FMS SU-27 Twin 70mm EDF Jet First Flights, Grass Ops & Setup Tips

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[@billshepard6664]

I bit on the J-11 livery... beauty.

[@tomfuller7401]

Cool Jet Rich. Love the burner lights.

[@RCINFORMER]

KMRC has the most simple & inexpensive burner kits available. They install fast with Zip Ties... Simple to install, setup & calibrate:)

[@RaGeRC]

What an absolute beauty! And great flying as always Rich! Well done sir! 👏 👏

[@jackdeasakorn8264]

Hi Richard and Steve my name is Jack Deasakorn I am one of the followers I am in Thailaand I alway look in your program pretty much and I justed bought three air craft from FMS 1500mm Maulee ,1400 T-28D TROJAN V4,300mm Aromatics Glider all of them come from your presentations also I got three more on order P51, Bearcat, F4U Corsair and perhaps SU-27 TWIN 70MM I residents in Thailand for my Retirement but I go back to Atlanta every so frequently about 3-4 times a year on the 5 Sept I just back from Atlanta looking forward to see you in Florida soon because I will have to go to Miami and Jacksonville in very near future to look in to some sea air craft for a Tourist business I would find some time to meet you Thank You ,you have been giving so much knowledge and answers all of us so Manny questions Thank a Million we all specifically over sea we are alw🎉 talk about you and share your VDO for all the flights Thank You again.

[@RCINFORMER]

Hey Jack! Thanks for the great comment! I work out of Atlanta every week. Just let me know when you are in the Orlando area:)

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Great flying Rich as always!! Looks really good, and love all the grass mods, thanks for sharing 👊🏼👊🏼

[@RCINFORMER]

Hey Jeff!

[@enzok6414]

Love the Su27 & J11! It's such a mean-looking Jet! I also found the nose strut being soft n my SU30. I just put a smaller 3mm OD spring inside the stock spring. That solves the problem.

[@reckemroysrc3764]

Beautiful flight RICH. That thing rocks 👍🏻👍🏻🤟🏼🤘

[@JP-ij6gf]

Fantastic Jet, tempted, only thing that lets it down is the flight time but beautiful jet, thanks Rich.

[@inthegameroompodcast]

Is this the same model that E-Flite offered as the SU-30?

[@RCINFORMER]

This one has slightly improved 1900kv motors.

[@jonoedwards4195]

Great review and flying outta sight. Thanks Rich.

[@RCINFORMER]

Jono!

[@EJ-74]

Beautiful 😍 bird Nice flying Rich 👍🏻 Nice camera work Steve 👍🏻✌🏻

[@mach9908]

Just Got a J-11!! Thanks for sharing Rich

[@RCINFORMER]

Thanks for using my links!

[@mach9908]

@@RCINFORMER Also Rich maybe you can try fly it with different elevator settings. I looked up the manual for J11 and Su27 online, and both of them said that elevator should align with the given mark. However, on Su30's manual, it says that it should be 2mm below the mark. It's interesting to see whether this will give a difference.

[@mikebird8290]

GOOD MORNING FROM ENGLAND SIR. WHAT A COOL LOOKING JET RICH. THANKS FOR SHARING THIS GREAT PLANE WITH US. TAKE CARE HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND SIR 🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼👍🏼

[@RCINFORMER]

Hey Mike!

[@reckemroysrc3764]

MIKE. Have a great weekend brother 🙏 😎 🤟🏼

[@mikebird8290]

THANKS ROY. I HOPE YOU ALSO HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND MY FRIEND. TAKE CARE ROY 🇺🇲✌🏼👍🏼

[@jonoedwards4195]

@@mikebird8290 Have great weekend too Friend

[@mikebird8290]

@@jonoedwards4195 HI JONO HOWS MY FRIEND. DOING GREAT AND ENJOYING LIFE HOPEFULLY. SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SUN IS SHINING TODAY. ABOUT TIME BEEN PISSING DOWN LAST WEEK ☹️. IM SAT IN MY LOCAL BEER GARDEN LISTENING TO ALL THE YOUNG LADS GOING ON ABOUT HOW HARD THEY ARE AND ACTING LIKE GANGSTER'S LOL. ITS KEEPING ME ENTERTAINED. TAKE CARE BUDDY ✌🏼🤙🏼

[@williewideback]

Hope FMS keep this model available for future purchase, looks and flies very well

[@RCINFORMER]

It flys great!

[@George-wj2xl]

Thanks !

[@grantbovee]

thank you

[@drn6073]

Nice piloting 👍

[@yannickringle4041]

Good morning, I just purchased this model and I have some questions about centering. apart from the recoil of the battery, did you put weight on the rear to obtain the correct VG? Should it be centered at 145 mm with the landing gear extended or retracted? excuse my english thank you for your reply

[@neglg2353]

Love mine with taileron setup and running two 3300mah lipos

[@RCINFORMER]

I may add 2 lipos later... I'll show some taileron setups in near future videos!

[@George-wj2xl]

Great flying in the wind. I am thinking about picking up the J-11. Can you tell me the size of the main gear wheels? And does the J-11 have flaps? Thanks for all the videos and info that you pass along.

[@RCINFORMER]

3" main wheels.. Flaperons can be programmed in which I will probably be doing on the J11:)

[@SM-yr9kb]

For grass, also need trailing-link for main gears?

[@RCINFORMER]

No need for trailing link gear... these Are very strong!

[@ibsilly4u568]

Will this frame work for the eflite twin 70mm because I need a frame to fly my eflite su-30 twin 70mm and it look Identical to it minus the paint scheme

[@RCINFORMER]

Yes, Same fuselage:)

[@jerryduncan1496]

Hey Man very nice all around , Great Flying by you !! PLEASE do another video after your roll rate change, then wring it out !! P.S. missed Click Bait . Keep em flying!!

[@Island_Line_Rail_Productions]

Did Eflite sell the tooling to FMS for this model? Are all the replacement parts pretty much the same? I am buying a brand new Eflite SU30 but hoping that this model is close enough incase I need replacement parts

[@nickfunaro8565]

FMS made this plane originally for E-flite.

[@chadkuenzinger4256]

you make a darn good salesman you know that. Just bought the J-11. Was totally sold on your last live show. Well done boss. Wonder if it could go 8s?? Probably not enough room looks like.

[@RCINFORMER]

Thanks Chad for using my links! Thanks for watching:)

[@chadkuenzinger4256]

@@RCINFORMER anytime. I'm a traveling helicopter mechanic for a company where we help build powerlines across the nation. It keeps me way busy, but you channel keeps me going when I'm out on shift. Keep up the good work.

[@jeffbrundt7740]

How different is it from the eFlite Su-30? They're basically the same airframe. Did FMS upgrade the motors/fans or add the Reflex? I love flying my Su-30 so not sure if I'd need this other than for parts to keep that one flying. I use 6000/6200 packs in the Su-30 so having to mod the battery bay to get the CG isn't needed. Nice flying...you need to put the ordinance on as it looks cool in flight with it on.

[@RCINFORMER]

Any shift aft in that battery really helps. My elevator is almost neutral with the battery back in the well:)

[@aviationunlimited4353]

Great review - do you use flaps for grass take off ? if so how much deflection would you recommend ?

[@RCINFORMER]

No flaps. It does not need them:)

[@aviationunlimited4353]

@@RCINFORMER Thanks for your quick reply. Your videos are best with proper technical and practical advice - keep it up !

[@dalerbsr.5061]

How does this FMS match up to the discontinued E-Flite version?

[@RCINFORMER]

This one has slightly improved 1900kv motors:)

[@johnmueller5482]

Hi rich nice plane enjoy .Question how close is your rc field to Rsw

[@RCINFORMER]

I'm about 3 hours away

[@penussussy]

Badass look'n jet.

[@RCINFORMER]

It's pretty slick!

[@nirlachman007]

Great one Rich! How different is this from the EFlite SU30?

[@RCINFORMER]

Slightly more powerful motors in this version.

[@nirlachman007]

@@RCINFORMER thanks! Waiting the the J-11 video :)

[@paulmullen8316]

Hi Rich excellent video as always bud I've bought this jet last week and on your advise I've done the mods as I'm flying off grass is the cg based on the gear being up as when the gear is down I have to push the battery forward to get the 145mm cg point ?

[@RCINFORMER]

It depends on the weight of your battery. Mine was pushed fully aft into the nose well area thru the hole I made. My battery was also a ROARINGTOP 6s 5500 70c pack that is a bit heavy.

[@RCINFORMER]

Thanks for using my link below the video to buy one! That's much appreciated:)

[@paulmullen8316]

Mine is a hrb 5000mah bud and with the gear up I have exactly the same cg and battery position as yourself so I assume you cg the plane with gear up ?

[@RCINFORMER]

@@paulmullen8316 I did mine with the gear down

[@paulmullen8316]

@@RCINFORMER forgive me but I'm a bit confused as if I did my cg with the gear down I would have to push my battery half way up the battery tray and more worrying would be that when I put the gear up which travels forward would make the jet more nose heavy 🤔 I don't suppose you have a video showing how to set the cg on your SU27 ?

[@EDF_FANatic]

Does it perform better or similar to the eflite su 30 ?

[@RCINFORMER]

Slightly better than the SU-30. the motors are Slightly more powerful.

[@v12kid]

Impressive as the eFlite SU30 is beautiful but under powered and cant do grass ops if its life depended on it. It sits in the hangar as a conversation piece now. Might have to look at this as a substitute

[@RCINFORMER]

It flys beautifully from the grass!

[@AM-it3fs]

I fly my su 30 from grass all the time. I just put a bit of white duct tape around front strut/nose gear to stiffen it up and it takes off easily.

[@xgaming2229]

Do a cobra to spin

[@gwenwilliams1008]

When it did a barrel roll why did I get blue angel vibes

[@griffonwings5177]

Can we say this model would be better with a 80mm motor ? Don’t you find it little “ slow” as far size/speed ratios? Look good , but.. i was fly in formation with mine ( another brand ) and this , difference was night and day as far performance and mostly speed .

[@bohan9957]

This is the model that should have been offered by Horizon right from the beginning, not the Eflite Su-30 junk. The FMS version comes with superior fans and better servos. Many Eflite Su-30 owners ended up upgrading to the FMS 70mm V2 pro fans for much improved performance. I'd say the other modification that will transform these overweight models is to remove the air brake, and add a second battery in that compartment. It'll give 6+ minutes of spirited flying.

[@RCINFORMER]

I will probably add the battery:)

[@RCINFORMER]

This is the model I wanted 3 years ago:)

[@bohan9957]

@@RCINFORMER Me too. I was not a fan of the Eflite Su-30 airshow scheme.

[@henryairconcepts2999]

I would love FMS to have Ukranian colour scheme variant. Digital camo looks way cooler

[@RCINFORMER]

I already suggested that to FMS:) We will see!

[@cwwisk]

Doesn't have vectored thrust, so I wouldn't buy it for 650 bucks.

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

Boo hoo 😂

[@RCINFORMER]

Use the coupon codes i got for you:)

[@RCINFORMER]

With one of the coupon codes it's $585 :)

[@Hangar43rc]

Rich, what coupon code do I use at fairrc to get it for 585?

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

@@Hangar43rc Don't think there's one for Fair RC

[@RCINFORMER]

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[@Airguardian]

Hell, that's nose heavy AF... 😬

[@RCINFORMER]

It's actually setup with the CG I'n the middle of the recommended range.

[@RC4ever]

@@RCINFORMER AKA: Noseheavy AF. The fact that manufacturers make terrible recommendations doesn't change much. Physics are still physics!

[@RC4ever]

@@RCINFORMER ​You are not helping your case! 😂 I mean, if anything, by saying your CG is right in the recommended position, you are confirming that your model is setup really nose heavy.

[@RCINFORMER]

@@RC4ever It's actually a bit unstable at this CG... You can feel it in the sticks as it is pitch sensitive & it flares easily. CG is in a good place at 145mm. 115mm would be to nose heavy. Anyway, this plane has a flyable CG "RANGE" & there is no perfect CG for it, it depends on your flying style. 145mm is not the aft limit, but it's towards the aft limit. It's definitely not nose heavy AF:)

[@RCINFORMER]

@@RC4ever FYI, the FMS manual recommends 140-150mm ... the old E-flite manual recommended 115-150mm or something ridiculous like that... 115 was to nose heavy...

[@jankarlsson5358]

Nice plane and flight😊... But some annoying music... and why are you so stressed? 🤔 Feel free to go pee before you record