Follow-up; weirdness of getting through-the-viewfinder shots

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[@AnonymousFreakYT]

I just love how effective the phone's stabilization is! While the "view window" keeps jumping around, the subject within the frame beyond is generally rock-solid stable.

[@TechnologyConnextras]

It's definitely cool in its own right! But also... AARRGHH

[@sachingiyer]

@@TechnologyConnextras But somehow, even though I'm a big fan of coding, I really miss technology which we can see and feel, like this camera. Few silicon chips with a few lines of code might be more effective than these analogue methods, but in the end i consider these very impressive analogue techniques to be far superior to what engineers get to do today.

[@Jackpkmn]

@@TechnologyConnextras The perennial power user problem. "This automatic feature is great but its in my way."

[@todddenton5862]

@@TechnologyConnextras That jumpiness in the video seems to be the result of electronic image stabilization. On OnePlus models EIS is switched off and OIS is switched on when recording at 60 fps (1080 and 2160). When shooting at 30 fps the opposite is true.

[@alliejr]

This is weird behavior. I’ve used an iPhone to take video through an old Nikon SLR and it never did this.

[@fluffycritter]

I like the camera mounting solution. Sometimes there's no tech like low tech. Sympathies for you having to finally learn AfterEffects though.

[@TechnologyConnextras]

I appreciate that. It was scary!

[@JosephDavies]

@@TechnologyConnextras The only thing more frightening than needing to decipher the UI of an Adobe product is that there are a large number of people who defend it as intuitive!

[@mikecowen6507]

@@JosephDavies Must be Apple users. Their shi.., uh, "products" give me migraines!

[@JosephDavies]

@@mikecowen6507 Alas, I don't think it's restricted to any single OS. It often reads like some kind of stockholm syndrome. The trouble, in my estimation, is that the programs have a lot of "tradition" they've accrued over the decades. That, combined with being fairly complex tools that include a lot of options which would make _any_ attempt at reasonable UI a daunting task for even the most talented of designers... well...

[@talon262]

@@mikecowen6507 Uhhh, no...Alec's production machines (his semi-retired homebuilt desktop and his main daily driver/production Dell laptop) run Windows 10; he did a video about laptop docks a few months ago, showing his docked XPS 15 setup. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpSWYn9pr6-cl7c

[@mattgeek49]

Having used After Effects in the past to stabilize 6k footage on a old and slow laptop I would recommend using the frame as a reference not the lightmetre, it is a straight and right angle high contrast edge and it will not loose track of the subject as easily and you can leave it to do it's own thing without worrying how long it takes and if it is going to give good results

[@lachlanlau]

“Performing Badly” I love photography and cool technology, this video is one of my favourites!

[@delliardo583]

The algorithm is unforgiving. It's always changing. Long after humanity leaves this universe, the algorithm shall persist. All hail the algorithm.

[@maple_fields]

I believe After Effects comes with Mocha Lite built-in. With Mocha you can just draw a box around the item you want to track, and it does it VERY well... It would've been perfect for this situation. I guess this information might be useful in the unlikely scenario where you have to do this again!

[@mirelchirila]

funny enough this got recommended but not the other one,

[@meegstomtom]

Same here

[@cllris]

Same!

[@MrDannyDetail]

same

[@Bolli1983]

Set notifications to "all" instead of personalized by hitting the alarm bell for the main channel.

[@MrDannyDetail]

@@Bolli1983 I realise you were probably directing that at the OP, but I have hit the bell on everything I am subscribed to, as seeing all their videos is the whole point why I would choose to subscribe to a channel. If I only watched some of their videos then the algorithm will probably sort me out, or I can revisit their channel directly once in a while.

[@notalostnumber8660]

Main Video: I never use After Effects Second Video: I had to use After Effects

[@maxximumb]

That's just what Captain Disillusion's alter, alter ego wants us to think.

[@Okusar]

@@maxximumb Alan...Alec. Hmm... We might be on to something here.

[@drachenfliger1368]

3. Channel all around after effects 🤣 3 channel: (Captain Disillusion)

[@notalostnumber8660]

@@drachenfliger1368 ; I would love to see a colab between the two, so TC can finally say that he and CD were in the same room together. But we all know CD has pulled that stunt before (first example which comes to mind is Wall Walking)

[@JosephDavies]

The KZbin algorithm detects pride in craftsmanship and automatically attempts to counter it by generating disappointment. Personally, I really enjoyed the camera video. I don't have a phone team. I use it to communicate (rarely) and that's about it.

[@PiPArtemis]

I loved the video. I actually know what the settings mean in Pro Mode on my phone's camera now!!

[@osxdude]

Yep happened to me too.

[@JosephDavies]

@@PiPArtemis I don't use a phone for photos, but I too learned a lot from this one. ^_^

[@DaveSomething]

this, exactly.

[@Krahazik]

I use whatever gets the job done. For the longest time, I was using a very primitive handheld communications device. It had a cover you flip open with actual touch buttons and limited set of functions and no real 'apps.' Then I inherited an old LG smartphone but didn't actually start using a smartphone until I started doing Courier work that required the use of a smartphone app. Then I had to acquire a more powerful smartphone that could run the needed apps reliably.

[@DeviantOllam]

Oh my gosh, this reminds me so much of when I would have to occasionally do face blur for certain sensitive client videos. I had a plug-in for VirtualDub (I'm old, deal with it) And it could do face tracking to some degree in order to move the blur box around, but just like we're seeing here it would constantly lose focus maybe every few seconds and need some nudging and correction and human intervention. Cheers to you for powering through this and the end result was terrific, as always for us. P.S. - former OnePlus, now Pixel3a human here, as well. All credit to Snubs for telling me to try it out. :-)

[@Ralesk]

VirtualDub was so easy and straightforward compared to literally every monster of a video editing/whatevering program out there these days :/

[@darkmann12]

Ahahaha, nice.

[@FilthPiston]

The algorithm must really like you, I binged through a lot of your talks the other day, and am noticing you in a lot of places.

[@rbnlenin]

@@FilthPiston A case when the algorithm works nicely. DeviantOllam is real good.

[@mzmegazone]

I've used a number of Nexus/Pixel phones - currently Pixel 4 XL, up from a 2 XL. I tend to skip a generation and use it for two years, so no P5 for me.

[@MrSquishedsquashed]

The algorithm might not like your video, but I do and that's what matters right?

[@ErdTirdMans]

If you're a Patreon sub, then yes! Otherwise... money :'(

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

I also enjoy how you used After Effects to *UNDO* stabilization! :-D

[@AlphaSynchrome]

"It's not performing well". Of course it isn't. It didn't show up in my subscription list until now. Darn KZbin...

[@alliejr]

I had the opposite issue. The conextra did not show up in my subscriptions but the original video did. Oh Google- go home, you’re drunk.

[@bracco23]

The solution is easy for everyone, hit the bell!

[@KurosakiYukigo]

Also, Alec, don't feel bad about the algorithm snubbing your video. I've watched it several times (much like almost all of your videos), and sometimes, the youtube algorithm is just plain dumb. I know there's a lot in the KZbin backend pressuring you to do better and better and better and get those big numbers higher and higher, but it's not worth burning yourself out to appease the whims of whatever the heck KZbin is doing. Make the content you find cool, and viewers will find it when they're ready. Remember, KZbin is a tool made to wring cash from creativity and then cast the creators aside when no longer "profitable". To hell with that, be you, and talk about what you want, when you want to.

[@n-steam]

Some wise words, and I agree completely. Though I think the pressure is more about himself getting revenue than merely pleasing youtube.

[@user2C47]

In fact, KZbin specifically reserves the right to terminate channels that are no longer commercially viable. We need competition in the market, and for Google to not blacklist them as malware. (LBRY)

[@Krahazik]

@@user2C47 thing is in his case, the revenue stream is via another platform possibly not owned by youtube (Google). He doesn't have ad content on his videos, nor does he do sponsors.

[@georgeprout42]

For future reference you might like to look into Open Camera. Options - video - enable video stabilization (off!) There are so many settings and options compared to the stock camera, but is great for those that like to poke around a bit. Plus who doesn't love open source? 😉

[@user2C47]

Excellent camera app and very configurable, but won't detect the macro or depth sensors on the Samsung A21-71.

[@AndrewGillard]

@@user2C47 OpenCamera fairly recently started supporting all 3 of the rear cameras on my Huawei Mate 20 Pro (standard, macro/wide, tele), and it added (better) support for 120fps and 240fps slow-mo modes, IIRC, so if you've not checked it in the past few months it might be worth having another look. And if it still can't see all of your sensors, at least it appears there is still some development happening on that software, so support for those sensors might arrive in future :) I'm pretty sure it was well over a year into the life of the Mate 20 Pro before OpenCamera supported all of the sensors, but I think that app only has a single developer, and they only work on it in their spare time, so progress can be understandably slow. Also I'm not sure if the update which added support for all of the Mate 20 Pro's cameras was an update to *specifically* support that device (and presumably a load of others), or if there's a standard(-ish) API for accessing multiple camera sensors (beyond the "traditional" front+rear arrangement) that OpenCamera started supporting, in which case it would presumably automatically support any new devices using that same API...

[@Maikeru_Dabittsu]

@@user2C47 those sensors are pretty useless anyway

[@BigOlSmellyFlashlight]

open camera lets me not deal with crappy autofocus and lets me record videos that dont take up 17gb of space so i can also recommend

[@GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth]

The built in camera app with my LG G5 is shit and open camera allows me to do everything better.

[@radicalxedward8047]

I always find this IS the way to learn. I suck at just going through a million hour course. I learn by solving specific problems over time as needed.

[@deefdragon]

there are 3 or 4 main ways people learn, and hands on is one of the bigger and more common ones.

[@radicalxedward8047]

@@deefdragon 1. Reading 2. Listening 3. Hands on But the distinction I’m drawing is hands on but only as needed to solve a specific problem relevant to what you’re trying to do and not just made up example problems.

[@colto2312]

@@radicalxedward8047 4. rolling your face on the keyboard till it works

[@radicalxedward8047]

@@colto2312 😂

[@Krahazik]

This is why I'm not a fan of video tutorials for learning games or software. Much easier to scan through a written tutorial with pictures to find the specific pieces of information I need for my specific current use case. With most video tutorials I feel like I'm back in the days of VHS, move clip forward watch, not here forward more, nope oops past it backup, Prince, and repeat. Sure I get a search bar to slide around on but it's just as inaccurate.

[@rainerzufall8928]

theres a warp stabilizer effect in after effects, which will stabilize the whole video automatically without using manual trackers. if you put a brightness/contrast effect above it, so that the viewfinder image becomes completely white, it should be able to stabilize (or un-stabilize in that manner) the unwanted motion a lot faster.

[@tracz99]

I think the problem is that it might stabilize the image inside the viewfinder frame, rather than the frame itself.

[@rainerzufall8928]

@@tracz99 hence the idea with the contrast. you can set it so that the black parts stay black and everything inside the viewfinder becomes completely white. this will force the stabilizer to correct the outer frame. when the image is stabilized, you can remove the contrast setting again

[@mattgeek49]

Or he could just use the corners of the frame as a reference and not the lightmeter. It is higher contrast, straight and right angle, so it is easyer to track than a red on black, blurry rounded corner of the lightmeter, it may even be faster that way

[@pablorepetto2759]

@@mattgeek49 They are also further apart, which should reduce jitteriness. I _was_ wondering if there was some plus side to using the meter.

[@snacksy7754]

To bad the algorithm didn't like it, but i think i know why... I watched the video when it first came out, left halfway trough (which is unusual for me), but came back to watch it later and enjoyed it. *This is my hypothesis:* At 8:00 you begin going on a tangent and finally at 11:48 is the first time you mention the light sensor (the subject of the video). I'm guessing if you look at viewer retention it has a stronger dip than usual at the first part, but after you begin talking about the sensor people are more interested. Everyone loves your tangents, but maybe you took to long before getting to the main course? Anyways that is just my hypothesis, would love to hear if anyone else had the same experience.

[@rjmackenzie]

It's the voice of Captain Disillusion!

[@JamesStec]

"Having basically never used After Effects" Good one, Capain D!

[@jo_magpie]

His real illusion was happening in front of us all along.

[@JasperJanssen]

Oh, was that what it was supposed to be.

[@maxximumb]

Who knew Captain Disillusion had an alter, alter ego?

I wonder if you'd do a video on the history of video editing and it's technology.

[@KevinCrouch0]

Hey, I know this isn't like super polished content, but I really love this video! It was a weird problem that you had, and you showed working through it! I love that stuff!

[@moebest]

When working with Ae and Premiere, you don't have to export videos and re-import them. Premiere and After Effects allow you to link them dynamically: Open Premiere Pro and select the clips you want to replace. Right-click any of the selected clips. Select Replace With After Effects Composition. After Effects opens (if it is not already open) and a new linked composition is created. And once you are done in Ae, just go back to Pr. No need to export huge files. Edit: but if you'd like to export a video from Ae, use the Media Encoder when rendering. from there you can pick your favorite codec and also render the video in the background after closing Ae.

[@TechnologyConnextras]

I'm vaguely aware of these things (and in fact I sent it to media encoder but I screwed something up there and it didn't actually encode with the stabilization) but my workflow has yet to need the dynamic linking stuff so it's all Greek to me.

[@JeffreyMcGlinn]

I just started working with linking, even within the same project, and it has been such a lifesaver. Especially when I just need to make a quick temporary adjustment to an entire sequence. All of this just takes time to discover, which is why I'm grateful for videos like this that remind me that I'm not alone in still figuring out my workflow! 😅

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

I was VERY confused how you captured that video footage from inside the camera viewfinder. I've tried to record video through my telescope (the moon, and shooting stars), and I had a hell of a time getting ANY footage that wasn't complete garbage. Thanks for making this video!

[@julian281198]

There are adapters where you can clip your phone on to the teleskop. Than with the pro-mode you can adjust shutter and iso. You can get pretty amazing pictures that way(of course this depends on your telescope but even with a toy you should be able to get amazing pictures)

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

@@julian281198 my telescope was enormously expensive ($35 usd). I'm lucky it has an eyepiece I can look in. Lol

[@julian281198]

@@WarrenGarabrandt even with that you should be able to get some great pictures of the moon. And maybe even the galilean moons of Jupiter.

[@ediseverywhere]

"Stop helping."

[@AtrumNoxProductions]

What did the Warp Stabilizer do with this footage? That is an effect in Premier Pro.

[@josh_dick]

Screw the algorithm, the vid was great as always.

[@JoshuaPlays99]

Its literally impossible for you to have watched the whole thing yet lol

[@cornshot9857]

@@JoshuaPlays99 the original video

[@scaper8]

@@JoshuaPlays99 I'm 99.9983% sure Josh Dick was referring to the video on the main channel when he said, "the vid was great as always," not this current one.

[@josh_dick]

Yes, I was referring to the video on the main channel.

[@JoshuaPlays99]

My bad, I thought you were referring to this one.

[@Mikemenn]

It helped me to learn after effects by realizing it was like photoshop with layers instead of premiere pro with tracks.

[@TheHookUp]

Did you try to use warp stabilization in premiere? If so, what was the result?

[@MKhurramAziz]

Same thought - I would think warp stabilization would work atleast to some extent.

[@HanleyFilms]

As someone who has been using After Effects for over a decade now... my sympathies! Motion tracking is definitely one of those "dark arts" features. Once you finally start getting good at it, you've gone well past the point where you can easily explain *why* you picked the tracking points you did. Other "darks arts" features include: chroma keying! Which comes back nicely full circle to your original video...

[@CraigandJane1]

You are one of the cleverest people on KZbin. That friend of yours isn’t even a mechanic, and he does a full strip down of an engine and gearbox and then puts it all back together again. It’s inspirational. You guys rock. Screw software. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺.

[@radicalxedward8047]

Do they have FilmicPro for android? That’s what I use on iOS if I need to be able to control whether stabilization is on/off, which camera, odd framerates, etc. or if I need to control one phones camera from an older phone or from my Apple Watch. I’ve yet to see a better app for manual video camera control on phones Edit: they do. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.filmic.filmicpro&hl=en_US&gl=US

[@familyguy0398]

Hey, Alec, AE pro-tip, you can use a lower resolution version of the video for tracking (like, re-export the video in 480p if you have such large and visible track points), and then apply the stabilizing results to a null object. It would be WAY faster than tracking 4K footage, and then you just parent the 4K footage to the null, for future reference!

[@tijn001]

I've been playing around with DaVinci Resolve for a little bit and the tracking is truly incredible, it works really quickly and is extremely accurate . The program itself is quite intimidating though and completely different from Adobe programs.

[@elbiggus]

As a heads up for future reference, you can do this in Blender -- it's a little bit more complicated to set up, but *much* faster to process and much more forgiving if the tracking breaks. A decent tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmnWYp6QYq15rdk (And as an aside, for reasons that are unclear the video didn't show up in my subscription feeds for a good few hours.)

[@MaebhsUrbanity]

When are you going to do Teletext?

[@MaebhsUrbanity]

@@lordofthe6string I don't think so, but he said he would do it.

[@ItsRickysChannelSHORTS]

probably taking his time because....RESEARCH!!

[@deefdragon]

And THIS. THIS FREAKING THIS is why options are some of the most IMPORTANT things you need to program in to features. (the other, just as important thing, is for accessibility.) Even if its like six menus deep, if its a thing that isn't LITERALLY required (IE the option that sets the fact that the sensor actually turns on etc) it should be an option.

[@aquilux-vids]

Until we can tell the tech (and not a central server) what our intent is and have it understand and adapt, we need access to as many settings as possible. Don't take control away from us, you're basically telling people you know what they want or need better than they do at all times.

[@sliceofbread2611]

there is a comment down here somewhere by George Prout about Open Camera, you might like it.

[@deefdragon]

@@sliceofbread2611 not a camera guy. Just a software dev who gets in "fights" with co-workers and friends about "user confusion" when too many options are presented.

[@user2C47]

I would even want to be able to turn the hardware stabilization off. It tends to start oscillating when damaged. As for configuration, I believe it depends on the product. Something designed to be easy, like the stock (and only) camera app for a phone for old people, does not need as many settings as something designed for power users, like OpenCamera.

[@AndrewGillard]

@@deefdragon [Also a software dev.] I totally understand the "user confusion" viewpoint, but all of the reasons for needing lots of options *still apply*, IMO. This is why I'm a fan of "Advanced" menus/Settings pages: keep the main list of options simple, so people aren't overwhelmed (especially less-technical users), and tuck away all the more complex and/or less-often-needed settings into an area that most people can ignore. You can even do something similar to the process required by Android to access the Developer settings if you're particularly concerned about user confusion (i.e. tapping 7 times on the Android build number in the system info section of Settings, IIRC). Search fields for easily finding specific options are great, too (e.g. Android's main Settings app; JetBrains' IDEs; …). A search field could even allow less-technical users to access "advanced" settings when following an online tutorial or being guided over the phone by tech support (or a more-or-less willing relative!), without forcing them to hunt through dozens/hundreds of settings. Of course, excellent GUI design can also allow deep customisation without presenting the user with a cluttered mess of an interface (options screens with 5+ rows of tabs… 😬), but that can be very hard and expensive to get right…

[@billr3053]

I feel for you with those frustrations about Adobe After Effects. I've used several image processors and movie editors - even ones made for the so-called "friendly" Apple that's supposed to be all made for creative / artistic type people in the industry. I have found similar issues - complexities of creating a "project" (sheesh), or saving quickly, or finding how to clip and move or import stuff. Everything is counterintuitive and mostly hard to find how to do the most basic things it seems. I don't know. I'm sure it's all 'user error", but things shouldn't be defaulted to being difficult and frustrating.

[@mikecowen6507]

As you pointed out, it defaults to "Apple user" mode. I'm sorry, but one shouldn't *need* a lobotomy to effectively use a piece of software.

[@nagizah8]

The way it's done in premiere looks so janky. In Resolve I just have to use a planar tracker and set it to stabilize and since Resolve is very GPU hungry it goes really fast. Edit: Mixed up cloud tracker (the one we use in the colour tab for applying local effects) with planar tracker (the one in Resolve Fusion that can be used for fixed-point image stabilization)

[@tracz99]

Damn, wish it was GPU hungry for an OpenCL card. I'm part of no CUDA gang. I'm very sad.

[@nagizah8]

@@tracz99 I Use an RX480, the only place I see that it gets underutilized is for final rendering, most other function I usually see uses of 30% or more depending on the effect, resolution and if its H265.

[@nagizah8]

Plus. It only is about the 30% line because most processes tend to be held back by the lack of horsepower coming from my old core I5

[@MazeFrame]

@@tracz99 Resolve uses my AMD-card quite nicely (depends on effects). Then again, my system is quite snappy overall.

[@milesprower6641]

divinchi resolve might be able to help stabilize using the light meter as a reference point

[@TechnologyConnextras]

If I run into this problem again that might be worth looking into, though honestly I have my doubts it would work as well as I would like given how hard it was for AE just to motion track the meter. The variability of how much it moved around was just... a lot.

[@ralfoide]

@@TechnologyConnextras The tracking in Resolve works exactly as it does in AE with the same 2 rectangle concepts. You'd benefit from running the tracker within the editor on only the segments you want to keep after cutting, and without generating temp files though. The Resolve stabilizer would likely still be confused because you want to stabilize the frame and not the content (which moves oddly after you "de-stabilize"); as someone explained above, that would be solved in Resolve by creating a graph with a contrast node where you saturate the image (to white out the content), track the black & white image, and then apply the tracking to the original image. The graph/node editing in Resolve is a lot of fun, it's just visual programming essentially; although it does imply a learning curve.

[@DaveSomething]

pretty kitty! cat seemed annoyed too! "oh, it's you with your cameras..."

[@truckerallikatuk]

And now, with a massive processing task to do, that the limitations of a modest laptop become apparent...

[@kkyz13]

Welcome to the realm of visual effects (and #teampixel) ! Just wanna say that image tracking is a necessary evil, though After Effects is a lot less scary the more you use it (if it's just really slow, a common complaint for all vfx artists) I usually go get a cup of tea and amp myself for more work while I let the tracker(s) work its magic. I love the original video, and thank you for the informative investigation of light metering!

[@ThomasGabrielsen]

You might know this, but it might helpful for other viewers: This happens because the phone is using the accelerometer and gyroscope to stabilise the video instead of optic stabilisation. Steve Mould made a video as a proof of concept, and the funny thing is that he used a box and the video filmed the wall. If he had cut out a square in the side of the box the video were filming he would got the same result as you. I won't post the link due to KZbin's overzealous spam filter, but here is the watch code: a6jJzOc9gaE

[@radicalxedward8047]

This is one of the niche pros of iOS doing live processing on photos/videos. You always know exactly what it’s going to look like while you’re taking it.

[@user2C47]

Same with the stock Samsung camera app.

[@Bleudog]

The scrolling back to 'on target' is alot easier by just pressing page up/down to scroll trough the frames quickly. Also i find davinci's area tracking to work a lil quicker but that might just have been in my case.

[@Bryan-ob9if]

hey im sure somebody has already mentioned, but the reason your after effects file was so gigantic was probably because it was exporting to an .avi, which is not compressed at all. For some reason, thats the default file type ae exports to. Adobe does an excellent job making sure all of their programs use different shortcuts/hotkeys/workflows to make things as confusing as possible. There's no competition!

[@PainterVierax]

That's why people use a desktop as a workstation instead of a laptop. Maybe this time lost in post prod will make you rethink about your editing setup. AE and Premiere now scales very well on highly multithreaded CPUs so you may even consider some used 1st gen Ryzen as a cheap backup setup.

[@JMPDev]

Would it have been possible to use levels and contrast to make everything in the frame completely white, and then track opposite corners of the-now white box? Might have given you more accurate/stable tracking.

[@noisycarlos]

Next time, try Mocha (included in AE). It should be faster and more stable for this particular case (though the interface is a bit confusing at first)

[@anotheruser9876]

Maybe next time trim most of the black on the outside of the frame before doing anything to it? In the end you could always add it back but it will save some time (fewer pixels to do calculations on).

[@welix94]

The Google Fotos app has a pretty good video stabilization feature, maybe this would've helped you out. Was a very informative video nevertheless!

[@noclip_st]

The problem is, the warpiness in the end is just terrible. I have a phone which doesn't have an optical stabilization but relies on an electronic one instead (Xiaomi Mi A3). I don't really use it much though, because while it's turned on it consumes a sizeable portion of a viewfinder (for a lack of better word, I don't know what it's called) to counteract motion. There's simply less stuff on the screen, it kind of "zooms in". But I have to admit it performs surprisingly well, much better than I expected. Google Photos does a horrible job on my phone, not to mention it takes a lot of time to process.

[@blade3412]

Thanks for sharing this behind the scenes look. I loved your original video.

[@rivendrive]

This is a great example of why you want you spend time getting the content you need instead taking a whole evening fiddling with bad material to make it work

[@chubbyadler3276]

Informative info for when I may start needing motion tracking, but what was going on with your voice right at the start?

[@thomasfuchs78]

You need to add some conspiracy theories for the algorithm. "How NASA used light meters to expose ancient aliens!" or something.

[@radicalxedward8047]

Actually now that I think of it. I probably would have made a routine in photoshop to crop/rotate every frame, put it back on a black background and then made it back into a video.

[@FishFind3000]

8:25 I think it’s the speed/power of the computer. Pros have the top of the line gear.

[@T0phen95]

Gotta love the intro. If I was drinking at the time, I would've spat my drink out.

[@karellen00]

"I don't want to overdo it with fancy graphics" Has literally a 3D rendered background, that needs incredible editing techniques to just fake the picking up of an object!

[@helljester8097]

Old tech: Here I’m going to try to make life easier for you. User: Well this ain’t too bad New tech: Look how I made things perfect! User: Actually you ruined everything...

[@Spartan_Jackal]

you said "after effects" and my eye involuntarily twitched

[@MobFactory]

Mocha is included in after effects and works way better for that kinda of stuff

[@dhpbear2]

12:56 - I'm curious what phone you use for the simple reason that it CAN'T be switched out of 'stabilization' mode! :)

[@ShaneFromSA]

Warp Stabiliser in premiere might have fixed this a lot faster.

[@TheJunky228]

could you have just had google run their stabilization algorithm in google photos? edit: I saw a reply to someone else about a warp stabilizer not focusing on what you wanted, so maybe this route wouldn't have worked either for the same reason...

[@radicalxedward8047]

Ohhh man, did the phone camera try to stabilize the image while the two were connected to each other. Ha ha.

[@hellelujahh]

Such a show off, trying to look superior to the poor old Canon!

[@ReverendTed]

Why do you have an Edge icon in your taskbar? Do you use it?

[@SeanCMonahan]

Yo, dawg, I heard you liked image stabilization, so I used After Effects motion tracking to undo the motion compensation from your camera.

[@SeanCMonahan]

I know who I am. I'm a camera recording a camera looking at another camera.

[@thomasesr]

Omg, this video I love it! It's amazing!

[@OrangeCat__]

I recommend using Open Camera, lots more configuration

[@j616s]

As the old adage goes "we'll fix it in post" :D

[@StevenJacksonSTEtv]

I'm happy you've discovered more tools in using After Effects, and I've been in exactly the same position before... But your life will change when you realise that Mocha is built in to After Effects, and it absolutely trashes AE's tracking. You may never need to track camera motion again, but if you do, PLEASE look into Mocha (its in your After Effects!). Its easy once you know what stuff does, and it'll save you both time and pain. 👌

[@drone_video9849]

Mocha planer would have been ideal for this. I hope he sees your note and discovers the tool; it would have been 100% locked own tracking and really fast also.

[@radicalxedward8047]

Holy crap I took a double take of the channel name with that opening voice.

[@martythestines]

I have my notifications on for your channels. So I always see your content when its new. Also, 2k views an hour.... Not bad.

[@JimmyMcThiccus]

It just unsubscribed me from your main channel

[@jawjuk]

I love this video because it is amazing.

[@bergermaestro]

Oddly enough this was recommended to me when the other one didn't even show up in my sub feed...

[@Bassquake76]

How bigs your monitor?? The font is tiny!

[@TechnologyConnextras]

43 inches. On my desktop I use the LG 43UD79B

[@TheJunky228]

@@TechnologyConnextras That's 2" larger than my dang TV (Fujitsu Plasmavision)! My monitor is an LG 23EA63 (23"), I don't even have the desk space for that behemoth lol

[@TechnologyConnextras]

@@TheJunky228 It does require a fairly large desk but for me? It's wonderful for editing video. One quadrant is 1080P, so my preview window in Premiere is both giant and crisp, while still having tons of room for bins and whatnot. There are a lot of applications, though, where it's just... not ideal so it's definitely not the right monitor for most folks.

[@Bassquake76]

@@TechnologyConnextras Cool. Watching it on a 55" 1080p TV the text is so small its not even funny! 😄

[@TheJunky228]

@@TechnologyConnextras that sounds like it makes for a great setup! I like compact and information-dense displays, so maybe getting a 4k monitor should be in my future plans lol my main monitor is 1080p, though sometimes I run it with supersampling and gpu scaling to fit a 1440p image on it... that TV is from 2005 and 720p lol, it's great for movies and tv with the color and whatnot, but I tried reading a document on it and it was not a great experience. I used to have a triple monitor setup, and still have the other two screens -- old TN panels, one 1600x900 SCEPTRE x22wg or something, and one hannspree 1080p monitor -- they're pretty old and I've previously repaired the power supply boards on both as well I'm not much of a content creator, so screens don't really matter for me, and I prefer the ol' "keep it till it's broke" motto for my gear

[@eladalfassa]

Thanks for the video! both this one and the main one. They were great.

[@tracz99]

Who's gonna tell him DaVinci Resolve has an automatic stabilize function.

[@johngaltline9933]

I'm slightly confused... The whole video was about auto stabilization in aftereffects and fixing an issue caused by auto stabilization.

[@TechnologyConnextras]

You think Premiere doesn't? Warp Stabilizer just doesn't work for this because it's not meant to track one specific thing.

[@nagizah8]

@@TechnologyConnextras It's weird that AE is so bad at keeping the points fixed. I guess Resolve's planar tracker spoiled me

[@tracz99]

@@nagizah8 That's what I commented about. You just go bip bop boop, abra cadabra, stabilize this footage I have-a (?) and it just works.

[@ZGryphon]

(Nikolas Lloyd voice) _Ev-er-y-bo-dy._

[@gudenau]

I saw you changing the thumbnail. :-P No idea why the video wouldn't be doing well though. KZbin just doesn't like its creators I guess.

[@SleepingCocoon]

yeahhhh after effects is a .... it's a thing. an ordeal. the power it provides is obscene but without the specs to match it, it's a nightmare. i took a deep dive into it a couple years back and already forget nearly everything - this was before my GPU upgrade, too, so complex scenes made more sense to measure in "frames per minute"

[@NathanLipkeEvilN8]

Next video: After Effects why I need a desktop computer with a souped-up video card. 😝 Seriously great videos, and I didn’t notice any funniness in the main video.

[@Streamtronics]

So, here's a workflow trick: In Premiere, right click a clip, choose "replace with after effects composition". When rendering the video in Premiere (or I recommend exporting it into the AME (adobe media encoder) queue so you have a preview of where in the video it actually is) it will treat the Ae comp inside the Premiere projects like a clip. It'll load Ae in the background and render that. So no real need for large intermediate files in this case. Render times should be not too bad either as long as the tracking was done in the Ae project beforehand. However, when you expect to render the Pr project multiple times, it'd be smart to render an intermediate file out of Ae anyway. For this, try using AME from within after effects, and then choose a format like DNxHD HQ which is my preferred intermediate format. (The Ae internal encoder doesn't support all the fancy file types, instead of being stuck with some uncompressed AVI or even a PNG sequence. It also lets you queue renders in general from multiple adobe apps, which is great)

[@phischtv4497]

AfterEffects comes with Mokka Tracker.... would be easy to track the image-plane.....

[@AdultsHaveToysToo]

I find it really interesting you started a series on film photography just as I'm getting into film photography. My Nikon N65 broke so my father in law gave me his old Pentax Spotmatic which is completely mechanical with a super simple light meter. I like your idea to get the view through the viewfinder. I never would have thought that stabilization would cause so much of an issue.

[@power-max]

Yeah I made a video in Blender (on my channel) playing with motion tracking in Blender, and it was a very painful experience, it's surprising to see the commercial/expensive solution is no better! Liked your other video to help with algorithm maybe.

[@AzraelEnterprise]

You don't need AfterEffects, Your' videos are near perfect(nothings perfect) and i actually hate over edited videos/movie scenes. The over-stimulation is bad. Your videos are good.

[@oriole8789]

I use Resolve to edit videos for another KZbinr here with typically 100-200 cuts for videos less than 10 mins, and I would never in a million years touch Premiere or anything else again. It takes me maybe 2-3 hours to make those hundreds of frame-perfect cuts. The "Cut" area of Resolve is incredibly useful. All the other things are just far better. The denoising in the Studio version is incredible. I've dealt with the noisiest darkest shots and made them completely perfect. Tracking is extremely fast as well. You'd have to use the Fusion section of Resolve for a more complex tracking job but it's very straightforward as well. FAR faster than AE. No comparison. Premere is junk to me. The one very useful Adobe app is the updated Media Encoder. I output as CineForm out of Resolve and compress into h265 with Media Encoder (about 20Mbps for KZbin for 1080p60), which is both extremely fast and exceptionally high quality. Far better than Handbrake or other free solutions I've tried. Good luck with your vids!!

[@lurkersmith810]

You wouldn't have this problem if you'd shot it with a Sony DXC-M3 camera and edited on Sony VO-5850 / 5800 and RM-440! (Oh, please go find this equipment and do a video on it!) Sadly, that's the last time I edited video. I'm old.

[@TheWilldrick]

Pixel has a pretty solid camera tho. Also try OpenCamera on the older OnePlus for a full-manual camera. Speaking of silly I'm going back to a Nokia 3310, higly missed having to charge my phone only once a WEEK.

[@RonAlbert]

I think DaVinci Resolve is the solution for this. Its a good video editing program and its surprisingly fast than AE and Premier. Also has a motion tracker and motion stabilizer. It also has an option for "No Motion" that you might need!

[@michalpbielawski]

Dunno if it's AE or your machine (or the mp4 files?), but I don't think it's supposed to be this slow. I did some video tracking/stabilisation in Davinci Resolve and it was tracking 4k gopro videos close to real time on my 2017 MBP.

[@RickyMau1]

196,683 views Oct 30, is performing poorly. Than you ain't going to like how this video is performing. Ignore 1+, they're beyond help, they are gone/lost. Google accept 3A as trade in.

[@the8bitbarn836]

Personally I watched the 1st video and though it was part of the Blair Witch project... LOL naw just kidding hey love your videos! Sometimes technology just tries too hard, Image stability? your talking o an 8 mm kinda guy all of my videos look like that at least in the 80s. So with that said I do know how to use after affects I took a class in community college to learn it and it's a great tool. Best Mentor for after Affects would be Andrew Cranmer and video co-pilot here on you tube! And by the way I'm not on any phone team I think they all are over achievers! (Samsung S10+) too expensive I bought 4 for me and my family at $960 a pop! Great video great channel love the bloopers and out takes! Great writing as well!

[@CoffeeOnRails]

I would seriously recommend looking at Resolve (and Fusion). It has a tracker and stabiliser built into it and it appears to be GPU accelerated too (it runs great on a 1060 at like probably 10-20 fps depending on the video)! IK it's something different and a crazy new way of working (in fusion) but if you're also new to AE, it's probably not much of a learning curve.

[@IanZainea1990]

The speed of your tracking is accurate for AE. It's pretty slow. And in any tutorial they are speeding it up, or their track actually sucks. You actually might have got a more locked track using the intersection of the white & red & black. Yes, always edit first, then do any VFX. People trying to do VFX on full 10 minute clips are foolish IMO. The average VFX shot is under 100 frames. Great work though.

[@dizzcorn1000]

The average person replaces their phone every 2 years. If everyone bought a $150 phone instead of a $900 phone (not including the insurance on that $900 phone) they could buy a plane ticket to Europe every 2 years... so, I'll keep my cheap LGs... they always work with foreign SIMs without issue

[@alastara]

yeah! thanks, Technology... ...Connections for teaching me so many interesting and random facts and features about old tech! forever appreciated =]

[@lvnlar]

Love your videos and the extras! Thank you for sharing, sometimes everyone feels like a dumb 🤣