FLYING INTO A SNOWSTORM! American Eagle E170 Trip Report

[@DrMD-1]

I work as maintenance control for envoy. It’s awesome to see the passengers perspective of our planes and your feedback. Keep up the awesome videos, my man!

[@ASAviation]

Thanks so much for the kind works man! And another thank you for all that you at Envoy!

[@ThatOneAviator777]

THIS IS AWESOME! I love the E170-E175. Such a great aircraft.

[@cd273_]

Hey you’re here too!

[@brucecook1156]

I’m pretty sure I flew from those L-Stinger gates in Terminal 3 out of ORD on my way to DCA with American back in January 2022 but I didn’t know it at the time! How cool! Good trip report like always!

[@ck4426]

I really enjoy your detailed trip reports! Thank you so much!!!

[@ASAviation]

My pleasure, I always try to be as detailed but entertaining as possible. Glad you enjoy!

[@davidmaclachlan]

My home airport is YAM on the shore of Lake Superior and frequented by fog and snow squalls. Always tense on those missed approaches. Generally they try twice then it's off to an alternate which usually means back to YYZ. Thanks for sharing!

[@gabystanfield3247]

Wow they have some of my favorite movies Divergent.

[@Dublinplanespotter99]

Wow, very interesting trip report. Great video 😊

[@minecraftwtihclay]

Awesome report! I have flown that airplane three times working for Envoy! Unfortunately I was off of work for that day. Missed the excitement of the storm.

[@TheAviator808]

What a trip report! Nicely detailed and great footage!

[@ricardosam8050]

Awesome well done , thanks for sharing 😊

[@sl123sl]

very nice video...enjoyed.

[@K4Ediamond]

I flew into the L stinger concourse last year. I didn’t know it was a new extension.

[@jasoncassady6286]

Legroom variation like this (in Main Cabin) also extends to the Alaska 737-900ER/MAX 9, with seats on the ABC side behind the exit rows having more legroom than the DEF seats behind row 17

[@dmc2269]

I like the L stinger gates and the connecting walkway at ORD. These are my hide outs on layovers. Usually not crowded.

[@jerryconnors8663]

Good trip report on AA E-170 ORD-HPN. Wanted to check-out your in-cabin evaluation on the cabin seating. Flew an early E-170 United commuter once in 2008 on an ORD-MSY leg. Cabin had 1 - 2 seating. Thanks again and keep them coming! ✈️

[@bhawkpilot4714]

It’s not often a passenger gets to record a go-around/MA. It’s cool to see it as an AVgeek on the comfort of my couch instead of elsewhere when you wanna be on the ground.

[@juarez456]

When a flight is fairly empty on the E170/E175 we tend to be way aft CG that we are supposed to. So gate agents will move people who are in the back forward before boarding to avoid issues with weight and balance when it’s time to close the door. Sometimes they don’t move enough people or don’t move anyone at all so I have to tell the flight attendants to find x amount of passengers in the back and upgrade them to First class to be within limits of CG.

[@ASAviation]

I had a feeling it was in part due to CG! Couldn’t complain about the MCE though.

[@koolkharisma5298]

What does CG mean?

[@juarez456]

@@koolkharisma5298 Center of Gravity.

[@ASAviation]

@@koolkharisma5298 center of gravity

[@RiEbon70]

Subscribed. Very much enjoyed watching this vlog :-)

[@muhammadraza9163]

Amazing

[@user-fq6yu6ys9j]

I be a nervous wreck flying into a snow storm were you nervous ? Something i got to say is that was a wonderful pilot and a marvelous plane cheers jerry

[@TommyG11814]

Great content.

[@Rndmstff737]

I live in chicago, weather during that time and in the past couple of days has been crazy! My friends recently flew to and from ORD and MCI on united’s 737-800 and both their flights were deylayed by 3+hours!

[@ASAviation]

I flew back in on Sunday and it was madness. All international flights were delayed 3-4 hours because of various issues.

[@Rndmstff737]

I would imagine so many issues, needing to de-ice, clear snow, manage ground crew in the cold weather, the regular stresses at ORD airport, poor visibility, and who knows what else@@ASAviation

[@anthonyvallillo422]

I looked at the video and thought “that should be plenty of visibility for an ILS approach”. Then I checked the approach plate and saw that runway 34 has no approach lights, which would account for the difficulty making out the runway in snow like that. Been there!

[@flashboyer4517]

More than likely the main reason you were moved up is to make the center of gravity a little better

[@cd273_]

I’ve went planespotting at Westchester before!

[@r3m_2m]

I don’t why, but for some reason, when the camera is zoomed in on the Embraer E175 flaps, it reminds me of the larger Airbus A321. Is it just me or y’all can relate? 🤔

[@edvaira6891]

Third times the charm!

[@airplanesforlife1260]

Who is my favorite aviation youtuber? Yup. This guy. (0:15)

[@luccacerminaro8003]

I live in Cell Township Pennsylvania. We’re getting snow on Friday.

[@jasonmoors1191]

With 2 go-arounds plus the holding pattern, whatever calculated fuel burn for this flight was, those numbers went out the window! No doubt your aircraft was significantly lighter on touchdown! Noticed how the pilot didn't retract the flaps during his taxi to your jetway--why the term 'stinger' at ORD? Almost implies something electrical! :) $262 OW from BMI to HPN is a bargain and with your go-arounds, definitely got your money's worth!

[@Brandon-dh5rd]

They have an hour of fuel plus fuel to an alternate on board, they have more than enough fuel.

[@Aroo787]

​@@Brandon-dh5rdThere are IFR minimum fuel requirements, and then on top of that part 121 carrier fuel requirements. So yeah they can try for quite a while.

[@bhawkpilot4714]

When icing is encountered and there are visual cues that ice remains (on windshield wipers, etc.), the flaps remain in the landing position so that if there is ice on the flaps it doesn’t damage anything upon retraction. It will require a de-ice prior to departing, unless temps are high enough to melt it off while sitting on the ground. Also, I wouldn’t say the fuel burn “goes out the window.” There are minimum standards applied and also dispatch added fuel for additional holding, ride reports, TAF improvements and lower altitudes. There were fewer people and bags on board so a heavy fuel load is often required. If that plane remains overnight, they need to increase the chances of the kickoff flight in the morning actually happening, affecting fewer flights the next day. Getting the plane there is quite imperative. Those are only a few of a myriad of options.

[@tristanjohnson822]

The reason the flaps remain down is for deicing. If they retract the flaps, then when they get deiced, the fluid won’t be able to reach any ice that was on the flaps. They’ll get deiced with flaps in their landing position, then the pilot will reconfigure for anti icing fluid. I only learned all this once I started doing aircraft deicing

[@burncycle4621]

Had to be something else going on, like approach lighting inop. That visibility didn't look below mins.

[@earor]

I flew out on the 8 th and my flight from dca to ord was delayed by 4 hours!

[@earor]

i got that same email.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

👍🏼😎👍🏼 Hey maybe you should do an airport update on HPN one day 👀

[@ASAviation]

Will definitely try to get some more JetBlues and make it happen!

[@jimmykratochvil2132]

After missed approach 2, I would be thinking, welp, what city are gonna get diverted to!?!

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

Always wondered what it is like going into HPN as a passenger and having to go around multipple times. Back when I was still a night owl I always had the likes of flightradar24 open on my browser, and managed to witness this a number of times with bad weather. Even watched a Breeze E190 take off w/o clearance while planes were going around and (IIRC was it New York appproach handling stuff? It was past 11 PM/the tower was closed for the night) chewed the guy out (which I recorded since I was also listening to HPN traffic on LiveATC.

[@ASAviation]

I was thinking exactly that.

[@loraleepooley3669]

I hate flying.

[@EpicThe112]

Love it and I wonder why to operate this flight this fight White Plains airport having a Beeline bus to the Subway System and then M60sbs to LGA. Which would make the latter feasible on Metrocard/Omny since you paid only $2.90

[@MarkTheLostTraveler]

That was a great video with a lot of info. Did you hand hold your camera looking out the window very steady.

[@ASAviation]

Thanks a lot. I have a suction mount for my GoPro that was sticking to the window on takeoff and landing

[@f3nd13y]

interesting they went to the gate with their flaps still down. Pretty sure flaps up is in the flow for the after landing checklist

[@ASAviation]

It’s due to the weather. Usually the flaps are kept down in freezing conditions.

[@f3nd13y]

flew the 175 and we always had them up , especially for freezing conditions @@ASAviation

[@Ridejumpfly]

@@f3nd13yI flew the 145 for MQ. We wouldn’t retract after landing on contaminated runways in order to keep them from freezing up the jack screws after sitting at the gate. This way “ice man” could spray the affected area. In the past the flaps have failed in the up position due to the refrozen liquid.

[@Perich29]

So far I'm concern, the E 175, the Airbus A319 and the A220 they do well with small narrow body planes, I'm never flying on the Boeing 737 MAX.

[@LB-ty6ks]

At last report they were still in a holding pattern.

[@johnp139]

The flaps were still down as the aircraft was approaching the gate. I thought that this was an indication of a hijacking.

[@anthonyvallillo422]

Not since 9-11

[@fadd6895]

Your uploads are very interesting ( Love from from Israel ) .

[@JustinPinedaMedia]

I hate O'Hare's L gates with a passion! They are like O'Hare's equivalent of Midway's A4A and A4B.

[@paulcheek5711]

better late than dead

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

HPN is a nice airport don't get me started on the BS politics surrounding it though (9like how the neighbors seem to fixate on the commercial traffic when anything relating to noise pops up, ignoring all the corporate, private traffic that flaunt the curfew ((something they''d know if they bothered to watch or track air traffic overnight!)).

[@norbertocalderon2364]

Well the passengers should be scared if Maria Patterson is flying with her mental problems bi polar

[@kevingreen5793]

Wow not one but two go arounds because of poor visibility. I thought these planes were supposed to have an instrument landing system so the plane can land itself? I guess the E170/E175s don't have that?

[@LoneWolfSparty]

There's certain requirements that have to be met in order to be able to use that system if it's equipped that way.

[@kevingreen5793]

@@LoneWolfSparty oh ok gotcha.