We describe what compression lift is, and how to go faster using it. Flyout Discord (JOIN FOR MORE INFO ON GAME): / discord [Join my discord!]: / discord Twitch: / messier82ap
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@beeengineer11 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, the other day, I was reading a book about the B-70 and I thought "why hasn't there ever been another plane like it. When I get flyout, I want to make one.".
@anunax11 ай бұрын
I mean, Sotka was a thing
@Whetfaartz111 ай бұрын
@@anunax but the idea didnt take off because of ICBMs.
@szalonakozaone11oneone6511 ай бұрын
@@anunax When the droop nose of the T-4 is lowered it reminds me of some kind of railcar or a tram lol.
@avi8aviate11 ай бұрын
@@Whetfaartz1 Pun intended?
@Whetfaartz111 ай бұрын
@@avi8aviate yes.
@crowbarjones551611 ай бұрын
Messier should do more ambitious projects like making a jet that can go Mach 10 to show that the game can handle it
@bendover129211 ай бұрын
I agree. I fancy something like a nuclear powered hydroplane kinda like a Sr-71/PBY-5 mix.
@akidafloof11 ай бұрын
"The compression lift guy" I see his name and I just almost choke on my food
@vincentmays829711 ай бұрын
I know right
@ch4.hayabusa11 ай бұрын
For anyone looking... the username of compression guy, is roughly asubiteru
@akidafloof10 ай бұрын
@@ch4.hayabusa 7:50
@robynhiggs437911 ай бұрын
love the fact that Messier said "Cant say name one youtube" Then proceeds to put up a picture of it. Perfect
@juan_h_fernandez8211 ай бұрын
I'm excited for a mapping and cartography series, especially when we're cruising across the map at Mach 3. The Flyout Journeymens.
@russellwen141011 ай бұрын
I had a Tu-144 clone (mini Tu-144) instead of an XB70, and with ramjets at mach 4 and 30km it was able to get a lift to drag of 10. The canards were very similar to yours but only acted as trim and flaps.
@Louis_Roper11 ай бұрын
Also bro turned into a scientist in this one 😂 👨🔬
@arlosolomon620411 ай бұрын
Love your videos, I just wanted to say I think a cool video idea would be to give yourself like 30min or whatever amount of time it would take to make a sort of rushed plane and sorta see how well it performs. Sorta seems like a dumb idea now I've typed it.
@arlosolomon620411 ай бұрын
I say sorta a lil bit too much lmao
@Louis_Roper11 ай бұрын
No that’s a cool idea 👍
@messier82ac11 ай бұрын
Not dumb whatsoever, that actually sounds kind of fun, especially for a quicker video
@carlosevfaj11 ай бұрын
It is, but this is the internet, dumb shit still gets a lot of views.
@doomguy98711 ай бұрын
@@messier82ac flyout speedrun
@joshuatidy-bl9ue11 ай бұрын
That plane is gotta be based on the XB-70
@Louis_Roper11 ай бұрын
It is lol
@lucasboyd101211 ай бұрын
@@Louis_Roper r/whooosh
@ltcuddles68511 ай бұрын
@@lucasboyd1012 if there is a joke here its not well put lol
@yodakin18711 ай бұрын
nah, i don't think so
@Heymoss6911 ай бұрын
Did you not watch the whole video
@jocax18872311 ай бұрын
It looks like a Valkyrie and a Tu-144 had a baby. Pretty cool!
@nekdonikde531711 ай бұрын
TuB-214 Valkyrski ?
@gogofuntime_yt11 ай бұрын
I have a plan suggestion! Since you love twin booms so much, why dont you build a replica of the Matchbox "Twin Boom" jet in flyout? I think it might be an interesting challenge.
@eekee603410 ай бұрын
That is one cute plane without being an overly silly kind of cute; it's good.
@lordjoshlarga296711 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: As of now no-one has finished this video. posted ~10 mins after upload (assuming playback speed is 1x)
@thetrailerguy40411 ай бұрын
This game is so cool the custom airfield mechanic is so amazing ! Also I love how you get videos out this often you must be working you're ass off. Stay productive, farwell and congratulation from France 👏
@lemanbest735611 ай бұрын
Can not wait for this series, it’s going to be fun seeing the fly-out world. Keep up the amazing work. :)
@Louis_Roper11 ай бұрын
*ALSO OMG THE CAT BO OR BAEU HOWEVER U SAY HIS NAME I NOW LOVE HIM HOW U SAID HIS NAME WAS ADORABLE*
@vincentmays829711 ай бұрын
Compression lift guy is a whole mood. Also do you know if the nightstar liquid engine tho ram jet engine could be modeled in flyout?
@planecrazybelike650510 ай бұрын
his youtube channel is moldyspoon
@aguywhothinks11 ай бұрын
When I get flyout, I'm definitely going to build my own off-brand XB-70 so my friends don't bully me and the community doesn't shun me.
@yerp155411 ай бұрын
somehow i always catch these videos within like 30 mins no matter what time of day theyre posted its like magic
@gopniksaurolophus635411 ай бұрын
Messier forgets he's a flight sim/build-it KZbinr and talks fluid dynamics (I learned several things watching this video)
@RavenWolffe7711 ай бұрын
Since you love Twin-Booms, I would like to suggest a P-61 Air Defense Fighter-esque PropPunk aircraft, with 1960s/70s/80s stylings, turboprop engines, and missiles. I love the P-61 ADF, it looks so cool, and I'd love to see a "modernized" adaptation of the general design layout.
@Streaky10000111 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'd never heard of compression lift before, and I always wondered why some jets like the XB-70 and others had that sharp downturn at the end of the wing. Once you explained it, it made total sense.
@rojnx911 ай бұрын
I find the "Everyone builds an XB-70" really funny, because Plane Crazy, another building game, has the exact same thing with the F/A-18 Hornet. There is a strong focus from the community on Air to Air combat in between players, and everyone ALWAYS recreates cold war fighter jets. It is either a Hornet or rarely a MiG-29 as one of the first good planes people build.
@eekee603410 ай бұрын
"Secret valleys" -- those completely surrounded by mountains -- were places I loved to find in KSP too. :) I used to fly around the home planet looking for them and still have a list of their coordinates along with other beautiful places. I never did figure out how to make new launchsites in KSP without a mod. The game has this strange mix of plain-text and binary configuration. Perhaps it intentionally makes launchsite configuration hard to find because launchsites are added by its paid DLC. The mission builder added by that same DLC allows you to specify launch sites, but it was incredibly buggy when I last tried it. I play Juno now; you can make a new launchsite at your current vehicle's location at the click of a button, but I haven't tried it yet. Ohh, finding where you are can be fun! That's really cool you did it with bearings from just a few provided locations. :) KSP isn't so tough but isn't entirely easy: your vehicle has to stop on a surface before it'll show you coordinates. I tried to make VTOL planes for this, but I wanted VTOL + high speed + long range + science equipment and/or a deployable rover. As usual, my ambition exceeded my ability. High speed itself is easy in KSP due to the relatively simple simulation, but the fuel load to support high speed and long range isn't so easy to design for. I ended up using an infinite fuel cheat with a small, relatively STOL SSTO and omitted the science gear. (Note that an SSTO for Kerbin can be far smaller than one for Earth.) I've been dreaming of an XB-70 inspired air-launch vehicle or even SSTO :) I learned about it a couple of weeks ago and the idea was obvious if you're crazy like me. ;) Ooh ooh ooh hypersonic liveaboard YES! :D _Sweet_ cinematic!👌I changed my room lighting for the best viewing experience; it was worth it! :D
@judet299211 ай бұрын
Aww, the baby B-70 is adorable!
@Yarnk711 ай бұрын
cant wait till flyout comes out
@Vacxt11 ай бұрын
Yes u can
@Yarnk711 ай бұрын
@@Vacxt bro... it was a figure of speech 💀
@Vacxt11 ай бұрын
@@Yarnk7 I know
@badpeoplearebad393411 ай бұрын
Make a forward-swept swing wing. This will allow you to actively adjust your center of pressure, and could make a cool aircraft.
@Louis_Roper11 ай бұрын
Omg I love all your videos I have no idea how you make so many so quickly!!!!! ❤
@messier82ac11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! Thank you
@CallMeBrookes377311 ай бұрын
It would be great to have a cinematic compilation of your creations!
@leonardowilian424411 ай бұрын
Any day is a good day when your XB-70 ripoff doesn't get a smack from a F-103 ripoff during a photo session
@_-LeChaos-_6 ай бұрын
Funny becouse i love the XB-70 and you make similiar thing to the Valkryie. While getting ideas from the real plane you make your own. Huge respect from bulgaria
@darkdankz11 ай бұрын
7:48 such a shame KZbin won’t allow such a beautiful name. 😔
@TheRealGamada11 ай бұрын
I gotta say : the thumbnail looks dope. I love your plane too as well as your content. Keep it up !
@joecrisp90609 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the wingtips I thought " looks like the Valkyrie. Awesome build.
@jackvearncombe989211 ай бұрын
Hi M82, been watching every video for a while. The time-lapses are normally great but this one was really fast, it was making me feel a bit sick haha.
@TheThirdTwin11 ай бұрын
yes, I do want to see a swing wing. The mig 23/27 are also cool examples.
@carlosevfaj11 ай бұрын
I've been experimenting with High AOA designs, after playing a shit ton on war thunder, my fav planes are the ki-43 family and now the n1k2-j , theses planes have a different wing design where it has a triangle chape after the wing, to create a flying body, and in the game it really shows how tighter it can turn, and I'm trying it on symple planes, and it works the same way, I even tried duplicating as a double triangle, in the front an back, and having a skinny wing, it works too in game but not having the front of the wing flat reduce a bunch of lift, If anyday you decide to do a hign AOA design, I will just love it, you build quality is amazing, I only wish you put more flying time in the end for us enjoyers.
@thunder_war11 ай бұрын
Push notification gang
@user-pk3eo6pq6m10 ай бұрын
Compression lift guy really came in clutch 💪
@TheGrace02011 ай бұрын
Its so beautiful 🥺
@michaelgooding375011 ай бұрын
Is thrust vectoring modeled in Flyout? You should totally build the talon from the movie Stealth. Also, the F-14 is a must
@Fogishere11 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k!!!!!
@messier82ac11 ай бұрын
🎉
@Heiryuu7 ай бұрын
Reminds me very much of an aircraft from the cover of a Tom Swift Book which makes sense since a bunch of the aircraft and inventions in his books were based off of up and coming scientific breakthroughs and theories of their eras.
@davidaugustofc257411 ай бұрын
Alright, so I was completely not bothered by any explanation of Supersonic lift generation, but since I study subsonic lift so much (even tho they're different), I decided to look into it at 7:20. Lift generated by any aircraft could be described as "Newton happening on fluids", but people immediatly come to the conclusion the plane is pushing air down, since air is very light that would be a meaningless effort, you'd need to push air very fast (like an engine) for it to work. Air does have a very powerful static pressure, so we use that as the majority of lift generation. If static pressure didn't exist, the flow would get pushed away by the leading edge, but since the surface cannot pull the air back that would simply leave 2 vacuums on the airfoil, the top one being much bigger than the bottom one, what that means is that the air expands much further on top (more distant molecules mean lower pressure), the air on the bottom still applying pressure on all directions but there's no equal pressure on top so the resultant is upwards. For supersonic airflow the air is compressed to the point it behaves like it was a denser fluid, so it makes sense to further increase the pressure on the bottom, the intakes are positioned in the bottom as to create 2 oblique waves that follow the sweet angle of the wing that makes it so that a large part of the high shockwave pressure is pushing up on the aircraft, and since the wave angle changes with mach speed no aircraft can be optimized to cruise at every speed, not even every supersonic speed. Again the low pressure top is created by the fan/expansion zones on top of the wings, sometimes on top of the whole aircraft in lifting body designs. "The second part of compression lift is now addressed. This is trapping the oblique shock's. The XB-70 did it by folding its wingtips downward. They called it the reflected shock effect (FIG. 6 of Paper 650798, Society of Automotive Engineers (“SAE”), also in bound SAE Transactions, Vol. 74, 1966, page 604; Call Number TL1.S6.)" The keel on the XB-70 was there to trap the shockwaves under the wings for as long as possible, which is a genius idea if I'm being honest. There is some compression-lift patents on Google Patents that I found weird, but also very interesting. There's no amount of words in an KZbin comment that could fully explain the effect either, but I do recomend books for those interested, loads of books and research papers.
@TheEnergizingbunny11 ай бұрын
The Flyout Rite of Passage: "To be a true Flyout player, you must make an XB-70 ripoff."
@cx_2e31311 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind if he makes a bit longer vids showing the building, interior design and all that stuff while after showing a test flight and cinematic. Idk how others feel abt this though, just a suggestion
@pyakh111 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I already know it’s gonna be a banger as always. I wanted to ask though, are you an engineer or just a big fan of aviation? You seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff so I got curious
@Pickledog200511 ай бұрын
4:06 mins blown!!! Great vid messier
@anomalyfox518611 ай бұрын
I’m going mental waiting for the release of flyout, I have a solid 5 pages of ideas for aircraft written down already!
@ThatBudgetGamer11 ай бұрын
This may be an odd request, but can you try to make the most efficient airliner you can make while still having travel times similar to current airplanes? A larger build keeping with realistic constraints and also thinking about the future would be really interesting
@EhmedCousCous11 ай бұрын
He should try the nasa wing experiment
@DrFumiya9 ай бұрын
The thumbnail looks like the moon grew a pair of teeth.
@gohunt001-511 ай бұрын
Oh hey, i've talked to "compression lift guy" a few times in the Project Wingman server, the guy does seem to know his stuff!
@Brav0611 ай бұрын
Its a good day when messier uploads
@pontuswendt248611 ай бұрын
AMAZINGNES!!!
@mustang191211 ай бұрын
Amazing plane.
@sturmgeschutze307011 ай бұрын
Similarly to the XB-70, is it possible to build an aircraft like Concorde? Mach 2+ in supercruise
@desertdesmond673611 ай бұрын
"his name isn't appropiate for youtube, "Assbeater" i laughed.
@titan4273711 ай бұрын
You are really smart when it comes to aircraft
@ClayishWall11 ай бұрын
Honestly it’d be cooler if they never add a map and add ingame support for making airports. Many games these days are lacking blind exploration
@bleudie17311 ай бұрын
Dude, i don't know how you did it, but you had a semi-viral video, then you managed to keep the veiwers and you make such good videos your still getting veiws
@MarcelPlays11 ай бұрын
Cant wait for this game to release. I wanna build crippled planes
@its2three410 ай бұрын
"since his name isn't appropriate for youtube" hmm wonder what his name is >messier 82 has got my back and immediately shows a screenshot good man
@aabumble995411 ай бұрын
Good video. Could you please make a concord type of plane? EDIT: Nice Concordski.
@Caosthereal7 ай бұрын
i love this game
@Eis_11 ай бұрын
Knowing the naming conventions of some engineers, I wouldn't be surprised if -assbeater- Compression Lift guy is an actual engineer.
@byaafacehead9 ай бұрын
Would you ever just do a video on Flyout, as a general overview? Builds are awesome btw!
@adastra793911 ай бұрын
Can you go at hypersonic speeds in Flyout?
@flamingpotato890611 ай бұрын
make a "twin boom" with a max speed barely over mach, so you can make "twin booms"
@Enderking39410 ай бұрын
I like the XB-70 Valkyrie style
@RossAviationlovesthef1611 ай бұрын
Did you have xb 70 inspiration because this plane you build reminds me of that airplane
@bajablaster110 ай бұрын
I made one on kerbal but, man I need this game
@nytrol272011 ай бұрын
NOISE
@haydnw86911 ай бұрын
Hey Messier 82 could you build or tell me your thoughts on (as well as anyone else) a b52 but made with today’s technology. I’d imagine it would be something like the the size of the 747 with the tech of the 787. Just imagine the payload and range increase. Edit: especially the increase in reliability and ease of maintenance, I don’t know about you but the three things I love most in any vehicle and aircraft is reliability, efficiency and ease of maintenance.
@themonkeyman254711 ай бұрын
This is interesting because wow, the B52 is insanely old. A modern long range bomber could be a titanic upgrade, but I guess there isn’t much reason to build one. The 8 Pratt & Whitney JT3D engines from 1958 together produce 136,000 lbs thrust. A single modern GE GE9X engine produces 110,000 lbs thrust. Switching to just two of those would nearly double the thrust, add only 3% dry weight, and consume 60% less fuel per unit thrust. Obviously there’s more to it than simply swapping engines, but it’s shocking the difference it could make. The 787 Dreamliner can carry about 50% more payload, for a similar range. Unfortunately, the TSA won’t let me try its bomb bay door.
@haydnw86911 ай бұрын
@@themonkeyman2547 I know right, it probably won’t happen because it would cost a bunch and the US doesn’t need the b52 upgraded right now but if the b52 is so proven then a modernised b53 would be sooo much better, especially for the maintainers and to increase readiness rates
@eiomoimoi11 ай бұрын
the thing i have wondered about the compression lift folding wing thing is how it will affect the vortex at the end of the wing
@bei.-.o11 ай бұрын
Oh cool!
@lazzie749511 ай бұрын
What song did you use at the end?
@macbeatmaker58311 ай бұрын
🔥
@AstroK3210 ай бұрын
Beautiful! I’m sure you’ve heard this already but area rule is important. Idk if flyout models it but eh
@messier82ac10 ай бұрын
Very True! Flyout does model area rule, which I did not go over in this video unfortunately.
@mattismeyer332211 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@Hen334911 ай бұрын
if you make a swing wing plane you should try the Ai thing again and see if it can make something like that I think that might wield an interesting design. P.S. Nice plane especially the cockpit looks like something from a spaceship in like no mans sky or something :3
@danielshapiro716911 ай бұрын
Question: does Flyout offer you a way of visualizing your aircraft's 'area projection' as you build it? You gave a decent high-level explanation of what 'wave drag' is, and I'm sure saying "Sears Haack Shape" would have gone over most of your viewers' heads, but considering how powerful the 3D drawing tools seem to be I'd be surprised if that wasn't available to you. I know showing how every tweak of the wings and fuselage impacted how close or far your airplane was from the ideal 'spindle' would go a very long way towards showing the audience what exactly "Area Ruling" means... (Oh, and I'm sure your flip-out canards gave the Tu-144 designers - wherever they are - smiles...) :-P
@th3darkgem56611 ай бұрын
Really cool plane and stuff, but I'm confused to why do you split a single intake pipe into two engines, and why are the intake pipes (chutes?) so long? Also maybe you could've made it four ramp intakes facing down instead of each other?
@nolol990711 ай бұрын
do you plan on streaming some exploration?
@maxmachac975611 ай бұрын
Oh nonono, no F-14. If you want a propper swing-wing, and i mean a PROPPER swing-wing, make the Boeing 2707-400 SST ;D
@ALiteralWalll11 ай бұрын
I’m gonna go feral, I NEED this game so bad!!!
@jardgaming732111 ай бұрын
What about making the largest/most powerful engine fly out will let you make and build a plane designed around it to make it go as fast as possible
@Zika0-011 ай бұрын
Makes me think of the XB-70 and the SR-71
@kathrynck9 ай бұрын
I actually have a question regarding the compression lift, something I've always wondered about the XB-70... When you reach a speed where the SS shockwave can reach the wingtips, and they fold down to start generating compression lift... given that they're very far aft on the airframe, how do you maintain "balance" with a bunch of new lift coming from behind the center of gravity?
@Jo-rz6bs7 ай бұрын
Canard :)
@kathrynck7 ай бұрын
@@Jo-rz6bs So you just balance it out with even more lift, and just go as high as can be. ok. could run into flame-out though... i guess it depends on which weakens faster, the gasping compressor stage or the external lift. Or I suppose just cant the wingtips less... hehe.
@EggSaladSammich3 ай бұрын
12:45 didnt you make a swing wing in the nuclear fighter video?
@heartlessgaming225011 ай бұрын
Are there any games that are similar to Flyout but for Ships and/or Tanks/vehicles (a game for each type)?
@LordPastaProductions11 ай бұрын
looking at the shots of the plane with the moon, I wonder if the moon is actually modeled.
@typo913811 ай бұрын
i would love to see this with a few ramjets too
@Rafi508611 ай бұрын
Can you try to do the flying aircraft carrière of the shield in Avenger ?
@ishmowo3 ай бұрын
how do you turn on that setting that does this? 0.08
@Orthumeuel240811 ай бұрын
What I would love to see is something completly different ie not looking like a real life plane. Go nuts
@ttpechon253511 ай бұрын
That ending scene was absolutely amazing Also, how did you find that last song, Overdrive? Some guys can just find amazing obscure songs that most people would not have found.
@messier82ac11 ай бұрын
Hey! I do a lot of searching for music over copyright-free youtube, sometimes I spend hours trying to find the right songs for each of my builds (when I am not feeling lazy). I just happened to stumble across the artist while working on my 10 gallon challenge vid.
@ttpechon253511 ай бұрын
@@messier82ac Jeeze! Well thanks for your above and beyond effort at putting original songs in your vids! And not the same 3 songs everyone uses.
@botgermit5211 ай бұрын
can you mace an airial refuler?
@thomaszupan630810 ай бұрын
So what about the fighter counterpart to it the F-106?
@idorenyinetokakpan699710 ай бұрын
2:26 Can you make another quiet supersonic plane, BUT with a delta wing design and like a darkstar looking intake
@craigbrewer4337 ай бұрын
Gives a little bit of "Firefox" vibes.
@antoncabotta536411 ай бұрын
What's the scale of the flyout planet? Is it smaller than Earth?