🎙️ Following On India: What Now For India After Shock Defeat Against New Zealand?! 🇮🇳😱

Neil Manthorp and Cricket Writer & Broadcaster Jarrod Kimber look back at India's eight wicket defeat to New Zealand in Bengaluru, with the Black Caps earning their first Test win in India since 1988.
They are also joined by Indian Cricket Commentator Chetan Narula to discuss Rishabh Pant's fitness, debate what changes India need to make for this week's second Test, and discuss what the conditions will be like in Pune. They also hear exclusively from the former New Zealand captain Jeremy Coney, who reflects on New Zealand's achievement.
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[@Ajay.369v]

Also remember India lost 1-0 in Nzland(away series in 2014) India also lost 2-0 in Nzland(away series in 2020) India last won a series in Nzland in 2009 away.

[@Riuytfhjklf4634]

India has won 1 test in NZ in 58 yrs😂😂😂😂😂

[@sanjit30121983]

@@Riuytfhjklf4634ind won 5 test in nz and nz won 3 in India. India won 2 test series in NZ and NZ is yet to win test series in India So what’s your point

[@Riuytfhjklf4634]

​@@sanjit30121983lol! The fact that India has won 1 in last 58 yr still remains true, NZ has won 3 tests in India in that time period

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

@@sanjit30121983 His point is NZ is a tough team to beat, and this is not even their best team, no KW and their best bowler, Kyle Jamieson, who has an incredible strike rate of wickets at test level, is not even playing.

[@free-turin]

So India lost this 1st test and NZ didn’t win it and got 20 lucky wickets..and of course an Aussie isn’t going to talk up a Kiwi win as much but finally talking to Coney he did manage to squeeze out a few creds 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️…thanks Chetan for acknowledging NZ may actually have a good side with a lot of younger players coming through

[@Amiittk]

New Zealand played well, but India batting first was the main catalyst for the loss.

[@diyguru9677]

@@Amiittk Alternately, New Zealand bowling first was the main difference.

[@diyguru9677]

Jeremy Coney: I never quite made it through Gandalf, the movie. Wait, there's a book too? No there's 3.... that's sloppy fielding from Bilbo on the boundary and it's gone for FOUR.

[@prakashmahtani6345]

2019 Test at Pune 600 was the first innings score by India, and won the game by an innings. Its not been a rank turner.

[@Stud31]

Nowadays if india loses a match it becomes an upset what a standard indian cricket have .... Everybody is jealous of indian cricket 😂

[@TennisJunkies]

Really, the only major thing they have for past 12 years is a t20 world cup- which happens every two years and let's also include two series in Australia and in the same time Australia has two ODI world cups, one t20 and WTC

[@shreyashsachan3787]

​​@@TennisJunkies you guys are more worried about team india coz you're are not able to digest the success of our team..the most consistent team currently is team India.. and the drought is over after the wc win and it's just the beginning.

[@krishnasa8916]

@@TennisJunkies Can't agree more!

[@NostalgicBastard]

Don't worry. It will become a normal during the BGT.

[@benhurley7366]

@@shreyashsachan3787 Bro please talk when you have results. Not that hard?

[@davidrichmond7446]

Part of the reason India were dismissed for 46 was NZ's catching- five were excellent

[@suchith9327]

Rohit sharma had done lot of blunders and mistakes like wrong reading of pitch and selection blunders and got away often because of his good image. But it is costing india big time

[@SohamBhattacharya3105]

Literally nobody predicted the pitch would play that way. Neither the Indian team, nor the NZ team. Not a single expert around the world expected it.

[@marathiboi96]

India had that match both for draw and win in second innings when khan and pant had started to take lead, But then khan gets out, pant edges out on 99 and then comes in the depression of Indian team, KL rahul, A guy who literally wets the bed, moment a little pressure comes on him, unless he's accompanied by someone like virat, who can keep him in check, that guy is a statue, he can't run in pressure, he can't hit in pressure, If india wants to win wtc, They need to drop that guy. KL is a dead weight. And if his fans told me his stats, please, that's a thing of past, bigger players have been dropped while not in form

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

Jeremy Coney is 72 looks 10-15 years younger than he is.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

India need to go on offensive. Only sundar has ability to play fast bowlers with new ball in case its needed. You need to be tall batsman. Kl Rahul despite tall cant play in asian condition. He is very good in swinging condition( england and sa). India should drop kl rahul. India should not pick kl rahul to australia. It would be a blunder. Aussies apply pressure and he will choke.

[@ibadat7282]

If india wants to win wtc then only chance is if the final is vs rsa if india manages to het it in final and has to play aus then i think its better indoa don't even qualify for final because india will 100 pec loose wtc final if oponent is australia so indoa must win bgt by huge margin or else no hope for india

[@rahulkadam3602]

Overthinking & Overconfidence.. Gambhir & Rohit spent 30 mins inspecting the pitch..

[@psykevactive9114]

I think its high time that kl rahul and siraj must be rested...get in gill, sundar and samson in place of pant due to his injury...

[@ratnakarkale7402]

Whats shock about NZ beating India ? They are a very good team , they reached WTC final a few years back. They are extremely good fielding side & all-round side , they deserve to win this series with Indian stars out of form with batting relying on pant & tail .

[@ganesankrishnaraj1948]

If nz had batted first , you will be speaking the exact opposite thing. Don t drink and bluff some crap.

[@TheOfficialEmirati]

The first time nz has won in india in over 30 years, how is that not a shock?

[@Bhavik630]

Whats shock about NZ beating India? Sure it is a shock, they have won a test match in India after 36 years.. if thats not a shock i dont know what is

[@Trajan2401]

They werent out of form in the second innings 😂.

[@Trajan2401]

To me its not a shock if we beat India.

[@atulpandey6500]

If india can't win 4 out of 7 test matches then no point of reaching wtc final as most likely they will loose it too

[@Ivandrago89]

Khush to bahot hoge tum

[@prsworld]

Exactly

[@Legendgaming-tp1is]

I want to laugh at that Chethan guy lol after watching NZ spinners he is saying they have chance

[@Priyank_hq]

what happened to Kyle Jamieson ?

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

Stress fracture on back - and lucky for India as he is a heck of a bowler. with strike rate of Shane Bond, and lots of bounce with his enormous height.

[@Richard-d1y]

Normally I love to troll Indian fans, but today I am a changed man, and instead I would like to acknowledge that the Indian team has many good players, and that they are one of the best test teams in the whole of Asia. I say that sincerely. Good luck with the next test India.

[@TennisJunkies]

One of the best teams in whole of Asia, that itself is a troll

[@Richard-d1y]

@@TennisJunkies Oh. Why? You are, right? I'm confused. To me, India is one of the best test teams in the whole of Asia. Why is that trolling? I don't to troll Indians anymore. I want to be a better man. Please explain.

[@sidharthamukherjee611]

@@Richard-d1y Your comment may be misconstrued as a troll as your "one of the best teams in asia" could be interpreted that Asian teams of Pakistan, Srilanka & Bangladesh are as good as the Indian Test team whereas it is apparent that none of the present test squads of Pakistan , Srilanka & Bangladesh are as good as that of team India.

[@jetpark3743]

Thanks... you Bangladeshi fan

[@crazythings1272]

The motherfuckers of England came to india last time and you know what happened??

[@suchith9327]

Over confident Rohit sharma will be solely responsible if we lose the series . NZ had never won series in india since cricket started .

[@aseemdewan3486]

How many tests India have won in New Zealand in last 25 years?

[@thrusta100]

1

[@Sid-e5y]

Timestamps please

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

Someone listening to me. Washington sundar added to squad. India need some counter attack and stability in tail. he will provide that. against 2nd new ball. So basically ashwin and jadeja has to take wickets. sundar will be support bowler. kuldeep did nothing anyways.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

It seems gautham gambhir asked for sundar. I know why it has to be done. Indian tail had no answer to that new tall nz. bowler. Some one need to dead bat him and arrest the fall of wickets. Ashwin jadeja could not hold one end. Axar patel cant do it as he is t20 player. I will drop kuldeep and jadeja and bring axar patel ashwin and sundar or sundar axar ashwin and kuldeep as 4 spinners. and get dhruv jurel for pant.

[@sumbdi]

On what basis should jadega be dropped??? He was our best bowler in that match he created opportunities but unfortunately didn't get the support from the fielders. On the basis of 1 match can't make wholesale changes to the squad.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

@@sumbdi he cant bat under pressure. He showed when he was csk captain. his batting is not gritty. He just make some runs here and there I play axar in place of jadeja He will be our main bowler. Sundar is support bowler and there will be competition between two to show who is better batsman. if Ashwin dont take wickets he should be dropped also. He did not bowl in 1st test in 2nd innings. Not confident and not want to be scapegoal

[@sumbdi]

@@nastybadger-tn4kl unfortunately due to social media and senseless conversation after just one loss our mentality is to change the team does it make any sense??? Here are jadeja performance Ravindra Jadeja the Collapse-Saver in Tests 63 vs AUS 2017 from 221/6 86* vs ENG 2018 from 160/6 58 vs WI 2019 from 207/7 57 vs AUS 2020 from 173/5 56 vs ENG 2021 from 145/5 50 vs NZ 2021 from 145/4 104 vs ENG 2022 from 98/5 70 vs AUS 2023 from 168/5 48 vs AUS 2023 from 71/4 112 vs Eng 2024 from 32/3 and he was the last recognised batsman 86 vs Bang from 144/6 and i have not included important wickets that he has taken. These are not my stats this is his performance whenever there is a top order collapse and some people are saying he can't bat under pressure, Do some research buddy before commenting on players. Yes axar should be given chances as a proper batsman in place of kl Rahul not in place of jadega Dude don't bring CSK or league cricket performance here that's purely for entertainment it has nothing to do with test cricket

[@Wishva737]

India losing the first match of the series and coming back to win the series is all too common pattern over the years.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

Not gona happen unless sundar in playing XI. india will get scared and bring him as a cushion in tail

[@physco4641]

​@@nastybadger-tn4kl weirdest take

[@VividhKothari-rd5ll]

Hmm, an Indian who says negative stuff comfortably and no baseless hyping and worshipping. Of course he is on KZbin, not a professional broadcaster.

[@tanaybhomia2784]

I think India should gov with Axar in place of Jadeja

[@Anlonnmusic]

WELL PLAYED NEW ZEALAND TEAM , BUT INDIA ALWAYS COMEBACK AFTER LOSING FIRST GAME, WE ALL KNOW

[@arunn2884]

India went for the win not draw... india cud have drawn

[@benhurley7366]

maybe but we will never know will we?

[@diyguru9677]

India would have lost either way. India's best hope for saving the test was the weather.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

BCCI must find few Tall batsman and anyone 15-20 tall batsman in india , they need to get them into acadamy and get their body strong for future. To counter SENA countries india need two tall batsman. We had VVS laxman and Yuvi before. We need two. if one of them left handed its double bonus. BCCI stop wasting mony on short players. grow some brain

[@arnabiitmphy]

Shubman Gill

[@gokuvegeta9500]

Lol Yuvraj never had a good record outside Asia in Tests. Height is needed more for a bowler than a batsman.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

@@gokuvegeta9500 Height needed for australia where ball bounce to hip. why did mcgrath got all wickets? he made ball raise to hip level from full length ball. Idea behind is that if you hit the ball where you have less power ball will glide of the bat.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

@@arnabiitmphy sure. need more. You cant rely on one.

[@gokuvegeta9500]

@@nastybadger-tn4kl Lol, then how is the best batsmen in Tendulkar, De Villers, Kohli, Root, Sangakara, Ponting, Lara, Smith etc all under 6 foot ?

[@mikeshort2662]

When India gets panicked, they prepare turners that is uneven and unpredictable...just like what Pakistan did last week. It's how it done since 2013. Too scared to prepare flat ,normal Ranji matches type pitch.

[@VenkataPraneethMareedu]

And SENA countries after losing a game always prepare fast, green and bouncy pitches........and then lose again........ India can win on almost any surface but all other countries cannot, so they cry like a Big Baby.

[@priyanshuverma2749]

Except Aus all other teams make extreme conditions or the favourable conditions for themselves nobody really give flatter with little bit of something as you are suggesting and also in the last England series it was good wickets but England still got humbled

[@mikeshort2662]

@@VenkataPraneethMareedu LOL Has india won a test series in SA,ENG,NZ in the last decade.

[@mikeshort2662]

@@priyanshuverma2749 LOL Did England prepare extreme conditions when India was 2-1 leading the series and then Bazball hammered India in the last one during the 2021 series in England.

[@VenkataPraneethMareedu]

@@mikeshort2662 India didn't win any series in those 3 countries past decade. But we atleast drew some of them. And in the LV Test Series against England in 2021, the first test would've been won by India if not for Rain....... Which Country Drew a Test Series against India in India? Please enlighten me......

[@junk_rig_sailor1698]

India are over-rated flat track bullies. Expect a rank turner in next two tests, as they know their batsmen are not good enough to deal with seam and swing of the NZ bowlers.

[@beniwal.mayank]

Mark my words india will gonna thrash new Zealand in the remaining 2 test 😂😂😂

[@arnabiitmphy]

No they won't

[@krishnasa8916]

not possible like they did against Bangladesh

[@sumbdi]

If rachin ravindra gets out early then don't think NZ have the batting to put up a good score

[@anuragkat66]

Very unfortunate that the new ball that they got as replacement started to seam so much, I hope India learn their mistakes and not throw away wickets again. great analysis from Jarrod once again.

[@Trajan2401]

No such thing as shock win when it comes to NZ sides

[@lukemckean6155]

Winning a test in Australia would be consider a shock win

[@Jojo_D_Northstar]

A first world country was losing to a developing country for 36 yrs

[@free-turin]

@@lukemckean6155yes it would, Australia has the psychological advantage always, Kiwis seem to capitulate in Australia time after time

[@kushagrasetu2683]

KL Rahul deserves the hate....He is the most useless cricketer we have seen in last 20 years

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

India will go default and bring in dusty spinning wickets to satisfy ashwin needs. He is a sand beach bowler. Cant bowl if its not spinning. he probably refuse to bowl early with only 100 runs to defend. he donot want to be scapegoat if conway went after him with only 100 runs to get. Its not pitch had spin for to use ashwin. Ashwin only playing for records now.

[@digitaljedi86]

What’s old mate wearing? Hahahaha Old mate, looks like my lesbian aunty who coaches basketball.

[@jasrajrathore7397]

India will lose the series this time

[@ganesankrishnaraj1948]

Ind will thrash nz in the next 2 tests and win the series.dirty mouths will be shut then.

[@Trajan2401]

Useless 5 million cricketers v 170k 😂.

[@riteshshirke5189]

@@Trajan2401 only 11 play in a game you idiot

[@atuldey3816]

RCB vs CSK same situation ball changed due dhoni six

[@robin-38-]

Kiwis will get pumped in next match

[@Trajan2401]

5 million cricketers v 170k 😂.

[@ashutoshkapoor7968]

​@@Trajan2401So what?? Will all million Indian cricketers come to play against NZ??

[@robin-38-]

@@Trajan2401 Trojan

[@wackyadz06]

Like they did in the first. 1 billion of you - and you're still rubbish hahahaha

[@robin-38-]

@@wackyadz06 New Zealanders are loved in India. Cry somewhere else