FMS Toyota Land Cruiser 80 1/18 - RocHobby Katana - EazyRC Patriot: Differences?

[@DanPRC]

Thanks for this info! Yes a lot of videos with the Land Cruiser but none talks about the metal diff gears. That’s the important part to me. I’ll be changing out the electronics anyway. Only other issue is getting rid of the transmission noise I hear in all the videos.

[@donaldsneffe]

Most noise is from ESC, but you will never get those LC80s totally silent, the hardbody is a kind of amplifier ;-)

[@bigtreesfall]

Just what I needed to see! Danke my friend.

[@JacobScherer]

This is the exact video I needed! As you say at the end, it is still a difficult choice... Danke schön!

[@shooterboyroy3690]

got mine off Horizon flash sale a couple days ago for $119 I can't wait to get it tomorrow fms lc80

[@donaldsneffe]

They go for cheap actually, Banggood has similar low prices for the LC80 actually...

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Could the "brass bushings" at 13:24 actually be bronze Oilite [old trade name] plain bearings? If so, they are made of powdered metallurgy bronze alloy and impregnated with oil [self lubricating]. Not a bad thing for a low speed crawler, but they are way more water resistant than the ubiquitous unsealed ball bearings in these crawlers. These are a step above the cheap, bottom barrel white nylon bearings [bushings?] seen in the rtr WPL and MN trucks....

[@donaldsneffe]

Sorry, I do not know. I am not really good in this metal material things ;-) I know, those bushings are probably the way to go if you really want to drive in mud and water. However, I exchanged to ball bearings to get a drive train as smooth as possible. I do not run them in water and mud...

[@Drivingdrew719]

I have the patriot its awesome i do want this another one to paint a different color

[@Hjerte_Verke]

The universal joint steering is the purchasing point for me, because I want crawlers like these Land Cruisers to be as maneuverable as possible--thanks for addressing that difference. I didn't really see a steering test of the FMS model so does it have sharp steering angles to rival those of the C24KM and C34KM axles? Those have the most extreme angles [super sharp turns] I have ever seen.

[@donaldsneffe]

No, it is ok, but not super good. Those will never be super crawlers, they are scale trail trucks.

[@tikochavsd]

received my land cruiser last year Christmas ,use maybe 3 or 4 times in side home , on floor , today i try to used only the lights on and steering wheel work not traction . no moved, full charge battery ,nothing some body know what the problem,tks guys.

[@manuelperarnau6833]

Excellent comparison! Does the transmitter of the Patriot work with the Turbo Racing 4ch receiver and does It have the drag breaking function or you would need an external ESC for this? Thank you for your informative videos

[@donaldsneffe]

No, it does not work with TurboRacing receivers. Patriot Radio is super cheap and simple, as in all EazyRC models - no drag brake function. Only the very new models (FMS Toyota FJ Cruiser, RocHobby Fire Horse, Chevy1/12 Jimny, Willy) do have this drag brake function by radio (all new electronics).

[@manuelperarnau6833]

@@donaldsneffe Hello, Thank you. So there is no way to improve the low speed ability without changing the receiver with the corresponding transmitter then. Just starting into the hobby and the Patriot seems like the most cost efective platform including the body and details

[@donaldsneffe]

@@manuelperarnau6833 Yes, in the EazyRC you will have to change electronics. You can use any radio/receiver combo you want, only need a rather small receiver. You can also use a Furitek (Lizard) ESC, which is plug and play (However, battery plugs are different to the plugs in the EazyRC). A big performance upgrade also with brushed motor. However, driving performance in the German ESCs in brushed is is better than in Furitek, but in the Furiteks you can change settings by app. You can buy quite nice radios with receiver for 20 - 30 bucks, was even less than 20 bucks in some, but actually prices have raised. Check for TurboRacing, HobbyPorter, DumboRC and more (sold under different brand names in local shops here for rather cheap, too - but guess you are not from my area ;-) ).

[@manuelperarnau6833]

@@donaldsneffe Hello, Thank you for the clarification and recommendations. I will do the upgrades over time since this will be my first crawler. Prices will hopefully drop why then. Regards!

[@Zacks_Editz2234]

I have a 1/18 scale Land Cruiser and im replacing the shocks on them, how do I take the stock ones off??

[@donaldsneffe]

PH-Screwdriver

[@Zacks_Editz2234]

@@donaldsneffeI try to unscrew them but it comes off the frame but the shock still stays on the ball joint. Idk what to do erm

[@donaldsneffe]

@@Zacks_Editz2234 Yes, bit fiddly. Try with tweezers, I have ball link pliers for this. They do come out, try with force but still carefully.

[@Zacks_Editz2234]

@@donaldsneffe yep I did it!! But now to put the new shocks in they have another ball link I have to remove to put on the fame lol

[@yumalamariussen9201]

I got a fms lc 80 with a broken esc I am looking to putt furitek in. Do you know a good receiver that will bind with the stock radio? thanks

[@donaldsneffe]

My FMS LC80 does have the "normal" TurboRacing radio which binds to the TurboRacing receivers. But someone here told me, that his FMS LC80 does have a different radio (the new one, that also comes with 1/12 Jimny? Or 1/12 Willys Jeep? There are two new radios). This will not bind, there is no receiver for those, you will have to buy/use a new radio. Simple: If you have a small radio where you can take off the handle (for putting batteries in), you do have the "right" one for the small Turboracing receiver, if not, you have to use a new radio. This is the receiver (I bought about 10 of those) for the "old" (handle off) radio, for my FMS LC80 and also for the Katana: www.banggood.com/Turo-Racing-R41-4CH-RC-Car-Receiver-For-91803G-VT-2_4GHz-3CH-Radio-Remote-Control-Transmitter-RC-Car-Boat-Vehicle-Model-p-1613291.html?warehouse=CN&ID=0&p=6S2910081756201209IA&custlinkid=1793938&cur_warehouse=CN

[@saintsfisherman]

I have stripped a gear inside my main gear case of my Katana. Is there a new gear case for this little rig out there or am I just dead in the water? It is my only RC and do not have much experience to fall back on. I was able to get it apart enough to figure this out though, so I am pretty proud of that. I understand these are not the big crawlers out there so there may not be a fix. I just wanted to know if it could be fixed, or do I just need to chalk this up as experience and go ahead and pony up for another?

[@donaldsneffe]

Spare parts are available, for example at Asiatees. Katana (not FMS LC80, not Patriot!!!) needs Hobby Plus CR-18 spares, same chassis.

[@mathiasvangils9589]

@@donaldsneffe good day And what if you stripped a gear in the main gear case off the fms lc80? Is there an option because I do not found a spare on any site anywhere Dearest regards and keep up the nice work and very usefull content

[@donaldsneffe]

@@mathiasvangils9589 You can also take the parts for the EazyRC trucks. Get them on Aliexpress, Hobbyking (if in stock), probably Asiatees. Check this: de.aliexpress.com/item/1005002531576125.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.65694e08gGtaKZ

[@ShakosJournal]

did you make a video on how to ad weights to the wheels

[@donaldsneffe]

No. This is super simple... no video needed.

[@ShakosJournal]

@@donaldsneffe ah 😅 I'm new to this! but are the fms lc80 tires foam?

[@donaldsneffe]

@@ShakosJournal Tires are rubber, no foams inside. But beadlockwheels, easy to modify.

[@TheJSR111]

The new FMS eachine FJ Cruiser 👌🏼😎

[@donaldsneffe]

... will arrive in few days in my house, hopefully ;-) Will do a video, body looks cool, and after so many LC80 and Jeep bodys a new body is really cool. Looks promising, but probably same chassis as the EazyRC, this new LC80 and RocHobby Fire Horse.

[@rcpwolf7892]

lehrreiches video danke 👍 👍

[@Treckopc]

Finde den Katana aufgrund der Optik der Achsen deutlich ansprechender. Wirkt insgesamt realistischer auch ohne original Badge.

[@donaldsneffe]

Jo. Aber aktuell scheinen alle neuen Modelle von FMS/Rochobby/EazyRC mit den "großen" Punpkins zu kommen und auch mit anderen Fernsteuerungen (nicht mehr kompatibel mit den 4-Kanal TurboRacing Sendern).

[@Treckopc]

Mal sehen wie lang der Katana noch im Programm bleibt. Weicht ja doch mehr ab von den anderen...

[@Treckopc]

Meinst du es macht Sinn bei dem Katana/LC80 Reifengewichte zu verbauen? Ich finde leider nichts passendes und Klebegewichte passen in die Felgen schlecht rein. Gruß

[@donaldsneffe]

@@Treckopc Sogar ganz extrem viel Sinn. Ich hab das gemacht - und noch ärger beim EazyRC Arizona (Jeep, gleiche Räder, auf 40 g/Rad). Ich verwende dafür superbilligers (und schlechtes) Lötzinn (aus China), "Golfblei" (Klebeblei, Golf- oder Tennisblei), und auch Bleistreifen (Fischerblei), doppelseitiges Klebeband. Hab auch Einlagen gemacht aus Schaumstoff. Die teuren Radgewichte für die Hobbyplus Beadlocks (CR-18, CR-24) passen nicht (!!!), weil die Felgen einen kleineren Durchmesser haben.

[@Treckopc]

@@donaldsneffe Golfblei danke für den Tip, kann man dann ja zuschneiden 👍 dann passt es auch in die Felge rein

[@woodyuk1983]

So does the fms land cruiser axle internals fit inside the cr80 axles?

[@donaldsneffe]

What is CR80? You mean CR-18? No, do not fit. Fit to EazyRC.

[@thor_4017]

Is fms lc80 metal diff/pinion gear usable in eazyrc patriot/Arizona axles?

[@donaldsneffe]

No

[@northernlightsrc8994]

Is there any benefit for the lc80 vs the katana v2

[@northernlightsrc8994]

So the only diff between v2 and lc80 is metal axle gears and axle shape?

[@donaldsneffe]

I do not know what "Katana v2" is - is there any v2? I did buy several Katanas, all were the same. LC80 has Toyota logos, front turning lights on correct position, metal gears in axles, universal steering - my Katanas have more scale (Hobby Plus) axles, but dogbones, plastic gears. Electronics are the same. New FMS FJ Cruiser has different electronics, better ESC and better lightcontroller (but only super simple rear lights, elo not splash proof).

[@northernlightsrc8994]

There is a silver katana that isn't badged with Toyota

[@donaldsneffe]

@@northernlightsrc8994 Never saw this. Banggood silver is badged and FMS, mine is from Banggood

[@ferdinandy]

Awesome video. May I ask what replacement gears I can use for a clicking Patriot? Thank you Donald.

[@tomshld]

Welchen der 3 würdest du am ehesten empfehlen?

[@donaldsneffe]

Keine Ahnung, hab es eh zu erklären versucht... alle drei sind gut, ... der Katana halt mit den Scale Achsen, der FMS häßliche Achsen, dafür Metallzahnräder und Universal Steering und Logo... Aber eigentlich um 90 € den Patriot, wenn man umbauen will...

[@tomshld]

@@donaldsneffe Machen die Metallzahnräder soviel aus von der Haltbarkeit? An sich hab ich nix gegen umbauen, aber bei der kleinen Größe kenne ich mich leider gar nicht aus gerade wegen Regler usw

[@donaldsneffe]

@@tomshld Glaube nicht, fahr aber nicht so viel. Schau mal mein "Katana calm down" video...

[@tomshld]

@@donaldsneffe Danke, schau ich mir mal an. Falls es aber reglertechnisch nix fertiges gibt wird der patrion für mich rausfallen, da ich bei so kleinen Sachen ungerne löten möchte

[@donaldsneffe]

@@tomshld Klein ist Orlandoo, nicht 1/18 ;-)