Folding Knife Locks Ranked From "A" To "F"

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Metal Complex

Metal Complex

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@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
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@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
The total amount of blade tang the lock bar is engaging 👍
@hinklehymer6893
@hinklehymer6893 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who edc's a Cold Steel Recon 1,your rankings for the Triad lock are spot on imo
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Жыл бұрын
Except some are as easy to deliberately unlock as a simple lock back, and some models are beasts to unlock.
@XGurro
@XGurro 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot the GREATEST lock of all time... The Ring Lock popularized by Opinel. Solid "Rank A"! And we know you own one 😉
@MayhemMechanic
@MayhemMechanic 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, I couldn't help but notice that greatest knife of all time was missing🤣
@tomt5745
@tomt5745 Жыл бұрын
Opinel is just genious in its simplicity. The blade snaps before the ring calls home to mother to say bye-bye :)
@bigbraingametime2085
@bigbraingametime2085 3 жыл бұрын
I love the ball lock on the manix 2
@WaterDrinker011
@WaterDrinker011 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Flips so nice
@chrismeeks7707
@chrismeeks7707 Ай бұрын
The AD20.5 is such an amazing knife. I have the model with 3V blade steel and was lucky enough to even get it on sale. The shark clock is by far my favorite locking system, and when given your overall quality of the build, as well as the ergonomics on top of everything else… I have a hard time finding another knife as good at that price point. It also fits really nicely in the pocket because it’s pretty slim. A+ all around for the Demko AD20.5.
@jethernandez16
@jethernandez16 3 жыл бұрын
Love the compression lock really wish other companies would pick it up the patent ended in February
@IlliniDog01
@IlliniDog01 2 жыл бұрын
How does that apply to the button like version of it like on the Smock knives?
@FoxxEFFEX
@FoxxEFFEX 11 ай бұрын
@@IlliniDog01 button is WAY better imo.
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the BEST knife lock by description video, that I've ever seen!!!
@zacharyragle9589
@zacharyragle9589 3 жыл бұрын
I would have just said "B" or "C" for ease of manipulation on the triad lock, but he really hit it with the "D".
@lordquenntillieusiii9250
@lordquenntillieusiii9250 3 жыл бұрын
He just loves to mess with Cold Steel stans
@zacharyragle9589
@zacharyragle9589 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordquenntillieusiii9250 Who doesn't? Am I right?
@captainhammer9840
@captainhammer9840 3 жыл бұрын
Phrasing?
@asherrose6594
@asherrose6594 9 ай бұрын
I love the ball bearing lock from spyderco the best. I love my manix!!!
@bobhabsolute4995
@bobhabsolute4995 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot your favourite: theVirobloc Safety ring! 😉
@maxlvledc
@maxlvledc 3 жыл бұрын
100% dead on, can't disagree...I was surprised about the button lock
@brandenp1187
@brandenp1187 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@pauldayton5285
@pauldayton5285 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to go outside & then I saw this ! Now I'll be inside 48 min longer than I thought 🤣👍 Thanks for the great content MC💯❤🔪‼️
@tutzdesYT
@tutzdesYT 3 жыл бұрын
I'd add some extra categories: 1)How does the deployment mechanism affects the ergonomics, 2) reliability in adverse conditions and 3) ease to maintain in working order. This is less important for urban areas, but during a long hike or if you work in remote location and your selection of tools is limited it may affect your choice. 1) So, liner-lock doesn't affect ergonomics, but frame lock does. Compression-lock makes majority of handles not so comfortable for cutting through tough stuff (Shaman is probably is the only exception). Majority of back locks are ok, but not all of them. Cross-bars and buttons are usually fine. 2) In muddy and sandy conditions back-lock variants (including triad-lock) and some ATFs can stop working. Liner and especially frame-lock knives are less prone to that. Axis-lock subtypes are ok too. 3) Knifes with liner-lock/frame lock are usually very easy to disassembly and clean (often you don't need disassemble a knife to fix stuff). Back-lock types require a (tiny) bit of more of attention. Some Axis locks are pretty hard to maintain (it's not like you need to do it often if at all). This would not make much difference in overall rating. Popular locks are popular for a reason, so they will most likely keep their rank, with liner-lock going up one step, maybe.
@ryansmock2717
@ryansmock2717 3 жыл бұрын
I have an entire collection of unique opening and locking mechanisms of folding knives. I should make my own version of this.
@geraldkoth654
@geraldkoth654 Жыл бұрын
Back Lock FTW every time. Nothing in the way, super simple, adjustable, super strong. I always use two hands regardless of the lock type. I like my fingers too much to flip some razor sharp blade near my fingertips.
@jeffoff7795
@jeffoff7795 3 жыл бұрын
A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1, F=0 Compression lock & axis lock = 3.5 Frame lock, TriAd lock, & back lock = 3.25 Otf pin lock & shark lock = 3 Liner lock, plunge lock, & bolster lock = 2.75 If you remove the availability score, you'd get a different picture as far as performance goes, however I realize that availability is an important aspect. What good is the best lock in the world (which would be the Shark lock in this case) if you can't get your hands on it? I think the otf pin lock should have scored lower on availability since they are illegal in many places but I'm nitpicking. Interesting video as always.
@jeffoff7795
@jeffoff7795 3 жыл бұрын
Removing the availability score: Shark lock = 4 Compression lock = 3.7 Axis lock = 3.3 Frame lock, TriAd lock, back lock & bolster lock = 3 Otf pin lock & plunge lock = 2.7 Liner lock = 2.3 I think I need to find something to do.
@KaPPy83
@KaPPy83 3 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to score based on the functionality of the knife, not the legality. Irrelevant.
@jeffoff7795
@jeffoff7795 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaPPy83 Availability in general doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of the lock. My point about OTFs being illegal in many places was simply that they aren't as widely available as other types of knives. Most dealers won't ship them to states where they aren't legal. That was all I meant.
@dominicblade6514
@dominicblade6514 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaPPy83 lmao if you can’t get the knife then it’s completely worthless.
@KaPPy83
@KaPPy83 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominicblade6514 can't knock the knife if you can't have it 🙄
@danc2651
@danc2651 3 ай бұрын
Really cool vidéo my favorite lock is compression ✌️
@angusvanhalen2886
@angusvanhalen2886 2 жыл бұрын
I've carried the same Griptillian for over a decade, working construction the whole time, and never had an omega spring fail
@jacobson1374
@jacobson1374 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@r.d.1056
@r.d.1056 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot about the Safety factor.. Thank you for covering this topic, I've been on this kick for a while. People lose their shit when I share my opinion on frame/liner locks.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
Safety should probably have been it's own category, your right. I kind of lumped it in with "ease of manipulation".
@r.d.1056
@r.d.1056 3 жыл бұрын
@@metal_complex thanks for the video
@seventh-six1468
@seventh-six1468 3 жыл бұрын
This is seriously the best knife channel on KZbin. So far the axis lock has been a complete winner for me, I have had a Benchmade Adamas for around 8 years and it has seen some hard use, still just as solid as the day I brought it home
@shawnlavigne9069
@shawnlavigne9069 9 ай бұрын
I've had Omega spring failure. It was a model with very small springs. It was easy to fix.
@David-vi9mm
@David-vi9mm 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and brief on locks. Yours remains my favorite channel to just drive and listen 🎧 🤌😝
@jeremyeagles3237
@jeremyeagles3237 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll tell ya one thing I found about the compression lock that makes it the worst lock…at least for the type of work I do. Dirt and grinding dust gets in behind the lock and makes it impossible to lock.
@JustKnifeThings
@JustKnifeThings 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about the Benchmade omega springs is that I never saw this flurry of complaints about broken springs until the Bugout came out. It almost always seems to be the Bugout that people are complaining about online. I wonder if they went with a thinner one to help shave more weight off this ultralight knife. Doesn't seem like they would have been able to salvage much but something seems different.
@tutzdesYT
@tutzdesYT 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the attitude of people towards some things and usage statistics. Knives (esp. folders) as a hobby are more popular now and more different people use EDC-type ones. Old-timers of knife community were more nerdy, so repairs and parts' change as they break weren't considered an issue. Aside from that, fidgety stuff is a relatively new thing. People used to operated the lock when they had to deploy the blade and use it. And that's not needed like 200 times a day. Recent flurry of complaints is also due to pandemic. It's harder and takes longer to get spare parts, especially overseas.
@CertifiedSunset
@CertifiedSunset 3 жыл бұрын
I think it mainly comes down to the popularity of the lock as a fidget device. People love to fidget with their knives, me included (I open and close my Adamas a lot). The springs most likely break when someone is rapidly swinging their blade open and closed, that paired with such small springs that quality control can be iffy will result in some people breaking their springs and then crying on forums about it. I don't abuse my Adamas and the lock as been 100% reliable and have yet to break a spring.
@JustKnifeThings
@JustKnifeThings 3 жыл бұрын
@@CertifiedSunset Yeah I've had Benchmades for years and never broke a spring, but I also don't fidget. Maybe doing it rapidly is like when you bend something back and forth quickly which heats up the crease until it weakens and you can break it.
@CertifiedSunset
@CertifiedSunset 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustKnifeThings Think of it more like a paper clip, you can bend it quite a bit, but if you repeatedly bend it at the same spot then it's strength will degrade until it breaks.
@globofgreen
@globofgreen 2 жыл бұрын
You make a good point about omega springs
@darkness8151
@darkness8151 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this video. I've always been on the fence about axis locks Which has hindered me on wanting to buy one. I've been getting tired of liner locks and never wanted frame locks as I just see them the same as a liner lock in my OWN OPINION. But I am a complacent person with everything and just stick to what I am familiar with for probably too damn long. I stopped using back locks because my hands are big and bulbous and I death grip the fuck outta everything. I hulk strong grip even my pens and pencils (hello hand cramps).... Because of my grip, I always tend engage back locks. Even some liner locks if my grip shifts when using. This has opened my eyes alot now and now I wanna pull the trigger on buying my first axis lock knife Thanks so much for doing this man
@timothytobiassong8126
@timothytobiassong8126 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Scorpion Lock on the AD15? Your gorilla grip will just make the lock more secure
@alvarez321
@alvarez321 11 ай бұрын
axis lock is definitely my favorite
@Cadwallader38
@Cadwallader38 3 жыл бұрын
I think compression lock with a CME or a button lock are the best for me.
@FALLONMICHAEL1022
@FALLONMICHAEL1022 9 ай бұрын
I love this content!😂 so glad I found this channel.
@ranman1959
@ranman1959 3 жыл бұрын
The shark lock is fun, but it hasn't replaced my Benchmade Anthem. And I think the compression spring in the Anthem brinks the score up to an A.
@bobleb4323
@bobleb4323 3 жыл бұрын
really loving the tier lists mc.
@freestatefellow
@freestatefellow 3 жыл бұрын
For me, a liner lock is easier to manipulate than a frame lock. No chance of putting to much pressure on the detent.
@melissajohnson5324
@melissajohnson5324 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite lock would have to be the axis lock because of the strength and fidget factor
@scottburns5242
@scottburns5242 3 жыл бұрын
If the springs were better I’d like it more. I’ve broken several omega springs fidgeting.
@pauldayton5285
@pauldayton5285 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottburns5242 I call bullshit !! I've NEVER had an omega spring break on me in the 20 plus yrs I've been carrying an EDC knife. You say that you've broke several? I'll need a better explanation than "I do a lot of fidgeting" to believe your story. What knife was it? How often or how many time's a day do you open & close your knife? You'd have to show me the broken springs for me to believe your claim.
@mr.crumbles2557
@mr.crumbles2557 3 жыл бұрын
Why would someone lie about that. I've also broken multiple springs. Bugout, grip. Bought the cheapest ganzo just to steal the omega springs.
@scottburns5242
@scottburns5242 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauldayton5285 fidgeting with a mini onslaught I’ve broken 2 omega springs. I haven’t broken any in nearly 10 years either, because I stopped buying knives with that shit lock.
@pauldayton5285
@pauldayton5285 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.crumbles2557 why? Just to be a hater & repeat something that they've heard from somewhere else. Why are you spending more money buying gas station gonzo knives for part's to fix your Benchmade instead of getting new springs from Benchmade directly for free? Your story sounds super suspect too !! Why would someone lie...🤣 Are you kidding me? 🤣
@XGurro
@XGurro 3 жыл бұрын
Ease of manipulation between frame lock and liner lock not the same. Pressure on frame lock would *affect* ease. Great vid 👍
@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
Right, but we all know now that in order to properly use a framelock, you have to keep your fingers off the lock bar, which makes them function almost exactly the same.
@aproXXim
@aproXXim 11 ай бұрын
I choose the strongest locks because where I'm from you can't conceal carry fixed blades. 😢 I'm just glad cold steel has the balls to make over built knives. 😂
@jocemarine6247
@jocemarine6247 2 ай бұрын
The best lock system is Tri-ad lock by far. Period💪
@johnj6689
@johnj6689 Ай бұрын
Agreed. But I when I think of people being hard on their knives Cold Steel sticking with AUS-8 would have made more sense.
@mcsquirgle
@mcsquirgle 3 жыл бұрын
15:41 is hands down your funniest impression EVER . OMG! LOL
@Theglide3535
@Theglide3535 3 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. I’d vote to have him do his next vid entirely in that voice.
@clgrooms
@clgrooms 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely hilarious.
@nikkijennings3778
@nikkijennings3778 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content and all the dedication you put in your videos! You've solidified your place in the top content creator's in the knife world! In my opinion you don't need to explain how and why you creator your content to the haters in the comment section anymore! Keep up the amazing work! 👍👍
@kerrykitterman9714
@kerrykitterman9714 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a big collection.! 30 are axis benchmade, X. R. And Able . Never had a Omega spring. Break. Compression lock Is on Top !! 👍
@Bossatronian619
@Bossatronian619 3 жыл бұрын
Hello 👋
@bobhabsolute4995
@bobhabsolute4995 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the back lock presents the same difficulties as the frame lock and the liner lock. It is only because of the abundance of the last two and because of muscles memory that we find them easier to manipulate. In fact, I will say that with a good positioning of the back lock, a user (not a fidgeter) will have to adjust his hand position less than with the other two. When it’s at the back of the knife, then, it’s almost strictly a two hand lock.
@MikeCzenkmd
@MikeCzenkmd 8 ай бұрын
I prefer Crossbar locks and button locks. One for strength the other for fun. In all honesty for hard use folders are out of the race.
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 Жыл бұрын
I have one test for knifes lock strength: Can you stab it in the wooden table and not be afraid that it will bend/break and cut your fingers. If you afraid of that, or have that small weird feeling behind your head "what if..." dont use it, go find other knife. Also small note: Most of axis locks have two omega springs. chance that two of them fail at the same time are... small, very very small. I used one with one spring for two weeks as I wait for new one and it lock perfectly.
@TDAWDepthFinder
@TDAWDepthFinder 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t think the “D” was too harsh on the Axis lock at all, if even one of the two springs break then your “A” for strength becomes a low C or even a D. I also own multiple of them, broken both springs in the BladeHQ 20CV Bugout I have in less then 9 months being one of my least carried knives. Just my opinion, too many other truly great knives for me to ever waste money on one of them again.
@leonopterix981
@leonopterix981 3 жыл бұрын
benchmade wont send you omega springs anymore, you have to send it in for warranty. my omega springs broke over a year ago and i still havent gotten it fixed
@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
You should send it in.
@leonopterix981
@leonopterix981 3 жыл бұрын
@@metal_complex procrastination is one hell of a problem lol
@knight9925
@knight9925 3 жыл бұрын
Had an Omega spring break on a Benchmade 710 Axis Lock, simply bought some spring wire of same thickness at craft store, shaped new Omega spring by using the other unbroken spring as template to follow bends and installed. Worked 100% with equal tension on either side of lock. How did it break? Was idiot flicking it back and forth in rapid open/close position - basically heated the wire up like working a steel cloths-hanger until it broke. Lesson learned, have not done that since, those same knife springs are still 100% over 10 years now.
@knight9925
@knight9925 3 жыл бұрын
@@thaknobodi Thanks for the reply, I am familiar with many semi auto firearms and most of those use a coil spring or two of some form. Please enlighten me as to which styles of firearms use an Omega style spring for rapid use bolt cycling etcetera, (not magazine releases or safety catches) thanks again in advance.
@conjandysecurity
@conjandysecurity 3 жыл бұрын
Gimme that scarab!
@insanogeddon
@insanogeddon Жыл бұрын
How can you not mention locking frame locks? They have existed rarely in high end knives but are now available cheap from manufacturers like Ruike.
@petarconjkovski346
@petarconjkovski346 Жыл бұрын
I have a tried lock knife with 43 years of age still functional
@beebait1464
@beebait1464 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like It may have been better to compare knives of more similar price points if possible. If you take a more poorly designed mechanism and throw enough money at it in terms of materials and crafting details it will make for a better experience. I feel like if you took steel frame lock that was the same price as the Rat1 the answer would be different and thats why I would involve a value category. This category would acknowledge an overall user experience at various price points (mainly cheaper price points). Are you getting a quality lock at a good deal or are you needing to spent lots of money before the lock becomes good quality. I feel like the frame lock is a perfect example as quality of life improvements need to be added to improve the mechanism. People want overtravel protection, a steel insert, maybe a finger rest or guard so you cant apply pressure to the mechanism. At that point a bunch of money has been put into it to basically turn it back into a thick liner lock. Also deployment should be a separate category as you didnt even touch on one of the main complaints of the frame lock about the awkwardness of your finger placement. As a whole liner locks tend to be easier to deploy than frame locks since you dont have to worry about putting unwanted pressure on the detent. But the shark lock or axis lock for example are even easier to deploy since you can entirely disengage the lock mechanism and the blade can be free floating during deployment. Then I would make unlocking and folding separate since in the case of the frame lock I would say its just as easy to disengage the lock as a liner lock maybe barring the note about overtravel. I would take a liner lock over a frame lock any day just because I feel at knives in my price range the liner lock would rank higher in durability, ease of use, and even dependability. Someone over traveled one of my frame locks and I cant get it back to just quite how it was and a liner lock is more dummy proof. I feel like the liner lock on a we knives banter would give a hinderer frame lock a run for its money at a third the hinderer price tag. Maybe a better comparison than the rat gonna be honest. Compared to the triad lock it makes sense why the liner lock would be ranked C. Most other locks from what I have seen fail at pretty much the same weight on the spine from testing videos so besides the locks designed for torture the rest of the mechanisms generally would rank the same. Thanks for the video it was fun to think about a lock mechanism tier list.
@1allspub
@1allspub Жыл бұрын
Great overall rankings and rationales behind said rankings. My only real difference with your take is... I’m more forgiving and would give the Triad and Back Locks a C for Ease of Manipulation. ;) IME, “repositioning” of the hand for a Triad/Back Lock is only marginally more involved than with say, a Compression Lock... it’s just that the fidget-factor with a Compression Lock is soooo much higher that it begs one to play with it much more and thus it becomes second nature and one develops excellent muscle memory just gets very highly skilled with it. Triad/Back Locks are just boring to use so they don’t naturally encourage endless fidgeting and thus most folks just don’t gain that muscle memory that more fidgety locks tend to produce. Plus, using the tip of the thumb to close a Triad/Back Lock isn’t ideal (and will definitely make closing it clunkier). Using the inside/side of the thumb is the hot ticket and increases Ease of Manipulation for sure, IME. Great vid as usual.
@ASMR-soothingsounds
@ASMR-soothingsounds Жыл бұрын
Are there other companies that utilize the compression lock besides Spyderco?
@brandonseals6732
@brandonseals6732 3 жыл бұрын
Compression locks are superior
@matthewkuhl79
@matthewkuhl79 2 ай бұрын
i don't see how compression locks are not ambidextrous. i have zero trouble using them with either hand
@johnwest4492
@johnwest4492 3 жыл бұрын
Also the deadlock is so expensive that most of us can't afford it 😫 😭
@desbravatube
@desbravatube 7 ай бұрын
Já cheguei dando like Att: Weliton Marks - Canal Desbravatube
@arui9630
@arui9630 3 жыл бұрын
*people in the UK* "Knives can lock?"
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 3 жыл бұрын
Most of my favorite folding knives are liner locks. I am not sure why. That is without any "scientific" selection process, just what I have purchased.
@tecsto7069
@tecsto7069 Жыл бұрын
FOrgot stiletto itallian automatick lock? Itallian
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 2 жыл бұрын
I just enabled notification, sorry I was late. THIS is a subject close to my -heart- scars on my hand. Locks MATTER. I had a frame lock and a liner lock collapse on me when I was using them improperly. Yes, I admit I’m an idiot, I was trying to do something stupid, like enlarge a bolt hole in a fence post to save myself walking back and getting a drill. Note if anyone else is as dumb as me, liner locks and frame locks can be released accidentally if gripping the knife hard with your hand and working it in a manner it was not intended. 😎👍🏼🤣😱
@_MiMo_
@_MiMo_ 3 жыл бұрын
A: Compression F: Opinel🤣
@the_hiroman
@the_hiroman Жыл бұрын
Wished balisongs/butterfly knives were also included. For good well made balisongs, I would rate it as : Strength: A+. No way it will fail by normal human means if both handles are held. Ease: D to A. Highly depends on practice. Dependability over time: A-. Might have some tap or play over some time, but does not affect strength significantly. Maintenance is quite easy. Options/Availability: C. Most are either very good, high end expensive balis or cheap horrible gas station ones. There is not much middle ground.
@silverslvr5185
@silverslvr5185 3 жыл бұрын
Living in the desert, we have “Blow Sand”, and it’s bad for all folders. The worst is the axis lock. Dropping it means a disassembly before next use, Even in windy conditions, I’ll find the lock bar gritty.
@masemasemasie
@masemasemasie 2 жыл бұрын
What’s your go-to lock with winds like that?
@Jakoshdw
@Jakoshdw 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the new WE Vision R would be for desert "blow sand". The knife is apparently designed to be easy to clean. Just use a dry lubricant like Tuff Glide so it can't gum up and maybe keep some canned compressed air to blow it out?
@silverslvr5185
@silverslvr5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@masemasemasie fixed blade and a leather sheath
@silverslvr5185
@silverslvr5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jakoshdw while that may help, it’s more of an issue with the pivot area. Even bronze washers get gritty
@Jakoshdw
@Jakoshdw 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverslvr5185 - Guess you'd need water then. From what I've seen said you can apparently rinse the Vision out directly to clean out fruit juice I don't doubt it would flush out fine dust just as well. That's just an assumption though as I haven't been able to handle the knife directly. Kinda want a WE Vision 'cause I really enjoy my Demko Shark lock... while different mechanically... the user interface shares similarities... and a easy rinse fidget knife appeals to me. As far as easy to clean knives folding knives go... have you ever had your hands on a CRKT Homefront? That all said I can easily see why you'd adopt the K.I.S.S. approach and just use fixed blades. But... this is still a fun thought experiment. Until someone designs a completely self contained sealed knife pivot that is...lol.
@bradybernhart670
@bradybernhart670 10 ай бұрын
Next time dip them all in sandy mud and see which open correctly and lock. Also if that scorpion slips on point pressure it could deflect into the release and close on your hand.
@keeperoftruth5951
@keeperoftruth5951 9 ай бұрын
Your profile picture is exactly what I expected
@CarmineCross
@CarmineCross 3 жыл бұрын
Sub Frame lock all the way!!!
@brentbodine1989
@brentbodine1989 Жыл бұрын
Get a crkt deadbolt on the table 😮‍💨
@jayr526
@jayr526 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Ant lock? I have found that if I take the triad lock apart and gently file it with a diamond file and add some grease it works wonderfully well. With practice to scorpion lock has become very easy to use, both opening and closing. My two favorite locks are the compression lock in the liner lock.
@sijonda
@sijonda Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video. I've had several liner and frame lock knives and I've never 100% liked them. I just don't like the disengagement and how you need to apply some force for a full lockup. I was just given a Benchmade knife that was left at the gun range I'm a member of that nobody claimed for a few weeks. First knife I've handled that locks like it. Didn't like it at first but after playing around with it for a few hours it's grown on me. Only thing I don't like about it is I've broken a spring similar to this one (not spring assisted but the one I broke was assisted) and it was a liner lock knife. I took it apart, tossed the spring, and used it for a little while without the assist since the lockup worked fine, but again you need to apply some force for a complete lockup. I ended up putting it back in the box and haven't used it since (Had that knife on me for maybe 8 years). I'll have to keep an eye out for a tri ad or shark/scorpion. I'll also keep an eye out for a OTF automatic or gravity knife. Reason for those two is, PA's Governor Wolf just made fully automatic knifes legal :) Will be on the books in a few days from now.
@DONK0
@DONK0 Жыл бұрын
The shark lock actually gets stronger as it wears in. More contact.
@thadward4629
@thadward4629 Жыл бұрын
I beg to differ on otf dependability..i think they are the easiest to repair(usually just a broken spring) which should be included on dependability
@bushmaster8912
@bushmaster8912 2 жыл бұрын
Hey metal, we need a video where you rate different brands fanboys.
@dixierekt2407
@dixierekt2407 3 жыл бұрын
Compression locks and button locks are my favorite.
@markpeavy4005
@markpeavy4005 Жыл бұрын
I bought several nice knives starting with Kershaw and then going to Benchmade. Because of my lack of experience to start with I stumbled into and bought several liner lock knives and would sell them in a heartbeat! The reason is I am left handed and have to switch hands to close the knife blade. Not a huge deal but over time it's a hassle. It's like having a striker fired pistol and having to switch hands to simply lock the slide. Last non-ambedextrious pistol I'll buy as well! BTW, I have a couple of liner or compression lock knives for sale if you want them...
@wantaprs
@wantaprs Жыл бұрын
Please do another one of these and feature Button locks and the Deadbolt locks from CRKT. Thanks
@9mmfederalrimmed235
@9mmfederalrimmed235 18 күн бұрын
I have had already an Gerber EAB liner lock not fail but yes fail since the blade got all wobbly up and down. That was after 2 or 3 years of use. The surfaces where definately not hardened. Then I have in use an Coast DX126 now for several years which has an liner lock as well but is working flawless with about 1/4 of chew through. I talked with Coast and they say their surfaces on the liner is hardened. So that makes the difference. My Karambit has an frame lock. The secret for liner lock and frame lock is that you DO NOT flick it open. You open it both handed half 3/4 ways without the detend falling off the blades back end where it locks. Then you hold the liner open on pressure while you fully open the blade. That way nothing jams into then locking surfaces and you guide the liner lock slowly towards the blades locking edge. That reduces a big time the wear on the surfaces. Which eats into the locking surfaces is flicking the knife open since the liner jams into the blades locking surface each time with velocity. Buttom locks I do not like since I have a el cheapo multi tool knife set with an button lock which wobbles like crazy. Best anti wear would be an liner lock or frame lock with inserts on both ends which can be exchanged or this autoadjusting Tri-Ad lock which is an back lock. That is for longevity.
@adrianenciso9277
@adrianenciso9277 3 жыл бұрын
They just released a new AD20 variant, the AD20s. It’s grivory for $275, g10 for $350, the blade stock is thinner and the blade steel is only D2 at the moment. Oh and the actual lock mechanisms are made in the same factories as the AD20.5s. The blades, hardware, and scales are still USA made.
@AlexT795
@AlexT795 3 жыл бұрын
For those who don't like the omega springs but love the axis lock, it's simple. Buy a benchmade anthem!
@wantaprs
@wantaprs Жыл бұрын
There are a few more locks that have emerged since you did this video. One is the Deadbolt Lock on CRKT knives. You should do this video again. Love your channel. Thanks
@jedquirl7468
@jedquirl7468 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, my friend! Your ranking system makes perfect sense to me… I also become attached to my knives by emotions vs monetary value.🙂 I have a question… A year ago you spoke of your Excalibur bar and how you thought that that level of excellence would probably never be achieved. You then reviewed the Holt Specter and actually deemed that as Excalibur. Since then, I haven’t seen the Specter in your playlists, like this one. I’m just curious if you still feel the same way about the Holt Specter? Thanks for the great entertainment and content. Keep up the good work, brother! 🍻
@jimsheppard910
@jimsheppard910 3 жыл бұрын
Well done video sir. Well thought out and executed. From 🇨🇦...stay safe and sharp
@PMCKnivesAndTools
@PMCKnivesAndTools Жыл бұрын
Love the shark lock on my Demko, but for me the Benchmade axis lock is the coolest, most fun
@lombro1262
@lombro1262 2 ай бұрын
I don't know how you can rate the crossbar (axis) lock above the compression lock in terms of strength. I love both, and would say they are equal. Both of the Demko locks are stronger than the axis, so the axis lock really should be a B, along with the compression lock.
@petergalione1414
@petergalione1414 8 ай бұрын
Compression lock is currently my favorite
@pengovan
@pengovan 11 ай бұрын
My rating of locks: 1) Flipjoint 2) Slipjoint 3) Fixed blade
@pengovan
@pengovan 11 ай бұрын
However, you have to think a little bit more when you're using flipjoint or slipjoint knives.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex 11 ай бұрын
None of those have locking mechanisms
@pengovan
@pengovan 11 ай бұрын
@@metal_complex that is correct
@johnsanford3596
@johnsanford3596 Жыл бұрын
Triad Lock, A for Options and Availability? uhh, no. I would give it a C. It's basically proprietary, as you said, Cold Steel and Demko are the only one's who use it. Same thing with the Compression Lock, only used by Spyderco. That earns it a C.
@nickmartino2839
@nickmartino2839 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh ok so you aren't going to scale a 100 story building with just your xm-18...... that's it...... I'm outta here!!!!!!! 😆
@carlostovar8585
@carlostovar8585 3 жыл бұрын
At first I thought u meant a slip joint, but yea. A fix blade is the answer 😂
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Жыл бұрын
So, basically, liner locks are a little dodgy, and more dependent on stuff we can’t see in terms of angles and surface contact.
@georgelewis9127
@georgelewis9127 6 ай бұрын
Remember, there are two omega springs in each Axis lock. I don't think a single broken one will completely disable the knife. Then it is easy to replace the broken one.
@echosierra9990
@echosierra9990 6 ай бұрын
Best locks for a lefty: A) Back Lock B) Axis (Benchmade) lock C) Button lock D) Liner Lock F) Frame lock
@Dracomies
@Dracomies Жыл бұрын
I disagree a bit here. I'd trust the Ontario Rat 2's lock system over the Benchmade. You ranked the Benchmade an A and the Ontario Rat 2 a C. But honestly having done some hard use on the Ontario Rat 2 and other axis locks, the Rat 2 prevailed while those other locks get fiddly. But the Ontario Rat 2 is in a whole other class on its own and it's why it's constantly mentioned as one of the best hard-use folding knives on every list out there.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
Na I'll keep my ranks
@Nix27.
@Nix27. 7 ай бұрын
My favorite lock is probably the shark lock. It's super easier to use and very steong and fidgety.
@alex_8-D
@alex_8-D 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the lock on your favourite knife the opinel 😂
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 9 ай бұрын
People who broke omega springs need to stop fidgeting, it's that simple. MANY MANY people have had their factory springs for 15 years or longer.
@GC_4
@GC_4 5 ай бұрын
STOP fidgeting!? GASP! How could you suggest something so heinous, so insidious?! Fidgeting is practically all I do with my knives 😅
@razvanteleanu4302
@razvanteleanu4302 Жыл бұрын
1. fixed blades 2. balisongs
@Sevenixzp
@Sevenixzp Жыл бұрын
You didn't include one of the most important topics: "Dependability in dirty situations". Will the lock jam up if dirt is introduced, and if if does jam up, how easy is it to un-jam it?
@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
That's a 45 minute video by itself. It's also been thoroughly... And I mean THOROUGHLY discussed here on KZbin over the last decade. Cedric and Ada, DBK, Gideons Tactical and many, many others have done in depth videos on all of it.
@svenvanderzwaag1012
@svenvanderzwaag1012 2 жыл бұрын
Steel insert > carbidized lockbar
@c.h.schouler6621
@c.h.schouler6621 Жыл бұрын
Nice. But A+B+C+C is a „solid C“? You would have parents send you a lawyer. ;)
@vensheaalara
@vensheaalara 3 жыл бұрын
Have had two different liner locks close on me. One literally caught my finger. Not a fan. No, of course I wasn't using it 100% correctly. My point is, if you need to use a knife hard, you might want one you don't have to worry about.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex 3 жыл бұрын
What I heard was "don't use a knife for stuff you shouldn't use a knife for".
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