Flying the turbo with Michael Farley

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The video is NOT flight instruction!! No pilot should operate their aircraft based on the things they see in this video. Obtain flight instruction on how to safely operate your aircraft.

[@markwaldron982]

Mike, Thanks very much for the "ride." This is a super way to see the Turbo Aerovee in action, thanks for taking the time to make this video.

[@sugershakify]

I had a good trick on my V35TC for managing turbo lag and over boost on take off roll. Rest your index finger on the throttle control knob as you grip it so that the crease of the first knuckle is laying on the inside edge of the knob. This will stick the first third of your index finger out in front of the control knob. On take off roll go ahead and floor until your finger tip bumps the panel while keeping your eyes up and out and making your airspeed and engine gauge scan. As your take off roll stabilizes and the turbo has spooled up you can now easily monitor your MP and start applying full power. Works great and keeps your head up and eyes out at that critical first few seconds of roll out

[@jessehaneyjr.3125]

Great video Michael. Real knowledgeable. Plan to build turbo Onex in 2021

[@brentjohnson6654]

Thanks for the well done video. I have enjoyed your other video as well describing the installation. On a side note I learned to fly with a Michael Farley in Minnesota. Cheers, Brent

[@jadams3427]

Really awesome little aircraft !

[@michaelfarley9656]

Hi Justin, the company demonstrator that crashed had more time than that; I believe it had nearly 100 hours with the turbo. A final cause has not been published at this point. My engine, after the turbo addition, now has nearly 100 hours on it and it's ran very well the entire time. I believe there's now around 12 turbo AeroVee owners flying and no one has had any major issues. Overall I've been very happy with mine!

[@KCdurt]

Thanks for the reply, Michael. (And the peace of mind :D)

[@jadams3427]

and a very informative movie file. Thanks, and happy flying !

[@joenorris7120]

Great video Mike! Good job!

[@RyanRothVideo]

Excellent video Mike, thanks!

[@Todpevy]

thanks for all the info my sonex is about to be ready for its first flight in the next month or two and thinking very hard on the turbo would love to pick your brain

[@scottinohio5131]

Mike,that was awsome!!!! Scotty

[@stealhty1]

Thanks for share ,nice plane and pilot combination

[@quinnjim]

How is the engine holding up?

[@michaelfarley9656]

Good question Mark. I wouldn't say that you can't perform acro but you would need to be careful with abrupt power changes, especially when adding power so you don't over boost the engine. If you're considering Advanced level acro that requires major power changes very quickly, the non-turbo AeroVee or Jabiru/Cammit 3300 may be a better option just to make life easier. Just my opinion of course!

[@markholm7050]

Need to work on that automatic waste gate. Make it routine instead of emergency and you don't need to worry about over boost.

[@markholm7050]

Or maybe a manifold pressure regulated stop on the throttle. Just an idea that popped into my head. Never heard of such a thing, but that does not make it impossible.

[@spinnetti]

+Mark Holm: Def. a problem solved decades ago... VW uses a frequency control valve that pretty tightly controls boost.. seems easy, but adds complexity and a boost controller.. (could just do EFI with an ECU to control it all FADEC..... lol)

[@mikep60]

Seems if ur bigger than 1 ft across may as well make it a tandem or single cockpit.

[@jacquesvanderwesthuizen1744]

Hi. I noticed you take off from the 3-point position without raising the tail. Are there any benefits for not raising the tail and does it make the takeoff distance shorter?

[@KCdurt]

Hi Michael. I really enjoyed your video. Very well spoken and easy to watch. I'm curious, I'm somewhat new to the turbo and have just recently learned of the crash at Oshkosh with the owner and a mechanic from Sonex in a plane with the turbo. I couldn't for the life of me find any information on the cause other than engine failure after take-off and the vehicles at impact. If I remember correctly, this was somewhere between 20 and 30 hrs TT on the engine. I was really excited about this engine until I saw this. A dig on NTSB showed a few more crashes related to engine power loss after take-off with AeroVee engines. I'm just curious to know how yours is running. How many hours on her? Any problems so far?

[@tinolino58]

Read the NTSB report: the fuel switch was in the OFF position. And we know that the demonstrator airplane had the fuel shutoff valve at the firewall and is controlled with the foot. Its pretty obvious that on take off the pilot unintentionally switched off the fuel with his feet.

[@jwhit3849]

Is this a taildragger or tricycle? Just trying to get an idea of the drag you are experiencing. Nice instructional / info vid.

[@michaelfarley9656]

J Whit my Waiex is a tailwheel equipped version. I love it!

[@josephcarroll6356]

What gas type are you running? When you hit 40 manifold pressure that's at 2 minutes at a time and 35 is cruise pressure right? how long between hitting 40 can you go back to 40 if needed?

[@markholm7050]

Seems like the management of the turbo would preclude any aerobatics that need significant power changes??

[@tornadojunkie]

Very frustrated with the lack of A@Ps that are knowledgeable about the Jabiru or the Ellison Throttle Body. Would like to keep the plane but things are not looking good.

[@flyguyeddy]

Do you intend to put the liquid cooling setup onto your turbo?

[@philbrookman3126]

when u say cylinder temp do u really mean cyl head temp r u measuring it under the plug or where and 54 x 50 prince p tip ok ,,u added a turbo what were the figs before turbo and did u use same prop tia

[@1gliderrider]

Thanks Mike.That was Great

[@isaizargodoy]

I read somewhere that the demostrator crash, this is true ? What is your opinion about the turbo Aerovee , Thanks

[@1bengrubb]

what is your burn rate at your fav cruise?

[@fudogwhisperer3590]

What’s the fuel burn?

[@t54760]

Maybe it's the camera angle but can you get two adults in the cockpit?

[@michaelfarley9656]

Tom Open well, I’m 6’3” and 240 lbs so taking people with me can be a challenge. I’ve had people as big as 5’10”, 180 lbs in there with me and it’s snug but okay for short hops. That’s probably about as big of a passenger as I can carry. On the other hand, two people at 5’8” each would be comfortable. For most Sonexes you’ll end with a useful load of around 400-450 pounds and if you can keep things within that limit you’ll be fine!

[@tornadojunkie]

Can anyone tell me where to buy Ngk DR9EA plugs with the end caps. The last set I bought didn't have them so I used ones off old plus and a few backed off over time and caused misfiring. Any Ideas ? Thanks

[@daneberry2507]

Oh wait! At about 8:36 we learn that he is LEFT Handed! Left hand on the stick, and he has modified the throttle to the right hand!

[@marcusrussell8660]

Any idea how that engine killed Jeramy and his employee.?

[@AlpineWarren]

Sonex looks way narrower than I thought - Bummer... :(

[@hermanfritz4944]

Wonder why he is flying with the Jabaru 6 cylinder now???

[@michaelfarley9656]

Mostly load carrying capability. I have two sons that are growing quickly and they want to fly with daddy, so I want the best engine option for carrying two people!

[@Mike-01234]

Why no waste gate?

[@michaelfarley9656]

blastman8888 the turbo AeroVee does in fact have a wastegate that is used to prevent excessive boost pressure from possibly damaging the engine. It's spring loaded (automatic operation) so there's no manual control for the pilot. Once boost pressure reaches a certain level, the pressure overcomes spring tension and opens the wastegate. Simple!

[@Mike-01234]

Michael Farley Is that how all aircraft turbo engines work you have to control the manifold pressure at lower altitudes and then when your up higher you can use full throttle nothing to compensate for altitude.

[@michaelfarley9656]

blastman8888 Most "modern" turbocharged airplanes I instruct in, such as a Cirrus SR-22T, have automatic wastegate controls that are super easy to use. Simply go to full throttle and manifold pressure goes right to maximum allowable! Easy! With the AeroVee turbo you have to be a little more careful because the wastegate controller is sort of a final fail-safe...for normal flying, the pilot watches the gauges and sets power for maximum allowable. I hardly ever have the throttle pushed all the way forward. It reminds me more of flying a Kingair with PT-6's; they're the same way! As you climb, eventually you'll reach an altitude where you'll be able to go wide open throttle and you'll still be in the allowable manifold pressure range. We call this "critical altitude" which means above that, you'll be at less than full power even with the turbo working as hard as it can. Make sense?

[@Mike-01234]

Michael Farley I'm not a pilot but want to be so I'm just learning about aircraft engines I have built some turbocharged car racing engines and we always used a pressure regulator to control the waste gate some connected to computers some were just manual like a regulator on a compressor airline and a blow off valve for over pressure when you cut the throttle fast during manual shifting you wouldn't need a blow off valve or want one on a aircraft in case it fails. Seems a manual pressure regulator would adjust to atmosphere pressure keep the engine manifold pressure constant as it uses that as a reference line.