Reforged Undead has FEMALE Death Knights - GOT TO SEE! No complaints allowed challenge - Grubby

We're repeating one of the toughest challenges to ever be on this channel: I have to play with Reforged graphics, but I CANNOT complain in any shape or form, but this time there's a caveat! We're going for the female Death Knight model! Oh dear...
Reforged Undead has FEMALE Death Knights (Game played on 19-May-2023)
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[@user-ry2yh1ky2j]

I come from China and I really like War3. My classmates and I used to watch game videos of you and Sky in middle school. At that time, the strongest humanoid race was Sky from China, and the orc race was Grubby

[@jakecheong664]

Vpn moment

[@wuynltrong8875]

Ccp d

[@lachlank.8270]

+5000 social credit

[@xChimkin]

technically all races are humanoid

[@pho3nix-]

FoV was one of the greatest players

[@matsuokenta1]

For a death knight she looks pretty healthy. Also her hair looks like the end of a mop. Why did they change the Naga hero's death sound to that of a Naga Siren Caster? I like her more when she sound like a grandma who just fell of a chair.

[@FollowGrubby]

XD

[@lachlank.8270]

UghhhhHhh-iyuh *woooosh*

[@TheVanillatech]

Pushed my grandma off the chair just so I could understand what you meant. I can confirm, it's just as you said.

[@769_tYu]

@@TheVanillatech Ayooo?!?!

[@AsgeirAakre]

She stares at you like you walked in on her pooping a big one.

[@dodde216]

I really love the choice of immersion breaking neon green grass, truly masterful

[@belisarian6429]

As Grubby already established, its is Starwars universe, so that is lorefriendly spaceship fuel spill.

[@JacobNax]

regarding those red lasers at around 5:40 , It's technically the visuals of the wisp that move from one frame to the other because they are probably culled away from the screen frostum to reduce rendering usage and then when it comes into camera view, the code instantly moves the position of the vfx to the wisp, this creates a trail from the particle effect of the wisp. hope that helps!

[@a.y.102]

I suspect the trail come from the wisp's last known location.

[@JacobNax]

@@a.y.102 it's a very common problem in video game development, moving objects instantenuously from one position to the other without interpolation that have a trail particle.

[@deathtidegame]

they just have to disable the trail before changing the pos

[@Amoeby]

This is the only challenge I want Grubby to fail instantly.

[@mirakil7636]

These reforged graphics hurt my eyes. You have my condolences.

[@billba1330]

Idk, I find them really pretty and I'm happy for a change after seeing the same thing for years

[@savuflorin6242]

As someone who started with reforged its the other way around for me

[@Tweakerbythespeaker]

@@billba1330 how do you type while blind?

[@billba1330]

@@Tweakerbythespeaker I'm sorry but what do people find exactly "ugly" about the new graphics. I legitimately don't understand. Old graphics are iconic, but the new ones are straight up more up to date

[@Tweakerbythespeaker]

@@billba1330 They really aren't though, this is like outsourcing art to a middle school. It's really poorly done & looks entirely unfinished, like its a few layers short of a finished product. I don't know how anyone can look at this and not see it as ugly, I know aesthetic things are a matter of opinion and taste but it just screams poorly done.

[@menedian]

OK they really need to fix the readability issue. For most readability issues a simple color palette modification would do a lot already. Like one of the reasons the OG necromancer is so readable is because of his super saturated red cloak (his silhouette is also super clear ofc but that would be harder to fix)

[@kalorakalora]

Brilliant tactical play. The hiding behind the creeps was awesome, and Grubby judged the timing so accurately he was literally starting the camp as soon as oppo turned around. Possibly the best tactical player I have ever seen

[@DZHaart]

After a quarter hour of watching a dark blue-purple blob wade through green acid, visit paths of black sponge from time to time, and collide randomly with a red-orange-grown-green blob… Seeing the same in REAL graphics was unbelievably cathartic.

[@flugzeugtagerauenbeleuchtu468]

Love the shiny portraits. Such improvement!

[@pho3nix-]

Lmao

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

I approve of goth mommy death knight. In theory. The implementation is… something else. Why isn’t her portrait animating when she speaks? 😮

[@alcatraz160]

budget cuts.

[@astaroth2454]

Because blizzard is a small indie company founded in Uganda cut them some slack

[@arutemisemtrai9769]

Honestly it might be bugged out, half the time all of my portraits don't speak.

[@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940]

​@@astaroth2454 because you can easily cash in on millions of blizzard if you have the trust and reach, without needing to invest any siginifant money. Means more money to ceos and investors.

[@zytha2890]

@@alcatraz160 It's actually cause of the massive backlash they got tbh The game isn't really being worked on nearly as much as retail WoW atm and probably won't be in the future. Personally... They should have used HoTS engine for warcraft reforged because I'm a little annoyed that no pathing changes happened. When going to another side of the map the game still makes units get stuck on a random tree line just like it did before reforged. The pathing was never improved or fixed. Meanwhile HoTS pathing works great.

[@user-zu6mp3uc4z]

"it happened to me once, in a game against Lyn..." I would be absolutely terrified if the screen was loading and I saw that my opponent had the usernames of "Lianpia", or "Lyn" or the three ideograms with his famous Shadow Hunter icon and the 2,680 MMR rating next to it, Imagine non-ironically starting a WC3 conversation with:"I was playing against Lyn...". You are a man of much bigger balls than me, Grub. Congrats.

[@FlowLikeWater429]

The hiding play reminds me of the DOTA ai that was pretending to be stupid in order to bait the enemy to come. It was walking (like patrol) back and forth in vision like it didn’t know what it was doing, but it was all on purpose

[@rmdec]

5:25 Those red lasers are lazy brogramming, they happened in a game called Heroes of Newerth as well. The unit or some effect recycled or not updated when off screen, because that's how games reuse memory, but when they're in range, they suddenly zoom into place. The laser may be an effect that takes wisps last position into account.

[@tombom6643]

The problem for me is they overworked the design to mutch clutter in the details. somewhere in between reforged and Orginal would have been mutch better.

[@sqly3129]

Check warcraft models in Starcraft 2, those look way fucking better

[@elpsykoongro5379]

They also made frostmure into a big ass chunk of iron that in reality would only work if you are guts from berserk The original one looked like a sword

[@zytha2890]

@@elpsykoongro5379 It's meant to look imposing tbh even in the old cut scenes and animations the sword has a really weighty movement to it despite how small it is so it still works fine

[@PervyAutomaton]

@@zytha2890 I dont know, would likely have been better if the art for it was made inhouse.

[@arohk4415]

I love how Manaburn looks like life drain, makes it so much clearer to see.

[@CloudSephiroth]

Grubby was sarcastic less than 5 minutes in! 😂 challenge… FAILED. Nice try tho. Much longer than last time. 😅

[@f000d0]

Grubby thought, if it doesnt sound sarcastic, it doesnt count as sarcasm 😆 (same as If i cant see you, you cant see me)

[@Artdovskyy]

I am Russian and I remember that sweet times hanging with boys discussing recent wc3 strategies and grubby's gameplay style etc. Amazing time.

[@gravesforland4165]

'Always search all the way', damn, even in the small outro you bring something precious.

[@POINTS2]

5:23 Challenge fails hard when a red Star Wars laser shots across the screen

[@user-ct2dj4bg6s]

You know what they say beauty requires sacrifies. And our sacrifice is bleeding from the eyes

[@kabatovec007]

So glad I waited whole video, that Grubbys laugh when he confirmed that the opponent didnt find him was so funny

[@yGKeKe]

I think the laser is a glitch with the wisp being revealed and then immediately going back into fog as you walk by too fast. Probably happens with other units too if they pop into vision and immediately pop out.

[@anthonycorisdeo2808]

“I love it, the more legs the better” 😂😂😂

[@ZeRafut]

I actually never watched a game with reforged graphics before. I Saw how ugly it was by watching screenshots but I never witnessed it live. I genuinely had si much trouble telling things apart. My sight is starting to lower, so when they started playing on grassy ground it genuinely made my eyes hurt.

[@lachlank.8270]

The grass is radioactive now thank u Blizz ❤

[@Kugrox]

tbh i genuinely had no idea what was happening at any given moment in this video

[@PervyAutomaton]

@@Kugrox Blizzard didt even do the art, it was Outsourced

[@Mene0]

I mean, the skins and all are cool, I think this is one positive thing we all wanetd from Reforged, like, let me play as Jaina in regular matches replacing the Archmage model etc. But not only we didn't get much of that, well...we got all the other stuff Reforged brought

[@nseven1117]

I like the genderbent versions of the heroes, if only if the execution was done right.

[@arohk4415]

yeah all they had to do was to update the graphics a little bit, increase the resolutions and maybe a few more polygons, not a completly different style.

[@nseven1117]

@@arohk4415 or at least use a cartoony style instead of the lifeless uncanny valley stuff

[@staceygram5555]

Warcraft was already 'diverse'. No need to wokify it.

[@mnmmnmm]

@@staceygram5555 what is wokify mean?

[@nseven1117]

@@staceygram5555 believe me, there's nothing I hate more that forced diversity. I just like the idea of having different genders for units

[@user-cg5df1ys5g]

another reforged pvp grub,looks amazing.

[@archsteel7]

I don’t actually think the female death knight is bad. It’s just that she’s in reforged, so she’s surrounded by bad which makes her seem bad.

[@mrszmatan2727]

I believe that many Heroes can have both female and male versions, but don't half ass it at least

[@archsteel7]

@@mrszmatan2727 Agreed. The concept isn’t bad, it’s just that *reforged* is bad.

[@alexman4540]

much respect, I'd definitely have an easier time beating 5 Grubbys while playing blindfolded than completing this challange

[@vladislavkaras491]

I thought Reforged is not that bad, but when I saw the graphics once again... well, I refuse from previous words! :D Thanks for the video!

[@elunegracee]

"always search all the way" motto of airport security

[@Lif3tec]

nice stealth instinct. Well played

[@a.f.7650]

Loved that bonus! Also, bonus had the best graphics. 😊

[@f000d0]

I had no doubt Grubby would win this challenge without being sarcastic. I also think the graphics are perfect and make it easier to see whats going on.

[@sokarash]

In all honesty: didn't they also make a female version of the Death Knight available in classic graphics? Like with the female Demon Hunter?

[@nintendomusicchannel1317]

Yes ❤

[@xChimkin]

it works without the trash upgrade yes

[@yGKeKe]

Yes, but it looks ridiculous in classic. It at least looks female in reforged. In classic it's just Arthas with lipstick.

[@MrJsexy]

wait they made a female demon hunter??

[@Jny235]

Red Star Wars laser followed by missing an agility book in an acid grass. 👏👏👏

[@Dhomden]

Heartfelt Reforged enjoyment aside, the dommy mommy goth DK does sound quite a bit better than the bent DH. I give her 'hiya' 4 out of 5 Lunas

[@NoxXxuS]

what the heck is this size of Medusa at 18:13? First I thought it's some new snake NPC creep.

[@nomercy8989]

I found something to compliment! The invulnerability potion effect looks nice.

[@limon4ev]

Damnn! That hidding play was lovely and the fact that it paid off is even cooler.

[@alexandre588]

Wow Grubby the hiding worked perfectly 😂

[@nonturtle6430]

Sudden laser for wisp? A bug indeed?

[@liocdeparmesan3885]

No, it's for the immersion

[@jaymxu]

It was a camera light reflection from the Whisp, sorta like that. 😊 And yeah it sucks.

[@zytha2890]

not specifically a bug just unintended particle effect lol feel like the hate bandwagon is real if that's what people are scrutinizing

[@nonturtle6430]

@@zytha2890 "unintended blabla", will at least put sneaky wisps in danger if triggered often, so what's your definition of a bug? LOL, I just showed some unsure opinion, there was nothing about "hate". Your anti-hate claim shows yourself's potiential hate. Do it better next time. lol

[@Quillraven]

Damn, everything is so freakin ... black and colorless. At the beginning it looks like a big black mob moving around. Then the elf fight and the bears also are black/super dark? Naga is super small and looks like a merc. The invu effect on the demon hunter was like almost invisible. And the list goes on and on... I think the models itself are fine but they really need to change the colors/brightness/contrast or whatever makes them more colorful and also easier to visualize to which player they belong. I could imagine this is not a huge effort and would make reforged maybe a viable option for online gaming. At the moment it is really a huge disadvantage using those graphics.

[@I21oIoIl3]

Reforged crypt fiends move like the spider boggart from the Prisoner of Azkaban movie that was transformed into wearing skates with the Riddikulus spell.

[@TheVanillatech]

Grubby the easter egg was awesome! The sixth sense! :D

[@macmac277]

Just tape your mouth and mumble in morse code. That way, even if you complain, there is very little chance anyone will know!

[@masterexploder9668]

Yeah that's the thing about scouting, you need to scout all the way. Like DuGalle said it best in Brood War: are you ready to go all the way, Alexei?

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

The graphics look good individually (in most cases) -- the problem is when you put them together in a real game, including the terrain, it gets hard to see things. Although I am gradually sort of getting used to it, but I will always miss the easy-to-see WarCraft III Classic graphics.

[@zytha2890]

its more of muscle memory lol you've been so used to the old graphics and shapes that the new ones throw you off

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

@@zytha2890 I see this phenomenon when watching Grubby's videos, even without having played much myself, so it's not just muscle memory.

[@maoduida387]

@@zytha2890 I had literally never played w3 pre-reforged and when there where side by side comparisons the visibility and the visual fidelity that is provided by classic W3 graphics is leagues upon leagues better than the reforged graphics. Your claim of muscle memory is bs.

[@TankieBoi]

The voice acting is unironically good

[@Kanikalion]

Oh boy, ready to see Grubby fail this one again! Let's go!

[@georgplatzer8213]

I thought the enemie had pretty early Spellbreakers until I realised he is a Night Elf player and its his dryads lol. Also is there female Lich King? or should i say Lich Queen? or Crypt Lady? Dread Lady?

[@saimyintmyat9373]

Crypt Lady and Dread Lady aren't even exist in wow.

[@oscara1573]

There is Jaina dreadlady in Hots

[@JB-jm6lo]

I was confused about the spellbreakers too

[@DZHaart]

The archers kept looking like priests to me.

[@zytha2890]

how'd you get spellbreaker mixed up with dryads lmao they look nothing alike

[@luna775]

I don't understand how the trees and grounds somehow looks worse that the 20 years old original...

[@mazhiwezakizo3513]

I would say that female deathknights don't make sense at the time period that Warcraft 3 takes place, but the artwork and voicelines seem pretty good.

[@flashcactus3790]

Hey Grubby. Love your content. Could you do a video of an Orb Tier list? I have no idea which are good/bad and why.

[@saimyintmyat9373]

Orb of Venom and Orb Of corruption are the best in tier list. Orb Of Lightning is 2nd best. Rest are mostly trash.

[@3Torts]

1:56 !!! LOL

[@kiwimangosurprise]

2:02 nice D2 reference

[@danielfalcao9484]

the gold mine looks like the pokemon geodude that was buried halfway

[@uioup7453]

KZbin imediatelly lowered the video quality when I clicked to play the video, It knew about the horrors I was about to face...

[@rmelzhim6033]

I feel like they just got super tunnel vision when it came to reworking all the units. It's all so painful to look at.

[@zytha2890]

its literally the best improvement tbh it still has the crappy clunky pathing of the original find it weird how so many dislike the only improvement to the game lol

[@tallowick6082]

One of the things I noticed about the new graphics that bugs me is the buildings. When the camera isn't moving, most of them look exactly like pre-rendered sprites. You expect them to have the same perspective even when the camera moves, but get confused with it turns out they are actually 3D. The gold mines and altar of elders are the worst in this regard. They look more detached from the world lighting than the original, or even older games who had no simulated lighting.

[@PervyAutomaton]

Mabye this would not have happend if blizzard made the art them selfs?

[@Bailey2468]

Definitely a 'to each their own' thing, but I honestly don't mind the reforged graphics at all.

[@TheAcidDrip]

2:50 initiate sa-cra-sim boot protocol. 5:25 challenge failed.

[@matnado]

Until 100 years later, the Agility tome still be there!

[@GakisStylianos]

One question I got since I don't play wc myself. Why did he ask for opponent's race but didn't say his back? Or why did he ask in the first place? Is there some sort of etiquette around that question that I am missing?

[@businesscasualsauron]

While the female DK VO lacks a lot of the menace and presence of the male one, the actress did a great job. That 3D portrait is hilariously bad though.

[@slashslash92]

I was afraid you wouldnt's show the reply whether he scouted the goldmine or not, but you did haha

[@RaveMasterSRB]

well its lore possible for fm dk look at mommy Sally Whitmane of the Scarlet Crusade. When it comes to mixing units by visual, its on you. Practice and don't make mistakes.

[@morningbetterlast]

DK icon has glowing blue eyes while the avatar does not. Attention to details in reforged is beyond me.

[@zytha2890]

probably a degenerative bug tbh the game isn't being worked on as much lol after the initial backlash pretty sure bliz pulled just about everyone who was working on it so unless bug reports are made they're probably not even going to know its there there's been some stuff breaking lately too like hero portraits no longer animating on some characters personally they should have remade the game in HoTS engine because warcraft's seems pretty clunky now especially with the terrible pathing that i encounter a *lot* that pathing problem has existed since before reforged was a thought though

[@3Torts]

9:36 LOL

[@tipinwings]

I could bare with the models. But I really can’t handle the colors!

[@dmytromuravskyi9072]

Reforge portrets are so good.

[@chrisdaignault9845]

How many of these skins did they make? There’s a whole backend system for them but I think I’ve only seen 2 and heard of a third

[@kuci1986]

Grubby you got to play RE-REFORGED campaign by InsaneMonster, altough it`s only Scourge of the lordearon, it was pretty good. solid 10/10 IMO :)

[@eeFiroK]

0:48 DK ? Donkey Kong ?

[@TheSting772]

Star Wars realism I laughed out loud

[@davehollis5816]

I love this challenge because I think it literally is impossible. There's just not enough about the graphics that's actually good, so anything you can ever say about it just comes off like sarcasm.

[@xl54U1lx]

Strong and independent DK…..i like how they address important issues in this game

[@luminica_]

It's a good thing this was not a MM otherwise it'd be impossible to tell how fights are going.

[@MrDjBanza]

I must say the map looks pretty good in reforged graphics

[@andreasnorberg8285]

Blizzard sure likes this challenge

[@Jerome...]

Blizzard is a highly regarded gaming company these days

[@likagan727]

I have a suggestion to you Next time you do this challenge say "If I could choose one thing, that would be implemented in warcraft 3, it surely is ..." everytime you want to comment about something. This way you say positive things while dreaming of a world where only 1 of those changes exist!

[@purpletylenol7787]

How do you activate the female model?

[@MrZofer]

flawless company you got me there

[@PeaceCrafter]

Lol it's funny that I am only watching your vids now BECAUSE you are playing Reforged; I know you hate it, but aesthetically it is a very sharp graphical upgrade Imo from 2002.

[@Alexx-uf2lj]

"when i pop up my DK" HMMMM GRUBBY

[@FahrosXIV]

Dear Grubby, I don't want to see you in pain anymore... It's okay...you don't have to take on this challenge anymore...lmao

[@exiled373]

Been watching Spellforce 3 later and it has become the standard for a good amd modern looking RTS for me. Unfortunately, there isnt much content for that game.

[@oldundead]

The grass in Reforged looks radioactive

[@michazamachowski3018]

Do you know if blizzard is working on improving the graphics so it's playable in competitive?

[@dasuberpanda]

is that DH seppoku-ing himself with his weapon in the death animation?

[@macsenhayes]

Watched this all the way through and totally did not give up halfway in disgust and repulsion.

[@renzocoppola4664]

Scaling, palette changes, and particle retouch could make its graphics beareable.

[@roderbergis4038]

NO SARCASM!! lol you failed SO many times dont even pretend! haha

[@mattiaminiucchi1077]

actually i think is playable reforged and is very good to see new models

[@Parendinate]

As a viewer, Reforged Graphics are damn good

[@nikolasweischner3560]

Omg I had to back the video up 3 times because I swore it was just a skeleton too. Wow.

[@FernandoGuerrero-bo5rs]

So... Then there is an Demon Hunter female, female paladin and an Priest of the Moon?

[@marcelohm123]

Serious question: What are the (main) problems with reforged? Played a lot of wc3 when I was about 10 -13 years old (17 years ago). Recently really enjoying these Grubby videos. All I ever heard from reforged was that it was seen as a huge let down by the community and that seemingly noone uses reforged graphics. So I would really be interested in hearing what the problems with reforged and the graphics are. I'm currently 5 minutes into the video and the unit models seem quite nice. However what in the Mountain Dew is that grass color :D.