🎙️ Following On: Are India's World Test Championship Hopes In Doubt After Historic New Zealand Loss?

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@joshforde698
@joshforde698 Күн бұрын
West Indies winning in Brisbane, Sri Lanka winning at The Oval, New Zealand winning in Bengaluru, good year for upsets in test cricket.
@pr-Aj
@pr-Aj Күн бұрын
Add pakistan winning in pakistan to the list as well 🤣
@joshforde698
@joshforde698 Күн бұрын
@@pr-Aj Harsh, but true! 😂
@Ozukovsky
@Ozukovsky 2 күн бұрын
People in comment sections acting as if India lost the series 😂😂 1 match loss in years and everyone losing their minds. Whereas England keeps losing but everyone cant take the Bazball candy out off their eyes 😂😂
@k26295
@k26295 2 күн бұрын
The bigger you are, more people are entertained when you fall. That's how humans will behave.
@abhigyapranshu4791
@abhigyapranshu4791 2 күн бұрын
Thats mainly because its NZ. You got to realise that current NZ side has been struggling and were pumped in Sri Lanka. Likes of Aus and Eng winning is still understandable. There's a reason Nz never won a test since 1988 let alone a series
@Samudra121
@Samudra121 2 күн бұрын
​@@abhigyapranshu4791NZL got bulldozed because of spin friendly pitches in SL. Here they were provided with almost their home conditions and they did what they do best in such conditions. Simple.
@1239-p1k
@1239-p1k 2 күн бұрын
​@@abhigyapranshu4791England lost against hapless Pakistan and against helpless Srilanka at home
@nikitamohan3390
@nikitamohan3390 2 күн бұрын
1 more match loss to New Zealand and Rohit will become the cursed captain who spoiled India's nearly 12 year home win streak in test series, that too just before BGT.
@kvreacts5
@kvreacts5 2 күн бұрын
Even Rohit came in the press con and admitted that he screwed up! But this is Test and its the fight that matters. It wont happen again.
@krisjohnston5569
@krisjohnston5569 2 күн бұрын
In hindsight, yes, a mistake, I think the point is nobody saw it coming so it cant be held against him
@kvreacts5
@kvreacts5 2 күн бұрын
@@krisjohnston5569 ofcourse, I love my country and everyone in it. It was just a bad 5 days.*cricket wise*
@santugk
@santugk 2 күн бұрын
India made a poor decision choosing to bat first on a damp wicket, especially with rain forecasted for all five days of the test match. Despite this, they went ahead with three spinners. It's hard to believe that all eleven players could fail so dramatically on home turf. Scoring just 46 was embarrassing, and New Zealand fully deserved to win this match.
@pranav.m.warrier7407
@pranav.m.warrier7407 2 күн бұрын
Even latham wanted to bat first.. He told that outrightly.. Even if the decision was wrong, it doesn't mean your batters sulk in by getting angry at rohit and get all out at 46!!! 😂😂😂. We could've at least made 150-200 Which would've been a winning score. Yes, rohit made a mistake.. But 46 all out isn't his mistake
@Samudra121
@Samudra121 Күн бұрын
@@santugk Looks like they were overconfident after bulldozing Bangladesh😅
@Ajay.369v
@Ajay.369v 2 күн бұрын
Even on 4th day ,Pacers got some help frm the pitch. Huge mistake to drop Akash Deep,a quiker and skiddier bowler. Two spinners enough for this pitch. Also allowing Southee to hit sixes of the spinners was a mistake.
@suhridguha2560
@suhridguha2560 Күн бұрын
I love how we Indian's can't take a little banter but would give it to the other teams when we win.
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx 2 күн бұрын
The hopes are not down as long as India doesn’t lose more than 3 games in Australia. I back them to win next two matches
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
A rugby nation destroyed a cricket nation 🇳🇿.
@swarnavabanerjee4112
@swarnavabanerjee4112 2 күн бұрын
​@@Trajan2401 A rugby nation beat a hockey nation after 36 years.
@हालसमाचार
@हालसमाचार 2 күн бұрын
​@@swarnavabanerjee4112 NZ beat us in 2019 world Cup semi final, in the WTC final.... NZ are the best rugby team, are we nearly as good as them in hockey
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
​​@@swarnavabanerjee4112thats nothing special when you have 5 million cricket players compared to 170k also its your number 1 sport it would be lucky to make the top 5 sports in NZ.
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
​@swarnavabanerjee4112 You think that record is great its nothing compared to what records the All Blacks have.
@vinay5517
@vinay5517 2 күн бұрын
if our WTC is in doubt , all others wont even have hopes to give up .
@ethancoster1324
@ethancoster1324 2 күн бұрын
The loss was on the cards when they were 20 odd for 4 against Bangladesh.
@kingkohli1868
@kingkohli1868 Күн бұрын
Heads up 🇮🇳❤️
@debayanmajumder6630
@debayanmajumder6630 2 күн бұрын
William o rouke looks good prospect. Pune & mumbai pitch , weather would have no similarities witu bangalore for sure.
@abhigyapranshu4791
@abhigyapranshu4791 2 күн бұрын
Allowing Southee to get 60+ had more of an impact than the 1st innings. Had the lead been restricted to around 200 this would have been a proper game
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz Күн бұрын
what was chutiachandran ashwin doing? why did he let southee score so many?
@carlwells9504
@carlwells9504 Күн бұрын
I think the big thing with this game which as a NZ supporter warmed my cockles was our batters showing intent towards the spinners but not to the point of being reckless. This was a lot to do with Rachin but there were signs of this from Conway, Blundell and Latham in Sri Lanka. I’m really hoping Mitchell gets a score to get him back in the series. He is the missing piece to the batting puzzle.
@amitm2692
@amitm2692 2 күн бұрын
India vs NZ in tests since 2020 Total Played -6 NZ won-4 India -1 Draw-1 😅😅
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
Congrats on stat filtering like Daniel Alexander. You must be so proud of being a virgin.
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
I see you learnt to filter stats like Daniel Alexander.
@amitm2692
@amitm2692 2 күн бұрын
@@7ChaosBlack Don't need to filter stats...it is what it is Ind vs NZ in NZ 2020 NZ - 2 India -0 NZ vs india WTC final in Eng- NZ NZ vs India in india 2022 India -1 Draw -1 India vs NZ 2024 NZ -1 India -0 Maybe u need to comprehend better
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
@@amitm2692 Selecting a specific time period is quite literally stat filtering. You sure you're not Daniel Alexander? Here's the objective fact: 2 Test series wins for India in NZ 0 Test series wins for NZ in India 4 ICC trophies for India 2 ICC trophies for NZ NZ are objectively the worst WTC champions btw.
@amitm2692
@amitm2692 2 күн бұрын
@@7ChaosBlack Nah mate.... you're just a typical butthurt jingoist indian fan with low a IQ....not wasting my time ...btw a sporting country with population of mere 50 lacs where cricket is probably the 3rd most watched sport always gets the better off a nation where cricket is the only sport with a toxic fanbase.... I'd rather hype the former. ... breathe now
@Abhiraj-i4w
@Abhiraj-i4w Күн бұрын
That's the AURA ♾️😮‍💨 of ICT ❤️‍🩹🗿 that the whole world is talking about that loose that's even a match not even the whole series although it will be 2-1 for India.Mark my words... !!!
@jetpark3743
@jetpark3743 Күн бұрын
NZ is always smarter and one step ahead of India.
@rommels2108
@rommels2108 2 күн бұрын
That was freak weather conditions. It was more of a exception. Next two test will be won by India comfortabley.
@thrusta100
@thrusta100 Күн бұрын
Yeh, yeh, and Australia get tornado's, does happen! Just lay off those sour 🍇, leaving a bitter taste in ya mouth!..🙄😂
@rommels2108
@rommels2108 Күн бұрын
@@thrusta100 🤣🤣 no bro I mean it. I say the test England won where pope made a century was more of a genuine win. It was on a spinning track and Hartley bamboozled India. I just meant that I don't think new zealand are gonna get similar conditions in the next two matches. They are definitely gonna prepare rank turners.
@HVile
@HVile Күн бұрын
Everyone going on about NZ not winning in India for 36 years. India have only won a single test in NZ in the last 49 years and only five tests in total in NZ. India had a gap of 33 years between test victories in NZ - 1975-2008.
@KICK839
@KICK839 Күн бұрын
Maybe because we don't even play there.
@sandipanroy3106
@sandipanroy3106 2 күн бұрын
Not a word on Indian abysmal Bowling performance barring the 'they were unlucky'? C'mon now. Siraj needs to be dropped and sent to the 4th division if there is one. I have never seen a bowler being this 'non-threatening' as he is, while he's ready to bowl atleast 2 freebies on the pads. Basically, he's nothing more than an Umesh Yadav Lite.
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz Күн бұрын
Chutiachandran Ashwin was even more useless. 1/100 in the Test match. He was hiding in the 2nd innings, hoping to avoid conceding a 100 runs in the match. He should be dropped 1st, then Kohli, then Rahul....and much later Siraj.
@varunagg2023
@varunagg2023 Күн бұрын
You guys are the epitome of the reactionary Indian fans. Chill out
@sandipanroy3106
@sandipanroy3106 Күн бұрын
@@varunagg2023 not just this time around, I never rated Siraj. There's a reason I pointed him out of the rest. I have never rated him good. All his wickets are either batsmen trying to slog him or due to pressure being built from the other end (by Bumrah mostly). He's always lacked consistency, always. His best and only feature is the fact that he's injury free and always available unlike most our fast bowlers.
@prasantmca09
@prasantmca09 2 күн бұрын
Had KL Rahul added little more runs things would have been different!! Had Bumrah got little more support from the other end things would have been different!!! Yes we Indian always support our team in all weathers.but when they loose It hurts us!!
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
Tf you talking about. Rohit misread pitch and conditions. Next blame is the first innings. Can't fault the batsman in the 2nd innings though.
@aanchitgovind581
@aanchitgovind581 2 күн бұрын
And Jadeja and Ashwin also. They just needed to stay on the crease for 15 overs or so and leave everything outside their stumps. Don't know who told them to attack or not tell them to play sensibly but a proper analysis and accountability exercise needs to be done on such a game which could have been won. Rishabh and Sarfaraz brought us to such a good position and to lose from there says a lot about the abilities of those 3 players. We need to bring in Axar who has saved us in the last year or so in many situations as such. Also, akashdeep for Siraj please. Siraj's abilities are quite bare tbh.
@prasantmca09
@prasantmca09 2 күн бұрын
@@7ChaosBlack o bhai!! Bat first decision was the collective decision !! Coach and captain then vice captain and some senior players!! If you know cricket then talk intelligently!! Its a gentleman game!! Brother!
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
@@prasantmca09 A decision that Rohit admits was wrong.
@sandymar2853
@sandymar2853 2 күн бұрын
@@7ChaosBlackso? even NZ wanted to bat first. KL Rahul avg is less than Jadeja 😂
@shortnfo
@shortnfo 2 күн бұрын
Newzealand may even win this series since 2020 this team has caused problems against india and stats also says so. ..
@KICK839
@KICK839 Күн бұрын
Let see.
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz Күн бұрын
Match figures for the Indian bowlers: Bumrah 3/70. Jadeja 3/100. Kuldeep 3/125, Siraj 2/100....and the greatest Indian bowler of all time, R Ashwin : 1/100.
@fobudomh
@fobudomh 2 күн бұрын
It seems India cannot play seam and swing. It will go badly in Australia.
@dharamewada6922
@dharamewada6922 2 күн бұрын
India went totally wrong on a few things, one is keeping KL Rahul, second is even a lay man will think twice before deciding to bat first looking at the weather.. New Zealand played brilliantly.. and deserves to win and they dominated in every field...
@pranav.m.warrier7407
@pranav.m.warrier7407 2 күн бұрын
Even latham wanted to bat first.. He told that outrightly.. Even if the decision was wrong, it doesn't mean your batters sulk in by getting angry at rohit and get all out at 46!!! 😂😂😂. We could've at least made 150-200 Which would've been a winning score. Yes, rohit made a mistake.. But 46 all out isn't his mistake
@niravrasengupta7374
@niravrasengupta7374 2 күн бұрын
India lack fast bowlers. Most bowlers in India only bowl in the mid 140s and 135s.
@pranav.m.warrier7407
@pranav.m.warrier7407 2 күн бұрын
@@niravrasengupta7374 speed isn't the reason.. Even jassi isn't the fastest.. It's the quality of bowling which is poor.. Siraj,when on fire is the best bowler in the world regardless of his pace.. But he isn't consistent at all.. We need consistent bowlers
@David-jj9wc
@David-jj9wc 2 күн бұрын
Brilliant by New Zealand! Congrats!
@thrusta100
@thrusta100 Күн бұрын
Nz still would've chased 180, Ravindra/ Phillips partnership wouldve brought them home..
@KICK839
@KICK839 Күн бұрын
Remember when india lost a test against England ? Damn people acting as if ,,it is Pakistan losing to USA type of stuff. Bruh it's preety normal to think that sena country will at least win one or 2 . India records is jsut so so good that people can't handle it .
@jehanariyaratnam2874
@jehanariyaratnam2874 Күн бұрын
Here come the dustbowls
@KICK839
@KICK839 Күн бұрын
If india lost every test match from now than only it will be on doubt.
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 2 күн бұрын
In India we talk too much and do very little. It's very easy for an Indian team or Indian individual to get caught up in the hype and gain an inflated sense of ego. This is part of Indian culture. We need more stoic values, otherwise we will stay a third world country of medicine people
@prasantmca09
@prasantmca09 2 күн бұрын
India never reacts like you mentioned, yes we have some crazy population which is okay after all we are a most populous country!! You don't know these crazy people are good for creating check and balance on the players otherwise will get pool of non performing players!!
@nastybadger-tn4kl
@nastybadger-tn4kl Күн бұрын
Not many knows this. To Win you need character. India dont have characters that can win it. They dont have player in KL Rahul Sarfaraz and Pant. They can contribute , To win you need next level stubborness and belief. Carry the team on their shoulders. I dont think these three has it. You need washi to counter NZ young fast bowler. NZ showed world a blue print. You need young tall fast bowler with some energy and belief 2012 england team showed you need tall spinners with high revs. India struggled against monty panesar , swan was no slouch either in revs on the ball. But key here is that india have weak middle order. Jadeja is pretty much useless against good bowlers. Same with ashwin. India have super long tail. India need to bring Washington sundar. Immediately. I hope he is fit.
@KICK839
@KICK839 Күн бұрын
Pant ,sarfaraz ? Huh
@nastybadger-tn4kl
@nastybadger-tn4kl Күн бұрын
@@KICK839 Two year of ox. not good
@telugukings1227
@telugukings1227 2 күн бұрын
Hmmm....India is going to make world record in second and third test, 😊😊.
@adityakashyap493
@adityakashyap493 2 күн бұрын
Yeaa definetly by making next level rank turners
@telugukings1227
@telugukings1227 2 күн бұрын
@@adityakashyap493 But NZ played excellently, no doubt.
@viratyadav2213
@viratyadav2213 2 күн бұрын
@@adityakashyap493 lmao, an indian talking sh8t against his own team.. watch india smash them on a flat track in the next test
@DoorasharavaaArya
@DoorasharavaaArya 2 күн бұрын
To be honest it was the test match destined to be won by NZ, if not then how come conditions, scenarios, fortunes etc etc fall in the way of them only and that too in a single test. I guess, sometimes it's better to accept "God's will" and move on to the next assignment.
@njokic2176
@njokic2176 2 күн бұрын
This comment is seriously copium and sore loser vibes. You don’t win a test match by 8 wickets in basically 3 days through luck
@DoorasharavaaArya
@DoorasharavaaArya 2 күн бұрын
@@njokic2176 actually it's 4 days. Get your stats straight. 😉 And 8 wickets, 9 wickets, or even 10 wickets don't matter. The point is, NZ won the game at three crucial points in the whole test. 1) When they were able to bowl out India for 46 on an Indian soil that too using fast medium bowlers courtesy of Swing, Seam and Bounce. 😏 2) NZ were 240 odd for 7 against India in first innings yet they were able to score 400 odd runs of thanks primarily the partnership between Ravindran and Southee. Now it was more Southee than Ravindran who did the bulk of scoring. When was the last time Tim Southee scored something like this even in SENA countries, let alone Asia. 😉 3) The dismissal of Rohit Sharma, the dismissal of Virat Kohli and the Dismissal of Rishabh Pant in 2nd innings followed by a collapse which is otherwise highly unlikely for a team with calibre of India considering the home record India has. 4) Bumrah was hooping and swinging the red cherry like a boomerang even in the second innings. Missed the edge quite a time, yet didn't have been able to convert those into wickets. Not just Bumrah, even when Jadeja or Kuldeep were bowling they have created quite a half chances, only to fall short before the fielders. So in a nutshell, as what Jerrod Kimber said to beat India in a test match in India opposition has to bat better than India, bowl better than India i.e. to expect Indian batters to score fewer runs than them and also expect luck to be in their favour in terms of grabbing half a chance, missing edges, players like Southee to play a Blinder of an innings after god knows how many days later and many more. And these are the things which use to happen once in a blue moon and certainly not collectively. Add to that pitch assisted faster bowlers on day 1 for almost 30 overs. 😑 How often did you see this happening in India? 😏😏😏
@DoorasharavaaArya
@DoorasharavaaArya 2 күн бұрын
@@njokic2176 btw I didn't said anything about winning by luck, I simply said it was destiny. There is a subtle difference between two, and as an English speaker I can expect you to figure the difference. 😉
@njokic2176
@njokic2176 2 күн бұрын
@@DoorasharavaaArya you guys are so brainwashed that you can’t accept defeat and say you played poorly. Rohit’s captaincy and catching was poor which cost India and allowed southee to score those runs, you can’t blame that on luck!
@njokic2176
@njokic2176 2 күн бұрын
@@DoorasharavaaArya 248 overs were bowled during the test match, so much less than 4 days sweetie
@kvreacts5
@kvreacts5 2 күн бұрын
YES, I think that is pretty obvious!
@prateekgrover6661
@prateekgrover6661 2 күн бұрын
For no damm reason , I wanna say Thala for a reason
@gokuvegeta9500
@gokuvegeta9500 2 күн бұрын
That overrated player has 0 Test centuries outside Asia
@ethancoster1324
@ethancoster1324 2 күн бұрын
Are NZ back?!
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
A rugby nation destroyed a cricket nation 5 million cricket players v 170k 🇳🇿
@swarnavabanerjee4112
@swarnavabanerjee4112 2 күн бұрын
A rugby nation beating a hockey nation after 36 years 😂😂😂
@swarnavabanerjee4112
@swarnavabanerjee4112 2 күн бұрын
A rugby nation beat a hockey nation after 36 years😂
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
​​@@swarnavabanerjee4112thats nothing special when you have 5 million players compared to 170k 😂.
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
​​@@swarnavabanerjee4112and its your number 1 sport it would be lucky to make the top 5 sports in NZ.
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 2 күн бұрын
​​@@swarnavabanerjee41125 million v 170k and got destroyed 😂.
@weird_philosopher
@weird_philosopher 2 күн бұрын
I can see a lot of ill!ter@te NZ bots in the comments section... 😂😂😂
@prasantmca09
@prasantmca09 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 so its the changed ball!! O come on man!!😂😂 Yes we support our team but we aren't so dumb like this!!! Yes Nz played better cricket than our team so we accept our loss gracefully!! Stop your nonsense!!
@Richard-d1y
@Richard-d1y 2 күн бұрын
England 823. India 46. England literally 18 times better than India.
@7ChaosBlack
@7ChaosBlack 2 күн бұрын
823 divided by 46 does not equal 18. I knew you'd get the math wrong.
@waitwhat7369
@waitwhat7369 2 күн бұрын
But England got thrashed by india 4-1
@shivampandey5978
@shivampandey5978 2 күн бұрын
I have seen england greatness in india.. India have better players in bench than England's 11
@abhinashkumar3161
@abhinashkumar3161 2 күн бұрын
Hmm what mental gymnastic.
@Jojo_D_Northstar
@Jojo_D_Northstar 2 күн бұрын
And when pak prepared a spin pitch your trash team got exposed. Whereas India fights better in AUS and Eng these days.
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz
@Evil_Clown-eh6jz Күн бұрын
India made the mistake of playing R Ashwin, without making the pitch a 'Snake-pit'. Ashwin is even more ordinary than a club bowler when the pitch is not a snake-pit. Thats why they don't bother playing him overseas.
@nareshchandra5159
@nareshchandra5159 2 күн бұрын
You guys are not former cricketer and did not play any sort of cricket but analysis cricket and review.Why Why Please stop review about Indian cricket and team. You guys hate india. You guys are happy when India lose a match.This matches are non of your business.whether India lose or win.Please stop this non sense podcast.
@YaswanthR-ur2zt
@YaswanthR-ur2zt 2 күн бұрын
The right guy he is a former cricketer
@raheelakhtar7
@raheelakhtar7 2 күн бұрын
Hahahahahahaha. That’s Craig McMillan who was part of the NZ team that beat India in Champions Trophy 🏆 final 2000.
@princekumar03
@princekumar03 2 күн бұрын
Why are we gatekeeping Indian Cricket?? Why does it matter if they like Indian cricket?? Stop gatekeeping, if you like then watch it else watch something else. No one is forcing you to watch it.
@lightforce4604
@lightforce4604 2 күн бұрын
Jarrod Kimber is one of the best analyst in the sport. Go cry somewhere else if you're so salty lol.
@nareshchandra5159
@nareshchandra5159 2 күн бұрын
@@princekumar03 ok sir 👍
@robin-38-
@robin-38- 2 күн бұрын
Not the first time India lost a test match
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