FNAF, The MAJOR Clue We All Missed (Security Breach)

[@FuhNaff]

I just want to clarify a few things: - The misconception that Scott was referring to could've been anything. But even if this wasn't it, that doesn't change the theory whatsoever. - I believe the story of the Mimic parallels Henry building Baby, so I believe he built her for Charlie before she died to William (just like Edwin did for David in the book). Baby does not contain Charlie’s soul, I believe Baby was built to mimic Charlie. Thank you everyone for the support on this vid! I hope you enjoyed :)

[@janikavare371]

Ty

[@kdub175]

I like to imagine Scott watching this video, (with a subtle smile, quietly saying to himself, “well done son…well done.”)

[@balls_gaming]

this is probably my favourite FNaF theory yet! Great job dude

[@turtle_denim2823]

it was a great theory

[@nmm_01]

When your theory about Charlie controlling the Pizzaplex came out I was confused as hell but now my mind has been completely blown, great observation, I simple have to believe you now

[@Dtox_Doda]

watching john go from a fnaf news source too a theorist has been awesome

[@tartra]

When you run out of news, you *become* the news 😍

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

FNAF, The MAJOR Clue We All Missed

[@harpot678]

There were a few misses mixed in with the hits, but this video seems like a hit!

[@CreatorProductionsOriginal]

Uhuhm, it’s actually to* not too 🤓☝️

[@cpbr-editing]

its so nice to see this man get his due respect from those in the comments.

[@evantube]

Yooo the chip inside baby is such a good point

[@Beellkax]

EVAN???

[@Kira_iscool]

I haven't seen or heard anything from Evan in a long time

[@FuhNaff]

Thanks Evan!

[@ActuallyMori]

Well. You're a nostalgic sight to see on a FuhNaff video, cool to see you're still around

[@Funhouse-Fredbear]

Love your videos Evan

[@IkerUnzu]

Oh I really need to see matpat’s reaction to this theory

[@tired_s1oth]

I lost my job so I've got plenty of time for a 3 hour breakdown 😂

[@nmm_01]

in 2 parts, 90 minutes each

[@sumayyahqamar2007]

YESSSS

[@Karbonix]

999 likes and 3 comments really

[@sirchristian104]

0:38 a GAMEEE theory

[@mntphoenix4798]

The fact that this man predicted Cassidy being lured into the pizza place before the game even came out deserves a congrats 👏

[@ValorArtem]

I’m pretty sure everyone suspected that

[@MysticMushroomReal]

@@ValorArtem thats not true. Most people thoguht that something (perhaps the mimic) was keeping gregory trapped not the mimic mimicing gregory

[@GRtogetaBIC]

​@@MysticMushroomReal I don't know about most people but Matpat also was sure Cassi was being lured by something else, with the mimic being a possibility but not certain because before Ruin most characters like the Mimic that are only in the books don't appear in the games. Even in this video the way he talks about the mimic shows he wasn't fully believeing in the actual Mimic being there but just in something corrupted by the Mimic virus.

[@MysticMushroomReal]

@@GRtogetaBIC My point was you don't have to ruin it for everyone else just because you are insecure

[@GRtogetaBIC]

@@MysticMushroomReal Do you even read what you write? You make no sense. You are the only one with insecurities here.

[@cirkusanette]

this is amazing. One of my favorite theories ever. I can't believe I haven't heard anyone mention baby's chip because it was huge and it went nowhere (apparently) and now it makes a lot of sense. I also love the fact that you acknowledge baby talking about another "her" in SL and suddenly changing to a first person in the next game, it always drove me crazy

[@Yuhbruh189]

Yeah this theory is insane and makes so much sense

[@JanTft]

What's even scarier is that it seems that Mimic *knows* it's mimicking behavior, but he still does what it was designed for, that's why Baby gives a speech about ,,pretending" It shows that Mimic is just as intelligent (if not more) as humans, but he still does what it was designed for, just like humans eat, sleep etc.

[@totallyrealyeahh]

Yes! It is amazing, and it is SUCH a true theory (at least the part about the mimic and ruin being a whole trap, it was a trap, the mimic tricked her)

[@shaungurian7992]

Ruin has mimic losing his mimic ability so what is up with that? How long has it been since the mimic was created?

[@whylife8980]

⁠@@shaungurian7992Well according to the books the mimic been around for about 40 years with Edwin(Henry) destroying it and recreating it and transferring it over and over again until he gets the right data. It’s the reason why I have a love/hate real with Henry because he has some strangely nefarious actions but is a good person with good intentions and a strong will to protect people. I low key can’t get over him trapping his daughters spirit in a robot prison while she is in a robot prison to then be sold off for $5 to be burned to ashes. I know he did it to free Charlie’s spirit but it seems like it only made the situation worse because, with Josh’s very well explained theory, it made Mimic Charlie essentially the last remnants of her and Mimic Charlie is on demon time so it’s not looking good right now. It doesn’t help that Charlie already had a sad life but now she has an even sadder death because her spirit had been corrupted from the anguish.

[@Sock-Monster-Simian]

I think "the Baby isn't mine" interpretation is genius. It makes perfect sense when the Michael interpretation never quite lined up. Also, I had completely forgotten about Baby's chip. I don't remember anyone ever talking about that (though it has been a while now, so I may have forgotten), but it seems like such a glaring oversight. This is great.

[@LukiKruki]

Not only that. Before the chip got removed Baby's talking about Elizabeth as her, different person but once the Charlie chip is removed, Baby behaves like somebody else, like she's Elizabeth which is true.

[@exallted]

It’s not canon, but isn’t Baby introduced by Henry in FNAF World?

[@bycaprinae]

@@exallted what if William convinced Henry to make murder robots to investigate the remnant, but it backs fire, killing William's daughter. Then Henry decides not to continue with this "research" since the risks are too high and William kills Charlie as a revenge? lol A daughter for a Daughter

[@bycaprinae]

@@exallted In that clip, he does say that he Didn't want to dissapoint people and that his mind isn't right, that he made something terrible. Maybe that could be because he was pressured into doing what William had in mind huh 🤔🤔

[@gojira_guy]

@@bycaprinae but then we would need the next five murders in the fnaf 2 pizzarea so that William could discover remnant so unless Charlie came after fnaf 2 which could’ve happened honestly I think that the theory doesn’t add up (but honestly all things considered this is a solid theory)

[@MellowLol]

I literally did so much audible gasps because of how amazing this was I really wanna see what matpat thinks of this lol

[@fnacas15reactionandgaming66]

I feel you I was doing the same thing

[@personismaybe0610]

Same.

[@kalynxs]

Exactly… (spoilers for this theory up ahead) Once I heard that the Mimic might be mimicking Gregory’s voice when he calls for help I had just had a physical reaction- just started freaking out and gasping because OH MY GOD THAT MADE SO MUCH SENSE-

[@retrov5469]

Same, I was literally doing the exact same thing, making this 17:00 min video to a 30:00 minute video trying to process everything 😅

[@alil636]

nothing much makes a 10 hour stream off of "watching" this video without paying any actual attention and pausing for half an hour every half a second...

[@zariasafonova7220]

I can't wait for Matpat to turn this into a 6 hour documentary

[@Wowcrazyyyy]

Ikr

[@randomerjr3182]

LMAO

[@Banana_morebanan]

well well well...

[@fayebobetsis9414]

actually, it’s one almost 2 hours, long

[@Banana_morebanan]

@@fayebobetsis9414 "Actually" 🤓

[@bigpoggers6507]

Fun fact: In FNaF World, leading up to the release of SL, the last cutscene shows Henry regretting building Baby, before it then murders him. It's been shown Henry built Baby since before we knew what SL was, and everybody ignored it.

[@bennybarrios2750]

That was Scott self-inserting himself, not Henry. In his dialogues he talks about the player ruining his games and his fear of disappointing the fans

[@personismaybe0610]

We also get a audio recording from Elizabeth in SL that says that “daddy made her just me”.

[@flickyfkosstitcher8547]

@@bennybarrios2750 The desk guy is in fact Henry; Scott's only self-insert character in the game is his avatar, Animdude.

[@CottonCandySharks]

​@@bennybarrios2750That's a seperate part of the game, the sprite sitting at the desk has long been acknowledged to be Henry (pretty sure Game Theory even used to have that as Henry's avatar before the graphic novels picture came out)

[@CallMeVidd]

@@bennybarrios2750pretty sure he retconned that in update 2 Scott retconned all of fnaf world and turned it into a Sister Location teaser instead

[@tiagovduarte]

Seeing John's videos feel like seeing Matpat's FNAF theories for the first time. I love how different and independent he is in certain parts of his theories. He's doing a amazing job and tbh.... i belive he might be right in many things

[@harpot678]

At some point, he might have been lost in the sauce, but this video was well thought out rather than him just trying his best to justify his theory going backwards

[@Maikaz]

@@harpot678 there are some good points he makes

[@Larucos]

I quickly saw where you were going with it and I think that's a testament to how legit this theory is. It's really clever that you connected everything back to the card you take from Baby in SL, because it's a detail that got quickly forgotten about in the middle of everything else in that game, but indeed could have massive implications when you stop to consider. And it reminds me of how everyone thought Cassie was going to be Elizabeth from the first image cause she looked blonde, but then she was a brunette, reversing how Baby was initially brunette but her hair turned red, but it's probably my confirmation bias rather than intentional sfdlkjfghflsg

[@sug4r_stars641]

@DisillusiSprit They mean the chip you have to enter the passcode for

[@thechannelwithnoname2140]

This just goes to prove that the lore of FNAF has gotten so giant and complicated that there can be a voice line explaining a huge important element can be staring us RIGHT IN THE FACE and we won’t connect it back until years later. Amazing job John!

[@Tailo.̊-d3j]

The fact that he predicted that the girl was being lured by gregorys voice BEFORE ruin actually came out shows how well he thinks over these theories!!!

[@-mandi1063]

the fact this was spot on to what is happening with the ruin dlc is insane. Great video

[@aniqueevans1547]

One thing I really appreciate about this video is that at the end he put a full summary of his take on what happened. He should absolutely start doing this for every video. It's very easy to get lost on the little details as he's explaining things so finishing off with an overview gives us as an audience a much clearer picture of what he's trying to get across. Great job John!

[@bob8mybobbob]

Absolutely! Especially with all the body sharing and mimicking, I find myself losing track of the theory, and it’s nice to get grounded again.

[@mysteryhall3665]

@@bob8mybobbob &😢 Fq😊

[@Adam-nm7nc]

True. Also some of us haven’t watched all of his videos so this is good because he recalls to older videos

[@renzod9252]

I agree cause with a lot of his theories I think they're really good then I forget everything with all that's going on.

[@Linmyra]

This is some pretty solid connections of SL to SB. Honestly completely forgot about the chip. And the sudden perspective shift once the chip is removed is something I haven't seen anyone mention. Keep up the good work! You've definitely have come a long way :)

[@SeaSphynx]

This is mind blowing. This is the first time I’ve felt genuinely shocked by a theory because this honestly seems to work perfectly. I’m guessing the green and purple in that glitched bunny at the end of the ruin trailer is the embodiment of the culmination of the Charlie virus and afton. I can’t wait to see if Matpat could react to this. Amazing job!

[@monelmonelmonel]

Has MatPat ever reacted to one of his videos? Just curious I don't want GT Live

[@Dapego580]

@@monelmonelmonel yes, he has, he even invites John to be there with him while he reacts

[@kingauther7812]

It’s on GTLive

[@sourcream990]

The chip inside of baby is a good point!! I genuinely haven't seen anybody bring up the chip before so this is an interesting theory and I'd like to see more expanded on it for sure

[@adammartinez8061]

And if you look up the negative color of Green, one of its Meaning is corruption…..which is exactly what the virus is. Adding further more to this.

[@DaGator]

Honestly, your theory makes sense. In the Ruins trailer the robots are seen still roaming around, which means they're still after something. The place being a trap also makes sense, since there is no way Gregory should know who Cassie is or how to reach her. Besides, Gregory escaped along with Freddy, but even if he didn't he'd be smart enough to get out by himself. However, I'm still confused about what Gregory's actual purpose was in Security Breach, nothing seems to fit 100%.

[@laurenbee6340]

You have been killing these theories lately. It’s crazy to think how deep Scott and his team made the connections and lore and leave enough but not everything to figure it out. I’m excited to see what all these new editions to the franchise lead to

[@tristanbidwell7515]

Wow. I really think you nailed it with this one. Everything you presented feels really compelling and almost unassailable. (Well, as unassailable as you can get in FNAF anyway). Normally, I find things I can poke holes in when I watch most FNAF theories, which leaves me thinking the theory is only one of many possibilities. But this feels too solid to poke through.

[@umelgaming3177]

Yeah honestly the "Baby isn't mine" quote is so obvious but it surprises me nobody else has ever made that connection. Like they are literally telling us Baby isn't Afton's yet it flew over everyone's heads. The Chip we remove from Baby being the stand-in for the mimic virus makes sense. It wasn't just some random circuit board that was scanned but an actual physical chip that we have already seen in the games already that was a loose end before. It then makes sense why help wanted 2 is going to be set in the SL Bunker... they are wanting to give another means to explain these details in a way that we as an audience could digest.

[@BuckyBuchsbaum]

@@umelgaming3177 I guess for me the thing that prevents me from fulling subscribing to John's theory is the opening cutscene of Sister Location. While Afton doesn't expressly state that he built Baby, he seems to present her to the inspector (?) as his own work. It's possible that this was another Scott retcon, but considering it happens in the same game as the (admittedly compelling) "Baby isn't mine" incident, they are either both still relevant or neither. Also, why would Henry design a Charlie-bot designed to capture children? That seems like an Afton-collecting-remnant thing to do. I'm curious as to what the rest of the community thinks about that, hope you respond. :)

[@umelgaming3177]

@@BuckyBuchsbaum So if Henry took his grief and anger out on Circus Baby when Charlie died and Baby was damaged as a result. William could have stolen the damaged animatronic and repaired it, in the process of repairing it adding features meant to lure and trap kids as modifications and not building it out-right. This also falls in-line with what Scott wants... The Fourth Closet explicitly tells us that Baby was meant to be the Adult form of Robot Charlie and that Afton Modified it into what we know now. I am not saying this is a 1:1 but if Scott had a Blueprint for the story and the Books and Games are both following it then similarities are bound to exist between them and that detail is really weird if you just assume William Built Circus Baby because they would just straight up contradict eachother

[@BuckyBuchsbaum]

@@umelgaming3177 Fair point, it is hard to reconcile the fact that the fourth Charlie-bot is just straight up Baby with William being the creator of Baby. It's just hard to switch perceptions of WIlliams connection to Baby despite the fact that the evidence was always there in front of us that Henry built baby. There's also that weird (and presumably non-canon) ending of FNAF World where Baby seems to kill her creator, but I don't think that's really a sequitur. I also wonder how the Eleanor character from the Fazbear Frights stingers fits into this Baby identity crisis. That's something that's been kinda left behind in terms of theorizing. Anyway sorry for dumping blocks of text on you, thanks for your response.

[@tomkubus]

​@@umelgaming3177 for the first point, it could be that, but then the immortal and the restless gets explained in the logbook, where mike specifically says that he is Clara, the vampire is fazbears ent and the baby is all of the things faz ent denies, he literally says that and people if it's it, the thing missed in sl is either that or moltenmci being confirmed The main problem with that part is that we know from Scott and scholastic that the tales books happen in the games timeline, and that's a directly confirmed fact, Well not really since the theory kinda got debunked years ago

[@cresent9931]

Even after so many years, there’s still so much we haven’t learned yet. Scott really is a genius. Can’t wait for more awesome theories John! Keep up the good work!

[@ObjectionistWasTaken]

albeit an accidental genius

[@Tuskbumper]

I feel like going back and forth between the books and games isn't the smartest thing to do as the general audience doesn't look nearly as deeply into the what's presented to them as Game theory and the most devout fans do. I'll give him credit for having a complex story that needs fans to work together to piece it all together but we've seen how often it can go off the mark. MatPat for example has been wrong a few times.

[@geeayn]

genius is VERY generous

[@ryanspratt4161]

People are idiots. You are great, I love your content and many others do as well man. I don’t know how else I could reach out to send support and love, but your uploads always made my day. We love you man, please take it easy and don’t let them get to you. You rock superstar, looking forward to your return 🙏🏻

[@FuhNaff]

Wow that means a lot. Thank you so much. I hope you’re doing well 💙

[@ryanspratt4161]

@@FuhNaff maybe you could buy yourself some Ice Cream or something, always makes me happy :)

[@gloriousgamer1351]

Uhm, this kinda feels rude, if not it's alr, just don't call people idiots, we are all human.

[@timmy2670]

@@gloriousgamer1351 They are talking about the trolls

[@hateredpapyruss2569]

​@@gloriousgamer1351idiot is an adjective tho, there are stupid people and smart people

[@randyjimmy4786]

Him thinking it was a trap for the ruin was so mind blowing how he got it like spot on with the mimic

[@Aeroczema]

Duuude, you pulled out so many details I've never heard anyone mention before and put them together in a way that makes so much sense to me! I can't wait to see what Ruin has in store! Thanks for sharing your theories!

[@jorlowski1855]

This theory hits so hard, and honestly, I can usually find a couple things in a theory that I disagree with, but I think this one is absolutely rock solid

[@martie.mp4]

Weird observation: the trailers for both SB and the Ruin DLC make HEAVY use of a music box melody. It matches the vibe and sounds creepy, yes. But maybe this shows a bigger connection between those games and Charlie - we knew her spirit was in the puppet. Puppet’s whole introductory mechanic was a music box. The darker, slower music box from the trailers definitely sounds more evil than the music box that the puppet has in FNAF 2. Like, I dunno… an evil version of a good character?

[@pasttense69]

The music box is Ballora’s theme though isn’t it? I feel like that would imply that there’s more of a connection with her than there is with the puppet.

[@StrawberryDusty]

@@pasttense69I would argue that Charlie, or the puppets, music box is more out of tune and vintage while Ballora’s is much more polished and smooth

[@x-x7038]

bro figured out the new dlc a month before💀

[@afnaf_fan-1]

Fr💀

[@thatperson8126]

Bro just spoiled the entire plot of ruin without it even being out

[@ajkonecny6830]

I really enjoyed this theory. The fact that we might have overlooked a small detail in Sister Location after all this time shows, at least to me, that Scott put a lot of thought into that game. Personally I've always felt like Sister Location had more story left to tell. Imo i felt like Sister Location started to really give us an idea of how the story is going forward. Also now that we're getting a VR2 sometime later this year i wonder how much more Lore well get from the new game? Not trying to pressure Steel Wool or anything but from what it shows it looks like were in for a ride of good mysteries and I'm here for it. Anyway, long story short, I feel like SL is very important and has more to tell in its story.

[@DaxIsAName]

The whole Two Beloved Daughters Put Into One plot line is actually pretty great. It's the concept bringing of two enemies together through a common tragedy. This series is so dark tho like sooo many dead children.

[@Ihazpants45]

Something to note is the chip is also the color of Elizabeth’s eyes and Gregory saying he’s trapped parallels what the mimic said in the epilogue

[@Sayori393]

I love how you don’t make a theory video just to make a video you only do it when you genuinely have one and they almost always feel spot on. You have single handedly solved and pioneered so much of the FNAF lore we know today in such a short amount of time. Thank you for everything you’ve done for the community!!!You are amazing!

[@CrystalKin]

Omg, ur predictions for ruin were nearly on point except the Bonnie part because you can find Bonnie destroyed by monty behind bonnie bowling

[@Adqm212]

Roxy*

[@therealestunforgivable]

God bless you John, I’ve watched you since 100k and never stopped watching you. You are definitely the new Game Theroist, and the amount of effort you put into videos is insane. Keep it up.

[@ang5832]

God bless you too

[@meru8348]

Wow this really feels like a concrete theory I completely forgot we took that chip out of Baby in Sister location and the fact she changes from talking like Charlie is a sperate person to talking like she is Charlie in Fnaf 6 is some really solid evidence that I don't think I've seen anyone point out.

[@higueraft571]

> the fact she changes from talking like Charlie is a sperate person to talking like she is Charlie in Fnaf 6 You mean Elizabeth?

[@grenouillesupreme]

The only reason she does that is because she doesn't want michael to think she is possessed, she needs his trust, in fnaf 6 she is already free, she doesn't care

[@LukiKruki]

Could you fix your comment? First time we see Baby she talking about Elizabeth like different person (that's Charlie talking about Elizabeth), once the chip is removed, Baby's talking she's Elizabeth.

[@galaxyrend]

Baby is Elizabeth, not Charlie.

[@LoLo-l3t]

You mean Elizabeth?

[@t1nyf]

this is actually such a great, comprehensive explanation for the puppet's reappearance in fnaf sb!! great work!! the amount of reasearch put into these videos is so impressive and i really enjoy the new perspectives on the events of the timeline!! (:

[@RedBird-jq5kc]

This actually makes so much sense and is even backed up by the books An additional piece of information is that Charlie‘s bunny doll could be plushtrap. The sister location map shows 3 distinct houses which could belong to William, Mrs. Afton (if they got a divorce), and Henry. In this case Henry’s house would be the one containing the plushtrap hallway and the 4 side rooms (closets) shown to each contain an animatronic (which could be the Charlie animatronics). Might be something to look into.

[@Tuesday275.7]

It's all one place SL isn't under multiple homes

[@sterlinh]

I cannot explain the feeling of dread and excitement that I felt when I saw this video-it feels like that one game theory video all over again

[@gregoryfish766]

I actually really like this, John. It makes so much sense! Also seeing you running with MatPat now is like my favorite thing. Stay on the rise bro, and happy pride month!

[@KianIsHere]

Another theory from John. Man never stops thinking Love your content

[@prosecutorwalton]

But can he go anywhere?

[@Emyloo57]

I really like his theorys because he's a newer theorist so he's not as held back by the restraints that other theorist have like posting theories that are two controversial or could alter the entire fnaf timline wich is really cool because you get to see a really raw take on it without the theories being dictated by the need to stay relevant so great job!

[@saramelara1073]

The crazy thing is that in the song “Join Us For A Bite” one of the lines of Circus baby is “Because somebody purple murder me…” And the theory is that circus baby is the evil version of Charlie ! And we know that Charlie was killed by William Afton! 🫨🫨🫨😱😱😱😱😱

[@Overlyamplified]

​@@saramelara1073That is a good point! But it is a fan song afterall.

[@ianmorr222]

Something to note is that what we know as Baby in SL, according to the silver eyes trilogy of books, is actually the ADULT version of Charlie, from the four closets. and Baby in the books uses giant needles to manipulate her size and whatnot (needles that are PRESENT in her in-game model). So yeah, Baby = evil Charlie, Afton stole her from Henry, and all of this also means that Henry WAS the creator of Baby, all the way back since the desk guy from FNAF WORLD!! This theory is mind-blowing.

[@deathmauler181]

It fucking fits honestly WILDLY well.

[@hibagell]

i love how he is always examining details from the past to rethink the conclusions weve come to before. although that leads him to stretching quite a bit its still refreshing to see someone with a wider view

[@Dapego580]

Wow you really have me convinced here. Great work. I can already imagine the 5 part reaction from Matpat

[@lausacsanduan2942]

I'm happy you appear on gtlive to discuss things like this, because you really bring up some interesting ideas and points that may get missed or forgotten about. It's nice to watch both your videos by themselves and discussions with other theorist I watch, and what can come of them.

[@mskiara18]

I compliment how thorough and intricate your theories and studies are with the lore, thank you for sharing.

[@Lyn22020]

I always liked finding overlaps between the books and games and couldn't rectify Game Baby being an Afton-made bot, while Book Baby was Henry's daughter. I find this theory super compelling and love it very much! Thank you for putting this together and for all the detail! I'll be thinking of this for a while!

[@thebreadbunny1863]

There is the thing with scott explicitly telling us to not use the novels as a lore guide, though!

[@the_godbodor7026]

That one detail about Baby going from referring to Elizabeth as a separate entity in SL to being Elizabeth herself in Pizza Sim is actually such a big detail that I'm kinda shocked none of us noticed until now. I really like the new Game Theory that they released about Ruin being the whole Charlie vs Glitchtrap viruses and now with this theory we have a pretty solid way of getting to that point from a lore perspective.

[@im_not_here_to_fight2744]

This makes soooo much sense. And everything seems to fall into place in this puzzle you've pieced together! Brilliant theorising and video making John!!

[@IcyLaserZ]

what about how in the henry speech when he talks about his daughter, it shows charlie?

[@im_not_here_to_fight2744]

@@IcyLaserZ I think there he must mean toddler Charlie, the one that died. Not his robot

[@PequenoEverest]

I sometimes wonder if Scott watches these videos and sighs when someone finally gets a detail right. I feel good abt this one

[@bogbutreal]

after seeing the ending of ruin dlc, jesus christ you got it spot on. mimic mimiced gregorys voice, made cassie go bone deep in the pizzaplex and free the mimic

[@rockstarherospirit]

I do truly think the Mimic is a retcon and Glitchtrap and Burntrap were originally meant to be William, but I also think Charlie was always planned to be part of Security Breach in some way, and this is a very well done interpretation of both Sister Location and Security Breach as it is now. Really nice detective work!

[@spriggomancy]

Great video!! Everything you said about Glitchtrap's appearance in Help Wanted is so compelling. I love how you go back and re-examine games we thought we knew all about, and come back with something fresh. Keep it up John!!

[@EpicFettuccini]

Me and my older sibling have LOVED your channel since you were at 75k subscribers!! So seeing you go from FNAF news to theories and being on the couch with matpat has been amazing!! Also your theories are always amazing and we always look forward to watching them when we see the notification pop up. Your way of story telling is amazing and I (and I'm sure my older sibling) love you for it

[@camerorgb6525]

Its so interesting how all these theorists can make so many stories with all these clues, it is honestly the strongest feature of the fnaf community. Amazing video john!

[@lululickorish]

regarding the chip inside baby, there is an animatronic called “El Chip,” which LITERALLY translates to THE CHIP. This animatronic also has a featured restaurant in SB, bringing more attention to the chip inside baby!!

[@milkyweetjuh]

I really think that I prefer johns theories over those from Matpat... He's so spot on with all of those, even if it seems a bit 'far fedged' at the beginning. Just look at how this connects half a year later! Good job and keep it up!

[@willsmith5935]

I love the idea of Charlie and William now being given the same form, even if only in a spiritual successor sort of way with Glitchtrap, with the only way of stopping them now being up to Cassidy

[@an.na1118]

this is insane, there is NO way all of this is just some huge coincidence. too much of it makes sense. and I agree with ruin being a trap, the epilogue of that book is eerily similar to Gregory’s voice lines. fantastic job! this really is all seeming to start coming together

[@whattheheckdani]

this is insaneeee!! it completely changes everything we thought we knew, and that is why i love your theories!!! you bring so many new ideas to the table. i am constantly blown away by your creativity. much love!

[@emeraldnickel]

To add a little to this theory: in Sister Location, Baby (Charlie? Mimic1?) instructs you to put the chip in your Hand Unit. After that, whatever it is can talk to you anywhere. The Hand Unit may have been "infected" by the program then recovered somehow, based on the usage of the same voice in Pizzeria Simulator. In addition, Ennard talks like Baby in the third person but it is technically a new entity, and in addition, it most likely possesses the mimicry properties of Funtime Freddy, explaining why it still has her voice while technically not being her or Elizabeth and thus referring to them in the third person.

[@ItsRubyLIVE]

i’m here after playing ruin and i think u are pretty much spot on, it all links- the baby room?!? linking to sister location and the charlie virus the mimic leading cassie to the bottom sinkhole into the pizzeria the turning off the security that is trapping the charlie and mimic virus and the scooper ending ahhh

[@yte4323]

The fact I thought the same about the chip baby gave us. Like there was more to it. I just didn't know if I had enough evidence or how to prove it, here we are John doing it. It makes sense keep up the great work John!

[@StanleyG23]

Really excited for MatPat's eventual Reaction to this that's going to be split into 3 Parts with each Part being about an Hour in length.

[@l0uisinana]

i usually have trouble keeping up with the theories but this one is so cohesive to me i was with you from start to finish in this video. love this !! can’t wait for more from you once the new content comes out

[@rosetea5899]

When you said green and purple I audibly gasped. Somehow, this was all the evidence I needed to agree with the theory

[@roguepilot_]

Something that always intrigued me about Baby is that she's the only animatronic that is actually on Aftons side. Elizabeth seems to enjoy being the monster her dad made her, but I think Baby's personality is just the result of Elizabeths soul and Baby's murderous A.I competing for control of the body

[@CottonCandySharks]

This was a REALLY good theory, like maybe the best ive ever heard. We all forgot about that chip, just assuming it was a lie. And many think that Baby, as the child, would make sense as the one to copycat William. So mimic, the baby and the copycat, would be perfect for her. And you managed to put it all together so cleanly!

[@babyjoji888]

I love how theories change with a small detail, I really like watching these types of videos. I love the different ways of approaching the story. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽

[@BatouOfNexus]

Great job on this video and the recap at the end really helped tie it all together. This was much easier to understand how it ties into the overall story and why it matters for me as well.

[@Yarner2424]

Ever since the Ruin trailer came out, I've thought the "Gregory" voice is the Mimic. Way too long for Gregory to still be there.

[@Sir_Stick]

Bro got the entire plot of Ruin right, except for the Bonnie endo, because you can see dead Bonnie with his endo still in there.

[@Dragonoid9810]

Every time there's a new theory made for the FNAF franchise, it always makes me wonder what Scott really did have in mind all the way back when he released the first 4 games lol

[@divine-s]

I honestly love FNAF theories and the theorists that take action into them. There’s so much lore that’s yet to solve but the theorists help us solve to make what sense of the lore. It’s just amazing how theorists like John take small pieces and make them into bigger stories and conceptions that it’s easier for us viewers to understand. Amazing job as always.

[@ultef4]

super compelling theory! i gotta admit, that chip on night 5 always sticks out to me as odd when i watch playthroughs, but i always forget about it afterwards because its such a small detail

[@ripleydepp]

i love how you deliver such in depth and amazing theories while maintaining a likeable, wholesome persona. i'm very glad you decided to start this channel and i wish you the best of luck

[@ItsmeAarushGameZ]

You solved ruin before it even came out! Appreciate it man!

[@KingTaco374]

I absolutely love this channel because my favorite part of game theory is the FNAF theories, and with this channel, it is like ALL FNAF theories and at game theory quality too!! Love this.

[@saintblues]

Genuinely can't miss any of John's videos. It's what keep me entertained while I wash the dishes 😭

[@midnightshadow4050]

Love your theories! I get so invested in them each time

[@Lostvaynne]

bro was SPOT ON with the ruin being a trap story😭😭😭

[@crybaby_puppeteer]

When I saw the Ruin trailer, I immediately knew that the voice we were hearing wasn't Gregory. It just didn't make sense for it to be Gregory.

[@aubergineman3205]

OH MY GOD! I'll admit i wasn't a big fan of the mimic at first, but if there's a possibility they're taking lose ends and smaller dialogue into consideration from SL when creating this story I'm all for it! I liked the Charlie virus thing and the prospect of her and William actually bonded as one singular being is crazy. She's been corrupted

[@banananan8648]

Video starts at 0:00 👍

[@CindyHuskyGirl]

Tysm i needed that

[@aethcat]

thx

[@Its_Rinny]

Omg tysm!! I could NOT for the life of me figure out when it started, so tysm :)

[@c0rrupted235]

Thanks

[@axolah]

😭🤣🤣

[@alphacatte]

7:26 a small issue with this part: baby isn't talking during night 5 of sister location. when she's rolled away into the scooping room, you can see ennard standing behind her. that seems like a very clear sign that it's ennard pretending to be baby to gain your trust before he leads you to the scooping room to kill you.

[@NK_Slasher]

the way he predicted that the mimic is tricking cassie to get out cuz he was trapped in the sinkhole under roxy raceway

[@Iislorax]

He just predicted everything except Bonnie but bro

[@Nasuto1702]

Holy goose. as soon as John talked about Charlies plushy, and I realised he was talking about Theodore, my mouth literally fell open, that was such a great twist. I always thought Theodore had to be more important than he actually was. The books focussed alot on him and he even got a Funko pop.

[@Garanseho]

0:38 "This is just a theory." Me (and Mat when he eventually reacts to this): "A gAmE tHEoRy!!1!!1!"

[@freeuploads4290]

It hurts even more, seeing as MatPat is leaving KZbin.😢

[@faether1429]

I am glad you are making your own theories.

[@rakeshsuthanthirakumar2613]

15:39 yooo...... it got me goosebumps , and wow , im awestruck by the theory building you have

[@sagepirate5302]

Your theory of Charolette being made by Henry and stolen by William is already confirmed in The Fourth Closet.

[@nerdyworld938]

As matpat brilliantly pointed out this is all about good vs evil… who will prevail? That’s what ruin will be and I’m all for it!!

[@Kuriin]

I look forward to each of your videos, John. I was an early believer of your theories and it seems like it's actually happening. Keep them coming!

[@Hilo-gk3ix]

13:41 seems very similar to the Ruin DLC which would definitely make sense with the theory on what Ruin will be about. I assume Gregory is speaking on a radio to send the message out since he also uses one in game to communicate. He’s asking for help from Cassy because he’s trapped at the pizzaplex… It’s the mimic

[@shaquilleoatmeal640]

Bro figured out ruin's story before it even came out 💀

[@SC-N1GHT]

Ok, I don’t know if it’s just me, but when he’s talking about the server room in the pizzaplex, I can’t be the only one who saw the writing on the staff bot, right? It’s at 6:26, and the writing on the staff bots says ‘In your dreams’, a connection to nightmarrione.

[@medea738]

12:20 "got the Sparknotes of Afton's Greatest Hits" LMAO