Scottish Football's Biggest Issue - Is junior football dying?

Auchinleck Talbot and Glenafton Athletic are two Scottish Clubs who compete in the regional junior football leagues. The 6th tier of Scottish football.
They have great histories and have both won the Scottish Junior Cup on a number of occasions, however their futures are at risk.
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[@FootyAdventures]

What are your thoughts on this issue?

[@FootyAdventures]

@Ciello Dominic Definitely

[@buysellfootballshirts]

@The Man here here, I definitely think the bigger clubs should be helping out the smaller clubs just now. Big wages should be getting cut for bigger players and maybe even staff members.

[@Andy_038]

I’m from tayport and we’ve got a junior team here and it’s just sad to not be allowed in cause it was always cheap to get in and usually gave you a good game. It’s just sad not being able to go just now

[@FootyAdventures]

@The Man Spot on mate! Really interesting to get your opinion especially as you used to play at these clubs. Which country do you play in now out of interest?

[@colinmacgregor8718]

Pretty poor about the junior leagues.

[@benvansittart2325]

That was a brilliant video sir...very insightful. I appauld your passion as well. I live in SE England but this is an important issuse to world of football. Lower league clubs in England and Scotland should receive money from government but the amount of money at the top levels in football is astronomical so they should be helping out as well (in my opinion). Its good to see someone making these pionts on KZbin 👍👍👍

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks Ben! Totally agree. It's not the big club's fault any of this is happening, I just find it weird how they can let small clubs completely pull out of leagues yet spend hundreds of millions. Seems unjust!

[@jamesaitchison9478]

Your channel content is fantastic covering the biggest clubs right down to community supported clubs and is a breath of fresh air. Covering many different subjects from league, club and stadium histories to championing Junior football and locally financed clubs. A real football fan's channel 👍

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers James, really glad you think so!

[@jamesaitchison9478]

@@FootyAdventures I support Rangers FC, they are my passion and i have been a fan since i was a young boy. Rangers have been through so many hard times in recent history like having to work our way up through the lower SPFL League Divisions but ultimately emerging as Division Champions in all lower Leagues (2,1 & the Championship) on our journey back to the Premiership brought about a bigger respect for teams in those lower Divisions. That journey through the Leagues was made eventful due to the challenge of the other teams, with some very good games of football along the way. This video emphasising how important lower League football such as at Junior level is to the comunities and for grass roots development in our game. Great video 👍

[@FootyAdventures]

@@jamesaitchison9478 Thanks for that. Yeah I think it's so important for the benefit of the game in general!

[@callumwares3575]

Highly respect you covering these areas of our game. Thank you for the great content in such a horrible time. Keep up the good work👍🏻

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks Callum. Really appreciate that!

[@grdn2607]

I’m a Killie fan and a few years back I had the pleasure of watching this derby at Rugby Park in the junior cup final. There’s really something special about the village rivalry that runs so deep with the community. As a neutral it was a brilliant game with one of the best atmospheres I’ve seen in my own home ground in a while (it was pre Steve Clarke)

[@FootyAdventures]

Oh cool, I'd love to see some games at this level!

[@SharpDiv]

Very informative video highlighting an important message 👏🏻

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers mate!

[@18pablo88]

Mate as a English man, you do a good job of promoting our game. Well done, keep up the good work

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks, I'll try!

[@peterkerr3403]

Cracking video mate. I’ve spent years following senior football in Scotland but for the last 6-7 years I’ve been seriously following another Junior giant that is Irvine Meadow. The sense of community these clubs bring to their local areas should never be trivialized or taken for granted. It saddens me when I see the amount of money thrown around at elite level when junior clubs pretty much run from week to week or month to month. This is nobody’s fault simply the times we live in. But I want to tank you for bringing it to the attention of a wider audience. Also if you’re anywhere near Ayrshire again around August time you shoukd take in the local Irvine derby. Irvine Meadow (Medda) v Irvine Victoria (the Toria). Over the years we’ve had dropped ball gate. Players n fans arguing. Pitch invasions. The works.

[@andycraig75]

Just been pointed to you channel and loving it so far. So glad to see you take in the juniors and enjoy it so much. If you want to watch a good local rivalry try and get to a Beith juniors vs Kilbirnie ladeside match. Its one of the few games at this level that has to be segregated as the rivalry is so intense

[@jamieleitch1029]

great video. it's fantastic see someone take an interest in not just the top leagues in scotland but the lower and non leagues as well. great seeing you at my local club auchinleck talbot. in my opinion none of these small clubs will disappear because they are community clubs and the communities they represent will not let them fade away. also its cumnorck v talbot that is the big rivalry and would highly recommend you going to one they can be eye opening

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks very much Jamie glad you enjoyed. I wanna shine a light on these issues!

[@davidhey7017]

I’ve watched a few of your videos recently. You are doing a great job. Keep it up 👍

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Brilliant video. A video that notes the VALUE of clubs at this level. I’ve used BBC Alba to see junior cup finals and really impressed with this level of football. I love the fact that it is all about love of the game and COMMUNITY!

[@FootyAdventures]

Absolutely! This level deserves to be playing as much as the Old Firm!

[@ryanoconnor5612]

Love the passion! Absolutely ridiculous that no-one can watch football in those stadiums.

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers son!

[@michaelconway4928]

Found this channel last week. As a league of Ireland fan and a fan of junior football in Ireland aswell I love it. If you ever want to do a video on Irish football when all this pandemic stuff is over I'd love to show you around.

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice one thanks mate!!

[@weealpha64]

Great video young man and the bit about older generations bringing kids to the games hit a note as my dad took me to all the junior grounds his dad took him to

[@FootyAdventures]

Great to know. Really sad to be seeing teams like this struggle.

[@jack_bagpipes]

Another big rivalry is Rob Roy v Kilsyth, always use to attract big crowds when they play in cup games and the league, as the towns are only a few miles apart

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice I'll check that out!

[@ModernVideoGamers]

I am a massive Pollok fan and go to every game pollok on average is the biggest supported club in junior football and the second most successful (behind auchinlech Talbot) but the video was very informative and good

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice yeah I defo need to visit Pollock! Glad you enjoyed this video. Thanks for watching!

[@ModernVideoGamers]

@@FootyAdventures no probs and in case you didn’t know all the clubs have now moved out of junior football and now play in the new west of Scotland league which is 6 under the highland n lowland leagues

[@DarrenPhillthomson]

You’re channel is getting better & better keep up the good work

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers Dazza!

[@DarrenPhillthomson]

@@FootyAdventures no problem

[@twistedclues3529]

Just discovered this channel absolutely top! Made me think about my local team ( Threave Rovers) football is nothing without the fans🍀🤘

[@RossStevenson5]

Bloody hell😯 i had no idea this happened to auchinleck. This most successful junior Scottish team. Im from a town called bo'ness and in 2013 bo'ness played auchenleck and the amount of fans they bought That day was incredible and its not the shortest journey for an away day. That game was probably the best game I've been to for a junior game. Thank god bo'ness won. Even look up the game on KZbin you can see the amount of fans there and the atmosphere it brought.

[@RossStevenson5]

And now my team bo'ness are 2nd in the lowland league 1 tier away from league 2

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks for watching I'll definitely check that out!

[@bobsteele55]

Thanks very much for this Sam. Very important points you made there. I'll share this vid on twitter. Although Kello Rovers are my local junior team, I've always supported Auchinleck Talbot as well, since that's where my Mum's side of the family originate. (your pronounciation of "Auchinleck" got better as the video went on btw). It's absolutely tragic what's going on in Junior football. In addition to Talbot and Glens withdrawing, Cumnock Juniors and a number of other sides have done the same thing. I just hope against hope they can survive until next season, when hopefully crowds will be allowed again. Imo, the problem lies squarely with the Scottish footballing authorities, which are blatantly corrupt and so focused on benefiting not only the top tier, but a single team in the top tier, that they seem prepared to let grass roots football in Scotland be destroyed. Without the grass roots Scottish football will suffer immeasurably, and I hope and pray some way can be found for clubs such as these all around Scotland to continue.

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks for sharing I really appreciate it. Thanks again for supporting the channel as ever and watching my vids. I'm glad you agree with the points I raised. Let's hope something is done to save football!

[@frednerk3477]

Good comments, Bob. In my opinion, the splitting of the senior Scottish Leagues from 2 into 4 smaller (in size) leagues has been a disaster for Scottish football. For the lower clubs, a visit from the richer clubs may have led to the occasional thumping but provided them with bigger gates and more much-needed funds. It also helped to improve the standards of the lower clubs with regularly meeting good opposition. That has been taken away and Scottish football has declined from a "major" nation to becoming "very minor". However I would suggest that the whole SPFL setup is not just beneficial to one club but two. Additionally, many of the strong Scottish Junior clubs, outside the SFA, were in the coal mining villages and, with the closure of the mines, their support has declined greatly, severely limiting the vast "feeder" base for the SFA clubs.

[@bobsteele55]

@@frednerk3477 - Think your spot on about the situation until 2012 mate. Since then though another big factor has been diminishing interest in the Scottish game from outside Scotland and the resulting shortage of sponsorship and money in the Scottish game. Also since 2012 it seems to me that the SPFL and SFA's focus has been one club and one club alone, since it was clear they were the dominant force in Scottish football. Now that the league has become competitive again over the past couple of seasons (in that more than one team is capable of winning it now), that mindset of the Scottish football authorities unfortunately continues to persist imo, as evidenced by January's Dubai debacle, where the team responsible got little or no punishment, but all the lower tiers of Scottish football were shut down.

[@douglasnewlands47]

We are looking at a new, expanded pyramid system this season. Aside from current health and safety concerns, because of the new structure, clubs are now faced with an expensive, often unaffordable, increase in travel costs, not to mention the unavailability of part time players who have work commitments for certain fixtures. The sensible thing to do is to pause activity and wait until the current state of affairs passes. Trust me, nothing, but nothing, will ever kill the commitment and passion of the people who are the essence of junior football in Scotland and particularly, here in Ayrshire. Thank you for caring and taking the time to make this video.

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks for watching and leaving this comment. Hopefully junior footy bounces back soon!

[@bencorson608]

Also go to Lugar Boswell Thistle In a small village just a mile away from Cumnock

[@FootyAdventures]

Will do eventually mate!

[@a90arabs]

The East Region of junior football is supposed to start on the 21st November, at the current stage they will not be able access any changing or showering facilities. travelling to venues around the Tayside region in wet cold strips is putting the players and coaching staff at risk.

[@FootyAdventures]

Aye that's certainly a tough ask for the players. Can't see it going ahead if that's the case.

[@snipedotgenius]

Love your channel mate brilliant content ..

[@FootyAdventures]

Much appreciated!

[@Alexander..........]

@Footy Adventures, Loving your videos m8, You have a real passion for scottish football

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks! Glad you think so!

[@burkehare01]

I am Killie fan and even though we are the senior club in Ayrshire. The Talbot are legendary! They get bigger crowds than some championship sides

[@Kyu1985]

I really like yer channel, u study yer stuff and u come across a likeable guy and well done for remembering DUFC are tangerine and not orange!🤣 Keep up the good work! I can see this channel getting alot of new subs!👍

[@FootyAdventures]

That's so cool thanks a lot! Haha thanks for noticing the Dundee United joke. I got rinsed for calling them the O word in my Dundee vid 😂

[@Chateaulait]

Terrific video yet again, i didn't realise the juniors were in such a bad way, sad.

[@FootyAdventures]

Thank you!

[@_MD80]

Brilliant video. Good job, mate

[@FootyAdventures]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@burkehare01]

I am Killie fan just up the road from those two junior sides. They have been feeder teams for killie in the past. Would be sad to see them both go. They get bigger crowds than some of the teams in the professional league

[@tonyh7994]

Great video but just a small correction. The Junior leagues aren't on any tier as they are a separate system to senior football. You can't get promoted from the junior leagues to the Premiership. Junior football sits below all 8 levels of senior football in theory, but in reality it is actually closer to the 3rd or 4th tier of Scottish football in terms of the size of the clubs and quality of football.

[@FootyAdventures]

Ah fair enough. I definitely good to know! Always hard finding the best information online sometimes

[@tonyh7994]

@@FootyAdventures Yeah most of the junior clubs are moving into the senior league pyramid anyway or have already, so you'll be right in a few years time. Junior football will be finished but ultimately the clubs will still keep their identity.

[@finfogel.382]

Awe mate if you had let us know you were coming we could have arranged a guided tour of the stadium if you decide to come back to Auchinleck give us a shout and we will get you in for a better video.

[@FootyAdventures]

I can come back next week if that's something you can arrange? I'd love to see inside and learn more about how the club is coping mid pandemic!

[@seeyouinhellyeowie3865]

There were 40 thousand fans at an American College football game 2 weeks ago, crazy we can't get couple hundred to start with

[@bothybill]

Your videos are great but the big rivals are Auchinleck Talbot and cumnock juniors not glenafton still a good video though keep up the good work 👍

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks for the info! Cheers!

[@alanfox691]

@@FootyAdventures This is true that's a major , major rivalry at Junior Level in Scotland.

[@gruppenfuhrer73]

the christchurch v dulwich hamlet that was on tv last week had a good had a crowd and almost all of them had no masks on

[@alistairkelton645]

Clydebank has a good story how they bounced back .

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks again for the comment mate

[@roosta41]

i can back this! mon the bankies

[@Duggy1872]

Bankie born and bread here

[@kirkdavidson7729]

Thanks for sticking up for small town clubs. Good pronunciation 🤔

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers mate! And haha working on the pronounciations!

[@XMehun]

You have to think about the clubs in the same league as this club and think hey might have smaller grounds and terraces so can't have a socially distanced crowd which would make it abit unfair if some were allowed and some weren't.

[@PeasyFC]

Well done on this video and following up the suggestion. What is happening to the juniors this year is a joke. Keep up the good work Love the pronunciation you were close 👍🏻

[@FootyAdventures]

Haha the pronunciations are getting harder each week! Yeah it's sad to see this level of football in this state but doesn't seem like the authorities do much to help

[@PeasyFC]

@@FootyAdventures My mate is a senior official at Winton Rovers and they cannot afford to open without fans. Life blood of the community in a lot of small towns and Villages lost for no good reason. Your videos are excellent nice seeing a fresh unbiased view point

[@GenialHarryGrout]

The West of Scotland league is a new competition with 2020/21 being it's first season. Due to the current situation, clubs were given the opportunity to withdraw from the league for 2020/21 without penalties, so they can return next season and rejoin at the same level.

[@FootyAdventures]

Good to know, thanks!

[@richardrobertson4318]

Been twice to see bonnyrigg rose it's a great day out

[@richardrobertson4318]

It's teams like these where you're love of the game begins my first experience was at a junior game arniston rangers and I've now been to thousands of games

[@roypaton5573]

the Talbot and Cumnock Are an ayrshire derby are like the old firm in the scottish premier

[@feel_et8643]

nice how I wake up and got a sick video waiting

[@FootyAdventures]

Yes! Cheers mate!

[@rickypalmer1167]

Bro only reason we are particular about tangerine terminology is because rangers are orange men and do orange walks ect

[@martinoxborrow5527]

I used to live in camelon falkirk and was close to camelon juniors team

[@patricialockhart2135]

Excellent points here. Those clubs are an integral part of football. It's where many players start, and end their careers. It's where stars of the future are found. They nake football accessible for many people. There are players who just want to play football, may be very become stars but they can shine at this level and have the opertunity to play every week. It would be a tragedy to lose those clubs but I beleive woukd be really damaging to the wider game. We want to see home grown talent. Clubs are buying players from around the world yet here we we see where the home grown talent starts, vital to our international game.

[@Hibbat-Schmibbat]

Good video mate, I feel really sorry for these teams, what is the issue with fans coming socially distanced all of the grounds are all standing and are outside what the hell, the bigger clubs should help out these teams like Man City should help out teams like bury for example and Celtic and Rangers can help out the smaller clubs like these guys, it's tradition and part of the community old fashioned grass roots football like you say kids go with their dads and grandads pie and chips from the local van there and the community gets involved that's what I loved about watching Berwick Rangers even though I am a Leicester City fan but I enjoy my grass roots football too I often follow the spfl

[@jimbrown2044]

Your asking important questions,the lowland league has started in the past couple of weeks and good on them for giving it a go but the highland league is unhappy with no fans being allowed and have put back starting to at least Nov 28th playing just a 16 game season,as you say anything below that .....will it start again?

[@FootyAdventures]

So sad how the entire leagues are being paused, pushed back, etc. Nothing being done by the authorities!

[@delholmes614]

Maryhill juniors great stadium and could be a great team

[@darrenrobinson4632]

Brilliant video mate, I’m a rangers fan and enjoy all your vids. My local team in Stirling Albion, will you be heading there for a video anytime soon?

[@FootyAdventures]

Thank you! Good win for you yesterday, you must be buzzing. Yeah I'll make a Stirling video soon for sure :)

[@darrenrobinson4632]

@@FootyAdventures if you ever get the chance after covid has died down, I would suggest following both sides of the old firm on a European away trip! Rivalries aside, not too many better supported clubs when abroad! And would make a good video I’m sure 😀

[@stuartmcl7609]

Is it not Auchenleck v Cumnock not the bigger game? I remember when I was younger it was pretty massive. I used to Follow Aurthelie years ago but haven’t been a long time due to work and kids!

[@ablair37]

The Scottish Jr Cup final is on TV.. bbc alba usually at rugby park

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice! It'll be a long time until we see that!

[@CallumBlyth]

Junior football was/ still is separate from the spfl pyramid. It’s only in the last few years they’ve started merging into the spfl pyramid. West of Scotland league is a recent addition made up of all the teams from the west juniors. A lot of teams from the east, especially in fife, have been joining the east of Scotland league. Whilst it’s a shame to lose such a unique system, I think for the future of these clubs and non league in Scotland there needs to be a more unified pyramid.

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice thanks for letting me know. I hope these clubs can bounce back soon!

[@shantydoctor]

staunch, great insights

[@FootyAdventures]

Thank you!

[@Jamie-jz4dh]

Although Glenafton are also close. You would’ve driven past Cumnock Juniors who are Auchinlecks main rivals.

[@FootyAdventures]

I'll have to see them next time!

[@pauldavis983]

Brilliant ... keep up the good work, looking forward to your visit to Kirkcaldy to see the mighty San Starko. Please please brush up on your pronunciation of Kirkcaldy before going on camera 😂😂

[@scotthastie2916]

Ur so educated about the game ur a legendary

[@FootyAdventures]

Thanks Scott! Really appreciate that

[@kylewhite6207]

East Kilbride fc K park . It’s a must visit

[@FootyAdventures]

I'll check it out!

[@arejaycee5484]

Great video very informative

[@FootyAdventures]

Glad you think so! Thanks!

[@arejaycee5484]

@@FootyAdventures I'm in Fife and grew up with Junior Football Dundonald Bluebell were the local club Good to see they're doing ok in a difficult time

[@williamwallacedebruce9221]

Missed the famous Kirkintilloch Rob Roy. First televised cup final. Mon the Rabs

[@FootyAdventures]

I'll add them to the list!

[@danieltekkerz9443]

Great video mate 🔥

[@FootyAdventures]

Legend! Thanks mate!

[@FergiesFootballFocus]

Great video mate

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers mate!

[@onlyfourhomenations]

Another ground you have went to keep all ground open and games on

[@rodneyboulton6410]

Two years on, it just goes to show how ridiculous this was

[@Danpuffpuff65]

My favourite Scottish Junior Grounds I’ve been to are Kilsyth Rangers and Camelon Juniors

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice! Hope to go there soon!

[@russellearl767]

Couldn't agree more need grassroots football as much as the top tiers..I keep an eye out for Clydebank results due to them going through similar injustice as my own club Wimbledon

[@gemmairvine3673]

👏👏 Brilliant Video!

[@FootyAdventures]

Ta guvnor!

[@footballschool3258]

I have recently been allowed to enter my junior football team as I have been allowed to film the games but i also watch as well. So I can get into

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice, we just need fans back next!

[@footballschool3258]

@@FootyAdventures ye. I’m not the only one as there are comitee members as well. But everyone is social distancing and we get our temperature taken before we are allowed to enter

[@FootyAdventures]

@@footballschool3258 Yeah fair enough, that's what they'll have to do at a larger scale for the fans

[@footballschool3258]

@@FootyAdventures ye but they are really well organised. I think my team wrote to the mps to get fans back in

[@FootyAdventures]

@@footballschool3258 What's your team called mate?

[@TacticalManager]

Came-back to finish the video. I think every country is slowly destroying their Jr leagues.

[@FootyAdventures]

What's the situation like over in the states?

[@georgetompkins7290]

Let the fans into junior league football so the club can make some money during these hard times.

[@FootyAdventures]

Absolutely!

[@TacticalManager]

Project big picture would have a similar effect on English football

[@FootyAdventures]

Yeah I'm not sure if that's the way to go about it though

[@colhamilton9682]

Watched Serie A highlights yesterday...with fans socially distancing. Watched Nadal v Djokovic in French Open Final last weekend...with fans socially distancing. It beggars belief they can't do the same here. I know the Scottish Government want to look no nonsense, but there surely comes a point where common sense has to prevail.

[@FootyAdventures]

AGREED!

[@K._308]

The reason financial packages haven't been delivered because the Scottish fa rejected the proposal of a further payback so the deal that was read out was put on stall smaller clubs are scraping the barrel for money searching for investments

[@gamerggmason8964]

hi plz come to one of muirkirk junior games we have a great time the we kids play drums and everthing

[@iamcontent1686]

I can't wait for the St Johnston stadium tour #stJohnson

[@FootyAdventures]

🔜

[@GCAbleism158]

I was reading about the Scottish football alliance, and that statement seems familiar and not in a good way.

[@FootyAdventures]

How do you mean?

[@cameronmcbain5282]

Kirkintilloch robRoy mate in kirky should check them out

[@graemesmith610]

Very hard to disagree with you relating to allowing fans in to parks and stadiums. The fact that some clubs are having to withdraw is disgusting and it is the bottom priority of the Scottish Government. The money still hasn’t been pledged and the Scottish FA is not doing enough to press the government on this matter. Everyone knows not all fans can’t come back but allowing 10-25% of fans is not unrealistic and will allow the clubs who rely on the gate money some income

[@FootyAdventures]

Spot on. I don't know why they're just doing nothing!

[@shaynelowther8893]

How about setting up a go fund me page ? i am sure folk will chip in even if its a couple of quid. My heart i am a Nottingham Forest fan but i have been to watch many of our local teams play my non league Notts County are one and the other is Basford United although Mansfield Town and Lincoln City are league teams i do go and support them .

[@gsf67]

Grass roots football must survive!

[@peasie3946]

Juniors football is ALREADY dead in the West of Scotland. All the clubs in the former West Region of the Scottish Juniors decided to leave en-masse to form a West of Scotland Senior League. Now they are part of the Pyramid. As the West Region was by far the strongest region (especially after most of the larger clubs in the East Region left to join the Seniors) the there is little left of the Junior grade in terms of strength of teams. The two clubs you mentioned were part of only five clubs that withdrew from the 20 club WoSFL Premiership. The other 15 negotiated with players who were keen to continue playing for reduced money. Only time will tell which clubs made the correct decision. Personally I think they made the correct decision in withdrawing for this season. My own club, Largs Thistle (who you mentioned lost to Talbot in the Scottish Junior Cup final) decided to continue. To further complicate matters, ATFC while no longer a Junior club are still allowed to compete in the Scottish Junior Cup. They are actually in the quarter final of the 2019-20 competition which may still be played to completion later this season.

[@tonyh7994]

Not as big a gap between the East and West as there used to be. Still would expect Clydebank to win the playoff but it won't be easy.

[@peasie3946]

@@tonyh7994 There were only one or two clubs from the East that did well. You see that by the East/West split by the time the quarter finals of the Scottish came along. Maybe Clydebank (or whoever wins the League, subject to having a Licence) would win a play-off. But I think that's probably more down to the fact that those stronger East teams have already left the East League for the Lowland League.......and are also occupying the higher stages of that. I can see former Juniors from West and East going through the Lowland League and taking their place in League Two. The Lowland League will eventually be mostly former Junior clubs

[@tonyh7994]

@@peasie3946 In 10 years the Lowland League will be like the National junior super league that used to be talked about minus the Northern teams but add in a few ex SPFL clubs. I think the likes of Pollok, Talbot and Clydebank are all capable of reaching League One. I'm more interested in seeing how the rest of the west Premier and top East clubs get on. I don't think there is much between them and League Two clubs tbh. Hopefully a few west clubs are looking at getting licenses soon and we can see them in the Scottish Cup.

[@invernessfan3017]

Scottish football has a rich history.

[@williamfrew3949]

See what I would do is have the Scottish Premiership going from 12 teams to 18 teams and have the Scottish championship going from 10 teams to 24 do it like down in England so means the highland league can be league one and the lowland league can be league two and mean the junior league can be league three I think that’s would be more better

[@FootyAdventures]

Yeah not a bad idea to be fair

[@williamfrew3949]

Plus we have the Scottish cup and league cup for all the clubs plus u have like the challenge cup for the lower leagues so I would bring a few months cups like have the teams in the south playing till them get to the final and do the same with the west and east and north something like the Johnstone’s cup down in English and bring a charity shield to Scotland too

[@FootyAdventures]

@@williamfrew3949 all good ideas!

[@williamfrew3949]

Be good if the spl and sfa listened to idea and try them out cause and if it works out than them can help clubs build up there stadiums and get queen park to build there own stadium cause Hampden should only be used for Scotland and cup semi finals and finals

[@alanfox691]

@@williamfrew3949 The S.F.A now have full ownership of Queens Park & in return The S.F.A arr paying for a significant upgrade to Lesser Hampden Park next door so after this current season Queens Park will play all there games at Lesser Hampden Park next door as Hampden Park it's self is to get a major revamp that is the plan. Queens Park have went from The only amateur club in The Scottish football league to semi Pro from this season onwards.

[@ronangray1250]

I think there should be allowed at least 100 fans in per game atm

[@FootyAdventures]

Same. Could surely be done safely.

[@johnmcgarrell8897]

Should check out jimmy mcgrory Park home of St rochs fc the fans have built toilets terracings for home and away fans and we have all purchased our season books with no sign of return we have one of the biggest supports in the Scottish junior or now West of Scotland league

[@mikepar2]

The bigger Junior clubs decided to join a new pyramid system to progress towards hopefully getting into the senior Scottish leagues by setting up the West of Scotland Leagues which is 2 Leagues below League 2. In England you have TV money going down all the way to the National League possibly even the National League North and South you don't have the same in Scotland. It is the Scottish Government that controls the regulations in Scotland. All those big Engkish clubs could have saved Bury, they didn't!

[@DavidUKesb]

The shining light of Scottish non-League football is surely Wick Academy FC.

[@TheBod2010]

Pronounce "Auchinleck" as Och (as in "loch") -in-LECK (with a slight stress on the final syllable). Junior football is not really a tier - the SJFA is largely autonomous although affiliated to the SFA. Auchinleck versus Cumnock is the really bitter rivalry.

[@FootyAdventures]

Ah cool thanks for the tips!

[@rossmiller5929]

Arthulie vs pollock was always a pretty bitter rivalry aswell when I was a kid. I'm from barrhead and used to go to Arthulie games with my grandfather before I started going to ibrox. It's pretty sad this is happening. I also remember going to auchinleck for a Junior cup game.

[@jackadair6075]

All the teams in the West SJFA have left the system to set up the West of Scotland Football League which is tier six of the SFA Pyramid.

[@cal-efc8062]

Spot on lad!

[@FootyAdventures]

Cheers!!

[@ryanhowes6375]

Linlithgow rose have u heard of them?

[@FootyAdventures]

Yes! I'm planning to get there eventually!

[@Andy-ko5eu]

There is no reason why fans (especially at lower levels) can't go back to games like the non league games in England, it is just the Scottish governments way of shafting football fans once again......while they may be working hard at keeping other businesses afloat, thwy are completely ignoring football as usual, they dont even try and hide it anymore

[@FootyAdventures]

It's such a shame!

[@benfriels6736]

Come to Beith juniors get a video made ⚫️⚪️

[@FootyAdventures]

Will do!

[@benfriels6736]

Love the content keep it up lad😎

[@FootyAdventures]

@@benfriels6736 🎬🔜😎

[@laurencemaccarthaigh1130]

Just to say the new tier 6 isn't junior anymore

[@FootyAdventures]

Ah nice ok, cheers for the heads up!

[@laurencemaccarthaigh1130]

@@FootyAdventures no bother, it does involve mostly now former junior teams and some have kept the junior like my local club Beith Juniors, where we kept it due to our history and us being the only real big former junior team that stayed in the league

[@FootyAdventures]

@@laurencemaccarthaigh1130 Ah fair enough. Always looking to learn about these things!

[@lee2217]

You are welcome to meadow park anytime home of Irvine meadow Come and see our refurbished stand Our games again Irvine Victoria,Kilwinning Rangers and auchinleck Talbot are very competitive

[@FootyAdventures]

Nice, sounds good. Are they playing this season?

[@lee2217]

@@FootyAdventures they are but sadly no fans at any ground due to lock down

[@aidenwalker6617]

Go to maybole stadium

[@FootyAdventures]

I'll definitely check that out. Thanks for watching Aiden

[@alanfox691]

Alan Shields Hamilton South Lanarkshire. Me & My Girlfriend Carol are both Pollok fans & last Sunday our club released a very similar statement. My Girlfriend's father how is originally from Pollok asked me this question on Friday when I was talking to him over the phone So if Pollok have with drawn from The West of Scotland League for one season what happens if they are able to play again in season 21/22 will they be demoted or continue to play in The West of Scotland League honesty dont know the answer myself. My fear is that no Junior club will be able to take to the pitch again ever & may need to start again as a so could Phonex club if indeed that was even possible. What I can tell you Sam is basically The plan was The winners of The so could West of Scotland would have a Playoff with the bottom clubof The lawland League So basically clubs like Pollok would essentially not have been Junior clubs any longer & part of the senior club set up this would of started from this season onwards. But The conferences below The West of Scotland League would have still been Junior clubs this is my understanding. A lot of smaller Junior club like my local junior club from back home Johnstone Burgh have been miss managed financially down though the decades in 1999 / 2000 Johnstone Burgh had reached The Scottish Junior Cup final loseing on penaltys the following season they won the The Central League away to local rivals Renfrew & lost to Peterhill in The Central League Cup final but after this the club was badly miss managed & plans to move to a new all seater stadium close buy never happened they could not get the land sold the current ground is on & now the club is in the lower divisions of The Junior leagues but a lot of Junior clubs have similar storys. Talbot & Hurlford United have absolutely destroyed Scottish football over the years as lots & lots of money have been pumped in to they two clubs buy local businessmen & this has ment they have been able to dominate & that's why they are hated. Think of Talbot as The Manchester United of Scottish Junior football no one outside of there fanbases will have any sympathy what so ever with they two clubs they are both despised buy the rest of Junior football. Personally hope Talbot never take to to the pitch again & it takes a lot for me to say that. My grandpa Tomson my Mum's Dad helped build Johnstone Burgh's Ground he worked for the local builder how's idea it was to found the club in 1959 to give the people of Johnstone something to do on Saturday afternoons. Most Junior club but not all are from old mineing towns like Johnstone or Mill towns like you see in Thr English game on Netflix that's still the case for Junior club in Scotland. Last season before it was holted me & my Girlfriend Carol went all the way up to Forrris near Elgin to watch Pollok play a 3rd round tie in The Scottish Junior Cup away to Forris Thistle 14 hours of travelling that was for us from Hamilton via Pollok there & back so yes Junior football is massive in Scotland. It kills me inside what is happening with Scottish Junior football one of the things that was keeping me going though this entire Pandemic was getting back to watch Pollok again we where due to have our first competitive game next Saturday afternoon of the season this will now never happen gutted absolutely gutted. I think the issue with letting fans in to Junior clubs grounds is you cant allow fans in to Junior ground & not allowed fans of senior clubs in to games aswell it would be seen as double standards buy the Government & Old Firm fans alone would be up in arms if this was allowed to happen this is inspite Junior grounds being so open to the elements. You say about the bigger clubs & how much they have spent on players they could not careless about lower League clubs or Junior clubs. Keep safe Sam.

[@FootyAdventures]

Hi Alan, thanks so much for the comment again. Even though the fans of bigger clubs might think it's double standards, at least their clubs aren't reliant on matchday income to keep going. Seems to me like Scottish football below the SPL is dying and something needs to change ASAP!

[@alanfox691]

@@FootyAdventures Honestly cant disagree our football system is overly complex I would say in Scotland. You have The Scottish Premier League Then The Championship Then Leagues 1 & 2 then the Lowland League , Highland League Then West of Scotland Professional Football League then Conferences A, B & C plus you also have Junior clubs in the North region how are separate from The Junior club in The West region , East region clubs & you then have The East of Scotland League & under that you have amateur clubs as I say way overly complex trying to explain to a none Scottish football fan how our football works is close to impossible if you understand Sam you are doing very well. Always sead we have far , far to many senior clubs for the size of population we have it makes absolutely no financial sense to me. Personally think The 4 Fife clubs should merge & The same with The Edinburgh clubs Hearts , Hibernian , Edinburgh City & Spartans. Perhaps Queens Park & Pollok should merge aswell as both are not far apart. You have two Junior clubs in The Springburn area of Glasgow that could merge aswell Petershill & Ashfield. In terms of The Premier League I would like to see a regular season of 56 games then an N.H.L style Playoffs with club playing a best of 7 game series & then as they would say in Australia a grand final this would drive up revenue from T.V as there would be more Old Firm game than just the 4 in the League plus when you ad in ticket sales & merchandise it could be a real bust to revenue that could be spread more evenly between divisions with the same idea being applied in the lower Leagues. Myb I am just crazy thinking this way but Scottish club football cant carry on the way it is that is for sure.

[@PIE_MAN2]

cfc but always hiv time fer EK thistle

[@opflug1977]

Tax the big boys!