Flying Iron Simulations - Messerschmitt BF109G-6 - First Look Review! - MSFS

Flying Iron drops its latest iconic aircraft, the BF 109G-6. Let's take a look at the Spitfire's classic opponent!
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[@jocking3b510]

That "little chateau" is the Neuschwanstein castle, which the Disney castle is based on. :)

[@AvAngel]

Oh cool! didn't know that one.

[@thecircusfreak5364]

The ‘G’ is the Gustov. Golf just does the bird dirty ;)

[@GrafZorn1337]

Gustav, its not russian 😊

[@bryantbridgewaters7177]

I actually like how she referred to it as the "Golf". Really threw me off.

[@wilderkaiserland]

Golf in modern aviation alphabet or Gustav in German sprache… could be?

[@aquahunter5003]

Exactly... Gustav is the german alphabet acronym for the letter G, whereas Golf is the Nato/international acronym. Also compare D (Dora, Delta), E (Emil, Echo) and F (Friedrich, Foxtrott) for example

[@alexej1384]

thank you for review. one thing though. The B-109 G-6 was already a deep modernized variant and came in service about 1943. It was already very different to the first variants from late 30ties. Another engine with a lot more power. Another weapons. Different fuselage and modified wings. It was basically a new airframe compaired to the first vairants of 109. So I think it would not be quite correct to say that she flew in the spanish civil war. That was the first variants which were significantly different to the later variants like G-6.

[@manic_miner]

Great take-off AvAngel, I'm impressed! Have fun in the angry tractor :)

[@Frankestein01nl]

So happy to see this in the sim. Once at the Goodwood Revival, there was a 109 i was looking forwards to, unbeknown to me it was a buchon...(with a merlin engine) and as soon as it started, i turned my back to it... my friend was stumped as he loved my enthousiasm in being able to see a 109. That tractor engine you mentioned, was actually what i was VERY looking/hearing forwards to upon seeing my first (proper) 109... i actually hadn't seen the plane before, the cowling wouldhave given it away. Thanks for the schweet review!

[@SparkySven]

Great job taking off and landing this beast. I still have great difficulties doing it safe and without failing landing gears. I need to practice a lot. The spit is childplay in comparison

[@outdoorsdelmarva5691]

I was very lucky to speak with a luftwaf pilot years ago..all his flights were Bf and Me 109's..as we were talking about landing approaches, his trick was to always slip in...kick it hard right at grass high...

[@Foxtrot_EW]

On your tablet, on very last page in the settings, Very last item at the bottom right hand side of the page is your aleron trim. It's set for 20° right and that's why it pulls to the right. If you just set it to 0, it will fly straight as an arrow.

[@marwinsteiner5817]

A beautiful rendition of a wonderful machine.

[@facethefaceandmore44]

The label above the windshield fuel valve says "Windshield Cleaner" so I guess it sprayed fuel over the window to clean it.

[@travistomcat9535]

“She wants to turn left like Bernie Sanders if he was an airplane” had me dead lol

[@4secsharkmr352]

Good video. Thx a lot. You flew right at the border to Austria. The castle is Schloß Neuschwanstein and you landed at Füssen airfield. The lakes called Forgensee and Schwanensee. Thank you and take care.

[@AvAngel]

Thanks for the info!

[@rodneylackey9726]

And you did a great job! Many thanks for your input!

[@christopherbrown5924]

That "little chateau" Appeared In 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang'. = )

[@dillank3240]

I can't wait! Thanks for the enjoyable review!

[@urszemp4539]

Germany, summer 1940. Luftmarshall Goering asked his top fighter pilots, what they would need to finish the RAF for good. "A Spitfire would help", was the answer of a bold Messerschmitt 109 pilot. By the way, this was a heck of a smooth landing in that byrd, AvAngel - well done PS. Your German Is nearly perfekt, sehr gut. Thx for the video.

[@andreasschmidt2540]

It was in the time of the Bf 109E...

[@4secsharkmr352]

Right, the BF 109 Emil was fast but worse terms of turn radius and very limited range. All BF 109 suffered with the turn radius. The F model was aerodynamically the best. It doesn't have the big bumps on the cowlings. The weapons were different. German 109 tactics were always boom and zoom. A Spitfire could easily out turn them. And the Griffon Spit could out climb them too. I like both planes. But my favourite is definitely the Spitfire. That is a true beauty. 😁

[@Jlord42069]

"Cant Help but turn to the left" Which is ironic considering who built it😂

[@AvAngel]

Quite Well... they were The National Socialist party... :S

[@beech18]

Wow, you did a really great job of handling that one... superb madame...

[@julianhall2008]

Takes a little getting use to , very rewarding.

[@intelceleron44]

The Bernie Sanders joke made me laugh :)

[@NoticalMyles]

Looking forward to getting this! Thanks, AvAngel!

[@deckape714]

Well done on the Takeoff It's great fun to fly

[@Blueesteel_]

Loveee the BF109!

[@brianmallon5603]

I've been waiting for an ME109 and I'm not disappointed. Going t o take a while to calm this beast. Lots of practice ahead.

[@belgeode]

Bought it, have not flown it yet. I am here to watch and learn from you. 🧐

[@MilitaryVehicleReviews]

Great review as always! Do you get more features purchasing directly from Developer vs MSFS store?

[@zeberdee1972]

Amazing flying , such a gentle landing ....some thing im yet to achieve lol . I really like this one and I think there could be hours of fun and a few broken aircraft , Great review as always thank you .

[@yamahaguy1732]

I’m weird I can land a large aircraft like butter also the dc-3 that’s kinda hit and miss but little general aviation aircraft and especially tail draggers I struggle with.

[@aussiecaptsarcasm9100]

Lovely review as per usual AV but it didnt put me off my fav ww2 bird the Spitty thanks mate!!

[@andysvehiclehistorychannel]

One in 20 were written off in landing accidents during the war

[@joergbock1976]

Hi AvAngel, great channel and videos! I love that you cover wonky and fun airplanes too (can't wait for the Doubleender to hit the Market Place today). May I ask which rudder pedals you use (or the whole setup when you're at it ;) ). While I find taking off with the BF109G rather easy (although they went a bit too far with the torgue effect) and landing difficult on short runways (the gear is rather bouncy as in RL), the real challenge to me is taxiing. It's a Royal P in the A, using breaks on a button :D

[@kimvibk9242]

While Golf is the phonetic for the letter 'G', this was a convention developed by the allies. The model name 'G' in this instance has the phonetic Gustav.

[@funnierwater]

Flyinng iron is the best imo

[@rolanddutton]

Awesome preview of this little beast. I like the late models - covered in lumps and bumps with all the aerodynamic finesse engineered out - just a brute of a plane and it sounds like FI nailed it. I think the G-6 had the dual injection system (MW-50, GM-1). Anyone know if water/methanol and nitrous is simulated? The mechanical engine controller too? That'd be cool.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Yes it is simulated. It gives you 1.8 ata and round about 375 HP more.

[@mulebaron]

youre the best!!!!! love you and your channel

[@SolidBlueBlocks]

Which region did you fly in? Was it the Schloss Neuschwanstein?

[@stephensmith1118]

Oh lummey our honey is a hun... looks like a way of understanding history as well as experiencing a aircraft from way back... Reminds me of the two German builders who said ' let's leave a ditch ' have fun

[@cornell3206]

Well done good flying

[@nicknicholson1268]

Thank you for this epic flight Rachel! On a similar note with those jokes, I remember vaguely what an important European historian once said, watching with a friend a parade of hitler jungend: "you see these green tomatoes marching today, my friend? All will ripen soon and turn red!" 😂

[@redbaronmodeling]

sadly this "joke" was all too true.

[@nicknicholson1268]

@@redbaronmodeling Yep Red Baron, totally agree! I was on the wrong side of the Wall for a while, behind the Iron Curtain. Nobody can take those memories from you.

[@manic1173]

Nice landing

[@andygm525]

The DCS version is also very good. I use msfs2020 and DCS world

[@airsheep]

Yep, fm is very similar to DCS, but IL2 seems very simple comparing these.

[@b6s4shelter]

windshield fuel valve is basic de-icing with fuel! not risk there whatsoever!

[@wilga80]

Welll done!

[@davewatson2124]

Would have been nice if you had taken the time to show where the flaps and undercarriage levers were.

[@AvAngel]

Don’t most of us use controls for that or buttons? Plus there is an extensive manual, I can’t hit everything in a first look.

[@davewatson2124]

@@AvAngel It would have taken 10 seconds to show that. What a pathetic excuse.

[@johnhepworth9427]

Great vid .. you have skills ! Which aeredrome as looks like a good glider location ..did you have any add on scenery ?

[@AvAngel]

I do and its a glider field, Rassen?

[@andreasschmidt2540]

By the way, the castle was Neuschwanstein. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4izlH-uhrFmmKM

[@animaltvi9515]

Looks very nice, the 109G Gustav. Is it a pc only mod ?

[@AvAngel]

For now I expect.

[@WinstonSmith1997]

This is great! Could I request a tutorial on the JU-87 Stuka?

[@maity787]

Could you make a video with your settings for flight sim 2020 it just looks very good

[@julianneale6128]

The speeds you mentioned are actually statute mph, not knots.

[@AvAngel]

I was reading the knots values specifically when I gave top and cruise, in aircraft was km/h

[@smsheard]

Its illegal in Germany to show a swatika symbol, so they would loose quite some income from that.

[@jannikmatthias9289]

It's not if it's historically relevant. It's a more recent law. Many newer games such as Sniper Elite therefore show the Swastika.

[@smsheard]

@@jannikmatthias9289 Symbols known to fall under the law are: the swastika as a symbol of the Nazi Party, prohibited in all variants, including mirrored, inverted etc. (exceptions are only applied to swastikas used as religious symbols in Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain temples)

[@AvAngel]

German law differs to most of the world

[@smsheard]

@@AvAngel Yep this is true. I heard they had a slight problem with some symbols around the 30s and 40s.

[@jannikmatthias9289]

@@smsheard They're not generally prohibited if shown in a historically right and relevant context mainly for educational purposes. For example: A SS uniform or a restored German tank or aeroplane displayed in a museum or games that show a relative accurate representation of Germany or German occupied territories during World War 2. I'm German, I know the law.

[@mikecoffee100]

das ist gut YAJ

[@scottparis6355]

Wonder if a 109F would be more pleasant. And not trying so hard to kill you.

[@randyorton6198]

My plane seem to turn to the left for some reason when I try to taxi or take off

[@krookeddreamz09]

You need to hold the stick full back and right and full right rudder it isnt a easy beast.

[@rejiix]

This is the one I've been waiting for. Just, how hard is it to fly with zero tailwheel, and very high performance experience?

[@rejiix]

Also appreciate that your review is always first on the page, good stuff!

[@KomradeDoge]

With zero experience? You may struggle a bit starting out, the 109 is unforgiving at best, and absolutely like a wild bull at worse. It is doable, and feels great when everything clicks, so sticking with it is definitely worth it. I fly the K-4 model in DCS, so a few key differences here, both in the exact plane itself and simulator it's modeled it, but based off this little preview it seems like the ground handling is relatively similar. That's the main difficult part, getting off the ground. It has several quirks that if you don't train out quickly could ruin your fun in the aircraft.

[@soviet_salsa2983]

after downloading and redownloading the aircraft, the EFB is not usable. the checklist screen shows up but the tablet screen is not interactable?

[@AvAngel]

Hm, not sure, that seems like a bug, i don't get the issue myself.

[@soviet_salsa2983]

@@AvAngel i guess I'll touch up on my German while i fly it then

[@stevejones924]

A...if you slam it down will it bounce or break the landing gear?😊

[@AvAngel]

Yes it will

[@donaldholman9070]

It brought death and destruction to so many….

[@larrymoore2571]

I'm not sure of the exterior graphics. I cannot figure out what it is exactly, but the model's exterior seems cartoonish.

[@AvAngel]

It’s accurate and well detailed, this is how later war models looked

[@jocking3]

What's with the "no guns on marketplace"? It's not even on the marketplace. :/

[@AvAngel]

Asobo's desire not to have this be a combat sim or combat related to it... an ethos thing. And it will be on marketplace.

[@redbaronmodeling]

@@AvAngel so they don’t like them even modeled? I thought they were mainly against them being usable.

[@jocking3]

@@AvAngel ... and yet they still have the face to call it a "simulator". A simulator would have not just visual, but actually working weapons. From now on it shall be called Microsoft Flight Game 2020.

[@CyborgHunter-T800]

bf-109 is this a mod ?

[@AvAngel]

That's why its a review :D

[@normg2242]

If Karl Marx were an airplane ... brilliant... and funny ... 😂😂😂

[@flutter8712]

"Bf 109 Gulf 6" yeah right

[@AvAngel]

Gustav

[@Antares2]

She used modern english phonetic alphabet instead of german phonetics... big deal... You're probably one of those that freak out if people say ME-109 as well, aren't you? (even though the germans themselves also used ME-109 and BF-109 interchangably)

[@flutter8712]

@@Antares2 no

[@MichielFollon-iw9yk]

Landing is like blind

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd]

i really dont like the Warbirds in MSFS because the very wrong Flightmodel and Ground Handling. I think the BF109 in DCS is more like the original. Read a few Books from BF109 Pilots and the Ground Handling at Taxi and Takeoff was so difficult that a lot of new Pilots died during Training. Because of the very narrow Landing Gear and shear Power of the DB605 Engine you have to "dance" alot on the Pedals to keep the Plane straight. This is very accurate modeled in the DCS Bf109. I needed a few hours and good rudder Pedals to get that thing in the Air. Now with a motion Rig its a bit easier because you feel first what the plane is doing and than see it. Its realy a shame that they advertise this Plane as well simulated Model wich it isnt in my opinion. MSFS should be cabable of simulating especially the ground Handling correct. Maybe with a slider for easy ground Behaving like its also in DCS. But normaly your Takeoff wouldnt be so smooth . I like your Videos everytime but i dont like the Warbirds in MSFS.

[@AvAngel]

I don’t think because I did ok means it’s easy, I flew her a couple of times to get the feel before recording and this is nothing like stock asobo. It IS evil on the ground and does want to kill you, I’m just a “feel” pilot and adapt quickly . Try this before criticising, it’s one of the hardest I’ve tried in the sim

[@captaincasual7239]

"This airplane goes left so hard, it's like Bernie Sanders or Karl Marx!" - Avangel, flying me mainstay fighterplane of the third reich. I couldn't help but point out the extreme magnitude of irony, there. :p Also, warbirds aren't really my thing, but i seem to recall that the 109 had all sorts of advanced automation with the radiators, mixture and stuff like that, so i dunno, i think you could've done fine flying her with engine realism. How hard can it be? /Clarkson Now, i've said a few buzzwords up there, so let's hope a bunch of deranged "political thinkers" don't turn up to start the kind of ideological posturing they like to refer to as "online debate™". Please take the hint and stop planning to write that comment. Yes, you. You know who you are. This is funny airplane channel. Tell us how much you want the SWS PC-12 instead or something. :p

[@KomradeDoge]

Yes, the 109 had a automatic prop pitch adjustment that tried to keep the engine at 2700 rpm no matter the AtA setting iirc. It could be overridden by the pilot and operated in manual mode if desired, irl there's a rocker switch the pilot can adjust on the throttle. You can see the readout for the system just to the right of the rpm gauge. That being said, you absolutely can kill the engine, even with the auto mode of the engine settings and auto radiator mode. I fly the K-4 in DCS and can't tell you how many times I've accidentally forgotten to power back or swap the auto rpm system on (you take off in manual mode on a specific setting to assist with the difficult takeoff) and have seen a prop dead still in my face. To that point, with the takeoff power settings here in this video, I'm surprised it didn't wiggle around more. She'll get into the air at 1.3 AtA, and to be honest at least in the K-4 I'm scared to try to push it above that just because of how much torque that massive engine spits out. Lol

[@KAPAFlyer]

Well, "can't help but turn Left" is ironic considering it's a Nazi plane.

[@AvAngel]

I mean... National Socialists... :D

[@markusnachname1619]

Why would I spend money on a dying sim?

[@AvAngel]

A, its not dying, B, this like all stuff will work in 2024 the same way... so its... literally the same.

[@redbaronmodeling]

We know practically nothing about 2024 right now and they have said most mods will transfer. It also sounds like a kill switch won’t be flipped once 2024 comes out. I and many others will continue to enjoy 2020.

[@AvAngel]

It will continue and be supported from what they said, and the most mods will transfer part basically means that its all the same aircraft core systems, the 'some might not' is if developers don't want to clause, I'll put heavy money that any aircraft you get now will work the same in 2024.

[@LHZX14]

I have this plane in DCS but have not picked it up yet in MSFS. I love it in DCS but it's a bit tricky on takeoff. I will most likely grab it in MSFS as well so thansk for the review. In DCS there are a ton of liveries with or without swastikas.

[@AvAngel]

Oh it's evil in here too :D but once you work it out its managable.

[@buikhan]

Many young German pilots died in their initial training of this aircraft.

[@AvAngel]

Indeed