Flying the Grumman F6F Fighter: Meet the Hellcat (1943)

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@steveb6103
@steveb6103 6 жыл бұрын
My dad had 3. First was hit by ground fire but made it back to the Essex to badly damaged to be repaired and was pushed overboard. 2nd also hit by ground fire. Had to ditch. 3rd he finished the war with. US Navy 1941-1946 . 7 confirmed kills.
@jeffberg756
@jeffberg756 4 жыл бұрын
666MikeRochip has
@otterspocket2826
@otterspocket2826 2 жыл бұрын
@typo pit - That would probably explain why there was no German 'ace in a day'.
@karstenerdinger2167
@karstenerdinger2167 2 жыл бұрын
@@otterspocket2826 Hans-Joachim Marseille had 17 kills in a day on 3 sorties on Sept 1, 1942
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@karstenerdinger2167There is considerable doubt about that now. Virtually the only reference for this claim is Toliver and Constable. Pretty much every other reference sources from them. The RAF records don’t support that many losses for that day.
@IncogNito-gg6uh
@IncogNito-gg6uh 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@thethirdman225In “A Higher Call” Franz Stigler mentions there was doubt among Marseille’s squadron mates, too. So, did Marseille actually make the claim and Toliver and Constable repeat it, or did they create the claim, which would put Stigler’s comment in doubt?
@myksanchez1222
@myksanchez1222 9 жыл бұрын
Cool video, experiencing the operational practices of this dream machine. Now all I need is my own Hellcat to fly!
@petesampson4273
@petesampson4273 7 жыл бұрын
Here's a funny Hellcat story. Dad started me building model planes when I was 5-6. Most were 1:48 scale WW2 fighters but my first Hellcat was 1:72 scale. Naturally, I assumed that the Hellcat was much smaller than a Spit or a P-51. Well, the first time I saw a real Hellcat, I was shocked. My 7-8 year old mind just couldn't believe that the tiny model I had built was actually the same plane as the huge monster in front of me. It took a good deal to convince me that the Hellcat wasn't a model built at a 2:1 scale or that the tiny P-51 and Spitfires were sub scale models. Cheers!
@AirGuitar
@AirGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
Haha that IS funny! Good story.
@bumblebob5979
@bumblebob5979 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story! This is why its easy to love the F6F Hellcat. The Hero of the Pacific, the Helpcat! :D
@karenaudreytodd
@karenaudreytodd 9 жыл бұрын
An incredibly well thought out design, safe, reliable, stable and very forgiving. The landing/stall speeds are comparable to a Cessna 172, just an amazing job by Grumman :)
@gregorio3139
@gregorio3139 3 жыл бұрын
NOTHING like the sound of a Hellcat engine! Want to go se one at an air show again!
@markrobinson1135
@markrobinson1135 3 жыл бұрын
So if you don't have an extra shotgun shell, if you are forced to land on some desert island you'll never get off the ground again
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@markrobinson1135Not a problem unique to the Hellcat.
@PelvicBust
@PelvicBust 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a navel fighter pilot south pacific WW2. He flew the hellcat. Said everything they taught you, throw it out the window. The plane would do much more. It was his favorite plane. His last squadron was VF93
@deborahmitchell8460
@deborahmitchell8460 11 ай бұрын
My dad too.
@Broncofivepointslow
@Broncofivepointslow 12 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely awesome to watch, thank you for uploading this.
@ZenosWarbirds
@ZenosWarbirds 7 жыл бұрын
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@stevegacek4142
@stevegacek4142 6 жыл бұрын
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@deborahmitchell8460
@deborahmitchell8460 11 ай бұрын
My dad was on the Wake Island during WWII. My dad was a fighter pilot who flew a Hellcat. He did earn the Distinguished Flying Cross. Dad was hit, landed on a different carrier, and was waved off until the blood pouring from his face was noticed. Whew!
@ZenosWarbirds
@ZenosWarbirds 11 ай бұрын
Truth is stranger than fiction. Props to your Dad! Amazing times.👍
@LkOutMtnMan
@LkOutMtnMan 3 жыл бұрын
Dad was a crew chief over 5 F6F's on the Kalinin Bay Escort Carrier . One day on land he was checking the mags and the plane jumped the chocks , took off down the runway. He almost had to fly it. lol
@SiliconSet
@SiliconSet 6 жыл бұрын
At 04:34 the tacho still reads 800 RPM while the narration calls it 1800 RPM. (The window pointer identifies the bottom of the one.) 04:50 shows the real 1800 RPM reading because the window pointer now aims at the base of 2 ),
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing how docile the stalls are!
@xxskippernate409xx6
@xxskippernate409xx6 10 ай бұрын
Since I found this video, I can't stop watching the stalls
@sohomesick1
@sohomesick1 3 жыл бұрын
Did they ever use the paddle blade prop that was developed for the P47. Since both the F6 and the F4 used the same engine as the P47. I remember that it made a big difference on the P47.
@noslack1964
@noslack1964 10 жыл бұрын
@ Gary Mathews, 380mph. it was powered by a Pratt & Whitney R-2800 which developed 2,000 hp
@miguel4307
@miguel4307 8 жыл бұрын
2000 to 2800 hp what a engine
@IncogNito-gg6uh
@IncogNito-gg6uh 4 ай бұрын
I’d love to see an interview with a former Hellcat, Corsair, or Thunderbolt pilot talking about how complicated was engine management in combat. I suppose they had to constantly go in and out of blower with changes in altitude or did they just throw everything forward and go?
@artjinks2935
@artjinks2935 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother built Hellcats during WW2.
@andystoybox1723
@andystoybox1723 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos !
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 9 жыл бұрын
Hellcat, corsair, thunderbolt had the same engine and they had body strength that could take alot of fire.. all were bad ass planes .hellcats were responable for 75% of enemy aircraft destroyed in the air in the pacific theatre hellcats were the least modified fighter plane of the war //Excellent Plane *************
@crosstimbers2
@crosstimbers2 9 жыл бұрын
james marshall Sort of . The P-47 had a turbosupercharger and a mechanical super charger. The Hellcat and Corsair only had mechanical superchargers. I think all 3 had water and methanol injection for War Emergency Power.
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 9 жыл бұрын
yah i read that also! thunder bolt had some cool stuff on the engine the plane had one hell of a maximum payload
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 9 жыл бұрын
crosstimbers2 the thunderbolt was the heaviest fighter plane ever built ..with a piston engine
@crosstimbers2
@crosstimbers2 9 жыл бұрын
james marshall I think you have to qualify that with single engine. Technically the P-61 was a night fighter.
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 9 жыл бұрын
crosstimbers2 yah i knew uuu were gonna mention somthin about that ..Thats right single engine baddass mofo it is .couldnt shoot it down it was built to stay in the air..Now. the hellcats protected my dad in the south P he was on a munition ship..
@ZerokillerOppel1
@ZerokillerOppel1 12 жыл бұрын
I´ve bought several of your dvd´s in the past and they are indeed awesome.
@16rumpole
@16rumpole 11 жыл бұрын
apparently the guys that flew this plane felt like it was an easy and forgiving plane to fly; unlike the corsair
@wrigleyx
@wrigleyx 9 жыл бұрын
c'est génial !! super intéressant ! et vers 10:40 au dessus des nuages !
@progx8679
@progx8679 8 жыл бұрын
My God you sure were kept busy with all those control changes flying these WWll fighters !!! How do you remember it all ?
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 7 жыл бұрын
Months of ground school and flight training.
@peterjames9610
@peterjames9610 3 жыл бұрын
Great film
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
A rugged well built aircraft. It has self sealing gas tanks, and an armored cockpit, to help protect the pilot.
@noslack1964
@noslack1964 11 жыл бұрын
now boys & girls, remember all that shit while you're being chased and shot at by 3 zeros
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 11 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah, WW2 fighters were definitely about as complex as piston engine airplanes could get.
@kevinchappell3694
@kevinchappell3694 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video , thanks
@glengerdes2447
@glengerdes2447 5 жыл бұрын
How about doing some more? P-38.P-51. F4u.
@hugbug4408
@hugbug4408 3 жыл бұрын
The Hellcat would of done good in europe too! Produced in great numbers and been recorded @ top speed of 405 mph, it would of given fits to the Luftwaffe too! It was the Navies version of the Thinderbolt, and made alot of aces in the PTO!
@lol-un6nl
@lol-un6nl 3 ай бұрын
I always thought the corsair was the navy version of the thunderbolt
@surearrow
@surearrow 9 жыл бұрын
>>-----------------> "...bring manifold pressure down to 42.376 during all 23.658 degree left turns that have no greater than a 22.098 degree downward pitch - if you're above 11,223 feet. Make sure to open blowers to 32.763 percent when doing so, except on quarter moon phases - or if it's on a first Tuesday of the month."
@Loiyaboy
@Loiyaboy 9 жыл бұрын
surearrow That's funny right there....
@therealxunil2
@therealxunil2 9 жыл бұрын
surearrow That is funny, but that's really how you had to deal with these things. So much manifold pressure, so many RPMs, so many degrees of cylinder head temp, etc. etc.
@yahatinda
@yahatinda 8 жыл бұрын
AND BEWARE OF LO BLOOD PRESSURE.
@edwardmyers8782
@edwardmyers8782 7 жыл бұрын
surearrow yea but it is so simple to fly
@edwardmyers8782
@edwardmyers8782 7 жыл бұрын
surearrow on a more serious note the fuel mixture and manifold pressure was extremely important in fact Charles Lindbergh showed the pilots of he p38 lighting his to almost double their range by a simple adjustment of manifold pressure vs mixture
@fasttruckman
@fasttruckman Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine trying to remember all this stuff while trying not to get shot down and or while you are trying to shoot down the other plane.
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he would have his hands full, but this looks as if it's a flight test.
@tomservo5347
@tomservo5347 9 жыл бұрын
So when enemy was sighted and the attack about to begin, did the pilot pre-set throttle, blower, pitch or did he have to constantly adjust them when dogfighting?
@jayphilipwilliams
@jayphilipwilliams 9 жыл бұрын
+James Robert There's no doubt in my mind that he'd have to adjust throttle. You would want plenty of power in a climb or sharp turn, but wouldn't want to over speed in a dive. Not sure what else he'd have to fiddle with, though. Obviously, he'd be very busy while fighting!
@MrLikeke
@MrLikeke 7 жыл бұрын
Energy management is key. Engine management would aid in that. Especially if that pilot wanted to return to base and not grenade the engine.
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 10 жыл бұрын
Range,climb rate,ceiling,speed,moneuverability,armament,carrier savvy. Credited for over 5,000 enemy planes destroyed The Hellcat was among the top seven weapons of WW II
@sasquatche69
@sasquatche69 9 жыл бұрын
keep them coming I'm a big fan..any more b25 f4u films
@balham456
@balham456 3 жыл бұрын
We watched a restored Hellcat in the air at Duxford: the rate of climb was impressive.
@港-e6r
@港-e6r 3 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@TenementFunster.74
@TenementFunster.74 8 жыл бұрын
there was a lot to remember at the take off.
@troy2478
@troy2478 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine trying to remember all those adjustments needed while in combat.
@guarddog318
@guarddog318 3 жыл бұрын
They'd be drilled into you until you didn't have to remember them; they'd be automatic and second nature.
@dustyflair
@dustyflair 2 жыл бұрын
yea they trained and trained and trained. These dudes were MEN too, not todays 3D printer dudes.
@yz450223
@yz450223 9 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when pilots were not aerospace engineers but still seat of the pants type vfr pilots more like fighting race car drivers what a great era of flight
@IonoTheFanatics
@IonoTheFanatics 9 жыл бұрын
yz450223 Technically, the requirement of pilots of that age was even greater because while the equipments are not as complex as today.... they were mostly manual... today's aircraft by comparison are heavily automated in most of the mundane operations (and in the case of civilian aircraft, they are automated to such degree the aircraft literally can fly with preprogrammed flight plan with minimal pilot input. in comparison, the pilots in WW2 era and up to early cold war were essentially very much a stick and rudder pilots who had to be able to feel their aircraft and know it inside out to fly it to it's best capability... and heck, for some aircrafts... you had to be familiar with the aircraft's quirks to even survive flying them.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
They flew using what was called radio navigation (as opposed to what we'd now call IFR). Carrier ops required it because there aint no land marks at sea. They used ADF/NDB. The range of NDB is good at sea - typically 90-120NM (or more). Downside is it transmits on the AM band so any lightning and the ADF points directly at the thunderstorm rather than the transmitter. This is a problem - a really big problem as it sends you off course as well as into a thunderstorm to boot. No plane can withstand the forces of a thunderstorm. The wind goes up at 6000ft/min or more and down at a similar speed in close proximity creating shearing that tears planes to pieces. The hail is often huge as it goes up and down in the wind getting a coat of ice from supercooled water each time until its too heavy for the wind to hold it in the cloud and it falls to earth melting on the way down. The lightning inside is more violent than what we see when it hits the ground. The top of the thunderstorm is often above 35000ft in the tropics. No, you don't want to fly into a thunderstorm or be downwind of a thunderstorm. There are many rules in aviation to avoid them right down amount of fuel required for holding if they are forcast to upwind and down wind passing distances.
@hugbug4408
@hugbug4408 3 жыл бұрын
Very similar to the p47 republic aircooled radial engine that was recorded to hit 400 mph. Used mostly in PTO,it was a workhorse and almost indestructible with 50 cal.s 3 on each wing. It was the U.S.Navys' equivalent to to the Pratt an Whitney's P-47 Republic used in the ETO mostly. The Corsair and p-38s were commonly used in the pacific. The Japanese Mitsubishi Zero was by 1943 becoming obsolete. Allied planes with the Hell Cat, P-38, P-51, Corsair, P-47 and the Britians Super -Marine Spitfire made the Zero outdated and easier target for allied fighter/Fighter- Bomber Planes. To me, the Hell -Cat was an more updated and modified Navys' Wildcat of earlier years, which the Wildcat itself was a formidable plane; 50 cal.machine guns : 3 on each wing and good on incline and, also, on decline but not as good on turns and maybe 340-in speed as to Japanese Zerooes 360-390 in speed. But, the allies, and evan the nazis were ever modifying their.aircraft.
@hayabusa27
@hayabusa27 3 жыл бұрын
Dang this thing is more complex than a cessna or piper 😜
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 9 жыл бұрын
Ok...the temp gauges are in centigrade, but the manifold pressure is in inches, and altitude in feet, and airspeed in knots. What???
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын
+leftcoaster67 Americans are smart enough to use multiple systems at the same time, but the rest of the world is so stupid that they can only handle one... 'MURICA!!! :P
@MrJeffro1968
@MrJeffro1968 7 жыл бұрын
RonJohn63 well I'm an Aussie & even though I'm only 50 I can still work stuff out in miles Klms inches & cms, even distance in Yards metres & Chains & rain in inches & cms & points! "Straya"!!
@gisliofeigsson3408
@gisliofeigsson3408 6 жыл бұрын
Who, in his right mind, would measure temperature in anything but Centigrade.
@vincentlefebvre9255
@vincentlefebvre9255 6 жыл бұрын
RonJohn63 There is life outside the U.S.A . I'm canadian and familiar with both systems . I'm 51 by the way .
@trythinking6676
@trythinking6676 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincentlefebvre9255 54 here. They say us Americans don't know metric.....when I have a 9mm and 5 grams on me. :)
@tmmartin50
@tmmartin50 3 жыл бұрын
Those were Corsairs at the beginning of the video.
@jeffmiller1159
@jeffmiller1159 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many if these procedures were practiced when you were scrambled because you had bandits coming in...
@dirttdude
@dirttdude 3 жыл бұрын
i want to know how they adjusted boost and turned the blower on and off
@Mr.McWatson
@Mr.McWatson 10 жыл бұрын
What a beefy airplane!
@martintaper7997
@martintaper7997 3 жыл бұрын
Needed to be beefy to fit more in the ship, the beef carrier.
@pauka13
@pauka13 3 жыл бұрын
If I'd have to pick only one plane to go into fight with, that would be the Hellcat for sure! Not exceptionally fast, doesn't do crazy aerobatics, but it is hell of a warmachine with very well balanced charactreistics and strong armament.
@KB9813
@KB9813 11 жыл бұрын
very nice video do you have a video on the F4U???
@paratrooper7340
@paratrooper7340 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a picture of a F6F with a 4 blade prop, anyone know if one was ever used on this fighter?
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 3 жыл бұрын
Wiki shows one of the prototypes w a 4 blade, but I don’t think anything but the familiar 3 blade was ever used operationally.
@dubyacwh7978
@dubyacwh7978 8 жыл бұрын
Was it rue the Navy re-introduced the Corsair to carrier operations because the Hellcat wasn't fast enough to catch the fastest kamikazes?
@Thishandleisunavailable493
@Thishandleisunavailable493 8 жыл бұрын
I think it is
@longrider42
@longrider42 8 жыл бұрын
It might also be due to the Corsair's ability to stay aloft longer then the Hellcat
@dogeness
@dogeness 8 жыл бұрын
That's not true. The Japanese had some late-war designs that, while not mass produced in enough numbers to make any real difference, does put a hole in your argument. The Ki-84 and N1K were both faster than the fastest Hellcat variants. The Ki-84 was faster than the F4U-1, but not faster than the F4U-4. The Hellcat could not go 400mph. The last variant, the F6F-5, only went 390. The F6F was outclassed by the Japanese late-war fighters in speed, climb rate, and maneuverability. Only thing it had going for it were better pilots and more numbers.
@jamesrather7170
@jamesrather7170 7 жыл бұрын
A couple of minor points: 1) The Replenishment groups did not accompany the Fast Carrier Forces, too slow. It would have severely restricted their movement ability. Instead there were regular rendezvous points set up based upon the Fleet's activities. Usually only one or two of the Task Groups would replenish at any one time. 2) The Light Carriers, (CVL), were always in the front lines with the Fleet Carriers. Escort Carriers (CVE) traveled with the replenishment Groups to provide replacement aircraft and Pilots. Also all carriers carried a limited number of each type of aircraft on-board for loss replacement and spare parts. 3) I do not recall reading anywhere that the USN adopted "Milch Cow" type submarines to replenish submarines on Patrol Stations. They returned to base for reloads and rest between War Patrols. As the War progressed those Bases were moved closer and closer to the Patrol areas as Forward bases were captured and made secure. 4) The biggest thing the Japanese had going against them towards the end of the war was a lack of Trained and Experienced Pilots. They did not rotate out their Experienced Combat Pilots like the U.S. did to train new pilots. They were coming up with newer more capable aircraft, but could neither produce them in sufficient quantity, nor work out technical glitches for them to have an effect on the outcome of the war.
@LeonardRobertson
@LeonardRobertson 9 жыл бұрын
My dad flew these.
@darrellborland119
@darrellborland119 5 жыл бұрын
@Leonard Daniel Robertson....an amazing memory. thanks.
@jockellis
@jockellis 5 жыл бұрын
What ship? What VF?
@hansvandijk1487
@hansvandijk1487 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your dad we don’t speak German and you don’t speak Japanese. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱.
@LeonardRobertson
@LeonardRobertson 3 жыл бұрын
@@hansvandijk1487 Actually I studied German as a minor in University. I wish I also knew Dutch. One of my ancestors may have lived in the Netherlands with the Pilgrims before sailing to Plymouth Rock on the Mayflower (17th century): maybe that Colonel Robertson knew some Gaelic and Dutch, besides English. They did not starve on the long voyage off course in the storm because of the Chinese rice bags in the hold for ballast. The Pilgrim Fathers had a vote to use Hebrew or English (and maybe German), if I recall correctly, as an official language, and English won. I'm sure lots of Dutch was used in New Amsterdam before it became New York.
@LeonardRobertson
@LeonardRobertson 3 жыл бұрын
@@jockellis USS Langley, and maybe USS Enterprise too; but originally from USS Vega Volunteer Force 52 I believe after surviving Pearl Harbor and shooting down one plane from the big ship guns. Of the 22 in the graduating class only 2, my dad and another pilot, survived the war without injury. Most bought it at the battle of the Coral Sea I heard him say. My dad did survive friendly fire bullets through his fuselage without incident. Almost flew straight down into the water off an aircraft carrier because his propeller pitch was wrong because he did not manually touch all his instruments, doing a mental check only, but sensing danger and skidding to a halt at the edge of the deck at the last minute and having to be pulled back for another attempt, every one screaming for him to hurry up because planes low on fuel needed to land. Awarded the 100,000 miles flying club (or was it 10,000?) without accidents (except almost falling out or floating out of the plane on a dive at Corpus Christi, the 120 degree kind where you're partly upside down and have to pull yourself back in with the flying stick...but that was on a training plane, with the window open...it would have been better to wear the seatbelt...and his trainee trying to laugh because the almost died, if they did not pull up but slammed into the ground...more than one pilot there died that way).
@Q-lowGoblin
@Q-lowGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
The American aircraft of WW2, the rightfully appreciated wonders that could literally do it all.
@TrulyUnfortunate
@TrulyUnfortunate 10 ай бұрын
Had no idea it took this much to get the Hell Cat off the ground!!
@leighsoft
@leighsoft 7 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how big the Hellcat was
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 6 жыл бұрын
leighsoft me too, I never realized it until I saw the picture of the one crashed on the flight deck with a sailor trying to get the pilot out.
@candisully8209
@candisully8209 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT
@rsattahip
@rsattahip 11 жыл бұрын
And it had enough power to get out of its own way, unlike the Wildcat it replaced. Still I've only heard good things about the Corsair too.
@xboxuser69420
@xboxuser69420 3 жыл бұрын
The hellcat's cockpit is similar to the f4f wildcat but more little
@nmflyerrobbin5413
@nmflyerrobbin5413 3 жыл бұрын
fly off at 60 knots like a cessna 172
@Enid2Sacramento
@Enid2Sacramento 8 жыл бұрын
Got a new paint job at 6:52...
@jamsoilder
@jamsoilder 8 жыл бұрын
Most kills of any one fighter during WW II.
@hb9145
@hb9145 4 жыл бұрын
You must mean best kill ratio. The Messerschmitt shot down more enemy aircraft, but was also the most produced aircraft in history.
@jamsoilder
@jamsoilder 4 жыл бұрын
@@hb9145 I stand corrected. 19 to 1 ratio. And yes being aware of just one Bf pilot like Gunther Rall and his 275 confirmed. Now how many Hellcats and Bfs mixed it up? Surely the Brits operated a few Hell kittys.
@Fenixx117
@Fenixx117 3 жыл бұрын
Did he say 40gal/hr!? That's more fuel than max fuel for a PA-28 at 34 USG with over 3.5 hours endurance!
@rickhigson3881
@rickhigson3881 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice!
@shermanhooper324
@shermanhooper324 8 жыл бұрын
KZbin I hate these ads
@geoben1810
@geoben1810 3 жыл бұрын
State of the art cutting edge technology of U.S. Naval Air Power at the time. The manufacturing and production might of American factories and the people ( mostly women) is what helped "win" WW2 .
@wanyelewis9667
@wanyelewis9667 3 жыл бұрын
Pity that it didn't get the P-47's four bladed prop. It would have easily exceeded 400+mph.
@dennisfox8673
@dennisfox8673 3 жыл бұрын
Grumman did make a few developmental F6F-6s which had the 4 blade prop. My source (The book Hellcats at War) states that it could go 417 mph. But at that time the F8F Bearcat was pretty close to being adopted so the navy decided to focus on that. So in other words right you are!
@the28bumper
@the28bumper 9 жыл бұрын
Anyone have info of PAPER DOLL VF 27 I think ?
@bayoubengal1961
@bayoubengal1961 6 жыл бұрын
Man, those guys had to remember a whole lotta shit about their plane, inside and out!
@darrellborland119
@darrellborland119 5 жыл бұрын
@KJ....yes, so 'mechanical' unlike modern aircraft.
@steelangel
@steelangel 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the B-29 Superfortress flight procedures, lolol..
@phased-arraych.9150
@phased-arraych.9150 3 жыл бұрын
And this plane was considered to be one of the easier ones to fly, especially compared to the Corsair and Thunderbolt.
@baliwnadutertards5517
@baliwnadutertards5517 8 жыл бұрын
Its hard to fly must be skilled
@OldManPaxusYT
@OldManPaxusYT 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! ★★★★
@bassethousechannel2579
@bassethousechannel2579 Жыл бұрын
The channel Dronescapes has stolen this film and is showing it as their own.
@stevendee2831
@stevendee2831 8 жыл бұрын
wow the old school stalls make me wanna hurl. but I know it's training.
@dansutherland6482
@dansutherland6482 6 жыл бұрын
And don't forget to unlock your tail wheel....
@mikedetrick7630
@mikedetrick7630 9 жыл бұрын
How in the hell are you supposed to fight in that A/C with all those considerations, climb and dive manifold limits and so on. Amazing really
@jockellis
@jockellis 3 жыл бұрын
An army advanced infantry trainer told me: “If you have to think in a combat situation then we haven’t done our job.” The same could be said by flight instructors. The Hellcat was an OJT fighter with plenty of armor to give pilots a fighting chance to learn from their mistakes. It didn’t have the tag Ensign Eliminator like the Corsair.
@phased-arraych.9150
@phased-arraych.9150 3 жыл бұрын
Those aviators would you usually train to the point where all those steps became muscle memory. In my opinion, this plane isn’t as difficult to fly as a Corsair or a P47.
@theodoros9428
@theodoros9428 3 жыл бұрын
One of the very few Japanese s plane who could stand against it was The George Niki j
@1mattadams
@1mattadams 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough of them to make a difference, like the ME262. Yes?
@theodoros9428
@theodoros9428 3 жыл бұрын
@@1mattadams Agree
@chrisnizer
@chrisnizer 7 ай бұрын
That folding wing mechanism was brilliant. Stack Hellcats tree top high on the carriers because of that folding wing.
@timrogers2045
@timrogers2045 6 жыл бұрын
Light blue touch-paper, and run like hell.
@jdl2444
@jdl2444 10 жыл бұрын
The certification comes with a P.H.D.
@karenaudreytodd
@karenaudreytodd 9 жыл бұрын
Hugh Johnson Are you kidding? This is an incredibly simple plane to fly especially considering it's performance. It's really not much harder than a Cessna 172 and it's landing and stall speeds are about the same. Grumman really thought out what was needed to allow 22 year olds to be safe and effective fighter pilots. The control groupings are the standard everybody has followed ever since. It's just a very safe, simple and stable aircraft by any definition and has no bad habits.
@fredbrillo1849
@fredbrillo1849 9 жыл бұрын
Karen-Audrey .Todd Becareful...Your ignorance is showing... Ive flown several WW2 vintage aircraft... None are easy to fly... some are easier than others... but none are easy. Just interpreting the "steam guages" were a chore, particularly in stressful conditons.. You wouldnt want to fly this airplane under IFR conditions. Fighter airplanes of this vintage were very unstable by nature...they had to be in order to be nimble in a fight. You cant mention C-172 and F-6F in the same sentence..they are not comparable..
@1barnet1
@1barnet1 9 жыл бұрын
+Fred Brillo It sure was easier to land then the german BF109
@fredbrillo1849
@fredbrillo1849 9 жыл бұрын
+1barnet1 Perhaps...I couldnt tell you..Ive never flown a 109..
@1barnet1
@1barnet1 9 жыл бұрын
it had a landing gear the the width of a shopping cart with a v12 with way over a thousand horsepower and no visibility whatsoever. there is a reason why a lot of good pilots died trying to land one.
@tomview1
@tomview1 9 жыл бұрын
The Hellcat was the workhorse, Corsairs were the show ponies.
@dillank3240
@dillank3240 Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting for a flight simmer.
@gpomeroy
@gpomeroy 5 жыл бұрын
I will show this to Rear Admiral Edward Lewis "Whitey" Feightner retired United States Navy ,was on the Enterprise and flew 4f4's, he lives two miles away from me ,99 yrs old last one from VF-10 . Butch O'hare's wingman.
@jombisnes4911
@jombisnes4911 4 жыл бұрын
The engine sound like fishing boat engine 😁
@mike97525
@mike97525 9 жыл бұрын
forgot to unlock tail wheel after landing lol
@jep1103
@jep1103 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Robert Taylor narrating
@crosstimbers2
@crosstimbers2 9 жыл бұрын
@18tangles Dinky Winky Brown never fought a German plane in a Hellcat and he never landed a German plane on a carrier. Being a Grumman designed carrier plane the Hellcat would be much more rugged than the FW-190 - sorry
@derekambler
@derekambler 3 жыл бұрын
He did fly the F4U as the Martlet (Wildcat) from the Audacity (a converted Banana boat, not very big) and he loved it said it was simple to land with its very compliant u/carriage and also the floatation bags for use when ditching. He did shoot down the heavily armed Condor - simply take it on directly from the front. and watch the pilot cringe. He lists the F6U as the fighter in the Pacific Theatre which introduced fighting in the vertical plane which helped it gain a Kill/Loss ratio of 19 to 1, The Zero was only better when used in the Horizontal plane and could use its phenominal turn.
@hugbug4408
@hugbug4408 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekambler Interesting about comparison of zero and hellcat in combat! Which was the better plane? I thought the hellcat could go up to 400 miles per /hrs.. and was heavily armoured with 3 50/cal. machine guns on both sides! A modified wildcat is what it was! But it had the most kill ratios out of all fighter planes during ww2?? Can that be clarified , and how would it stand against the mebf109 , fw190, and Great Britains spitfire!
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын
18:37 Oreos? (Presumably "wheels", but still...)
@MrLikeke
@MrLikeke 7 жыл бұрын
Oleo struts.
@nmflyerrobbin5413
@nmflyerrobbin5413 3 жыл бұрын
PRACTICE A STALL WITH WINGS SHOT OFF
@garymathews9534
@garymathews9534 11 жыл бұрын
what was top speed of a hellcat ?
@muneerpeepsosa2277
@muneerpeepsosa2277 5 жыл бұрын
gary mathews 2000 hp
@darrellborland119
@darrellborland119 5 жыл бұрын
@gary mathews...i think it was around 385 mph...a bit lower than the Corsair, with similar engine.
@jockellis
@jockellis 5 жыл бұрын
Think the later would do 413, IIRC.
@hugbug4408
@hugbug4408 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 410mph at full throttle top speed! The Corsair was about410- 412. The Navies hellcats and corsairs were some of the best on both sides of the world!
@ПрохорГромов-е4с
@ПрохорГромов-е4с 7 жыл бұрын
Super!!
@亨-o3t
@亨-o3t 3 ай бұрын
凡庸だけど大馬力のエンジンで何でも出来た凄い戦闘機でしたね。足りなかったのは最高速度だけでしたが日本機相手なら十分以上だったし頑丈で強い戦闘機でしたね。日本人として言いたい事はもう少しカッコ良くして欲しかったですね。
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Жыл бұрын
One thing I find very interesting about this-and other military film lessons-that wasn't strongly (or sometimes even at all) depicted in movies and books (history or narrative) about the US military in WWII, is the strong safety culture. Prior to watching these, I had the impression that pilots, ground crews, soldiers, sailors, etc, were simply taught how to fight and do their respective jobs. No doubt in combat some corners were cut, but the safety culture depicted here rivals that of jobs I've had these days.
@scotttaylor215
@scotttaylor215 9 жыл бұрын
I would hate to be the ground crew guy.
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 8 жыл бұрын
+Scott Taylor I would do that job just to get the hamburger stand hat and bell bottom pants
@orange70383
@orange70383 10 жыл бұрын
The one drawback on all these planes is no forward vision on the runway. I could imagine landing in an unfamiliar place then trying to find where you're supposed to taxi. Always in a zig-zag trying to see. The design really sucks.
@grandinquisitor135
@grandinquisitor135 10 жыл бұрын
Well, it was the only way to design it if you wanted a prop' large enough to generate any real speed.
@ketatrypt
@ketatrypt 10 жыл бұрын
Grand Inquisitor quite amazing how big those engines were. Nowadays we can get the same BHP from an engine 1/4 the size. (maybe even smaller im just guessing)
@maverickdallas1004
@maverickdallas1004 10 жыл бұрын
REAL pilots flew taildraggers!!!
@crosstimbers2
@crosstimbers2 9 жыл бұрын
orange70383 There were no really good visibility carrier planes that developed over 350 MPH back then. On the carrier deck there were crew to assist with parking the plane. On land you will see crew men laying on the wings of P-47s while they taxi. You have to have a big paddle to go fast.
@crosstimbers2
@crosstimbers2 9 жыл бұрын
ketatrypt 2800 cubic inches
@1339LARS
@1339LARS 11 жыл бұрын
Jezz could I do that ?
@d.howerton9273
@d.howerton9273 8 жыл бұрын
Good camera work but the video should have included the Before Engine Start and Engine Start checklists. A video about the F4U does include the Engine Start checklist and is probably close to the procedure in the F6F since both planes use the P&W R2800 radial engine. Although slower than the F4U, the F6F was reportedly a more forgiving aircraft to fly and land on carriers, but I have never heard a reasonable explanation why the Navy dumped the F6F after the war ended. At $35,000 per plane, they were much cheaper to buy and more were produced than the F4U. Both planes excelled at CAS and ground attack operations. Furthermore, the F6F could carry 4,000 pounds of ordinance or a 2,000 pound torpedo for anti-ship missions and had greater range. The F6F-6 had an increased top speed from 390 mph in the -5 version to 417 mph, making it comparable to the F4U-1 but slower than the F4U-4. Lightening the weight of the F6F by eliminating the folding wing and tail hook hardware for strictly land operations would have increased the top speed and maneuverability of the Hellcat. Given a choice, I would have preferred to fly the F6F Hellcat in combat.
@richardgreenleaf3259
@richardgreenleaf3259 8 жыл бұрын
God, she's beautiful in flight.
@protestsforswisscheesecrac5175
@protestsforswisscheesecrac5175 8 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody says that :)
@markpark9539
@markpark9539 10 жыл бұрын
more rules please... i like rules and puppies.
@paulitanpaul4
@paulitanpaul4 4 жыл бұрын
2000 HORSEPOWER,,,,,, just repeat that a few times.
@endiosnosotrosconfiamos8822
@endiosnosotrosconfiamos8822 5 жыл бұрын
Son gordos y muy robustos
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын
Vne 390 KIAS!
@gaittr
@gaittr 3 жыл бұрын
Gee whiz, if it takes that long to get the damn plane started I'm surprised that Japan didn't invade St.Louis
@killemtoenjoythesilence
@killemtoenjoythesilence 3 жыл бұрын
This is a training video. Believe me, those boys knew how to get them in the air quick.
@1339LARS
@1339LARS 11 жыл бұрын
I´m getting dissy.
@ronaldw2453
@ronaldw2453 5 жыл бұрын
For 1943 that was a hell of a complicated procedure, I don't think i could have flown it
@wanyelewis9667
@wanyelewis9667 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a hell of a complicated procedure today.
@derekambler
@derekambler 3 жыл бұрын
You should look up starting a Liberator or Fortress - you had 4 engines to sort out - lucky you used pretty constant settings on a bomber!!
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