Flying Failures - The Pogo Planes

[@macjim]

Stuff of Gerry Anderson, FAB.

[@Lazarus1095]

I can only imagine the sheer, unadulterated dread of the first test pilot to look at that thing and realize he was expected to fly it.

[@heirofaniu]

Test pilots are just built different man.

[@ruypavancardim7512]

You can, just, but the test pilot just doesn't.

[@danielocarey9392]

My dad was a design engineer at Convair. As a boy I met several Convair test pilots. Convair, as I recall, didn't like the idea of VTOL aircraft sitting on their tails. But since the Navy was paying for it, Convair went ahead and designed the Pogo (XFY1). And it was a success in take-offs and transitions to horizontal flight. But landings were difficult and dangerous. Skeets Coleman, the test pilot who flew only one of the 4-prototypes (all the same) told my father he hoped the Navy didn't adopt the idea. All the proposed test flights were completed except for the last one since the transmission that kept the 2 three-bladed propellors powering the craft was starting to greatly wear. But today small flying models of the Pogo often fly at radio controlled model airplane events.

[@DKS225]

This Pogo sounds kind of like Thunderbird 1 out of Thunderbirds.

[@martentrudeau6948]

It seems Kelly Johnson didn't like the Pogo planes design concept, but Hawker Siddeley did figure-out the right way to do V/STOL and build their Jump-Jet.

[@DKS225]

Anyway to you and your family Rory i wish you a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy and safe New Year. And keep it up with these clips as i still find them very interesting to watch as with that last one you made last week got me to look up how a Metronome works afterwards.

[@zanelindsay1267]

Fascinating story of these oddball aviation experiments!

[@inglepropnoosegarm7801]

Excellent content, as always.

[@MrZlodeus]

"Atar Volant" does not mean "flying altar"; it means, quite literally, "flying SNECMA Atar turbojet engine" (ATAR is an acronym for the engine's original designer, Atelier Technique Aeronautique Rickenbach, or Rickenbach Aeronautical Design Office).

[@joebidenthesleepy]

I can imagine a situation that goes something like this: Pilot: WE'RE HIT, WE'RE GOIN DOWN! Plane: *boing*

[@NotExactlyQuiet]

Eagerly anticipate the videos each week, no matter the vehicle type or even place, you always have a great video in store 👍 Keep up the good work, take care and a Merry Christmas to you Ruairidh!

[@connorpearson7513]

Another great video. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you

[@davidjgomm]

I believe that the Fantastic 4 got the Convair design to work in their early days operating out of the Baxter building.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

There was a Pogo plane sitting as a display at the main naval base in Nofolk, VA in the 1970s when I was in the navy. There also was the Martin bomber, "The Truculent Turtle," the first aircraft to fly around the world non-stop but it was taken away at some point. I don't know where it ended up.

[@FlightSimHistorian]

It's currently at the National Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola, Florida.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

@@FlightSimHistorian Thanks- has it been restored to fly?

[@FlightSimHistorian]

@@lawrencelewis2592 Sadly no. Though, it is hanging from the ceiling, so I guess it's kinda 'flying'.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

@@FlightSimHistorian At least it's indoors instead of out in the weather the way it was in Norfolk. There was a 4-engine Japanese flying boat there also, I don't know the type. It was sitting at the naval air station and had what I think was a dehumidifier connected to it. It was taken away by about 1978; I think given back to Japan. It looked a lot like a Boeing 314 but was a lot smaller. Another thing I recall was the R4D that had curtains in the windows, I guess used for flying officers to Washington.

What about the french coleoptre?

[@m.streicher8286]

Step one, click RMV plane video Step two, inform RMV I love his plane videos Step three, watch video

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video...👍

[@Sacto1654]

You forgot that the French actually tried with the SNEMCA _Coléoptère_ , but trying to transition from vertical flight to horizontal proved to be its downfall like the projects mentioned in the video.

[@N330AA]

Surprised you didn't mention the V22 at the end. That's the USN's new COD, but can also deliver to smaller ships.

[@generalsquirrel9548]

Hey, ruairidh macveigh. Im thinking of developing a minecraft mod focused on railways. And then specifically the pre-container days of the railways. However, i have a bad time finding source materials of how goods railways function among others. Can you recommend me some source material?

[@kamel3d]

I want this plane to come back so bad it was ahead of its time and I think the advancements we have now in computers and AI would make it work also it is the closest thing to real eficent EVtall airplane we could get

[@angelacarville3442]

Well done! Cheers!

[@drstevenrey]

And another thing, these contraptions, boarding horizontally then tilting it up and blablabla, all takes longer than just getting a jet in the air conventionally plus having fixed the runway first.

[@TheLesserWeevil]

Your content is fantastic. Please consider changing your channel name. I wanted to recommend your channel to a friend yesterday but couldn't recall the name.

[@jimsvideos7201]

You wonder what modern fly-by-wire technology could do for these.

[@doorhanger9317]

Alternate titles: "The US Navy discovers the worst way to make a helicopter" and "the US Air Force discovers the worst way to make a jump-jet"

[@lenadams854]

Make a video on the MBB Lampyridae

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Ludicrous idea. How do you get in and out?

[@More_Row]

Ladder

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

@More_Row a very tall one 🙃

[@IonorRea]

One must wonder why they even bother trying to put a compact radar altimeter into a small VTOL when they could just integrate it into a dedicated landing pad that would just send through radio signal current VTOL altitude over the dedicated landing pad with additional information on positioning thus allowing to land vertically in all weather conditions without having visual contact with landing destination. They could also put a camera on the landing pad that would transfer real-time image of the VTOL position over the landing pad to a screen inside the VTOL cockpit, all in all, it does not seem that they taken these VTOLs very seriously to take extra effort make them viable with already available means, likely due to proliferation of AA missiles that made convoy defense VTOL fighters redundant technology.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

For VTOL you need a power to weight ratio of at least 1.3 to 1.

[@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter]

Source?

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter in a text book about aircraft design in the library of University of Glasgow which I read as an aerospace engineering undergraduate in the mid-1990s. Sorry, can't remember the title or author after all this time.

[@derrickstorm6976]

@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter imagine having Google to research someone's claim yourself, couldn't be me

[@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter]

​@@neiloflongbeck5705 thanks, I wanted to read more about it, post it here if you find it. A Harrier could do a VTO with about 1.1:1, and I guess modern fighters could technically do a VTO with a bit less armament/fuel.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter what I quoted was for a decent bomb load. It also takes into account re-ingesting hot exhaust gases.

[@fourfortyroadrunner6701]

I wonder, if when "the martians" get here, they will be smart enough to realize, that the junk in our museums are not the successes, mostly, but rather, the failures?

[@chheinrich8486]

Make a Video on the do31 and other 60w vtol aircraft that failed, from america and the soviet union

[@Sacto1654]

Oh, you mean all those early attempts at V/STOL using lift jet engines? Both the Russians and French tried with lift jets at the center of the plane but dropped the idea due to the weight penalty fo lift jets at the time. How they got it to work with the F-35B is quite a feat of engineering.

[@charlesrousseau6837]

Nice video, but please stop gluing individual sentences together into an endless blur of words.

[@johnclapperton8211]

Yes, participles either need a main verb, e.g. "He was running", or may be the verb, but only in a dependent clause: "He was out in a flash, running as quickly as he could".

[@totalrecone]

There were these things called helicopters ....

[@stevie-ray2020]

Not fast enough in horizontal flight!

[@kingofaesthetics9407]

As the other comment pointed out, helicopters wouldn't have been very good at defending a carrier or ship from hostile fixed wing aircraft.

[@derrickstorm6976]

These weren't designed to work like helicopters 🤡

[@drstevenrey]

When it sits there on its tail, I get it. Up will be great. But land? How in the name of God was that ever going to work well. Absolute madness with hindsight. And then we have the bright, not, idea of tilting the seat forward, hence you are now looking at your feet. That must have really helped.

[@johnoneill5661]

Prime example of way too much money and no common sense at all 🙄

[@e28forever30]

You list me at 13:09, computer voice narrative totally boring and stressing at the same time to listen at, despite the good content!