I Bought 4 Wen Tools, One HUGE Failure and 3 Game-Changers

[@Bwinks1629]

WEN is an American company there in Illinois. It’s not a foreign company. It just sounds like it is.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yes, it looks like their hedquarters is in Illinois now, but most of the manufacturing looks like it is done elsewhere. Thanks so much for sharing Bwinks!

[@DavidRavenMoon]

@@FlynndoggWoodworkWEN has also been around since 1951. My first electric router was a WEN I bought in the late 70s. Everything is made overseas these days. I have a WEN jointer and plainer that look just like other brands but with the WEN label.

[@samspeake]

The tools are not made in America

[@SeaFanStudio]

I was going to comment the same.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@DavidRavenMoon makes sense! I think many of these companies farm out half their manufacture overseas these days. Makes them a heck of a lot more affordable for us I guess.

[@Grimster72]

I literally bought the combo square last week! But you just taught me about the scribing tool it has, thanks! Adding the 2" pocket edge ruler to my list. I have like 6 pocket hole jigs now, so no danger of me buying another :D Thanks for the vid.

[@avifuster]

WEN is not a Chinese brand. It was founded by Nick Anton in 1951. The company's headquarters are located in West Dundee, Illinois.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Correct, it seems I was confused, sounds. like most of the manufacturing is done there but US based. Thanks so much for watching

[@johnmack537]

If you’d spent a little more time “researching” on the internet you could have learned the ACTUAL origins of the WEN brand.

[@kenerickson4923]

Are you growing the beard to protect against the snow and wind?

[@samspeake]

The tools are not made in America

[@cblack1863]

The word 'Boycott' is very offensive. Please use 'Personcott'

[@davepoidvin2364]

Flynndog, you are good. Thank you for being honest. I like your jokes, we need humor in our lives. I am pleased with your comment about bad tools and new woodworkers, very thoughtful. Keep well and raise hell. Dave & The Girls

[@billybike57]

If I didn’t have my Startett 12”& 6”square, micrometer and feeler gauge from my apprenticeship some 47 years ago these are right up my alley. 😉 thanks for sharing!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh man! You went with the best of the best right away. So cool to hear a Starrett is still going strong after all that time. Doesn't surprise me one bit!

[@spookymufu]

I have this same pocket hole jig and I love it, mine has none of those issues. For dust collection I jut put my 4" hose next to it and it's fine. As far as depth stop adjustment, if I remember correctly the owners manual tells you to put the bit with the guid on into the drill guied holes then lift the drill bit until it just comes off the base plate about 1/16" and then secure the collar. I never used the included Allen key because I have full sets of T handle wrenches. It's a good jig, looks you got one with some issues, send it back for a new one

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Awesome, thank you so much for sharing this Spookymufu. Sounds like you got a good one. I wish I had the same experience. Really like hearing everyones experience with tools like this. Thanks so much for sharing and watching!

[@shanemelville]

Wen is some of the first tools I purchased when getting into woodworking. I own the 13” planer, drill press, dust filter, and their portable sander. Every product I have been happy with and have used them for years. I have started to replace some of them as I get more into my craft. Over on 731, Matt does a full review on all of their measuring tools he rates them very high. I’ve never used their pocket hole jig I use armor’s pocket hole jig. I love it I replaced Craig’s pocket hole jig for it. Thanks for sharing your videos are always entertaining

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience with their tools! Love that you've been using them for years! I started out with Ryobi and wish I would have known about Wen back in the day. Love Matt's Channel. Thanks so much for watching and have a great weekend!

[@projectrebuild908]

Thank you for highlighting these there is some great ones in this list

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much projectrebuild! I appreciate it!

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video Bryan love the new names for Wen. Thanks for sharing. Hope you have a great weekend.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Really appreciate it Jim! Thanks as always for watching and I hope you are having a great weekend as well! We all are trying to stay warm here!

[@mdlinny]

Another entertaining and informative video done in a most professional manner!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

:). Thanks so much mdlinny! I really appreciate it!

[@patcross5799]

Happy Saturday, I have a few Wen tools, including a 13" planer, and have found them to be quite functional and at a nice price point. I was thinking the new name should be Now!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! Love that Pat! Can't believe I didn't think of that name when I was making this video! :).

[@gteam53]

Always fun and valuable. Enjoyed watching a lot! Thanks!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thank you so much gteam! Really appreciate that! Have a wonderful weekend!

[@dannapier8563]

I started woodworking about 4 years ago. I have mostly Wen machines ...Planer, drill press, 1 x 30 belt sander, oscillating belt sander, bandsaw, wet/dry sharpening system, electric hand planer. That's all I think. Oh and air filtration. All work great. The sharpener's buffing wheel is a little off but still works

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience! It's nice to hear from others who have used Wen tools. You've made some great choices over the years! Thanks so much for watching Dannapier!

[@michaelsheets6851]

I started to get the pocket hole jig but got the Vevor instead. I'm glad now i did. I have some of their stuff and been very pleased. The spiral cut planner and plunge router are great for the price.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I've heard good things about Vevor as well. Thanks for watching Michael!

[@jonny8547]

Check out the vevor pocket hole jig…it’s as close to perfect as I’ve found, it’s only missing dust extraction but for $48 after tax for the kit that includes blow molded case, c clamp, stabilizer bar, screws, etc it’s an absolute steal

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh nice! I would like to check out some more vevor tools. They were pretty agressive with me when I first started out trying to send me free tools and such but I got so many of their tools that just didn't stack up in quality so I kind of gave up on them. Probably worth taking another look at some of their items. Thanks so much for watching Jonny!

[@thefrankperspective4247]

Craftsperson is so 20th century… and when you said Wen pocket hole jig, I was like uh-oh.

[@tpaulsmith7194]

Dammit boy! You are looking svelte. WEN Tools…pretty good tools, made with moderate care. There’s your slogan.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Love it. That about wraps them up perfectly! :). Thanks so much for watching as always Paul! Really appreciate it!

[@tomhemphill9139]

I have the pocket hole jig and did have them problems. Only problem I have is tear out from drilling out the holes.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh yeah, I wonder if you used a different pocket hole bit if it would work better. I feel like when I use the higher end bits all of these cheaper tools work better. Thanks so much for sharing and watching Tom!

[@scottmorris4914]

On the pocket hole jig, everyone uses this screw thread adjustable clamp. Armor makes a self adjusting clamp upgrade that really makes it nice. I was going to scrap my Kreg K2, until I got that clamp upgrade.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh nice, I'll have to check that out! Thanks so much for sharing and watching Scott!

[@attheworktable]

I love this channel! ❤

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

You are way too kind attheworktable! :). Thanks so much for watching!

[@RayandSandysWoodworking]

Nice tutorial on Wen tools. I have a few of their tools and they preform very well. IMO Kreg makes the best pocket hole jig and great customer service. As always thanks for the video!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yep! I agree with you on Kreg! I wish they would make a metal verson. May not need to and I'm sure they are doing it to keep costs down, but I would totally buy a metal Kreg version! Have a great weekend!

[@thomasbagwell4510]

The pocket edge ruler must be made of unobtainium. Seems to be out of stock everywhere, even at WEN.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I know right! Isn't that the same metal that Bob Lazaar said the UFOs ran on? (I'm a UFO dork).

[@rlg8484]

Great show as always. Please start showing outtakes. I think those would be a blast to see.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much rlg8484! I appreciate it!

[@bobbray9666]

Screw holes not lining up is a huge quality red flag. The disposable Chinese workers are there only for a meager pay check and could care less. Management is only concerned about output and QA slows the process down.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks for watching Bobbray. I guess everyone is telling me that they are an american company manufactured in other places. Still doesn't change the fact that the product didn't work appropriately. thanks so much for watching

[@odinnullfather9819]

"WEN" was an American economy tool company when I was a kid (1960's), one step ahead of Black & Decker; now it's a zombie brand, the name having been purchased by some foreign company. "Skil" is as well. Having said that, I agree that both are making some pretty good tools for the money. I am considering the Skil router kit to fill out my router collection (PC, Craftsman, and Milwaukee), as they're not bad for $150, and I don't really want to spend stupid money for Iron Turd, Botch, Makita, or Milwaukee.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I was just talking to someone this week about Skil. I'd really like to get a few of their tools and check them out. Seem very reasonably priced for the quality. Thanks so much for watching odinnulfather!

[@mikes9959]

The combination square looks like a tool I'd like much better over the one currently stored in my bench. Also, that pocket hole jig might make an interesting conversation piece put to use as a doorstop.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! Never thought of that! :). Great idea! Thanks so much for watching Mike!

[@kevinroberts9814]

I've recently become a Wen fan as well, but you're absolutely right. Any tool brand can have a lemon once in a while. In the past two years I've purchased two of the worst tools I've ever owned -- one by Woodpeckers and another by Festool!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

That's funny how that works Kevin. Doesn't really matter how much you spend on a tool, every once in a while you'll get something you'll be disappointed with. Plus with spending more money you also have higher expectations! Thanks so much for watchign!

[@adam-qf2vz]

Afternoon...... As Usual an informative and quality put together video.....Thank you for the toime and effort you put into your videos...... you mentioned some internal projects? how are they coming along? I see you are well snowed in there?

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yes! We are actually living out of two rooms right now, Our bedroom and the kitchen. It's in full swing and trying to figure out how to incorporate some content into the channel. Stay warm Adam, it's COLD here!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Do you have a link for your wall mounted clamp rack?

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh yes! I love that thing! It's called the clamp companion. Here is the link to it: rstoolcompany.com/flynn FLYNN10 - coupon code to get 10% off. Thanks so much for watching sekritskworl-sekrit_studios!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@FlynndoggWoodwork thanks!

[@TheKidFromYTown]

I was surprised about the pocket hole jig. Nice video. What is the music you use in your video?

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yeah me too TheKidFromYTown. Really appreciate you watching. I believe the song is called Not Looking For a Hero. It was part of a copyright free music program I purchased a few years back!

[@TheKidFromYTown]

@@FlynndoggWoodwork Thank you. - I didn't know there is lyrics to this song. I thought it was an instrumental. 🤓👍

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@TheKidFromYTown Oh I didn't either! :). I guess I haven't listened to the hole song. My version doesn't have lyrics. I'll have to check it out now!

[@TheKidFromYTown]

@@FlynndoggWoodwork 🤓👍

[@timhankins3436]

Love your videos. That said. You look great. If you’re doing a weight loss routine, it’s working. My wife lost 80 lbs on Mounjaro and I know positive vibes are always nice to hear. Take care. Can’t wait for the next video.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yes! Thank you Tim. I'm on a similar drug and continuing a different diet and continuing to exercise. Hoping to keep it off this time. thanks so much for noticing and thanks for watching!

[@kenerickson4923]

Maybe if I buy the thread checker , I'll be able to understand the metric bolt code. My necklace with imperial and metric thread checker works well identifying what I need but I still don't want it means.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yeah, I hear you ken. Plus a lot of times, I notice that even if I do know what kind i need my home depot has things in the wrong place and still end up buying the wrong size if I don't check and double check the packaging!

[@seanbrotherton542]

I could use an affordable combination square. How will the accuracy hold up over time?

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Great question SeanBrotherton. I'll be doing a follow-up video at the end of the year. Really seems to be very comparable to all my other combinations squares so far. Thanks so much for watching!

[@sonofsandwiches6892]

Never mind the tools, I want that shirt!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

:). Thanks so much sonofsandwiches! I've got a lot of them. I have them all on my website: www.flynndoggwoodwork.com. Really appreciate you watching!

[@dugsaun7303]

the taper gage is for measuring the inside diameters for internal threads

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Awesome thanks for sharing and watching dugsaun!

[@afpitbull60]

Love it! Definitely appreciate the humor. I have a suggestion for the name change. How about..."if not now, WEN"

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Great one AfPitbull! :). Can't believe I didn't think of that one! :). Thanks so much for watching as always afputbull! Really appreciate it and have a great weekend!

[@afpitbull60]

@@FlynndoggWoodwork Back at you my friend. By the way, the facial hair looks good. Have an awesome weekend!!!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@afpitbull60 THanks so much! I'm kind of liking not having to shave everyday! :)

[@robertmceuen3630]

I figured it was the pocket hole jig. IMO it is a questionable way to join corners anyway.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I think it is great for cabinets, but isn't the most stable unless it's got at least some woodglue as well. Thanks so much for watching Robert!

[@gregghernandez2714]

That's too bad about that pocket hole jig. I have a couple of WEN tools and I am very happy with them. The drill press is one example. Unfortunately that pocket hole jig looks like a knock off of the Massca jig which is a nice, well machined jig. I like that the body is all aluminium and built to last. I would send that jig back for a refund.

[@sabatinoparisse6343]

Always enjoy your tool reviews. I am a Craftsman fan from decades ago. Mediocre, average quality, but suits my needs. Maybe you can do a Craftsman tool review sometime.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I would love to do that Sabatinoparisse! Great idea, Thanks so much and I appreciate you watching!

[@Clint3029]

What's backwards for NEW? WEN

[@kensmith855]

Great video

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much Ken! Really appreciate it!

[@Oxcart19-s8r]

Dwight Tools, ha ha. I have a different brand of the 2" pocket edge ruler, use it all the time, but it doesn't have the beveled edge markings. Hmmm, I might have to "upgrade" (?) to a WEN!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! I did like that feature on the edge rule. Makes it a little easier on my old eyes! Thanks so much for sharing and watching OxCart!

[@MyGrowthRings]

I’ve been happy with Kreg jigs since the 90’s, but on a lark and with a coupon I purchase the Harbor Freight “Drill Master” jig, which is surely Kim to the WEN and you missed the one negative that I thought for sure you would mention. I’m assuming you didn’t drill a single pocket hole with it or you would have screamed about how ragged the edges of the holes are due to the fact that the jig isn’t supporting the bit where it meets the wood. Nope, the bit is just floating out in space, unlike the Kreg jigs which supports the bit all the way to the wood surface. I’ve been very pleased with the value that many of the new WEN tools deliver, but as you demonstrated, there’s an occasional ugly sister in the family.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience with the HF jig. I did do a couple of pocket holes with the jig, and comparable to some of the other cheaper metal versions. I had some really bad experiences with a version of these metal jigs with the Enjoywood model. Seems like it is a crap shoot with a lot of these cheaper brands. The quality control just doesn't seem to be there like some of the bigger name brands like Kreg. Thanks again for sharing and watching MyGrowthRings!

[@mikewatson4644]

I have the Harbor Freight jig also. The holes aren't nearly as ragged if I use a Kreg bit.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@mikewatson4644 Oh nice! I'm definitely going to have to check it out. Thanks again guys!

[@RobertLBarnard]

The Wen/Acne name thing was gross and funny! 😅 I looked into Wen a while ago because they seemed to make good tools at a good price. Turns out they're an old (established 1950 in Illinois by Nick Anton) American company who (like almost everybody else) has tools manufactured in China. One thing that really convinced me was seeing the difference between their small drill press and others. Not only is the casting thicker and beefier, there's a lot less play in the spindle/quill.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yes! Thank you for sharing. I've heard a lot of good things about their drill press and honestly wish I would have gotten a wen before I got my ryobi back in the day. Really appreciate you sharing the history and thanks for watching!

[@eggsngritstn]

For what it's worth, WEN is an American brand. Chicago area company since the 1950s or 60s.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks for watchign Eggsngritstn!

[@Alan_CFA]

This video came out today, Jan 25, 2025,, but the WEN Pocket Edge Ruler is out of stock everywhere-Amazon, Home Depot, Lowe’s, eBay, Walmart.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yeah, it was actually out of stock when I was making this video, unfortunately. I think I purchased it in December. Hopefully they will get more inventory soon. Thanks so much for watching Alan!

[@LordHog]

Sorry my friend, but I can't resist. Given the first suggested name and the size of the first tool, seems like the ladies are looking for something a bit bigger than what they can get? Keep up the great work. I am surprised Burt wasn't part of this video. Seems this would had been right up this ally.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! Thanks so much for watching as always LordHog! Burt wanted to be in this video so bad. I think he comes back next week. If not the following! :). Hope you had a great weekend!

[@dzannis2]

As others have said WEN is an American company and has been around since the 50's

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yep! You are correct, I believe most of the items are manufactured overseas though. :(. Thanks for watching dzannis2

[@smorgasbord42]

Aluminum tools have their place, but as rulers in a combination square they simply won't hold up over the years, not to mention that they're typically thicker than their steel counterparts.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I don't disagree Smorgasbord. I have a couple of woodpeckers squares that are aluminum and they have a few dents in them. Thanks so much for sharing and watching!

[@daviddura1172]

Ya gotta do What Ya gotta do

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

:) thanks so much for watching David!

[@darrenpowell8561]

Bet it's the pocket hole jig. I replaced mine with another brand

[@darrenpowell8561]

I had another version of the wen pocket hole jig that had issues. The exit hole was not centered when making a pocket hole and the screw heads when inserted were not below the material surface. Note, it looks like you lost weight

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Great point. Thanks so much for watching Darren!

[@darrenpowell8561]

My mistake, I tried the vevor one not the wen. Vevor one was crap.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@darrenpowell8561 No worries! I was wondering about that!

[@williamodom2580]

It’s not a ruler it’s a rule. A ruler is a king of a country.Lol

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! Love it, thanks for watching William!

[@ST-0311]

And a rule is a regulation of conduct. Straight edge marking tools with increments of measurement may be either a rule or a ruler depending on where the scale starts. A ruler has a Zero reference inset from the edge. A rule has no zero reference, and the scale starts at the edge. In this case you are correct, because the scale does in fact start at the edge. However, using the terms interchangeably is common. In calling it a ruler he didn't actually break a rule. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXWZqoSXjZaMfdE

[@scottmorris4914]

Did you contact Wen on the PH jig, maybe you go a bad one.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

I did contact them via amazon, I have not year heard back yet. Thanks so much for watching Scott!

[@Gazman299]

'Freedom Units' hahahahaaa

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! I get tired of saying imperial after a while! :). Thanks for watching Gazman!

[@ravensmill3927]

If no one else does it, I'm totally starting a tool company called Strap-On! I'll get strong female character actors from the 80's and 90's to be spokes people. One endorsement from Glenn Close or Sigourney Weaver and 50 something men will be lined up outside my shop and around the block!

[@ebonicmaser]

A little less gross and a lot more intriguing. I said the same thing when comparing my first two wives

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

OMG! I'm dying over here! Thanks for making me laugh this morning ebonicmaser!

[@napaeldoradoks6232]

Actually WEN is an American founded and headquartered company... and NOT Chinese. And like most tool companies they have products made all over the world. for WEN this includes, USA, china, Taiwan, and others

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

THanks for sharing Napaeldoradoks

[@Thomllama1]

Ummm.. just sliding over a square for parallel doesn’t show anything.. just means the ruler is machined faces are parallel. You need to flip the square to check it for actual square.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

That is not possible to do with a saddle square. Thanks for watching

[@Thomllama1]

@ then use something that can first, again, just sliding over shows nothing of value. Cool vid otherwise

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@Thomllama1 yeah, I always have people upset with testing for square when I do saddle squares. Point taken though and thanks again for watching.

[@jeffccr3620]

Need to update your links none of them are working

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Oh thank you so much for letting me know, let me check it out. Thanks so much for watching Jeffccr!

[@kelleysimonds5945]

Im sure we will find a better name but, wen?

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! They need one. Someone mentioned it's backwards for "new". I guess now it should be called Dlo!

[@gregorylay3333]

You are aware that WEN is an American company right? Yes the tools are made in China, but the company itself is American. WEN's headquarters can be found in West Dundee, Illinois.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yep, I am now. I guess I was initially confused. Thanks so much for sharing. If I would have said they were american made, people would have complained about them being made in china... Kind of a no win situation! :)

[@dougsoderberg-uh9fw]

how about skin tag , lol

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

haha! Just as good as Wen! Thanks so much for watching Doug!

[@blahahbly11]

Wen is an American company.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yes, based in Illinois. Thanks so much for watching.

[@RideTheropy]

Just an FYI, wen is an American based company. The name means "New", just spelled backwards. Standing for the innovative tech they have integrated into their tool lines. They are located in Illinois. Their tools are made from all over the world. From Taiwan to the United States. You should have done a tiny bit of research before making this video...

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks for watching. I am more focused on doing the research on the tools. The naming conventions were for entertainment purposes. Thanks for watching

[@dandelie2067]

Wen tools are cheap. Now you know why.😢

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Yep... For the most part I've been pleased, but every once in a while I think every tool has a dud! Thanks so much for watching as always dandelie!

[@MichaelYost-l8o]

Wen band saw is junk

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Thanks so much for sharing Michael! Really appreciate it. I have not had experience with it, but good to know. Thanks so much for watching!

[@themeat5053]

Dogg man, in Chinese, WEN means cheap crap.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Haha! :). Thanks as always for watching Meat! Hope you are keeping warm this weekend!

[@themeat5053]

@@FlynndoggWoodwork Painting a bathroom, it's nice and cozy in there. Thanks for the content and entertainment.

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@themeat5053 Hey that sounds like pretty laid back work! :).

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

In the category of 🌈✨fabulous lady woodworkers ✨🌸, I’ve been thinking recently about ways we each “perform” our gender, and in my case I’m pretty dang girly, I wear exclusively skirts and mostly super bright colors, I love pink and purple… AND ALSO… I’ve never worn makeup outside of Halloween, I’ve never worn high heels for more than five minutes, and I own two table saws and just one janky, falling apart, twenty year old hairbrush (priorities ☺️🪚)! Anybody out there who wants everyone to stick to super rigid gender roles is MISSING OUT on so much fun and I feel bad for them!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

Totally agree! My son's favorite color is pink actually! Love having some ladies watch this channel! Thanks so much for watching as always Stellabelikiewicz!

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

@ there’s a great episode of The Moth from a billion years ago in which one of the storytellers is tasked with finding a pink bike for his son (which turns out to be surprisingly hard if you don’t want something specifically branded, just a plain pink bike), and he’s having some existential feelings about this pink bike, and he ends up realizing that the problem is not the pink bike per se, but an unexpected wave of nostalgia trying to take control of the situation: it’s not that James doesn’t want his son to have a pink bike, it’s that he wants Oliver to have a RED bike, “LIKE I HAD”! I love the idea that even parents who are deeply committed to raising kids who are their own people, and never forcing them into some kind of predetermined mold, will inevitably run up against these moments where they just want their kid to step in and fulfill a long held dream of what having a kid would be like, JUST THIS ONCE 😆!

[@FlynndoggWoodwork]

@@stellabelikiewicz1523 My son, the one who likes pink really doesn't seem to think it is a "girls" color. Which is great actually. A boy in my day would have been made fun of for saying such a thing, but it's nice and refreshing to see that kids (at least the ones my son hangs out with) don't seem to care as much about that sort of stuff. I'm quite open minded about all of that stuff, and just want everyone to be themselves and be happy!

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

@ I love the idea of a kiddo who loves pink not having to worry about what hi friends will think! Good on everyone in this situation!