Fog of War Chess | GM Hikaru's First Ever Game

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3 жыл бұрын

GM Hikaru Nakamura learns how to play Fog of War vs IM Levy Rozman
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@GMHikaru
@GMHikaru 3 жыл бұрын
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@susankaranam3090
@susankaranam3090 3 жыл бұрын
Okkkk...
@skridalthcrevasse2388
@skridalthcrevasse2388 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hikaru Nakamura, when doing mental calculations of plausible/possible lines, do you mentally visualize the chess pieces in 2-Dimensional form, as is the case for numerous virtual chess games, or in 3-Dimensional form, as is the case for in-person gameplay?
@becalm23
@becalm23 3 жыл бұрын
Levi seeing Hikaru's side right?
@smithsmitherson9449
@smithsmitherson9449 3 жыл бұрын
a
@yosefzaghi9504
@yosefzaghi9504 3 жыл бұрын
500th like
@sagov9
@sagov9 3 жыл бұрын
"I lost because you didn't play the right move, why are you so bad at this game."
@wiselettuce8715
@wiselettuce8715 3 жыл бұрын
The classic toxic super GM kekw
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 3 жыл бұрын
naa man, happens in poker all the time, its legit reasoning, you literally can win because and only because you played badly, now that deoesnt mean playing badly is a good strategy because it isnt in the long term.
@sagov9
@sagov9 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcpartridgeboy well unless you reason that playing 'badly' in a certain situation will mislead the opponent in a way that makes him lose, then it's not playing badly.
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@sagov9 It is definatly playing badly in poker , its just you need to ajust for that, like in poker when your playing bad players its pretty simple you just wait for good cards and value bet, maybe not semi blind chess but its hard to believe a solid game plan is worse than a goofy move.
@sagov9
@sagov9 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcpartridgeboy You're missing my point. If you know how the opponent thinks, you can use 'suboptimal' play to mislead him. It's a valid strategy in games like this and poker, and not 'goofy' at all.
@zhandrmax740
@zhandrmax740 3 жыл бұрын
The funniest fact, that when you hang your piece, your opponent might think that it is protected from the fog. So some risky moves can be strong in differnt cases
@johnk3841
@johnk3841 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@johnk3841
@johnk3841 3 жыл бұрын
Though usually people trade when they see a piece unless they're capturing with the queen or rook then they'll be more hesitant
@kockoklosharcheto
@kockoklosharcheto 3 жыл бұрын
Bluffing in chess
@meepmeep3874
@meepmeep3874 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they talked about exactly this in the video.
@googane7755
@googane7755 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if you're trading a bishop or a knight for any of their pieces you're usually fine in most cases. Would be more worried about queens though
@h3ms
@h3ms 3 жыл бұрын
In this game, psychology is more important than tactics.
@meowmeow1786
@meowmeow1786 3 жыл бұрын
Yep exactly it yeah.
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity 3 жыл бұрын
Eh I say LOS is everything. Not having sight in this game is the equivalent of death.
@toshikosatoru8483
@toshikosatoru8483 3 жыл бұрын
this should be another version of poker.
@doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032
@doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032 3 жыл бұрын
Psychology is the most important part of true tactics. Asymmetrical information ftw
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 3 жыл бұрын
Simply not true
@joshboy88420
@joshboy88420 3 жыл бұрын
Watching masters of chess playing this game is hilarious. Years of devotion and training out the window in a way no other version of the game has ever done.
@Jjb-gk4ce
@Jjb-gk4ce 3 жыл бұрын
Chess960 will throw that training out the window too
@Pharoic
@Pharoic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jjb-gk4ce 960 eventually simplifies into a *relatively* normal game after trading. It throws things off in the openings, but you still have full info of the opponent's moves. This forces them to think about the whole game differently.
@RAGEN99
@RAGEN99 3 жыл бұрын
What about 5D chess
@kissanoita255
@kissanoita255 3 жыл бұрын
It is actually 5D chess, but if you look it at that way normal chess is 3D
@doommaker4000
@doommaker4000 3 жыл бұрын
@@kissanoita255 Is it really? I mean, you do play on a time axis, but there is no such wacky things you can do with timelines.
@PossumMedic
@PossumMedic 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru: "Why do you suck so bad?!?" Levy: *wins Twice* xD
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@Serfdomftw
@Serfdomftw 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru "Why dont you play better so i can predict your moves/the position" "This is frustrating"
@realbignoob1886
@realbignoob1886 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr xD
@zeichofreed79
@zeichofreed79 Жыл бұрын
The enemy can't predicy you if you don't know what you are doing, tsunzu probably
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@aryanprakash1048
@aryanprakash1048 3 жыл бұрын
“The capture sound still exists. Otherwise it does not.” -Levy 2020
@rhettzkie
@rhettzkie 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like agadmator quote. 😂
@aryanprakash1048
@aryanprakash1048 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhettzkie Sure does haha. Agadmator's best moments.
@wcg3928
@wcg3928 3 жыл бұрын
Levy* not Levi Ackerman from AoT
@aryanprakash1048
@aryanprakash1048 3 жыл бұрын
@@wcg3928 oh I got autocorrected lol
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@3zk1i_93
@3zk1i_93 3 жыл бұрын
so weird seeing Levy just talk to Hikaru for 15 minutes without Hikaru ever saying anything back
@ijemand5672
@ijemand5672 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he speaks English
@ayoutubecommenter7494
@ayoutubecommenter7494 Жыл бұрын
@@ijemand5672 I laughed way too hard on this reply 😂
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@user-um9dc3zl6v
@user-um9dc3zl6v Жыл бұрын
@@ijemand5672 lol😂😂😂
@itwasinthispositionerinoag7414
@itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 3 жыл бұрын
This is a cool variant, not even gonna try and wrap my head around the strategy involved but it seems like bishops should be OP due to their scoping ability
@AayushSaxena07
@AayushSaxena07 3 жыл бұрын
And knights too because of their unique moving pattern without getting visible
@ernestrobinson8441
@ernestrobinson8441 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems like a good strategy would be to fianchetto both bishops and keep rooks on open files to maximize visibility.
@remussayed1007
@remussayed1007 3 жыл бұрын
Fianchetto hippo position seems to be the best opening position.
@egor6946
@egor6946 3 жыл бұрын
Remus Sayed maybe with more active knights
@kekwe3088
@kekwe3088 3 жыл бұрын
Knights can sneak up on the queen tho
@moltargaltar1219
@moltargaltar1219 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru’s eyes roll back into his head to look at the crystal ball inside his head “I think I know the exact positions, btw”
@thewon9633
@thewon9633 Жыл бұрын
XD and then looses 2 games while his chat calls him toxic
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@tillburr6799
@tillburr6799 9 ай бұрын
@@Baggerz182 no
@johngrey1074
@johngrey1074 3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see the strategies that DeepMind or Stockfish would come up with to play fog of war chess.
@muchograndeyolatengo
@muchograndeyolatengo 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be cool. You can't use either of them though, since they both rely heavily on traversing the game tree, which you can't do with so much imperfect information. You look one move ahead and the game tree instantly scatters and you're left with nothing. Alpha Zero could possibly make some tiny sense of the game since it consists of two components and can therefore remove one (the Monte Carlo Search Tree) without driving itself into complete irrelevance. It would then rely completely on its neural network making predictions for the next move only and would most likely as a result be extremely stupid and light years from the Alpha Zero we know. Especially since its psychological perception of the game is gathered through self play, so it would probably be pretty bad at predicting the moves of a human player. On top of that, it doesn't track the move history, since it's irrelevant in a normal game of chess where all you need is the current board state to make your decisions. In a game like this (similar to poker), you need the move history in order to look for patterns that can help you get a broad sense of the board position.
@TheAmazingCowpig
@TheAmazingCowpig 3 жыл бұрын
Well, AlphaStar managed to play StarCraft, which is mechanically+environmentally more complex than chess due to having fog of war and being real-time, and so was the next logical environment for DeepMind's exploration of AI playing games. So DeepMind has already explored an learning neural network AI traversing an environment with incomplete information. That said, there was also a sort of consensus about AlphaStar's performance in StarCraft that it still wasn't quite truly the top grandmaster-professional player level in terms of tactics, but rather just that it was able to brute force the best of players through raw, mechanical skill in its management abilities, and that anyone that could execute a unique enough plan solidly enough could still blindside the AI if it wasn't something the neural net could account for (even over thousands of training hours and years worth of knowledge). However, given the more limited scope of the movements available in chess compared to a video game RTS, I'd imagine that a DeepMind-like AI would be able to handle it rather well, once it was given enough information and training time.
@muchograndeyolatengo
@muchograndeyolatengo 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingCowpig Or said in another way: (I might have been a bit foggy in my explanation) Starcraft is close to being deterministic, meaning that you can look hundreds or even thousands of "moves" ahead and have a pretty good sense of what the game state looks like. On the other hand looking just 2 or 3 moves ahead in this chess variant and you have absolutely no idea of what the game state is. You could be up 3 pieces or you could be down a queen.
@TheAmazingCowpig
@TheAmazingCowpig 3 жыл бұрын
muchograndeyolatengo I don't think Starcraft would be significantly more deterministic than Fog of War chess. Any time a player does not have vision of their opponent, they have incomplete information about how to act; information gathering is a core facet of all strategy games, from this version of chess to video game RTSs. 2 or 3 moves in FoW chess could be equated to 2 minutes into the future in a Starcraft game. While the exact rules and consequences differ, DeepMind has already created the AI that tackles having incomplete information about the game state (as a progression from AlphaZero that did have complete information about the game state at all times). So, a DeepMind AI for FoW chess would probably look something similar to AlphaStar.
@muchograndeyolatengo
@muchograndeyolatengo 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheAmazingCowpig The only incomplete information the AI has in Starcraft is the opponent's build order. Everything else is perfectly visible (including all the battles). So it can excel at everythign else through self training (build order, resoruce management, micro etc.) And if I recall from the matches I've seen, the AI seriously lacks in strategic understanding but makes up for it in perfect micro. We are talking about two completely different domains here. You can' really represent a game of FoW chess with a tree. It's just not possible. The only thing you can train is a standard opening, but that's really exploitable unless you add noise to the input vector or do some other kind of magic. You can't train it to understand the move patterns of human opponents of different strengths through self play. Because humans are not gonna think the same way, which again makes it inherently exploitable. But we're talking in circles here. I'm not gonna convince you and you are not gonna convince me. So I'll let you have the last say and then I'm gonna retreat :)
@angelhanna2917
@angelhanna2917 3 жыл бұрын
"why are you so bad?" 5 seconds later... **Gets obliterated**
@Kolop315
@Kolop315 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like Hikaru just couldn't unlearn(in only 2 games who could tbf) some things that just don't apply when you can't see. You can see him running through a ton of positions in his head while Levy is just kind of chilling, which I find pretty hilarious.
@temkin9298
@temkin9298 Жыл бұрын
Levy is me when I am playing casually with limited time. ;D My opponent tries so hard to understand my moves while I just go with the flow. However if there is no time limit, I would get beaten easily.
@na.meless
@na.meless Жыл бұрын
yeah fr lol
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@GoldTheAngel
@GoldTheAngel 3 жыл бұрын
That Advance Wars thumbnail is actually golden.
@nvat5569
@nvat5569 3 жыл бұрын
yep, i clicked because of that
@achillesmichael5705
@achillesmichael5705 3 жыл бұрын
Yellow guy was OP
@kymab.5172
@kymab.5172 3 жыл бұрын
@@achillesmichael5705 wait what does he do again? Like all his units are stronger, or smth? All i remember is that his co power gives me headaches.
@flop3869
@flop3869 3 жыл бұрын
My god the Nostalgia.... I loved that game
@projack5617
@projack5617 3 жыл бұрын
@@nvat5569 we all did u.u
@yudoball
@yudoball 3 жыл бұрын
Capturing the king without enemy knowing that he was in check is like getting backdoored by evelynn
@linczas.-.68
@linczas.-.68 3 жыл бұрын
Xd
@alessandromorelli5866
@alessandromorelli5866 3 жыл бұрын
when she oneshots your adc and leaves
@jojoxiong4664
@jojoxiong4664 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf, lol comments here?
@neilpanganiban272
@neilpanganiban272 3 жыл бұрын
u mean flanked? coz backdoor is taking the nexus right.
@jojoxiong4664
@jojoxiong4664 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilpanganiban272 nah, you can backdoor as evelynn cuz she can go invisible given that the inhib and nexus turrets are down
@xendurr8180
@xendurr8180 3 жыл бұрын
It's really funny when Hikaru's thinking. Seems like he's possessed or something.
@meowmeow1786
@meowmeow1786 3 жыл бұрын
He's trying to access that part of his brain like: 👀 🧠 🔚
@kingjensen8091
@kingjensen8091 3 жыл бұрын
Ceiling demon
@CH3LS3A
@CH3LS3A 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingjensen8091 using stockfish on the ceiling WeirdChamp
@jimraynor4383
@jimraynor4383 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru : "Levy why are you so bad at this game" Also Hikaru: loses twice in a row
@highkage9535
@highkage9535 3 жыл бұрын
Now we'll just wait for 4 Player Fog of War Chess.
@Jivvi
@Jivvi 2 жыл бұрын
2v2 would be great. You team up with the person opposite you, you can see their pieces and the squares they can see, and you have to capture both the other kings to win.
@AdaptiveApeHybrid
@AdaptiveApeHybrid Жыл бұрын
6v6
@mtganalytic9796
@mtganalytic9796 Жыл бұрын
Why not battleground for 100 ppl? Xd
@anturanggatantra2137
@anturanggatantra2137 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is like real life war. Information of position is the most important. And then formulating strategy out of the information while predicting opponent moves
@johnk3841
@johnk3841 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is more like real war. You dont have all the info in a war. Just like you said, the more info you have the better your chances of winning. Unlike regular chess where everyone can see what's going on
@steve-ks9df
@steve-ks9df 3 жыл бұрын
well in ancient warfare guerilla tactics were less often used, and opponent armies met on the open battlefield. So this is more like modern warfare, chess is like ancient warfare
@34BigPete
@34BigPete 3 жыл бұрын
The board game Stratego has similar elements to warfare and this variant as well.
@steve-ks9df
@steve-ks9df 3 жыл бұрын
@VIKING AT THE BRIDGE WHOM GAVE HIS BALLS TO BRITS First of all, Sun Tzu wasn't from a million years ago lol. are you not English native speaker? He died about 2500 years ago. But yea, of course there were spies, etc. in ancient warfare. But again, chess is *more* like ancient warfare than modern warfare.
@Boricosa
@Boricosa 3 жыл бұрын
@VIKING AT THE BRIDGE WHOM GAVE HIS BALLS TO BRITS irony is not really a good thing to use when trying to correct someone
@h-0058
@h-0058 3 жыл бұрын
"Your queen was just there in my territory the whole time!" Hikaru: "Mhm... Yeah... Sure..."
@superman2j3
@superman2j3 Жыл бұрын
Levy is having way too much fun and hikaru is just calculating the whole time lol
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@rumpupoika
@rumpupoika 3 жыл бұрын
"When playing others streamers streamsniping isnt a problem" - Levi, when Hikaru clearly has Levis stream open on secret monitor on ceiling :P
@pro-11-brawlstars68
@pro-11-brawlstars68 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@stevemcintosh9381
@stevemcintosh9381 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the “Ah! Jesus!” When levy sees the queen just chillin in between all the pawns
@Tehom1
@Tehom1 3 жыл бұрын
At 13:27 it seems a very big advantage to exchange queens deep in opponent's territory. Beyond them losing castling rights, you get to see a substantial part of their current position while they see nothing of yours.
@rexex345
@rexex345 Жыл бұрын
The queen effectively becomes your scout, where it's better to use it to get valuable info than take things or pressure.
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@nickharvey5975
@nickharvey5975 Жыл бұрын
I wish you could see the pieces move through the fog of war, like a rook sweeping past a queen's vision
@Baggerz182
@Baggerz182 Жыл бұрын
repent unto God
@shmoop_da_shmoop2870
@shmoop_da_shmoop2870 Жыл бұрын
@@Baggerz182 no
@symmaxayouto
@symmaxayouto 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would be cool.
@killereagle666
@killereagle666 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Hikaru was expecting Levy to play theory, got played, and then got rude with him to protect his ego. This variant looks sooo fun.
@koolguy728
@koolguy728 3 жыл бұрын
"Got rude" is a bit of an over reaction. I don't think he was being rude at all. Just trying to understand the thought process.
@anonymoussecret5948
@anonymoussecret5948 3 жыл бұрын
He said “ok but why are you so bad at the game.” Stop defending this toxic GM. Such a fragile ego
@shoobyshooby725
@shoobyshooby725 3 жыл бұрын
@Anonymous secret yeahhhhh don’t know if “toxic” is the right word when at the most he’s just bantering with a friend. You can stop talking like yesterday.
@demicolon9255
@demicolon9255 3 жыл бұрын
@RamblingDuck cry more
@howridiculous5346
@howridiculous5346 3 жыл бұрын
@RamblingDuck yeah man you're right... stop rambling now lol
@littlecutething2686
@littlecutething2686 3 жыл бұрын
hikaru should try advance war
@ovalsrawesome7645
@ovalsrawesome7645 3 жыл бұрын
This was such a deep cut to my childhood. I haven’t thought of this game in years
@chiiing8288
@chiiing8288 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this. make a map with pre deployed units!
@SonicsniperV7
@SonicsniperV7 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Seconded.
@Finigini
@Finigini 3 жыл бұрын
I would love this. I wonder if he has ever heard of Advance Wars.
@peterhardie4151
@peterhardie4151 3 жыл бұрын
Colin Sasha... Grit... great game.
@chungusballs
@chungusballs 3 жыл бұрын
"I feel like after among us, this will be the next thing" levy the fortune teller
@rama7731
@rama7731 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently its not that fun
@dasamont8274
@dasamont8274 Жыл бұрын
@@rama7731 It's probably more fun when you're talking to the other person, because then you can bluff and such things. Also, it could be fun to combine this with 4-player chess, there's no chance that you could predict what every player is doing, so you'd just have to play as well as possible with the information you could see. Especially if you also couldn't see if another player lost, and potentially also their colours, so you'd only see your own pieces and the enemy pieces, with no way to tell which player is threatening you.
@user-de1gi8wh4s
@user-de1gi8wh4s Жыл бұрын
Amongus amonus
@BlakeSeely57
@BlakeSeely57 Жыл бұрын
Look it where we are today
@pjbutton3396
@pjbutton3396 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so, SO HAPPY that literally ANYONE is acknowledging Advance Wars!
@jkid1134
@jkid1134 3 жыл бұрын
Every day we stray closer to YuGiOh
@mightybatillo
@mightybatillo 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something similar the other day. About the fan made pieces like the unicorn and pegasus and how you can add more stuff up till you end with a MOBA or RTS game 🤯
@mlgproplayer2915
@mlgproplayer2915 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@louistully8025
@louistully8025 3 жыл бұрын
When we going to get a chess anime?xD
@erickrisdatuin8663
@erickrisdatuin8663 3 жыл бұрын
@@mightybatillo that's the downside of becoming popular nowadays, if you consider it a downside.. On the bright side, Chess is becoming more popular.
@Senneih_cram
@Senneih_cram 3 жыл бұрын
Wdym yugioh xD
@andrewj.2516
@andrewj.2516 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 these eyes are blowing
@Unknownuser-vq9ul
@Unknownuser-vq9ul 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that ADVANCE WARS thumbnail reference 11/10
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing Levy be the master here. Won't be long before Hikaru shifts his thinking a bit and gets insane. Much like that excellent thumbnail. Advance Wars is one of my favorite game series.
@tigerfloof
@tigerfloof 3 жыл бұрын
God I was so hoping Hikaru was actually playing AW2 PVP
@josephzeigler6853
@josephzeigler6853 3 жыл бұрын
Rip
@achillesmichael5705
@achillesmichael5705 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I love those games.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 3 жыл бұрын
69 likes
@drewsywensky1446
@drewsywensky1446 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ggghjk5280
@ggghjk5280 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru: “I’m pretty sure I know exactly where your pieces are” Also Hikaru: 7:52
@aduck968
@aduck968 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@homie_official4569
@homie_official4569 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaaa
@NexenTriz
@NexenTriz 3 жыл бұрын
Chess where one pawn can secretly move like a king.
@alldetected3106
@alldetected3106 3 жыл бұрын
I peeped that too 🤔
@oOPPHOo
@oOPPHOo 3 жыл бұрын
Less exciting, but I was wondering about chess with sorta "beginner intuitive" rules. No en passant, no castling(!), and the queen can also move like the knight.
@nikodemg6608
@nikodemg6608 3 жыл бұрын
oO PPH Oo That sounds even worse than the one pawn that can move like a king
@oOPPHOo
@oOPPHOo 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikodemg6608 Full disclosure: I'm not aiming for a fun mode. It would be an experiment to see exactly how much those rules matter. Probably a very messy experiment. Until quarantine began and I jumped on the twitch chess hype, I didn't actually know how castling worked (though opponents of mine had used it) and I had never even heard of en passant. I'd be curious to see the "meta" with those sorta rules.
@forminecraft2067
@forminecraft2067 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Levi and Hikaru at 1500 rating feels illegal
@highkage9535
@highkage9535 3 жыл бұрын
They just had a completely different game in their heads on 15:47 GMs are no joke.
@filipkogut8533
@filipkogut8533 2 жыл бұрын
Levy is not a GM
@namesakee
@namesakee 3 жыл бұрын
higher rated than Hikaru ... yes !!! Let me have the moment guys ...pls
@namesakee
@namesakee 3 жыл бұрын
I'm elated Mr Hikaru ... Big fan.
@RubyPiec
@RubyPiec 3 жыл бұрын
What
@TheRaspberryFlavored
@TheRaspberryFlavored 3 жыл бұрын
>Levy trying to explain the rules >Hikaru interrupting him "YEAh yeah yeah I understand" >Doesn't understand
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best version of chess that I've ever seen! This needs to become a thing between GM's!
@SizzlingSquiggle
@SizzlingSquiggle 2 жыл бұрын
Ive watched this video like 3 times since it's publish. I love it so much. Please play more of this variant with other people
@zada4a
@zada4a 3 жыл бұрын
I have a strategy for this version, where you move all pawns just 1 space up and move the rooks over to one side. Everything is defended and you let your opponent do the mistakes. Then you strike and push Harry the H pawn.
@pewpewpandas9203
@pewpewpandas9203 3 жыл бұрын
Arnold, Ben, Chad, Darrel, Ernie, Frank, Garry, Harold (Harry)
@Asdayasman
@Asdayasman 3 жыл бұрын
Until that becomes the dominant strategy and people counter that.
@lalithasrividhara6205
@lalithasrividhara6205 3 жыл бұрын
Then gets scholar mated
@lucasmatsuoca
@lucasmatsuoca 3 жыл бұрын
my first game i played c3, got my queen out and was moving it around the 3rd rank and 4th rank when it was safe by previous info i got, then by move 12 or 13 my opponent hang his king, lol, never played since this first game, 100% win rate here
@Jivvi
@Jivvi 2 жыл бұрын
a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3 Ra2 Rah2 h4 h5 h6 h7 h8=Q#
@apasi4247
@apasi4247 3 жыл бұрын
this is the best type of strategy war games, because its add the unknown variable into the equation
@Jose-or3hq
@Jose-or3hq 3 жыл бұрын
Really like that Advance Wars 2 reference int the thumbnail.
@frostwaffy
@frostwaffy 3 жыл бұрын
I need more of this. The thrill is so good.
@Polaris5664
@Polaris5664 3 жыл бұрын
We now need Chess with commanders who give buffs to certain pieces.
@Ministevo1
@Ministevo1 2 жыл бұрын
Chess Evolved has that concept (but there a lot of other crazy things there so... yeah)
@psychoticmortacarn
@psychoticmortacarn 2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY love the emphasis on bluffing that comes with this mode, it really flips the whole game on its head
@ejvaz13
@ejvaz13 Жыл бұрын
Hikaru and Levi playing a third game in their head while playing the second game is amazing! Wish I could play just in my head.
@IchBinUnschuldig22
@IchBinUnschuldig22 3 жыл бұрын
More of this please, I really enjoyed it.
@LithmusEarth
@LithmusEarth Жыл бұрын
Hikaru is super impressive, his ability to mentalize the entire game there. [This is actually my second time watching this, oh man, yep.]
@azimpetra
@azimpetra 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned about this variant, is that people make 'inefficient moves' that you wouldn't do in normal chess. To hide your pieces that your opponent piece discovered(sight).
@newbie4789
@newbie4789 Жыл бұрын
Just realised that the E1/e8 queen exchange is a strong move in this version. The person doing the exchange will get lots of information and most likely no more castling
@AtomicArtumas
@AtomicArtumas 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like early queen movement is exceedingly powerful due to her vision. Even something as simple as knowing the first 3-4 moves your opponent made could allow you to feasibly counter their entire game, so even if you end up losing the queen, you could come out significantly ahead.
@NormCantoral
@NormCantoral 3 жыл бұрын
ohhh ok. now this I can get into. this should be a variant in some kind of tournament !!!
@rodneybrown2364
@rodneybrown2364 3 жыл бұрын
you two are hilarious together. The facial expressions are so fun! I feel like Kasparov with that "flabbergasted and flummoxed" look at the board was the proto-meme to these highly advanced memes you both wield.
@lg-hw5tk
@lg-hw5tk 3 жыл бұрын
"After among us, this will be the next thing.." Uh huh..
@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan
@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan Жыл бұрын
I wish there was more of this. Fun to watch :D
@smithsmitherson9449
@smithsmitherson9449 3 жыл бұрын
The best thumb nail ever. I will play this video a million times to give it more views and comment every single comment to boost the odds of more brilliant art like this thumbnail.
@BNavazoS
@BNavazoS 3 жыл бұрын
It makes me really happy that people still remembers that piece of art Advance Wars (1 or 2, both are great).
@laegu5430
@laegu5430 3 жыл бұрын
It scares me how quickly this turned into an info battle
@tusharjamwal
@tusharjamwal 3 жыл бұрын
This is so dank I was imagining that I'm watching the board from Levy's perspective and the commentary still made sense to me
@UnreliableUsername
@UnreliableUsername 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love them Hikaru facial expressions while thinking/calculating hahaha
@davidp.7620
@davidp.7620 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how on his first game he could figure out where almost every piece of his opponent was
@lelouchvibritannia1919
@lelouchvibritannia1919 3 жыл бұрын
and still lost
@insertjokeh3r3
@insertjokeh3r3 3 жыл бұрын
The advance wars thumbnail was amazing to see.
@niaissathel6345
@niaissathel6345 3 жыл бұрын
BIG ups for the Advance Wars reference. This channel's editor(s) is/are truly a man of culture.
@grantschneider205
@grantschneider205 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they both keep looking up at the ceiling
@geometricart7851
@geometricart7851 3 жыл бұрын
"you know Hikaru is serious when he's not speaking" "I'm just not saying anything because I don't know where your rook is going" LOL
@krishgarg2806
@krishgarg2806 Жыл бұрын
At the beginning, Levi should have just said, you can only see squares you can move to. Would have been much easier to understand.
@its2three4
@its2three4 3 жыл бұрын
love the use of advanced wars in the thumbnail here!
@briankelly1240
@briankelly1240 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Advance Wars is not completely forgotten! What got me into video games
@shortmarkets7529
@shortmarkets7529 3 жыл бұрын
Levy: hi Hikaru;: you gave me to much information you lose
@TheMarksT
@TheMarksT 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 Brave Queen! Interesting concept here, gg. Lol. Thrilling to watch in a way. Thx.
@standard-carrier-wo-chan
@standard-carrier-wo-chan Жыл бұрын
Hikaru struggling to unlearn decades of regular chess. Welcome to your glimpse of how being an actual field army commander feels, Hikky
@Jeffrey_Tyler
@Jeffrey_Tyler Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Whoever came up with this is brilliant 😂
@kipu44
@kipu44 3 жыл бұрын
"A wild Horsea has appeared." :-D
@Fanofstuff
@Fanofstuff 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like in this game, the queen is even more valuable than any other piece beacuse it gives the most vision, and positions are seemingly kind of reduced in importance vs having vision of what is going on so you can get into a better position. very spicy game, looks fun
@TheMaskedMeowth
@TheMaskedMeowth 3 жыл бұрын
more fow chess pls!! i love this
@Crustmajor
@Crustmajor 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Thumbnail Hikaru, I loved that game as a kid.
@ThatBigGuy824
@ThatBigGuy824 3 жыл бұрын
The other day I was watching Rosen play fog of war thinking "I can't wait to see Hikaru play this" Now my dreams have come true
@jdawg8427
@jdawg8427 3 жыл бұрын
13:45 "When did i have Tacos?"
@Yamikaiba123
@Yamikaiba123 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Hikaru has to look away and visualize the board, in order to see PREVIOUS turns.
@NarayanAT
@NarayanAT 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool way to play chess. Very enjoyable video watching Hikaru think so much.
@eliascarlosmoralesheinke5186
@eliascarlosmoralesheinke5186 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru just had a screen with Gotham’s stream on the ceiling that’s why he knew where the pieces are
@thanhnguyenduy6306
@thanhnguyenduy6306 3 жыл бұрын
One of those gamemode the wooden shield is actually op.
@mikhailzaruykin663
@mikhailzaruykin663 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I see you are an expert in juicer placement as well
@spurs_7798
@spurs_7798 3 жыл бұрын
wooden shield is always op
@alexdellaschiava4224
@alexdellaschiava4224 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD THE THUMBNAIL! Advanced Wars! The memories!
@Toasty_93
@Toasty_93 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the analysis when they can see the whole board just looks like every 600 game of chess.
@samuelzachary8396
@samuelzachary8396 2 жыл бұрын
the mind games are so good, I imagine this is waay more fun with high level players.
@royalghost4914
@royalghost4914 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he used Kanbei and Andy from Advance wars, a gba game known for it's fog of war for the thumbnail is just awesome! Hikaru are you an Advance wars fan as well?
@tobibecker5723
@tobibecker5723 Жыл бұрын
Every 1200 just plays this game Hikaru takes it absolutely serious and makes a blindfolded game out of it
@LuxuryLeet
@LuxuryLeet 3 жыл бұрын
just seeing that thumbnail brought back so many memories....
@ujustinree2987
@ujustinree2987 3 жыл бұрын
"I feel like after among us this will be the next thing"
@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860
@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 3 жыл бұрын
This game mode makes things far more interesting, it trully turns chess into a war game, with information being just as valuable as the position itself. It also allows for way riskier stragegies, since you can eat the king.
@logan1609
@logan1609 Жыл бұрын
Every time Hikaru made a crazy move Levi couldn’t help but freak out 😂😂love Levi
@matttondr9282
@matttondr9282 Жыл бұрын
Hikaru lecturing Levy after losing twice in a row 💀
@Rhovanion85
@Rhovanion85 2 жыл бұрын
The fact Chess Grandmasters played Advance Wars just warms my heart.
@kristian9k3g99
@kristian9k3g99 3 жыл бұрын
More of this. Please. I think this is really interesting. Can you get both sides for the you-tube instead of just using the twitch vod?
@orlypejr
@orlypejr 6 ай бұрын
I love how you guys innovate this game. Fog of war in chess is genius! I also love the 4 way chess battle you guys did. Amazing.
@aurumvulpes2511
@aurumvulpes2511 3 жыл бұрын
This variant is OUTSTANDING
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