For Gillian Robertson Social Situations Are Harder Than Fighting

Taken from JRE #140 w/Gillian Robertson:
open.spotify.com/episode/64mx...

[@PeterDrewSEO]

How good of an interviewer is JR? She started, barely able to speak, he made her so comfortable, she forgot how nervous she was. Brilliant.

[@watdeneuk]

He's really one of the best at podcasting. Maybe obvious since he has the biggest platform, but he has taken way more shit than credit in my opinion. So yes, i 100% agree.

[@oriantalist]

Give her some credit for putting herself out there too. Joe is excellent at interviewing, yes, but she also made an effort to keep the dialogue progressing.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

could not agree more. entirely right!

[@boreabalsam]

He catches so much shat, but is really a skilled professional in so many ways, but also so casually cool AND GENUINELY THOUGHTFUL to the point of professionally cool

[@kulgan18]

Underrated, makes all this late night hosts look lame. Not only does he made them comfortable, they can go to deep and intimate conversations.

[@charityscreams5366]

She seems like such an adorable person. It's wild to see her be so sweet and shy after watching her fight. Great interview.

[@dragonkingsports]

Adorable is a good word for it. You can tell she’s nervous asf being on this podcast lol

[@healer81]

She's very sweet, I didn't know about her, thanks for having her on. I wish her all the success she deserves.

[@gwakon]

yeah she seems amazing. Infectious smile which is something Ive never seen. Hope she gains a new respect and fanbase after this appearance.

[@georgepapatheofilou6118]

Confidence , a good heart and honest . A rare soul that has these qualities and can win in arena full of people . Kudos to the lady .

[@DannySullivanMusic]

exactly. precisely right

[@williamRE]

That's not how fighting works.

[@jamesarnold6070]

Huge fan of hers. Except for when I was coaching against her. She was always a tough and very respectful competitor. Not surprised she is a pro now. Jillian if you read these comments your city is proud of you!

[@brophymusprime593]

Those videos popped in my feed the other day. I tagged Vicki and Gillian's fan account

[@jamesarnold6070]

@@brophymusprime593 she smoked Becca and Trail too. And Becca was strong AF. And probably two or three weight classes up.

[@K.V.P14]

@IMY123 no

[@DannySullivanMusic]

lol dude great comment

[@mattforster1989]

Such a fan u can't spell her name

[@donaldquirk7801]

It's so nice seeing someone so authentic

[@kreyzeepsychoproductions4645]

So glad to see fellow Canadians from Ontario on such a platform.

[@Chertoff88]

Tough kid and a nice person, glad she's getting some real press

[@arthurrimbaud7287]

Why?

[@nofiltermma5138]

​@@arthurrimbaud7287 because shes been busting her ass in the ufc for years ...and its finally paying off

[@clipsedrag13]

Watching social situations online create a false anxiety for situations irl. It gives the impression that these situations are the rule, not the exception.

[@demonhighwayman9403]

Lovely girl, huge respect to her.

[@seancalabro8607]

Love of animals. Strong. inside and out. I think she is a special. What a beautiful smile!

[@0neIntangible]

I usually never watch JRE clips when they're MMA related, as I've never been a fan of the sport... but I'm glad to have taken a chance and watch this one, to give me a glimpse of hope for me to still see bright, humble and talented members of this upcoming generation.

[@Rayricki]

Takes a chance on a video of a sexy woman 😂

[@dombo916]

That's pathetic

[@yoaregey7296]

bro Fighters are most of the time very genuine people and real asl

[@jclaytoncabral5106]

The North Pond Hermit lived alone in the wilderness of Maine for 27 years until he was caught and arrested for stealing food. When asked why he lived away from society for so long he answered. “I never felt comfortable around people” I can totally relate.

[@ryph3]

cool story bro

[@jclaytoncabral5106]

@@ryph3 The book about him is really good. There’s videos on KZbin about him too.

[@philthyrich1433]

SOCIAL ANXIETY AINT NO JOKE 🫡

[@HughJaneous]

The only thing that helped was going to a gym. Forcing it on myself to be and speak in front of ppl

[@user-tm8jt2py3d]

It is pretty funny when you get home and think about all the retarded shit you did tho

[@sirelliott3753]

How's that? Where's it's roots?

[@grapentine739]

It's like any phobia. I was severely psychologically abused at the age of 3 damaging my mental health forever. I always struggled with crippling social phobia

[@johnye2210]

I have it bad !!! I take anxiety pills for it and usually walk super fast with my head down to avoid. Gym is very helpful though

[@stevenanthes5696]

What a lovely, sweet girl comes across as a good human being.The working with animals fantastic.....I have no use for fighting outside the ring......says it all....I wish her well

[@Jim-ok9zi]

I like the fact she has compassion for animals.

[@bikersoncall]

I agree, those that don't, have no idea how gifted humans are, and how incredibly lucky to be in the slot we're at in the food chain.

[@ryguy5929]

This is amazing she's on the JRE. Always been a huge fan. Let's go Canada 🇨🇦

[@canadaeast8358]

What a nice person she is

[@truevinister6278]

Nothing could be more true for many martial artists

[@ma.cannon2849]

It’s a sad truth tbh

[@shredd5705]

Because their world view always assumes people have bad intentions? Since they spend so much time preparing for something bad happening? Idk, a little kitchen psychology

[@forsakenlife4873]

I love the fact she is always smiling. I hope her hard work takes her all the way to the top!

[@sombojoe]

Joe is so sweet the way he makes her feel comfortable.

[@jopo7996]

She's great at submissions, but she should improve her striking. I guess what I'm saying is I'd like to see her box.

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

😂😂😂

[@ryank6091]

Haha .................. Yeah .......same ...... Actually Loled on this comment thanx bub

[@divinethug1]

Lmfao

[@bikersoncall]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 😀 😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@williamcorcoran8620]

Says the guy on the couch

[@ContentRemoved___]

She’s delightful. ❤

[@adzm1987]

The submission Queen 👸 I love watching gillian, she's so likeable and her skills are 🔥 📛

[@justingulick6747]

I love this girl.. She is always smiling and I love it.😊❤

[@twistedponies7480]

Never heard of her, only seen cage fighting twice but I will be watching for anything she does! Instant fan ❤

[@karlgrimsson9073]

She is awesome ❤

[@YaMoonSun]

Cool interview. Keep it up Joe.

[@rasalghul9331]

I love that Joe is such a fan of fights and fighters and his encyclopedia knowledge of fights allows him to have such an easy, relaxed but informative conversation with fighters about their fights and specific particulars about their fights.

[@sea_turtle_adventures]

She such an awesome person by everything I've seen and read about her. Great to hear her conversation with Joe.

[@griigorihabii]

I had severe social anxiety as a child. Then I realized that nobody cares about anyone else and **blip** it was gone.

[@ma.cannon2849]

Pretty much

[@damont5487]

Theres a term for this where people assume that everyone else is paying attention to them as much as they pay attention to themselves, when in reality nobody gives a shit

[@XenoTravis]

People with a disorder understand that and still can't control it. That is why major depression follow anxiety disorders. Knowing something is a irrational fear but still be controlled by it is not fun

[@deejay1040]

If that simple realization cured you, you never had it.

[@kevinwheeler5595]

Really is the truth. People with this problem, myself included, think everybody is looking at them and it’s massively stressful. Its not out of ego or thinking they are the shit its just you thinking people are looking at you. People arent looking at you. People will glance and move on with their day usually and this realization helps alot

[@usagi009]

After watching her march and watching her talk in this video 😮 the dynamic

[@jabbadabbajew6035]

People have mistaken the word anxiety when it’s really just being nervous.

[@KingNiros]

It's all fear.

[@maxwelljacobfreedom]

​@@KingNiros words still have a purpose, hippie

[@jonmurphy4889]

Yup

[@typicalrockhound9887]

Anxiety is the highest level of nervous .

[@nGUNNARp]

@@typicalrockhound9887 no "shitting my pants" is

[@dominickendall5013]

I am now a huge fan of hers young well rounded individual

[@kristoforlearmonth4939]

"It's called failure to communicate." But she's great!

[@ausgepicht]

She's like every single self-described "socially awkward" person I have ever met. Socially adept, super nice, charming, and fun. I think it's like the mental version of Body Dysmorphia, i.e. skinny people looking in a mirror and seeing an obese person. In the mental version, you aren't "seeing" (with the mind's eye) an accurate version of yourself. You see a worse version than the one you genuinely are. Maybe these people are nice like she is, because they are more attentive to what they are saying. In a world full of a-holes not thinking at ALL before they say something, people like her are normal.

[@snailcage]

You can understand and follow the rules of social situations while still having a difficult time doing it. I think the main difference is that it forces you to only be reactive in conversation, so you never actually play a role in the conversation or where it’s going, you’re just reacting to what the other person is saying and worrying about how that person is perceiving you.

[@Skeletor1984]

Bien dit mon ami!!

[@TheBruceKeller]

Maybe it's that the social situations are hard for her, but she does them anyway instead of backing down and being a shut-in.

[@OnTheMountain]

​@@PaulsKZbin Umm... your extremely contradicted statement only further reinforced the original comment. If leaning in to your "social awkwardness" gives you charm.... then by nature its not socially awkward. Which brings it back to his original comment. Its all a perception of yourself.

[@OnTheMountain]

@@PaulsKZbin glad to see your argument has turned to passive insults. Usually means you see the flaw in your own logic and have nothing left to stand on. Hopefully you take something from this

[@qiqweck]

Great Podcast!

[@ryanl4614]

She is adorable. She seems like such a sweet girl I can tell she was nervous but I really loved this interview.

[@Doc_Holiday]

Very well said her genuine sincerity shines through She's adorable

[@noknownthrone2487]

Always liked Gillian, but this drove it home. Really enjoyed this!

[@hissatsu4937]

These bot channels with half naked profiles saying how they overcome social anxiety is hilarious

[@brentbush2176]

Gillian is basically a Canadian Southern Bell. She is such a gem!!!!

[@mindsoundmeditation7962]

What a sweetheart.. always fun to watch fight too!

[@natashaelyse]

Omg she is adorable! I can totally relate to her love of animals and awkward giggle. New fan here get it girl! 🙌💛🙌

[@darthwicket]

But she isn't adorable at all. Can't really love animals if you eat them. Stop being a chode

[@punkfacexo6066]

she's so precious ❤

[@SuperBullybear]

I feel your pain ❤❤

[@mrtalos]

People keep saying that social anxiety goes away when you realise people don't give a crap. They are not wrong, but getting yourself to believe that can be tough.

[@untalentedschmuck1651]

It I’ve noticed personally it really helps to talk about it.

[@LDT7Y]

Never worked for me. But one very useful trick that did work (at least in my case) was learning to focus entirely on making the other person feel good. Ask them lots of questions, make them laugh, be a good listener, then if you are concentrating enough on them it's difficult to also concentrate on how you are feeling. You don't have the free brain space to worry about both.

[@klassik68]

What a beautiful being 🥰

[@mogulrider]

Gillian you are great - just enjoy life my girl

[@juniorpiedrahita1411]

Just watching this I review I think my new favorite fighter ! ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻 keep it up I want to see you win by a long shot💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻✊🏻

[@joesalyers]

Gillian Robertson might not be the most famous UFC women's fighter but you can always guarantee when she's on the card she will fight as hard as she can for the entire duration of the bout!! This might be the first interview I have ever seen outside of regular media scrums with fighters or UFC card interviews!! Very cool!

[@TheXJRMAN]

I was at UFC Liverpool when she choked Meatball out, watching her since, super impressed, especially now I know she has anxiety - and possibly on the autistic rainbow. Future champ.

[@nofiltermma5138]

check my old interviews with her!!

[@joesalyers]

@@nofiltermma5138 I will thanks!!!

[@jojosworld956]

I love her !

[@josephodonnell1762]

She's one of my favorite to watch!

[@KingDomsKingdom85]

I love her.

[@GOD999MODE]

She's like a vicious sweetheart. So huggable but also deadly.

[@CEOofSleep]

Hug her other side and im on the other amd make a sammich!! H AHAHA HA AHA AH

[@none-ya-dam821]

Her awkward interviews years ago is what made me like her. She’s better at them now

[@oa3543]

Amazing. Love her ❤

[@dublinoseven3279]

Fighting has enforceable rules that social interactions just don’t have.

[@MikefromTexas1]

Social Interactions do have rules. Have you never seen "Curb Your Enthusiasm"??

[@dublinoseven3279]

@@MikefromTexas1 No. I honestly haven’t.

[@Mr.Nobdy11]

Who are you too even be stating such information

[@dublinoseven3279]

@@Mr.Nobdy11 I’m a guy posting comments on a KZbin video. Who are you to need credentials?

[@Mr.Nobdy11]

@@dublinoseven3279 I’ll be asking the ?s hear bud

[@ryleerichter804]

Such a adorable warrior 🥹🔥🤝🫡

[@deancrisp3596]

Don't worry girl we all have a bit of this you are great so keep your head up

[@elliotthyde5623]

She’s adorable so humble and cool

[@rong2912]

I couldn't agree more.

[@curtbeltpants4824]

What a legend.

[@clarkeshannon9563]

Great fighter from Canada 🇨🇦

[@kingofthecasuals]

Wow! She’s super cool!

[@Razear]

Lesnar had shared a similar sentiment about how the performance makes it feel like he's in his own bubble but when he's around a bunch of people, it makes him feel out of place, which is probably why he enjoys living a rural lifestyle.

[@mariewasser1097]

My parents don't understand how stressful and panicking going into the store is. I have serious social anxiety, and I really wish I didn't. People at my school think I think I'm better than them and that's why I don't talk to them but I'm so scared. Pe class is awful. I'm not bad at sports typically, quite good actually with family and friends only, but in public I can't at all. I get shaky, breathing gets tight, it's really scary. Growing up I never understood why until I went to a therapist and got diagnosed. I'm still trying to get better, I'm 16, and I recently was accepted as an assistant for a special eds program. I'm hoping I do good and it helps me improve. I believe one day it'll be better! Though, I'm still not sure how I even got it or if it's genetic, because my family are the biggest extroverts and social people. I still love people just as much. It's just hard for me. I did speech because my sister was with me, so it was a little easier, but it was still very hard. I'm trying to get better! Little steps with the people you love really help! Don't give up :))

[@dewey-cox]

Just try and remember that EVERYBODY has a lot going on in their own lives that 90% of them probably don't even notice you or aren't concerned about how you are acting.

[@benpold294]

she is just the coolest!

[@jbg71384]

God I love Gillian so much.

[@CEOofSleep]

Back off okay?

[@jbg71384]

@@CEOofSleep I can try but it is Gillian, can you blame me?! Lol

[@jasonjackson3693]

It sucks. It really does. I start getting sweaty and clammy and I start to studder my words and say weird things. Or at least I think I said something stupid

[@maxwelljacobfreedom]

Get off the medication

[@Original-Juice]

I used to be that way in front of multiple people, specifically if I had to do Public speaking for example: Class presentation for School or a Business Meeting type of setting. I would feel my blood boiling and it felt like someone had a chokehold around my jugular. Hard to speak I overcame that by simply doing more of it, I learned to have fun and joke with the people who were going to be listening to me, beforehand to loosen up.

[@HarryManback0]

@@Original-JuiceI take propranolol any time I have to speak in public or do a work presentation to hundreds of people, it makes a massive difference. Wish I had it for every presentation in school and college.

[@Original-Juice]

@@HarryManback0 awesome! Thanks for the advice and glad it works for you

[@jcrosslin8]

This may sound weird, but I am the same way and was recently diagnosed Autistic. You may just wanna do a little googling. Good luck, friend!

[@timothycormier3494]

Good luck girl!! Put your heart into it and attack! God bless!

[@adrianl6754]

I like her, huge fan, very humble

[@pull_my_finger1614]

She's a sweetheart, socially akward , and a nerd ? Instant fan 🤘

[@djoecav]

Yo, I'm a bouncer, and I feel the same way. I can throw hands with a frat boy with a smile on my face and a clear head, but if someone tries to actually speak to me, shut that shit down it's over.

[@liamclark-fe2ir]

@@maxwelljacobfreedom what a great insightful take, well done Jacob… 🤡

[@KING_OF_FARTS]

@@maxwelljacobfreedom that's pretty ignorant guy.

[@djoecav]

@maxwelljacobfreedom8106 Don't get me wrong, I'm a real nice guy. De-escslation is my first priority, always. But when I'm in a fight, I don't feel like I have to run away. I'm not shaking for the next 30 minutes. But when someone holds eye contact and just makes small talk and shitty jokes, invades my personal space being all drunk and touchy, my brain is like, "I HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE." but yeah my parents did suck

[@rahuldahoob]

​@@djoecavinteresting insight!!

[@thomasblackburn3953]

She rocks!

[@lucifer73]

I overcame my social anxiety when I stopped giving a fuck. Hope that helps 🍻

[@clicheguevara5282]

..which means you didn't actually have social anxiety. You were just shy.

[@imabussuupson]

If there was ever a time to say “easier said than done” this is it

[@ZTheLastViking]

​@@imabussuupson The only thing that will get you results is to do what youre uncomfortable with. The things that make you wish a car would hit you so you can avoid it. If you face those things as much as you can endure over a longer period of time, it is exactly the thing that gets you where you want to be. That is easier said than done as well but it has to be done regardless. There's no way around it.

[@Rvainlefty]

Yup. I recommend reading the subtle art of not giving a fucc.

[@714ever8]

Not at all

[@TreyJ_mx]

She’s an absolute sweetheart

[@wc76]

Nice one! Gillian us so under-rated imo! I could see her getting the belt.

[@lakersuarez]

I feel her.

[@juniormametja-jx8fb]

Great video..♥️😍😍

[@DevMode951]

Seriously I totally get her!

[@belikeed1096]

Well, I am now a total fan.

[@Artfulscience1]

Some of the best martial artists and fighters I’ve known are very socially awkward. Hell, a lot of people that are incredibly good at a specific skill are like this. It takes a lot of alone time to be this good at something. It’s very much about temperament.

[@dapushaman5819]

Like Nick Diaz

[@immanuelcunt7296]

Not really. You can spend a lot of time alone without being socially awkward. Unless you were training since like 4 at that level you probably had enough social opportunity to develop reasonable skills. Also many activities are fundamentally social, including martial arts so you generally learn social skills. Unless you're literally walking into a gym, fighting/training/practicing the entire time without saying any words, you're going to be interacting socially somewhat. Most people who are at the top of things are intelligent and reciprocal enough to be socially skilled. Now I'm sure a significant subset of fighters are socially awkward cause you do kinda have to be fucked up in a way to be obsessed with something like that (not criticizing it at all, it's a cool thing but that level of obsession is different). And I would guess that autistic people are overrepresented among fighters because of the technical nature of it.

[@e.t.5456]

As a skydiver, I more scared of the social interaction with the instructors then I am jumping out a plane😂😂

[@PotentSenzu]

​@@immanuelcunt7296totally missed the point of what he was saying

[@benbray4982]

You don't spend a lot of time on your own kick boxing, boxing and grappling. You'll become part of a big team and if you're training somewhere good, you'll spend a few years with a good bunch of close friends.

[@barryexterjr2914]

Art of war =. War on art!!!

[@ShadowMcSneaky]

when is that spotify exclusive deal over?

[@wesker19908]

U not socially awkward, u not weird... u cautious with who u open up to and are very unique! Being different is unique and i rather have a world full of different unique ppl who are truly being themselves than a world full of regular ppl who try to fit in and blemd in knowing damn well they aren't being who they really are.

[@vaughn6371]

Some fighters are people who insist on never being a victim again. It's a victory outcome.

[@dkrappenschitz9513]

I can relate. I wouldn't be able to be at a podcast

[@terryhughes6248]

Let's goooo with that hitter Joe!!!

[@markpk7455]

That's like hockey the tuff guys on ice are nice as person.

[@scottlewis7893]

What a lovley bird

[@hiplessboy]

What a great energy Gillian has!

[@samanthab6745]

Her and mikey musumeci give me the same vibes….love this interview!

[@anthonyafonso3599]

What a lovely soul she is.

[@johnthesecond19]

She is adorable

[@Inthatgoodway]

She is the reason why I started BJJ. A huge inspiration to me and this dope she is on here.

[@Exzactz]

This is modern programming. Convinced your not good enough even though you’re actually improving yourself and others by being social and positive

[@BushLeague_BC]

thank you

[@comeclarityinsanity]

Nope, just the way some people are.

[@maxwarboy3625]

people programming. shad

[@Exzactz]

@@comeclarityinsanity nope😅It’s unnatural

[@TitoPLLE4444]

Oof damn, that line is mad relateable Personally, I learned to just compartmentalize my emotions and brain waves, but my nerves still fuck me hard. Create a facade that everything is fine, then try your damnest to believe it. I already liked Gillian before this excerpt, I admire her a whole lot more now.

[@joshuachipman4163]

Such a down to earth human. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian but I always love watching her fights compared to most women's MMA that is. Cool she got this chance be on JRE.

[@aaronmaldonado1965]

Her bashfulness really gives you a glimpse of kind soul. So sweet ❤

[@hyfrlegend3252]

low key feel the same, I don’t compete nowhere near the same level as her but navigating a fight is much easier than some social interactions. boxing you have set rules and techniques you stick too, social interactions are just chaos