Flysky FTr10 - New AFHDS3 airplane receiver with Telemetry - How-to & Test-Flight

How to & test of the new AFHDS3 airplane receiver from Flysky
The PL18 Paladin radio: bit.ly/2lP4gam
The FTr10 receiver: www.banggood.c...
The Volantex ASW28 glider flown in the video:
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Equipent I use:
FlySky PL18 Paladin: bit.ly/2lP4gam
FrSky Taranis X-Lite Pro: bit.ly/2mbDhWr
SkyZone Sky03 Oled FPV Goggle: bit.ly/2lXXwac
Indoors camera: Canon 5D mkIII
Lens: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Outdoors camera's:
SJcam SJ8 Pro: goo.gl/uXCXnR
Runcam 3 cube
Runcam 2: goo.gl/jFSY2W
Tools:
Mustool MT826 Multimeter: goo.gl/t7UwWi
TS100 portable soldering iron: goo.gl/3w8oCk
ToolCraft ST-100D soldering station
Steinel Gluematic 3002 hotglue gun
several Dremel's
My Instagram page:
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[@DutchRC]

How to & test of the new AFHDS3 airplane receiver from Flysky The PL18 Paladin radio: bit.ly/2lP4gam The FTr10 receiver: www.banggood.com/FlySky-FTr10-2_4G-10CH-AFHDS-3-RC-Receiver-Support-i-BUSS-BUSPPM-Output-for-RC-Drone-p-1623734.html?p=TO251813974002015038

[@yngve6640]

Hello from Norway. I am a new RC plane pilot,with zero flight time. I have bought both the Paladin and the ASW28. And the Ranger 2000 Volantex.I am now putting the planes togheter,ready to take off. The weather here is very cold and strong wind,so i must waith for calm conditions. I am in fear about the first flight, hoping not to crash and total destroying the planes. It was fun to see your video,using the same radio and plane.

[@DutchRC]

Hi there up there in Norway :) How are things with the you know what debacle over there? And welcome to the hobby ofcourse! I will give you one piece of important advice: before trying to fly any RC, accept you are probably going to crash it.. if not now, most likely at Some point... That is not to strip you of hope.. just make the experience more relaxing (you have already accepted losing it).. For first launches it can be especially handy to have someone else Throw the plane.. (I make things look easy).. Having said that: planes like the Ranger are the best kinds of planes to start out with :) AND thank you! Glad you liked the video :) (I have a video on the Ranger 1600 somewhere as well ;))

[@mikesrccorner]

Cool video buddy! I enjoyed the flight footage, that glider plane flies very well and the video was great. Looks like you got lots of rain water on the fields... we had that last week here. Cheers buddy :-)

[@DutchRC]

Thanks brother :) lots of rain for sure yes! ;) We've had rain most days for a month :O But yes.. very nice flyer this glider.. Very easy to fly (I think :P) Cheers & thanks for stopping by!

[@satorrotas]

Excellent video, very test flight with this new receiver .

[@DutchRC]

Thank you very much as allways Pascal! :) Highly appreciated sir :)

[@satorrotas]

@@DutchRC 😊👍

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying and review, dude! 😃 The receiver looks pretty good!!!

[@DutchRC]

Thank you very much as allways brother :) yes.. I do hope there will be smaller (4 - 6 channel) receivers for the radio soon, but this one works as advertised ;)

[@MCsCreations]

@@DutchRC Hey, changing the subject a bit... Take a look at the picture I posted in my community tab yesterday! 😃 That was from a flight yesterday... And I'm going to fly there again in a few minutes! It's around 300m from my house! 😃

[@DutchRC]

@@MCsCreations Grrrrrr! :P That looks gorgeous man :D

[@MCsCreations]

@@DutchRC Thanks, dude!!! 😃

[@DutchRC]

@@MCsCreations :) Soooooo?? how did the flying work out then? :)

[@4thGloryMonday]

as always great vid mr dutch!

[@DutchRC]

Thank you very much sir :) I appreciate that

[@roadkill4twenty]

Thank you for the information, I really enjoy your videos! I'm still very new to the hobby and one thing that I've noticed with just about every part that I have purchased for my drone build comes with very little instructions if any at all. And the instructions that do come with it are often rather vague don't tell you enough. I recently purchased the PL18 tx and I'm trying to get it all set up properly and it's been a challenge to say the least. But the radio TX came with 2 receivers, the FTr10 and FTr16s and I was wondering if you know if they can work together with one of them set up as a PWM converter?

[@DutchRC]

Howdy! thank you very much ofcourse and welcome to the hobby :) you are Correct.. good manual are few & far between.. With the level of English of our Chinese friends I suspect they actually do us a favour by not making manuals :P And: writing manuals costs money..... Most any radio does coming with a learing curve (at least the ones I've had) but at least in the case of the PL18 it is wurth the time :) Sooooo you want to use both receivers in one airplane? That is possible yes.. it would not be like you then have 26 channels though :$ But other then that, you can use 2 receivers at the same time IF... you don't need telemetry..... that is the thing you will lose when using more then one receiver at a time...

[@IanF-FPV]

FlySky uses diopole antennas with a copper barrel for most of their diversity receivers. Increases range for sure.

[@DutchRC]

Yes.. confidence inspiring.. that's what That is :)

[@gamaxgbg]

I wonder if the Nirvana will have AFHDS-3 someday... I may be wrong, but i remember seeing something related back in the day the Nirvana was released to the market, before the Paladin was even announced. Maybe I'm just crazy lol.

[@DutchRC]

I always wondered why the Nirvana does Not run on that protocol (the Noble radio isn't all that much newer and allso part of their new higher-quality family of radio's).. It should actually be possible to replace the internal module of the Nirvana :) so who knows.. maybe there will be a conversion kit at some point :)

[@IanF-FPV]

Afhds 2a already has OTA updating. I used it when there were fw updates for my I-10 radio .

[@DutchRC]

Check.. thanks for the heads up man :)

[@Sp3ktral22]

What is OTA?

[@IanF-FPV]

@@Sp3ktral22 Over The Air Updating. No need to connect any wires to update the fw of the receivers.

[@Sp3ktral22]

Thanks for the review Dutch. I would definitely like to see a review even a desktop review of any Flysky sensors, do they do a Vario sensor? I'm very tempted by this PL18 radio as it looks so much more easy to use than OpenTX firmware.

[@DutchRC]

the radio IS very much easier to use.. And yes, I do a have a few flysky sensors here. So I will probably do a video about them :)

[@DutchRC]

ps: the vario might actually be that one sensor I Don't have :P

[@livingthedream2221]

Hello, Thankyou for the information. I have just bought a Paladin PL18 and want to use the full 16 channels. The instructions show how to wire up the FTR16S, but not how to wire it into anything after that. Does it somehow hook into the servo plug area on the FTR10? Then is it the same and as simple as setting up the aux channels 5 - 10? Apologies, I am a novice in this area and any advice appreciated.

[@DutchRC]

Howdy :) Wellllllll here is the deal: that FTR10 is a 10-channel receiver right? BUT the iBus portcan in fact output all channels.. you could make use of that with a Sbus to PWM converter board.. So that is then the Receiver end.. on the transmitter end there really are All kinds of ways to actually adress those channels.. With mixes.. special features (such as flaps / airbrakes).. or indeed manual setup of Aux channels :)

[@scotabot7826]

Are you saying the antenna's must be placed on the outside of the aircraft to get proper reception? I have never heard of that from any radio mfg'er, except when using a carbon fuselage. I was interested in trying this radio until you made that comment. Please verify. Thanks

[@DutchRC]

Howdy :) that comment is not specifically about This radio.. There are several materials that will adversely affect reception.. Wood.. Carbon fiber.. metals.. anything with moisture in it.. Apart from that however you will want to place the antenna as far away from wires (servo wires for instance) and the flight battery..

[@parkjetid]

is it possible in the PL18 transmitter to save and transmit the sensor data via USB to Windows PC during flight as plain text , for example GPS coordinates or altitude measures or battery voltage

[@40rtyp]

Great video!!! So with the 301 module the radio comes with it should be low latency(5ms). How precise did it feel with low latency? Or did it feel like any other radio? Was the signal good at all times during the flight? Any telemetry used?

[@DutchRC]

This setup (the PL18 with AFHDS3 module) is the fastest / most responsive setups I've used. I would say it is probably the same or faster as Futaba FASSTest setups.. Yes for FPV drones you automatically get all kinds of telemetry from your quad.. With a receiver like the FTr10 you would have to add extra sensors :)

[@ruimessias1302]

Hi DutchMan, the Sbus and Ibus have the same protocols as Futuba Sbus? Thank you and keep up the amazing reviews....

[@DutchRC]

Welllll.. Only Sbus ofcourse.. Ibus is very different.. But if you set this Flysky system up as SBus it will be understood by systems that expect Futaba SBus (like flight controllers / stabelisers) Cheers and happy flying! :)

[@ruimessias1302]

@@DutchRC Thank you mate and all the best.

[@nickvledder]

Nice landing! Would this soarer be suited also for crow-landing? Flaps down, aelerons up.

[@DutchRC]

Thank you :) mild crow will work on this bird yes, but well.. from the looks of it, it isn't really needed? It does not need as much space to land as that Phoenix 2000 (you remember that? :P)

[@Sp3ktral22]

Can crow flaps be set up on the Paladin?

[@667Gurba]

I use this receiver with my Flysky NB4 transmitter in my Traxxas TRX-6 truck. 🙂

[@DutchRC]

that will work Great :) that will give you several times the range you could ever want ;)

[@667Gurba]

I use it since the TRX-6 needs 5 channels. 🙂

[@kayceeellis1503]

Hi bro can you make a KZbin vid on how to connect to fly sky nb4 thank you

[@pierauspitz]

Hello! Voltage sensor CVT-01 and altitude sensor CAT-01 (a bit trickier to find) are, IMHO, the most useful to fly winged aircrafts. I am very curious to know if the PL-18 has a vario function.

[@DutchRC]

Howdy :) Yes the PL18 indeed has a vario feature.. Can't test it myself, but I guess it was important to them as the feature was there since early beta's...

[@pierauspitz]

​@@DutchRC That's great! And Flysky telemetry sensors are very cheap as well ( can find battery voltage for 3-4€, the altitude sensor is about 7-8€), but they do not have current draw sensor (maybe one day?) It seems full of potential for glider and plane pilots! I am very curious to see a side-by-side with a x9D a Horus 10 or a Jumper t16 for exemple... However, there are some things that bother me about the Paladin: -Not retaining native afhds2a compatibility. I know progress is progress, but this seems like a very bad strategic mistake. This protocol became quite a world standard, nearly everyone has (or has had) afhds2a gear. The receivers are excellent, have perfectly adequate range for 99,99% of flying (LOS), abundant (by types, form factor and numbers) and low priced. This is issue compounded by the very poor offering of afhds3 receivers, especially PWM types (so for winged aircraft flyers) and their low availability, even today. And the super long range is a completely irrelevant, considering the current EU regulations, where most flying is, by law, LOS (even FPV requires an observer with LOS on the aircraft). -the proprietary module bay is also an enigma/bad move, especially when there are no other modules than the afhds3 for sale. And the clumsy module bay adapter isn't available anyway. -Staying away from Open TX. This is the biggest mistake yet. The current firmware might be very good, but you do not turn your back to an industry standard, especially when the reputation of your gear still needs to be established in this tier of RC equipment. I love the look of this radio. I really am interested in the hardware quality and the potential it has, but the 3 issues above are , for the time being, deal-breakers to me. Buying the Paladin is buying into a whole new system, but a poorly supported and "gimmicky" one (its selling points are actually niche applications that 90% of potential customers will never use). In this case, why not going for the better reputed, better supported and similarly priced Frsky or Jumper?

[@DutchRC]

@@pierauspitz Because at least Frsky is a horrible company that will screw you over ? :D and the radio electronics of Frsky are so-so at best.. I agree though Flysky has made some weird choices though I'm sure they had their reasons.. I actually have a module-bay for my PL18 by the way :D but.. I don't use it.. they should have (indeed) made a AFHDS2 micro-module.. I understand why they didn't, but it would have been nice.. ON that why: they make hardly any $$ on the transmitter.. maybe they even sell it at a loss.. (don't know).. so the money has to be made on the receivers.. Well guess what? loads of clone AFHDS2 receivers around.. so that doesn't work either.. Still.. I very much like the speed of AFHDS3.. I don't need the range indeed.. but it does provide ease of mind..

[@pierauspitz]

​Dunno about FrSky being bad... Never heard anything bad about their gear, that tends to be universally lauded. As for customer service, it's a Chinese company... Caveat emptor (and as far as my experience goes, Flysky is far to be the greatest at customer service and gear support too). But I would be glad to hear more about the speed of AFHDS3, because the only info concerning it is that Flysky claims it to be faster, but without any hard evidence (ie numbers) to back that claim. More over, AFHDS2a was already pretty good, and a gain of 10-20 ms will not matter anyway as our brains can't process info that fast... It seems to me that there is a lot of pointless pissing contest with RC latency these days. Reminds me the TV pixel race... Oh well... To me, it looks more like afhds3 is a "FrSky Access" move, trying to regain exclusive control of a protocol at the expenses of long term customers. The "longer range and better speed" claims (because so far, this is only what they are) being just a facade. Call me cynical, but I am always weary of extravagant claims for things that simply don't matter. But I remain open-minded and am very curious to hear your point of view and informations on the matter. BHowever, please spare the "selling at a loss" story. It simply does not hold water. We are talking RC gear there, not Gilette razors. In an already quite saturated market, the volume of potential sales is simply not that large and very few people buy more than a handful of receivers anyway. And receivers are not really what you would call "consumables", so there is not much potential margin to recover losses... I may be wrong, but lower cost usually comes from R&D and components, and I am very curious to see a side by side tear down with a Horus and/or one of its clones (like the Jumper T16). I agree we all earn our money and do with it as we please, but I like when things are told without sugar coating or partisianism. Like many other current rc enthusiasts, I started with Flysky gear (afhds2a, FS-I6x) and am very satisfied with it (flying winged aircrafts and helis in line of sight). I would love to be able to use a higher quality transmitter now that I dipped a toe, and having only 3 linear mixes is starting to be too limiting. The Paladin seemed like a match made in heaven, BUT, AFHDS3 only... This is simply is too stupid! Instead of offering customers a possible progression via gradual upgrades, ensuring long term relationships, one has to completely re-equip (minus the sensors, but those cost peanuts anyway). If this is the only choice offered, going the "Taranis X9D SE w/ multiprotocol module" is a much safer and infinitely more flexible choice. All this for barely any more money and with much better support (parts availability, mod potential, constant improvement of firmware and a huge user community etc etc)...

[@hape4]

Hi there, Great flying with the Volantex / Flysky combination!! And the landing was spot on. I know from the Phoenix it’s quite difficult to drop it as it glides on and on, even with the flaps on. With this receiver I have hooked the Flysky voltage sensor FS-CVT01 and it works flawlessly. Simply hook it up in the appropriate PWM connection port of the receiver and it automatically reads out at the transmitter. You just push the sensor field on the screen of the transmitter and you will find all data there. Only the text letters are a bit small to read for me (reading glasses for me🤓). There is a 4ch receiver afhds3 protocoll receiver called FS-FGR4S but it’s for the Noble. Doesn’t that work on the Paladin ? I know it’s range is way less but for a small parkflyer might be enough.

[@DutchRC]

That's sir :) Yes.. there is an OLD video on my channel in which I *STRUGGLE* to get a Phoenix landed (on the same field by the way ;)) Thank you for that info! I will get myself a few of those :) YES.. I actually have such receivers for cars.. They are not intended for air-use (flysky the range is limited) buy maybe I should just try it? :$ Would be cool if those would be useable for LOS flying or what? :)

[@hape4]

@@DutchRC Yesss, I tried replying with a link to Aliexpress for the sensors but that was deleted it seems. That shop however send it really quick and the price was only a couple of euros, I bought a handful. For me it's always exciting to land to Phoenix, I have to fly over a fence and then land it in the grass field in front of my house. I really have to force it to the ground even with the flaps fully engaged. The 'noble' receiver it's intended for ground use of course and is stated with 200 mtrs range. Perhaps in an airplane it's much more but this could be tested with an El Cheapo small plane and checking the rssi signal?

[@hape4]

@@DutchRC the shop on Aliexpress is called UrlwallToy shop

[@DutchRC]

@@hape4 Thank you :) I see Hobbyking allso *HAD* these, and banggood has them.. I'll include some in my next order for sure :)

[@MrThefirm5]

Hi. i have to ask you i will like to have telematri and i don't know so much about it i see that there is someone who uses ELRS Receiver together with a Radio Master TGI 16 I think that is what it is called. the setup I would like to use is the following. Paladin PL18 FRM302 and some kind off receiver there do have telematri and this should be flysky can you please help me best regards David PS and this should be air airplanes and drone

[@DutchRC]

Hi there :) yes you will have telemetry using the flysky AFHDS3 system.. For that to work you would need to use a Flysky AFHDS3 radio AND a Flysky AFHDS3 receiver.. Or use a different system alltogether such as an ELRS setup.. For that to work you would need a ELRS radio (Radiomaster for instance) and a ELRS receiver (lost of options in that case).. Hope that helps!

[@aramvartanian6563]

i bought this receiver with the skyfly 10 channel transmitter from a guy at the rc expo and i have no idea how to connect them to each other. or even to my plane as a matter of fact. wish I had some help

[@DutchRC]

Howdy Aram.. there is ducumentation with the receiver but it is probably cryptic.. especially if you are new to the game :$ Binding with these Flysky receivers is: plug in the bind plug on the pin-headers of the receiver that indicate Bind.. Then power up the receiver.. And start binding in the radio (you will have to look at the radio's manual to see where / how to start binding)

[@pat6557]

does this receiver work for flysky ST8 radio?

[@DutchRC]

nope.. this receiver only works with AFHDS3 radio's.. the ST8 is an ANT protocol radio (and yes it is NOT great flysky introduced yet another protocol)

[@riz3nfpv306]

Can the plug be used to introduce stabilization via a fc ?

[@DutchRC]

basically that is completely possible with this receiver yes.. it would then "simply" be an iBus receiver with 1 servo-lead connected to the FC

[@teunlammers303]

Kun je niet een keer een zender of ontvanger van fatuba of graupner testen?

[@DutchRC]

Dat KAN en wellicht doe ik dat ook wel een keer.. de hoeveelheid $$ die ik hier in kan stoppen is uiteraard beperkt..

[@polta1408]

Zou je deze receiver ook kunnen gebruiken met de Noble NB4 en rc auto's?

[@DutchRC]

Yep.. beide (de PL18 & NB4) kunnen elkaars ontvangers gebruiken :)

[@swapnilsawant2083]

Which is the best flysky receiver..

[@DutchRC]

?? for what application ??

[@swapnilsawant2083]

@@DutchRC fpv drone..

[@DutchRC]

@@swapnilsawant2083 for sure the FTr16s receiver BUT.. in case you weren't aware of it: these are ALL AFHDS3 receivers..

[@swapnilsawant2083]

@@DutchRC ..thanks for your suggestion..appreciated..

[@DutchRC]

@@swapnilsawant2083 no problem man :) the range of that setup is enormous :)