2015 Citation M2: Chicago / Colorado Springs / Long Beach

[@craigzeller6247]

OK, here's some info for your viewers questioning your mic placement. The mic's on aviation headsets (and the hand PTT mic's as well) are Noise Cancelling Microphones. Unlike a normal mic which only has one opening for sound pickup, a noise-cancelling mic has an opening facing your mouth to pickup your voice as well as any ambient cockpit noise. It also has another opening on the rear of the mic housing which only picks up the cockpit ambient noise. Since the noise impinges upon both the front and rear of the mic diaphragm, the noise vibrations cancel each other out, leaving only your voice. When you move the mic element away from your mouth, your voice is also picked up at the rear opening, cancelling your voice vibrations. That's why noise cancelling mics require that you position them very close to your mouth.

[@FlyingwithRich]

I’m vindicated - thank you!

[@jeffr6280]

Your audio/video is excellent on all your videos, especially considering the variety of aircraft you fly. Some people don't appreciate the amount of effort that goes into what you do, the vast majority of us do. Thanks for doing what you and your crew do, and keep up the good work Rich.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the message - we appreciate it!

[@rbosman33]

@@FlyingwithRich $$

[@LCRider13]

Y'all should have 500K subscribers by now. The quality of the content and editing makes your channel my favorite aviation channel. Keep up the excellent work!

[@jp2823]

most underrated channel. you guys do such a great job and I appreciate the hard work behind your vids. cheers from Montreal!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@robertrpenny]

Good honest flying channel with no head games, skateboards, f/o babes, way cool tunes or air force stories

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@danielreuter2565]

Anyone complaining about the microphone close to your mouth has never flown with a headset and should shut up. These mics have a very assertive high pass filter in order to block out engine noise. They are designed to be right against your mouth.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the message!

[@christopheraust]

Great content, as always, Rich! The wind cover on the mic is supposed to touch your lips for optimal pickup. Trust the science!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks!

[@sergivan08]

It's Saturday and there a new Rich video. Can't get any better than that 🎉

[@garylucas6511]

Nice change in your typical mission. I enjoyed it!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks!

[@kmg501]

I used to be a professional audio tech for live/stage events, (not a engineer). A close to source mic placement means that you can turn down the gain which ostensibly means that the mic picks up less extraneous sound. That is what you want for the vocal talent, other microphone placements (distances & types) are used for instruments and audiences. Mic placement is a balancing act with mic gain setting and how the talent behaves. I find a few too many KZbin aviators overdo the mic gain which makes for bad (crunchy) audio.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Wow - great info thanks! What do you think of our sound?

[@kmg501]

@@FlyingwithRich Your production quality is great, both audio and video. I watched the video again but this time with Sony MDR-7506 headphones to have another reference. I really enjoy your videos because I'm not fighting crunchy audio. :p Cheers

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you - really appreciate the feedback!

[@surferonhigh71]

I really like this long format, it certainly enough time for the content going in; enjoyed the flight details well explained by Rich, hes the best, lots of experience behind those eyes; the landing in Colorado Springs was awesome, great camera work on final @ Long Beach well done guys!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks!

[@CCitis]

Videos quality and editing getting better and better. I really like the longer Vlog format. Keep it up.

[@mythicalphoenix5293]

Great video Rich! I'm a commercial student who flies in the Chicago airspace all the time, cool to see you fly out of Aurora. You're really making me consider getting into corporate aviation with these videos haha

[@FlyingwithRich]

Cool airport! Lots of options for flying now!

[@cherokeerookie]

Awesome vid! Rich no need to address trolls about mic position.

[@cj2driver]

Great video Rich. Been following you from the beginning. Those people bitching about your mic position are flying from their mom’s basement on Microsoft Flight Sim 98. Side note, the production value of your videos has gone up exponentially and are very enjoyable to watch. Keep it up. Keep the blue side up and the brown side down.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you - appreciate me the feedback!

[@paullehr9236]

Enjoyed your video. Brought back memories of flying in that area when I was based at Fort Carson in 1970-71. I did some flying in a Mooney Ranger and a Statesman out of a small airport just south of COS that doesn't exist anymore. I think that it was called Rocky Mountain. I got my Private license about 2 weeks before I went in the Army and I managed to do a little flying wherever I was stationed. Back in the days when I could rent for about $15-$20 and hour. I also saw Bob Hoover at COS when he came into COS to do his 2 engine, 1 engine, no engine demo in what I think was a Shrike Commander because the FBO was an Aero Commander dealer. Amazing demo by an amazing pilot. Thanks for triggering those memories again.

[@edwardwright5464]

I agree in regards to the mic being close to the lips. I have had instances when the mic wasn't close enough, that it didn't pick up. Since putting the mic up to my lips, I haven't had any problems with ATC picking me up. I really enjoy your videos. Looking forward to seeing more. Have a great day and GOD Bless.

[@arlynmcadorey3044]

Excellent video! Really enjoying the longer form content.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@vanallen9453]

thanks again Rich..always enjoy flying along with you..and keep em coming..

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@YToooFU]

I love the sounds of airplanes launching and taking off. This part of the video can be made longer.

[@n176ldesperanza7]

Rich--You are a pro. I like how you don't hurry the readbacks. I'm sure you have to think for a minute to remember what tail number you're in!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Tail numbers are the challenge for sure!

[@billfly2186]

I got tired just watching this trip. It's like being a regional airline pilot - but single pilot. Good job.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@JesusGarcia-hl7jk]

Appreciate the commentary, explanations, glass panel details etc, It's all good, keep them coming!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you for watching!

[@sidb9540]

great video! THREE flights in one day!!

[@mattd4616]

Those were some ferocious head winds on that first leg, I think I saw 125kts initially, another great video Rich

[@igrant1]

You’re an inspiration Rich! I hope I get there one day

[@wesreed617]

Totally agree with you on the mic and appreciative of Craig’s excellent explanation…did not realize that. Great work, really enjoy your content.

[@jasonalpha]

Great video. Very informative and interesting

[@jongrosfield4253]

Beautifully shot!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@gbglobetrotter]

This was wonderful…. A nice juxtaposition of the hassles of commercial flight compared to the joys of general aviation!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@michaelboley4428]

Wish I knew when you were doing that I would have been happy to get a free ride to Cali😂😂😂

[@Aereaux]

I always like flying into the LA basin at night.

[@ronstowe8898]

Love the detail and descriptions in the videos. Love the tech. Great videos.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@denniswagner3962]

I love these videos.

[@captainnate8908]

super cool to see yall in my neck of the woods, ARR is a great airport! im always in and out of there.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very nice Airport and FBO!

[@ericm333]

Love the-Marcy Avenue’ soundtrack. Thanks for sharing RICH 🤜🏾

[@ohwell2790]

Talking about fuel burn. When a crew chief of a 1964 C-130E USAF the fuel burn was 1100 lbs per hour per engine for a total of 4400 lbs per hour and a TIT 900 degrees C. Good thing the plane had 68,000 lbs of fuel. The normal ground load of fuel was 24,000 lbs. And when hauling freight we were lucky to cruise at 27,000 ft.

[@observer1242]

Wish I had known you were there. Would’ve come out and said hello. I am a huge admirer. JA is a nice outfit.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Hopefully next time - now I know! Thanks for your support of the channel!

[@richardc6843]

Rich, who cares what people say about where your mic is. Just do what makes you comfortable. The audio sounds fine. Keep up the great work!

[@warwickchristian5682]

Beautiful aircraft....great video.

[@drcode4]

Another great video Rich....and I was taught to position my microphone to almost touch my lips too. Don't let them give you a hard time.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks - glad to get some positive confirmation on that!

[@mikercflyer7383]

I guess I’ll never know the pleasure riding in a small jet. Safe travels

[@AZee-hh4mk]

Another great video Rich, M2 is a beautiful ship... You mentioned the turboprops, so Interesting to look at the M2 numbers on this flight, and compare to the TBM turboprop. You are 22%( 70K ) faster, but you're burning about twice the fuel (+100%). Turboprops are efficiency kings by a wide margin. Next, if you had 300 lbs more useful available on this flight, the TBM would have given us 450 lbs more useful load with 2 on board and tanks full. And yes, greater chance of being on top for sure in the M2, being at FL400 vs FL310 max in the TBM. On the turbulence equation, that seems most often associated with altitudes near the tropopause where the jetstream and mixing action is going on, and right where the airlines are flying low 30's to high 30's. The TBM ride is usually always smooth between FL200 - FL300 as we are far enough below the tropopause action, and so your FL400 can be just high enough to get a smooth ride on the turbulent days depending on the jet stream action on any given day,

[@FlyingwithRich]

Great feedback - thank you!

[@belliott4213]

Beautiful flight! Thanks for sharing…

[@Mike4444x]

Rich, you sound cool with or without a mic!

[@JW-gb6hq]

Excellent work as usual. Appreciate the hard work and time you expend making the great content. I always enjoy watching the professional aviation while keeping the demeanor very pleasant. No bs in short….. the mic thing 😂 as I was just talking about that with a friend after reviewing a flight vid and the ridiculous faces I/we make checking out mic proximity at times.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@joeblow5037]

DAMN! that thing has some get up and go 😀

[@patriottexan]

Wow. What an amazing day of flying! Thanks for sharing!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for watching!

[@rumor29]

Excellent channel. I wonder what that light is that can be seen at minute 20:46

[@ericm333]

Thanks for sharing Rich. That head wind to KCOS… zero fun

[@FlyingwithRich]

It was brutal! Thanks for watching!

[@MrNice-gw5dt]

great ride Rich! thanks!

[@donlyons5279]

I learned a long time ago not to pay much attention to critics because they don’t enjoy life like you and I.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yeah I agree. I was curious if something I was missing!

[@justsomedude2962]

I agree with you on the mic placement. I also use it close, almost touching my lips. When I first started flying, before noise cancellation and modern electronics, if you didn't have the mic close to your lips, you would have trouble activating the VOX feature. Not a problem communicating with ATC because you would use the PTT button, but to communicate with pilots or passengers, you would almost have to scream to activate the VOX system. Now days, you don't even notice the VOX feature.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very true - maybe that’s where I developed the habit as well. I know we have audio issues on the camera as well.

[@josephhann8844]

Wow! 119 knots on the nose. I would have a 40 knot ground speed in my airplane.

[@roloduarte3100]

Beautiful videos.

[@johnhoss2950]

She's a beauty Clark.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks Eddie!

[@dustinpward]

Dang Rich. If someone has an issue with your mic placement, they should be spending their time on something productive. Love the flying. Love the videos. I'll hit you up when I'm in the market...

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the message and watching!

[@EtiRats]

Hey Rich & Matteo, another great one, well done. Interesting playing with the altitude vs. TAS vs. fuel flow equation….. does your FMC give you an Optimum or Recommended flight level, accounting for actual winds? Appreciate what you say about the fuel burn being significantly better at FL400, but that 120kt on the nose must really affect the numbers. Saw you had 75kt headwind at the lower levels, … so often with jets it’s a question of do we want to go fast or do we want to go cheap!? Keeping above the weather and other traffic always good for sure. Keep up the good work guys.

[@FlyingwithRich]

We usually look at Foreflight to get best altitude. It’s mindless now to access best altitude for fuel/time with flight planning like Foreflight. It’s almost always highest altitude for time/fuel burn. Some shorter trips obviously not, but even then normally the higher the better.

[@CCitis]

I always have my mic pretty much brushing my upper lip. Works the best that way.

[@eastakho]

Sick!

[@tericaclark4871]

I want to learn to fly the hawker 4000❤❤❤ I wish I had someone to teach me

[@MrRathel]

Headwind almost 124Kt @ F400? Fuel is cheap in US😁

[@extremetoy]

Our tail numbers are 1 letter off… 234ws trade ya planes :) love the videos though!

[@ralphwoodard609]

Hey Rich, I would’ve loved to meet you at the Colorado Springs Airport. This is where I live. Oh well.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Next time!

[@h2oski1200]

if it was blue I'd probably buy it but for now I'll keep my mooney :)

[@thomasairbuspilot]

Hardcore mic touching lips believer here, maximizes functionality. Ignore the haters!

[@dhaferalqarni9291]

God lord 124 knots headwind!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Brutal!

[@johnnyrocco]

@3:51 How can you be only 300ibs under gross with only 2 on board? Can you not top the tanks and have all 4 seats filled?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Depends on the passengers.

[@skyepilotte11]

Come on man...persons making comments on the proximity of the mic to your lips...how about the excellent videos and comm clarity. Thx Rich...fine flight...fine aircraft.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@agp7073]

Another nice video Rich. The yokes in Citations seem high compared to other jets?

[@FlyingwithRich]

I think they might be a little higher for sure but not a major difference. Thanks for watching!

[@garylucas6511]

Suggestion to explain to non pilots, you may want to explain difference between IAS and TAS… why IAS reads so low at 40K altitude. Apologies if you have before. I know my friends that fly with me in the past have asked thar question.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Good suggestion. Will do!

[@HondaGoldwingGL1800]

I dont guess you have flown a Piaggio P.180 Avanti yet. It cruises at 365 kts easy but can do over 450 kts and do it all at FL-310 to FL-410 and burning less than a jet. While flying to Rio and San Paulo, Brazil out of Houston, we would many times climb to FL-400 after about 4 or 5 hours flying time and burning off some weight. If you want to get well above the commercial traffic, go to Fl-450 and then you are almost always alone.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Never flown one but seems like an amazing aircraft. Too bad it didn’t catch hold on the market. Thanks for watching!

[@HondaGoldwingGL1800]

@@FlyingwithRich You might be thinking about the Beechcraft Starship not catching on very well, but the Piaggio is pretty well established. With both aircraft, the sound is weird and makes you think...what Japanese monster show is on now...weird but double cool sound. If you ever come to Fort Worth let me know ahead of time and I will see what I can do about getting you in one. The guy that bought up most of the Starships and that really upset Beechcraft because they wanted them is based in Denton and there is a Piaggio service center in Denton. Stop in sometime and have a look.

[@Kenneth7205]

What is the music artist and song used at Colorado Springs landing

[@firepilot109]

Love the videos and learning about other aircraft, but I'm still dumbfounded that their are morons in our aviation community that would comment on mic placement! lol You are living the dream that most wish they could! Keep up the great work.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@firepilot109]

@@FlyingwithRich Passed the IFR checkride yesterday! Now to move on to commercial.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Congratulations!

[@firepilot109]

@@FlyingwithRich Thank you sir!

[@Ryan-719]

Anyone notice the right fuel level inop after departing COS?

[@garylucas6511]

I have always worn my mic very close to my lips. I have to in a nonJet aircraft due to ambient in the plane and the noise cancellation properties if the mic/headset will keep your vox from activating for intercom or you will have low transmit audio which i hate when i can hardly hear other pilots and have to turn my volume to hear them!

[@amiraghazadeh5820]

💙💙💙

[@bernardanderson3758]

I’m ready to ride Rich and make room for me one day

[@VetOnFire]

On a scale from 1-10, which a/c has the highest workload during takeoff/cruise/landing?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Pressurized piston twins!

[@Dunwyche]

W00T!

[@loub747]

You seriously need someone, like me, to ride in the back and give a "cabin tour". Half the appeal of an airplane like these is behind the cockpit. I can drink wine and eat cheese with the best of them! Lou B

[@FlyingwithRich]

Perfect addition to the videos!

[@GooberPilot]

how do you record the audio?

[@FlyingwithRich]

I think the device is from N Flight.

[@ExtremeRecluse]

Why is this aircraft being put up for sale?

[@FlyingwithRich]

I don’t ask those questions.

[@bernardanderson3758]

I’m familiar with JA

[@Matthewabramsky]

Does it ever creep you out to just hop in some radom plane fly it cross country? It's not like picking up a chevy malibu at Avis.

[@FlyingwithRich]

No - we usually know the airplane pretty well based on logs, owners, etc so always feels comfortable to me.

[@tjjoseph333]

Yeah...people in the comments....don't listen to them. Includes me! 😂

[@philiplarson2229]

ORD to KAR via Uber must have cost $100?

[@FlyingwithRich]

You are correct!

[@sey1yes2]

keep the mike close to your lips. sound is excellent,

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@GaryMCurran]

Nice flight back, Rich. Wonderful to see you flying something like this. Hey, gotta question for you. Your cameraman, is he also a rated pilot? I could be wrong, but if you're above FL400, do you have to be on oxygen if there isn't another rated pilot in the right seat? If so, is that above FL400, or does it start at FL400? I'm assuming since you weren't on O2, it wasn't at FL400. What's the rated ceiling for an M2?

[@MichaelVanHeemst]

The whole microphone thing and people saying things like “you talk so macho on the radio” are so annoying. “You’re just flying a Cessna, do you think you’re a Blue Angel?!!!” I’m like bruh, this is how I speak naturally. Deal with it.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Agree - thanks for watching!

[@Draintheswamp2024]

airplanes don't actually level off wink wink remember if anyone askes the airplane is always nosed forward accounting for the curvature.

[@johngarduno]

rich i had a mick right on my lips in my tank in the military thats how we talked it was sure and on line bro john from sandiego.......................19-delta us cav scout snipper.........................

[@johngarduno]

soooo there

[@davidkiefer301]

While the M2 does not replace the Mustang it is the closest model in Cessna's line up. In a future video could you highlight the differences. Thanks Rich

[@FlyingwithRich]

We did a video comparing them w while back. Check it out and let me know what you think!

[@haidercoversynthpianomusic747]

Good video good aircraft as Others Good ppl.. flight ✈️ instructor Teacher...dad... good looking Family members Haider Haider a Khan Solo pianist Huntsville Alabama USA April 2023

[@appamaddox8190]

Stop french kissing the microphone!

[@AirstripBum]

I wear mine close as well. I swing it down and then pucker and if my lower lip can touch the mic while slightly stuck out, it's close enough. Any further away and it's intermittent.

[@nicokostiuk1840]

Just curious Rich , what light jets (smaller size ones) that you haven't flown yet? And next questions is which ones that you have flown that you would say overall are just best category of the light jet market? Cheers .

[@FlyingwithRich]

I have not flown Eclipse or Phenom 100 - all the certified light jets are really great airplanes as far as performance, and flying qualities. Phenom 300, Cessna's 525s and 510, and the Honda Jet seem to be the best market performers to me.

[@samvelsimonyan7375]

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