some instrument problem. Another time my flight was delayed because they had to “replace a window” on the plane. Very frightening, I was concerned the cabin would depressurize because there was water dripping from the ceiling. And because their flights are always late, they don’t even clean/inspect the planes between flights. One time, it looked like there was vomit on the floor that they hadn’t cleaned up.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

John Williams, try one more time, they have a new CEO and it is always on time and clean. They don't have MD-80 aircraft anymore

[@mrsfitz1able]

They treated me and my husband terrible as well

[@charlesbishop7583]

Leslie Fitzpatrick -Oh, boo-hoo.

[@tomrizzo1554]

Every time somebody comes to visit me on Allegiant there is always some delay or some problem

[@gabrielasalem9095]

No, Thats a lie, rarely are the planes late, ask someone that is not someone who visits you

[@coletrickle581]

The maintenance issues needed to be reported. But people are acting like the no-frills business model is something new that Allegiant came up with..LOL Besides the MD-80s in their fleet are no older than the same type currently flown in DL and AA fleets. They at least could have mentioned that they are rapidly transitioning to A320 aircraft. Those old planes won't be around much longer.

[@igotanimac1]

Yea, they're rapidly buying used 15 year old a320s, which have had many issues already, including engine shutdowns, hydraulic issues.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

@@igotanimac1 what about the brand new A320s they got not long ago

[@igotanimac1]

@@gabrielasalem9095 They purchased 12 brand new A320s 3-4 years ago, yes. The rest are a mixed bag of 10, 15, 20, 25 year old a320s.

[@jordanamoth6724]

They say 3 times the incident rate but with allegiant It is direct flights so about 1 third the amount of planes does that mean the incident rate is the same!?

[@bradhig]

What is that ramp airstair thing the passgeners are walking down at 4:21?

[@Craig-f6o]

Stairs to get off the plane?

[@Yyyyyy5]

Man, You can fly allegiant from Des Moines Iowa to Phoenix Arizona for $39 !

[@Kevine7001]

So far my experience with Allegiant is well. I do feel like I am flying in a school bus. Other that. Everything was smooth

[@CherrrrBear]

Until it crashes

[@mcsweeney5799]

Who came after nonstop Dan

[@semowery]

I work as a groomer for Allegiant. So much of this is hyped up drama. All airlines have had issues. No airline is perfect. They do constant maintenance on a daily basis on their planes and other than the few dramatic people here on the video..most are happy. It's a budget airline and it gets you where you need to go.. simple.

[@gunsole64]

I said this before and I'll say it again. Isn't it interesting that allegiant has not had one death yet weeks after this report Southwest had it's first fatality......

[@gunsole64]

Hmm. So compared to other airlines like I don't know Southwest with they're clean record (catch my sarcasm) Allegiant is still worse? Sounds to me like you guys have chosen to attack a low cost airlines for some kind of gain.

[@jeremyanderson3298]

This is why southwest is best. Good price, good service, and good planes

[@thegt3clickcrash329]

Jeremy Anderson amen. I love southwest. Affordable flights and no nonsense. You'll have a drink in you're hand within 30 min of getting onboard.

[@algorithm1193]

_engine blows up 12 hours later_

[@debbiearchibald]

Well, so much for Southwest and its safety. Just had a window blow-out and a woman almost blew out of the plane. Every airline has its problems!

[@charlesbishop7583]

Jeremy Anderson -Are you for real? Go rent some of that empty space available, between your ears, out!

[@charlesbishop7583]

TheGT3 click Crash - "Amen" is the same thing the family said after burying their beloved wife, mother, daughter... after she was killed sitting in her sear on a Southwest Airlines flight.

[@tammylanae3066]

Allegiant has had zero fatalities Landing is better than dropping to your death so kudos to Allegiant...All the other airlines have killed HOW MANY PEOPLE ? CUT THE CRAP

[@mixedupmenopausaladhd3999]

This is a strange story. Better research would have given stats like Allegiant’s MD-80s vs. Delta’s MD-80s. People largely don’t fly Allegiant because it’s not convenient. Not because of safety issues.

[@75ytb]

Allegiant has head less issues than Jet blue during its inauguration. This documentary is sponsored by some major airline as a campaign to put dirt on allegiant. I have worked on airplanes operated by major airlines and it’s a disgust what I have seen there. There could be issues with the airplanes which are mostly an older fleet acquired from bigger airlines but that’s not as a big issue given the fact that Southwest Airlines has same issue as they also acquire older models and refurbish them. This is a smear campaign. SDRs are filed by many other airlines. Can anyone find out how many SDRs have been filed by American and delta the last one year????

[@cchris874]

Well, how do explain their decidedly inferior incident record? There's no serious challenge to that, is there? Safety is a relative thing, and I bet CBS did this because these stories sell. But it doesn't mean there's no substance behind the claims.

[@charlesbishop7583]

cchris874 -If you believe what you are commenting on then, I have a bridge in Brooklyn l would like to sell you.

[@cchris874]

Yes, I do believe what I say, and what you say by contrast is pure speculation. One judges an airline's safety by incident frequency over time. A single passenger fatality - the first in Southwest's history - does not establish how safe or dangerous an airline is. Show me that Southwest has an incident record as abysmal as Allegiant's, and that would be a first start. You can't just take an isolated bit of data - ONE fatality, and then declare that proves it's a dangerous airline.

[@charlesbishop7583]

cchris874 -Provide me with information of the number of fatalities or injuries from Allegiant flights and then l will consider your position. Until then...

[@ARpirateant]

Many of the flights Allegiant does are small cities and not to places many airlines fly nonstop to. I have to fly Mesa to Idaho falls because it’s the only direct. I used to fly Phoenix to slc then have to catch a 3 and a half bus ride there.

[@gabrielasalem9095]

Exactly, they fly to small airports where not many airlines go, people go there too you know

[@jameswickersham132]

I just wish the FAA was more proactive (instead of reactive)...just seems it takes a disaster for them to really enforce policy. It looks like the airline is getting better but the magnifying glass/surprise inspections (maintenance) should be the norm.

[@Hart_Daniel]

My problem with this video is that they don't go into detail about why people are 3x more likely to have an incident. They don't claim that Allegient doesn't keep up on maintenance and that is one of the biggest factors in any safety incident. Things happen, this kind of stuff happens with any airline you choose - I feel like they are missing evidence in this video to support their reasoning. I flew Allegient once, my first time on a plane and it was completely safe.