Flyfly DG-505 vs CMPro ASH-26

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[@I_am_archie]

I agree, General hobbies shipping time was missleading, they over promise in delivery time. They do not respond to queries by message. However models arrived (finally) in excellent condition.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

...but the model is a beauty :)

[@I_am_archie]

Brian Phillips howdy, do you know why my stabilization with my lemonrx is backwards with the ailerons on my furry wing? Elevator stabilization is correct.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Each airplane will almost certainly need one or more axis flipped.

[@I_am_archie]

Brian Phillips , Thanks Brian. I stopped being lazy and did some reading. Ya, I had to flip my aileron dip switch.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

;) Nice!

[@keithshillbillyrcn849]

Both are very awesome planes nice flights on both thanks you guys for the video

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank you!!! We're both glad to have something positive to report on these beauties :)

[@DeucesWildRC]

Nice bird my friend! I also love lemon rx receivers, the diversity 7 channel is great and for about 1/4 the cost of spektrum and no apps or cables required, simple and adjustable on the fly! I order mine straight from Hong Kong

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Totally agree, but when the AR636A comes with a BNF, I ALWAYS go for it ;) I'd recommend you do the same, and any PNF, go for lemon-rx for sure!

[@sean911sc5]

Thinking about getting back into gliders. Couldn't believe stabilization made its into these.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

They are so much fun!!!

[@sean911sc5]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Some time has passed. Scale heli is the current airships. Might go with the DG505 electric setup do I don't have to hunt down a good slope.

[@allenmoore9848]

I was going for the ASH 26 as it has a higher glide ratio. Your first landing on the 505 reminded me of my Pilatus when it done a massive overshoot even with full flaps.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

LOL- yeah, but I'm still not really used to the plane, and I'm being extra cautious since it belongs to Esteban :)

[@allenmoore9848]

When ever I have flown someone else's plane I take a very conservative approach as well!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That's the best way to keep them as a friend :) LOL! I've also crashed Esteban's planes too, but since I help him build and fix them, he's very gracious to me when I do these things.

[@rcjrpilot]

Awesome flying

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks!!

[@helibird7]

Very nice congrats Estaban for a nice bird and Brian for another great video. As soon as my wife and I git home from New Hampshire I will be flying my new dg 505 can't wait 👍

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good luck!!!

[@helibird7]

Brian Phillips thanks

[@joshm4999]

I dare you to buy the new hangar 9 Ash 31! I heard it’s at the greatly economical price of $2,700! Great price! Awesome flights!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

LOL! I saw that, and it totally took the wind out of my sails. Horizon Hobby needs to send me one, so I can review it....but they'll need to send all the ARF stuff too, then I can make it look good, and love it like my 5th child :) LOL

[@joshm4999]

Brian Phillips lol! And don’t forget that new cub to tow it!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Oh, yeah, that cheap thing ;) LOL! I want both, but will end up with neither :(... Maybe you guys need to start petitioning Horizon Hobby, then I will get them to "review"...

[@nikleiser5888]

I used to have asw28 (FlyFly) and sold it because of problems with the quality (twisted tail, wrong angle of incidence and a problem with the mount for the T-Tail)for that reason I like to stay away from FlyFly (if possible). Unless the quality has improved a lot (which is probably not the case). I would love upgrade my fleet to something better (from foamies and the Lanyu ASW28) to compositefuselage and high qualitywings. I still own the Lanyu ASW28 but I still like to step up my game. Which plane would you recommend ? I am located in europe. Cheers Nik

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Nik, there are so many awesome planes that I can't afford, but would love to buy, in composite. My issue is that the quality concerns you mentioned, seem to be "industry standard"...which is lame, but true :( ...that being said, maybe fly fly wouldn't be such a mistake???

[@nikleiser5888]

@@BrianPhillipsRC I did some research and found a Beinecke ASW24 for 249Euro which is a superb price since airbrakes are included and the quality is fantastic. www.beineke-modellbau.de/asw24.htm The wings are styro/balsa and the fuse is made out of epoxy. WE (RCguys)have a bunch of motors/ESC/servos stiiting on the shelf that we can use. Would you mind to test a similar plane, there has to be something similar on the american market, right ?

[@RayKit]

Excellent video! Love them all keep em coming dude! Just a quick question about the e-flite cirrus! Did you find it just wants to climb climb climb? It doesn't want to land. also any mod ideas to stop the rudder/nosewheel servo from breaking on landing, considering my landings are fairly good on grass. They seem so delicate. I replaced it with another servo and hope that it won't break so easily. Thanks Brian.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I haven't had the climbing or rudder/nose gear servo issue, but I don't fly off a grass runway... As for the climbing, are you running with SAFE on?

[@RayKit]

I think it just needed a tweak in the trim setting but i don't fly with safe on at all. I feel competent enough now to use it without. I think these companies should take more care for us grass flyers as the aircraft is susceptible to landing gear bending etc. thanks bud!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

sure thing!

[@sverrewiborg-thune5015]

Hey Brian & Esteban! Again a great video and congratulations to Esteban's 505 build. It looks great. I'm planning to make a winter project with a 505 and have some questions. (this summer I'm testing out my ASW28 with my new DX8G2 and Lemon RX7) First I'm very sorry to read at RC-Groups.com about Grant's total crash after only four flights with his 505. His problem was tip stalling. Do you know if he had any kind of stabilization? I understand that Esteban has put in a AR636A rx in his bird and as the video shows, it flyes fantasticly. But as far as I can see, you can't buy the A-version of the AR636. Do you know how to program a flight mode simular to SAFE mode? Then General Hobby has marked the electrric version of the 505 "Sold Out". At RC-Groups.com someone has linked the 505 to a netshop named "f-Hobby Shop". Do you know anything about this business? And at their site they name "ailerons and spoilers(?)" as features. That has to be a missprint, the model has flaps, not spoilers? That was all this time. By the way, nice new land you're flying in, nearly simular to mine. High grass, landing gear is not necessary. Happy flying! "Sev"

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good idea about the "winter project"...since it does take some time :) He had stabilization, but not sure if he had it working for him enough...it was sad to hear he lost it so quick!!! I don't know how to program SAFE, but I know that Horizon Hobby does allow you to program "HEADING HOLD" into the receivers, which is a lot like "safe select" The electric version is just a RIP OFF, just buy the ARF, they are the same!!! I don't know about f-hobby shop... Thanks for watching! We're glad to have you here!

[@micsherwood4930]

What is the weight of the fiberglass material used to make and repair FlyFly sailplanes?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If we were using fiberglass, I believe Esteban got it at the auto parts store...so not a proper "hobby grade" weighted solution....we just got whatever he had... Sorry I can't answer your question better Mic.

[@mastersteel1079]

Good morning brian,its winer Brian,the king Airplane😁😁😁😁🍺🍺🏆🏆🍺🏆

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thank you Master Steel!!!

[@mastersteel1079]

Brian Phillips 😁😁😁😁🍺🍺

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

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[@woogieman02]

Are you planning on recovering the 505? And what mods did you do with the 505? Considering getting one to work on this summer, but after seeing your posts on Rcgroups I was wondering all the changes you guys did

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I did tons of work on my ASH 26, but the DG 505 is pretty simple :) It does fly very nice now!!! Makes me jealous!

[@woogieman02]

I am planning on grabbing something here soon.... and just don't want to bite off more than I can chew. That and I need to make sure the plane will fit in the car as well lol

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

These things WILL fit in your car, but you might have to take it apart. They are super small when dis-assembled, but I HATE taking them apart, and will jump through hoops to keep them assembled for transportation...

[@dillonjones978]

Hey Brian Great video AGAIN Do you think the erratic behavior from the first video was due to the model design or the inadvertent mis calibration with the rudder. Thanks

[@esteban33ification]

The way I installed the rudder servo required us to criss cross the pull pull cables to get the correct AS3X movements to counteract the effect of the wind. Something I overlooked when I was setting up the rudder servo. The erratic behavior had nothing to do with the design. It was corrected as soon as we criss crossed the servo pull pull cables.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

It was TOTALLY from the rudder being "AS3X" stabilized in the wrong direction, and the other little things we fixed too :) Now she's rock solid, and a dream to fly. I wanted SOOOOOO badly for my ASH26 to fly better.

[@allanpetersen9243]

Hi Brian. A little laid but any chance you could give me the complete setup/esc motor and servo used in Estabans glider? And are pushrod incuded in the plane? I too have an AR636 Sport reciever i can put in the 505. And links to the parts would be nice too;) Thank’s

[@michaelrajca6043]

hi brian and estaban. i like the 505. are you flying it with a safe receiver and if so where is it avaliable. i dont see either plane in your list

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Michael, we used a SAFE receiver from Esteban's dead Conscendo. The DG 505 is available here... www.generalhobby.com/flyfly-dg505-electric-glider-ffb045-p-1328.html

[@michaelrajca6043]

thank you

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sure thing :)

[@michaelrajca6043]

1 more question? i put a safe receiver out of a wrecked timber and put it into a reliant stinson. when i put safe on, it wasnt good. any ideas. im thinkin i didnt reverse the gear switch.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You'll have to make sure the plane will continue to fly in the same orientation. You have to have the Rx about the same spot in the plane, and the EXACT orientation, and the same channels controlling the same surfaces, then you're fine. OR You can buy the AS3X programming cable and reprogram the AR636A to do whatever you want. I never do this, since I don't have the programming cable, BUT Esteban does :)

[@chriswoods8812]

Again awesome brother!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks C Dub!

[@micsherwood4930]

Where specifically did he get his 505 from? I am not having total confidence in dealing with hobby88 at the moment.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If you need specs, don't buy it ;) LOL You won't get them!!! We didn't get much!!!

[@joshm4999]

Is it possible that you will ever get the freewing 64mm jets?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

YES, but it's even more likely, if MotonRC would send them to me for review ;) I will be totally honest with you. We've been so busy with land stuff, that it's been a struggle to be as obsessed with RC aircraft. Keep in mind that a large reason FOR the land, is my RC addiction. We gotta own it before we'll be able to really start enjoying it, and that also means we'll have to go through the crazy busy and stressful period of getting it from a beautiful, naked lot, to an improved lot where we can live. When that's done, I have BIG plans, and can't wait to share it with you guys!!!

[@joshm4999]

Brian Phillips awesome!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks!

[@dillonjones978]

I have the fly fly ASW 28. Also do you feel you could have pulled off a push pull instead of the pull pull with the 505 and why??? Thank you for your consideration..

[@esteban33ification]

I suppose a push pull system would work too but you would need a long rigid push rod to set it up and that would put a little more stress on the servo gears. I didn’t want to add more wait to the tail either and have to deal with the headache of cutting another hole in the vertical stabilizer fiberglass to fit a second servo. I like keeping most of the extra wait closer to the CG.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I think you could have done a push pull just fine, but a pull pull is so dang easy, and keeps weight away from the tail...usually a win-win in a glider ;)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Plus the geometry of exiting the push rod out the tail is a lot harder then you might think. I ran into this with my ASH26, as I started the project wanting to use a push rod, but ended up with a pull pull system (my first of many more)...you know the saying, Keep it simple stupid (KISS)

[@moss3682]

i recently got a dg 505 as well but i was having trouble determining the cg of it and what battery to use any help would be appreciated thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm sorry, but don't know, since the DG505 belongs to Esteban, my friend... Here's a tip. Can you use a lipo that fits well, then just balance the assembled sail plane about 1/3 from the leading edge of the wing? Then when you've got that set, you can just glide it into tall grass? I wish I could give you an easy answer, but keep in mind the CG is usually a bit subjective, especially with sail planes. I like to fly mine fairly nose heavy to begin with, then I can back it off if I'm trying to thermal...which I don't often do, by the way...

[@rcfan85]

wherte can i buy this glider?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

The ASH-26 was a one-of-a-kind arf that I bought off a guy who was a total sail plane enthusiast, and the DG-505 came from a company with very mixed reviews, and I think we shared a link, but at the end of the day, if you want a quality sail plane, they are ARF's and they are a lotta work, but amazing when they're done right!!! Here's something you can get and have a great experience with right out of the box, and if this is not your thing, you'll have to search like crazy to find a fiberglass ARF you like. bprc.me/Conscendo bprc.me/TH_ASW28

[@boofnoof1602]

why do you have NAV lights on a glider, Never in my time of flying full size gliders did i fly at night haha, especially since there isn't any thermals popping at night time. haha

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

So I can see it.

[@boofnoof1602]

Brian Phillips righto mate, well good job on the vid and happy flying brother

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks :)

[@shckltnebay]

Because you can

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Eric, yes!

[@nikleiser5888]

I used to have asw28 (FlyFly) and sold it because of problems with the quality (twisted tail, wrong angle of incidence and a problem with the mount for the T-Tail)for that reason I like to stay away from FlyFly (if possible). Unless the quality has improved a lot (which is probably not the case). I would love upgrade my fleet to something better (from foamies and the Lanyu ASW28) to compositefuselage and high qualitywings. I still own the Lanyu ASW28 but I still like to step up my game. Which plane would you recommend ? I am located in europe. Cheers Nik