Nick Bostrom: Why Our Brains Themselves May Be Simulated

Taken from JRE #1350 w/Nick Bostrom: • Video

[@gillyobaggin]

if the programmer is listening, do you mind cranking my serotonin a notch or two? cheers mate.

[@uhhsiiji]

same bruh

[@JaspHov]

@@markus-sweden4765 I wonder if jesus was handing out mdma instead of holy bread

[@FoodieFx]

@@markus-sweden4765 It can also make you incredibly depressed for a few days after, or even more so long term if you take it incorrectly (not testing it, take too much, have a bad reaction, etc.) - I would wait until it goes through trials and is accepted for therapy.

[@carpathianhermit7228]

@@markus-sweden4765 na g thatll cause a snowball as you get a boost short term then your levels go dowm. Apparently psilocybin is good.for seratonin

[@markus-sweden4765]

@@FoodieFx bruh i kinda overdosed and i never been happier

[@Durtly]

After air conditioning, before killer robots. Best time to be alive.

[@manga3040]

Lmao. Nice one.

[@omar10213245]

air conditioning and deoderant. A-freaking-men

[@chadnuts]

Killer robots already exists, Obama loved using them.

[@jonathang.2082]

chadnuts lol youre one of those

[@chadnuts]

@@jonathang.2082 If you mean, i consider drones to be killer robots. Yes, I'm "one of those"

[@IHaveToReturnSomeVideotapes.]

Option four : our universe is powering Rick's car battery.

[@lukeward7464]

OMG!!!!!! ITS OPTION 4 😱

[@walmarp]

yeah

[@robbierude9833]

Option 5: You're actually an electric toothbrush.

[@Cannabails]

@@robbierude9833 vibrator*

[@Diggyace14]

Total recall is coming!

[@shcrimps]

they should put this clip on GTA 6's radio and it would make perfect sense

[@memberberry3472]

Underrated comment

[@frankmoran4556]

@@memberberry3472 no it isn't.

[@j-r-m7775]

@@memberberry3472 Where can I find the official KZbin comment ratings? What rating did this comment get and what would you give it?

[@manavgoyal4965]

damn

[@coryleblanc]

shitty game, i have no clue why people play gtav or vi

[@gleep5002]

imagine being the creator of the simulation and watching this

[@giacchina]

LOCKEHEART “oh shit little fucks are figuring it out again, time for another plague”

[@eddiereyes8355]

No but fr tho 👀

[@gleep5002]

giacchina lmaooo

[@rocco9216]

Stfu🤣🤣🤣

[@spiritfree5050]

and fapping?

[@gooneh]

Now imagine a world where whoever could have possibly made us in a simulation is getting congratulated because their simulated human beings figured out they were in a simulation

[@elementop6847]

U think it simulated this or was it programmed in the simulation before hand?

[@JerryJrsGarage]

Elemento P This is some deep deep coding here...or was that just ai learning were learning and so that changes it all now....I am having a brain fart...never mind😂

[@elementop6847]

Jerry Jrs Garage but was the AI programmed to realize its own existence, or could it have simulated people that would one day create the technology to figure out what the hells actually going on, because the simulation actually has no idea it’s in a simulation...

[@JerryJrsGarage]

Elemento P Thats deep I like it 🤣

[@user-bk8of5ex3q]

@@elementop6847 or who programmed it before hand was itself programmed before hand?

[@mitchdavis6001]

I’m a veteran and I wish the VA would approve the use of DMT in controlled settings with a physician

[@izzyh.3581]

You can just tell he knows we're in a simulation. He even looks like the basic start up Sims character.

[@mpcnotnpc]

Ahahah

[@Parallelwurlds]

😂😂😂

[@chadwillett619]

You ever saw domestic abuse on the Sims? My niece was play the other day and she screamed and I went over she said omg he hit his wife and I looked on the computer and the woman was crying and the man was yelling at here it was funny as shit. I never knew they got crazy like that.

[@madoc1]

@@chadwillett619hahhhahaha what the fuck I never knew that

[@drewringwood4590]

Joe: “How much have you considered the simulation argument...”? Nick: Um. I invented it.

[@erikw113]

He asked him about him thinking about his self being in a simulation not about the argument it’s self.

[@geena_g3387]

Drew Ringwood 😂

[@Sursion]

He did not invent it, the ancient greeks thought up simulation theory back in 3000bc

[@matheusminto]

@@Sursion Without computers?

[@jacobrichardson6602]

@@matheusminto Plato's allegory of the cave

[@magellanicspaceclouds]

The programmer built DMT into the simulation as a secret cheat code to view the inner workings of the program.

[@5dgisd528]

sounds like a joke almost, but it´s weird how much DMT lets you see through the physical "reality" we perceive everyday. You just get this very convincing feeling/image that something is going on there, which can not be imagined by the brain; in fact the brain is not really capable of fully integrating this experience.

[@ogarrt]

Magellanic SpaceClouds drugs in general

[@lowquality9530]

How do you even find dmt

[@StevenLeMieux]

@@lowquality9530 dmtnexus and learning

[@StevenLeMieux]

@@tommiller7215 because it is. Quantum counciousness theory. Think objective not subjective in terms of the construct of ego we identify as the self. Like Alan Watts said it's a play we are it and are in it.

[@terryh7211]

Imagine getting advanced enough to build such a simulation, and then watching the people within the simulation get to the point that they created their own simulation. That would blow your mind, you would have to question how many simulations within a simulation we were in

[@ottam]

Bostrom addresses this argument in his theory.

[@jonathanburton4381]

13th floor elevators - a movie about just that

[@jasonmugg3823]

Then that creator would begin to question if they were in a simulation!!!!

[@Gallowglass7]

Imagine if the 'engineers suddenly figured out...hang out we ain't in base reality either. This goes infinitely deep I feel...

[@Blueberry-tu9el]

@@jasonmugg3823 they would likely be in one

[@harveyquinn3535]

That just sounds like consciousness with extra steps

[@nicolenotizieeamici]

Exactly

[@daveryan2148]

That's what makes the entire thing jive... It ties together consciousness as we perceive it and also explains the mysteries of quantum mechanics at the same time.

[@TheFos88]

Pfft. You just sound like consciousness with extra steps.

[@e.Kab.]

... if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a sound?... No the simulation is trying to save RAM 😂

[@MumblingSolipsist]

This needs at least 100 likes.

[@stevenewsom3269]

Therefore there is no tree, or even forests without human observers for that matter.

[@stevenewsom3269]

Double slit experiment and schrodinger's cat

[@nunyabiz9969]

How come sometimes we dnt see thunder but still hear it??

[@TrondBie]

Lamar White no one there is online..or..

[@AlixBRoy]

Graphics are cool, well optimized but the gameplay sucks

[@FU7IM7CANADIAN]

What are you running? I still get jitters and lag.

[@SacrificialHam]

The gameplay doesn’t suck just because you’re bad at it.

[@PuntedKitten]

@@SacrificialHam Some people play on hardcore with the settings like "cerebral palsy" or "schizophrenia". Plus, initial character design is out of our hands. We can only mold it after.

[@matttorres5510]

DLC is too expensive and too much grinding. Too much pay to win going on.

[@octanewhale7542]

I’m bonding out of f2p in 2020 with digital assets like XRP

[@JakePickett-mz7lg]

Im surprised the double slit experiment wasnt mentioned in this conversation. The fact that particals behave diffrently when observed is a huge reason to believe that we are living in a simulation

[@Neon-ws8er]

why do so many people misunderstand what it means to observe something

[@derekluna7700]

@@Neon-ws8er because it's not standard in English to consider "interaction" when using the word observe. In fact, in most cases in English, they are polar opposites. It's how this experiment got so popular - by abusing this word leading to these misunderstandings.

[@cosmictropicalcollective]

It's not about someone looking with his eyes ...as in a conscious person. it's about intervention

[@dubaiedge]

This seems like a double bind. How would we know how they behave when not observed? Because to know how they act either way still takes observation, whether through our eyes or another mode of observation. In the room or not, we're still making an observation. We can't know how something acts when we're not observing it. Why? Because there was no observation to begin with. No camera set up. For all I know, stuffed animals could get up & start dancing the jig in a child's room when they turn out the light. Just seems contradictory. And leaves out the experiment itself impacting a particle's behavior in terms of the controls used.

[@shawzymusic]

My theory has always been this: even if we were a part of a simulation, our perceived reality is real to us. It's very possible you could be the only conscious entity in your reality - however it is still your reality. Everything you perceive is real, regardless if it exists outside of your own consciousness. So whether or not we live in a simulation is irrelevant because everything we perceive is still real and genuine to us.

[@SimplifiedTruth]

Correct. BUT it begs the great question.... what's beyond the simulation? Who's running it? Etc. That in itself changes the game!!

[@maxrossen2369]

Shut up man it's insane to think you're the only one

[@arnesbeganovic]

@@SimplifiedTruth it might be homework of some student thats learns about simulations, it might be for museum purposes. Lets say they want to show how it was in covid time. Simulation starts in 2019 and runs couple of years and than repeats. On the other table there is ww2, moon landing, piramids building etc

[@dontcare7086]

My whole interpretation of the simulation theory is that if it isn't real at our very core being are consciousness is just electrical outputs in the brain. Signals of information. It makes no difference if we are in a simulation or the one true reality because how we function would be virtually the same. Even down to what you believe happens if you die. A simulation could constantly start you over or put you into a version of heaven. But how our minds work and process information could just be a super computer or it could be a true reality.

[@joostvw3692]

In the end it also does not really matter; for some reason we have a very strong will to keep ''living''. And if we all of sudden start doing something completely ''wrong'' or different, then who knows what happens and maybe the simulation is shut down.

[@brandonlowman1934]

Wish I could have conversations like this with my friends lol

[@NotAdams]

You have lame friends, my group has convos like these all the time 😂

[@brandonlowman1934]

@@NotAdams You right. I cut em all off and now I just talk to myself from different perspectives and reply to comments all day

[@Orthodox_Methodist]

@@brandonlowman1934 John is living in a facade of social media. He really doesn't have friends. He just communicates with randoms online in the hope of coming off as better compared to those who he replies too. In reality he is 4 weeks away from compulsive suicide. John will just end up another John Doe. Lonely and sad up until his inevitable death. Dont be like John. Love your lame friends and inspire them to be cooler, that is all.

[@richardwainwright507]

@@Orthodox_Methodist Interesting viewpoint sir. But remember it may not be that way.

[@MrMate8869]

You can end up believing alot of rubbish having friends like that. If this is a simulation is anything really rubbish though.

[@mikefrost8815]

If him and Elon got on here 2gether with a bag of shrooms they'd scare eachother into facilities

[@Kattery_Alt]

@anonymous lol

[@hildizlindiz5683]

💯

[@joythehomemaker904]

Joe : DMT, simulation,aliens, weed, DMT, and Jujitsu philosophy oh and Elk

[@FluxFreeman]

You single?

[@NLspartan117]

I like that you put DMT two times🤣

[@100kie]

Can’t forget yoga and the sauna 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

[@heelmoxley365]

I find it hard not to question the bigger things in this day to day. Everything is just so confusing and no one likes addressing it.

[@TheFos88]

Absolutely correct. Over the past few years I've begun more and more to ponder these huge and difficult ideas. However I've also had progressively worsened existential dread sometimes so bad I become severely depressed for days.

[@kalletheowner]

Yes, ive been wondering the same. I wish more people would ask questions and discuss.

[@benjaminparkes7883]

@@TheFos88 i feel you. Its very hard to bring yourself back into the mundane reality of every day life

[@benjaminparkes7883]

@@TheFos88 how do you deal with / bounce back from the dread?

[@benjaminparkes7883]

For me, I think i find comfort in the fact that some things are simply incomprehensible. You will never know the answer. Besides, what would life be like if you did? Its a strange paradox, because I, like you have within me a desire for knowledge and truth, and yet if all was attained, everything would seemingly become futile. As sam harris said, you never quite arrive. Interesting stuff

[@alanhilton3611]

My life's a simulation on how much crap someone can put up with before they loose it.

[@ApeSlayer]

That's everyone's simulation.

[@alanhilton3611]

@Ivory Birchman you've absolutely no idea pal.

[@johnny4625]

Alan Hilton lose*

[@alanhilton3611]

@@johnny4625 as I said to the last idiot.....just what the fuck would you know...you don't know shit about me....prick.

[@DeathShadow112233]

That’s my life

[@iananthony2578]

Why do they still make us pay taxes in this simulation

[@MrAdamkosey]

Cos they're cunts

[@Mr_krabz_mcfc]

@@MrAdamkosey 😂 😂

[@Mr_krabz_mcfc]

They are bitcoin mining with us

[@christophergreen2106]

Ian Anthony ios7 hasn’t come out

[@T3andThePurpose]

bc its not a simulation..God creating the earth and heavens

[@azzwhipe1246]

I go through all these theories every day

[@johnwoods8331]

I believe that we were once all one but were put here to have an experience of what it is like to be many. Wars, friendships, relationships, enemies, family, these are all dynamics that test our ability to organize ourselves in a world where we believe we are many yet are fundamentally one.

[@thechosenone-it5uh]

I’ve heard that theory but where does it come from?

[@balmainrichard1335]

​@@thechosenone-it5uh Eastern Thought, African Thought, Neville Goddard, Scovel-Shinn, etc.

[@shariq5404]

In another dimension: Jaime :- Joe pull it up.

[@bottegabo2898]

1. wrong video 2. you stole that 3. it's not funny because doesn't make sense with this clip

[@jesseliverless9811]

Geez make your own comments you brainless parrot

[@3rdeye931]

Joe: Yes massa

[@roberthofmann8403]

Please explain. TIA

[@goose33]

Mind blown

[@longtimecoming3698]

Who's not having fun in their simulation and wants their money back? ✋

[@PrettiBoiMicah]

I didn't pay for Covid😷

[@tanberetO]

Covid is getting nerfed in the 2021 update.

[@juice.giygas]

The money's a simulation too, this sucks I just want some toppy

[@sandboxjk5696]

You won’t get your money back, you’ll just get deleted

[@DarenCavalliere]

LOL

[@ninjaaitools]

Nick doesn’t want to admit it but he 100% believes we’re living in a simulation 😅

[@thechosenone-it5uh]

Doesn’t want to be attacked by the simulation gods

[@ninjaaitools]

@@thechosenone-it5uh ha...yep. That or doesn't want to be called crazy.

[@unfilteredminds-zd4ig]

The majority of physicists believe we live in a simulation. The crazy ones are the ones that don't believe it.

[@balthazargerards]

@@thechosenone-it5uhAdmin approves discussion

[@thechosenone-it5uh]

@@balthazargerards Ok cool

[@shieldmaiden1318]

When I was first able to access the internet, I sat at my desk for about 60 days and asked every damn question I ever had. It was unbelievable and whether or not the answers were 100% accurate or not, It was the equivalent of jumping in my bed naked rolling around with 5 million dollars in singles and absorbing every damn penny. I was a knowledge junkie and I still am. I became a genius overnight with all of my potential validated.

[@hightech3161]

I remember my father ordering a 2nd phone line, just to use for internet. When the internet was young , it was an amazing experience .

[@shieldmaiden1318]

@@hightech3161 Doesn't it amaze you how kids could be walking around asking someone the same questions 3 days in a row with the ability to answer the questions right in the Palm of their hand but not being curious enough to do it

[@Featherless1]

Click on the pissed Eagle... 😉

[@eddiereyes8355]

Imagine you are just walking around this simulated world not knowing you are actually the creator.

[@makkuzen7155]

Bro........

[@JDW0]

that’s deep

[@TheJeremyKentBGross]

Thsnk you Alan Watts.

[@nobodysshadow9708]

😊👌

[@lilliampumpernickle4453]

that would be so dumb. this whole time I couldv just created some god dam money instead of being a slave

[@noeldickinson9365]

"Row, row , row your boat. Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream."

[@InnerLuminosity]

Enghlightmed beings approve

[@MaddenDoctor]

Noel Dickinson row row row your boat, gently down the stream, if you see a crocodile, don’t forget to scream!

[@pinkberryconsumer4059]

Roll roll roll a joint pass it down the line take a toke hold the smoke blow your fucking mind.

[@blakewilliams5344]

@@pinkberryconsumer4059 with weed? Doubt.

[@thinkingmachine354]

Shane Knerr wtf is that from? Did you just make it up?

[@DAIMONisDMAN]

Thank you guys for being in my simulation.

[@DRIFT_CORE]

1 thing I think is overlooked is that if the simulation was real and we are living in it who are we to say it is indistinguishable from reality. In my opinion its more reasonable to assume we live in a watered down universe in order to make it easier on the computer, the same way when you play gta it's a representation of our world but far less complex.

[@bdekraker]

Human Music... I like it!

[@nickpeterson6647]

Like when you you venture out into the hinterlands you can just feel that there is a lot less bandwidth running.

[@Zach-vh1fv]

@@nickpeterson6647 meh I live in the sticks and still have tons of stress. It’s relative

[@peoplez129]

That would largely defeat the point of the simulation though. The whole point of the simulation would be to simulate things to such a degree, that the output would be applicable and comparable to the actual real world, otherwise the data gathered about the simulation would largely be pointless. It's like a game simulating aliens that don't actually exist....simulating them doesn't tell us anything, because they're just artificial imaginary characters that only exist in the form they exist in because they're programmed to exist that way, and couldn't really exist in the real real world, which would again make the data pointless.

[@DRIFT_CORE]

why does it have to be to gather data , as humans we do lots of things to prove we can or just for fun / a simulation of that accuracy wouldnt happen first time and would have many test versions @@peoplez129

[@MrDBrock89]

Can anyone simulate some more money in my bank account? Thaaaanks

[@sashabooth1053]

Manifest it instead, but there's better things to be wealthy with than money

[@yoda1934]

I dont know bro I'd feel pretty good if i had a new Corvette and money to go on vacation

[@Kwushi]

did it work ?

[@siddbastard]

You're being casual with a God. I wouldn't recommend it.

[@mrwoody1413]

D A wtf...?

[@strawman7936]

Schrödinger: And it is when you open the box to observe the cat that it is either dead or alive. Joe Rogan: But why is there a cat in a box?

[@Sunkyoshipbitch]

Schroedinger: Its a thought experiment. Joe: No I get that. But how do we know it's a box though?

[@treymichaelsmusic]

BUT WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A CAT?

[@brotherjordh9399]

Joe: But what if I have a dog?

[@infamousspade3845]

Joe: So what you are saying is theoretically it could be any animal?

[@Mick1000]

Joe: So first explain to people who are listening what a cat is and how it got in the the box and why it took DMT!

[@peekaboo8981]

Thank you for the outlook Mr.Rogan. I needed that.

[@Baalzz302]

There has been video-games like the oculus since the 90’s. I can’t remember exactly when, 96’ maybe? I visited the CN Tower in Toronto. Inside the ground floor building there was a huge room with virtual reality games. You got a headset, a gun and stood inside a large hex-shaped crib. The gun was the controller, but where you moved your head is how you turned. The game was a very basic, 3D block-type FPS shooter and multiplayer (supported 4 players). I believe the system that was used was called 3DO.

[@trevor7802]

Not a peep outta young Jamie and his A in physics

[@amiracleone2803]

Best comment on hear Lmao good job......... Jaimie Got Burned by an A in humor. A+ comment buddy.

[@natethekid8072]

He said he didn't even get that far in learning about physics.

[@amiracleone2803]

@iLikeScienceStuff ! Watch should we assume a Simulation has been created on JRE clips.

[@amiracleone2803]

@iLikeScienceStuff ! Most likely we are in a Simulation. The odds are astronomical lol.

[@ghostazp3377]

He's smart enough to know this guy is full of shit

[@robk.6591]

Joe has a 6 pack set of abs on his forehead.

[@7xr1e20ln8]

Am I the only one who only sees a 5 pack?

[@CheekyElbow]

I see pussy flaps when he frowns.

[@Twentywulf]

Hahaha 😂🤣

[@ReaperPLUR]

It's just called a 6 pack bro

[@glowingdawn9179]

Can't get forehead day

[@malikairadmanovick1248]

It's intriguing to think if there could possibly be a biological "center" and a simulated "circumference". The possibility of there being a more energy based "center" to the biological "circumference" is fascinating

[@nellkellino-miller7673]

It's weird, as far back as I can remember, I was convinced we were in a simulation. I have distinct memories of bugs and glitches and strange experiences such as taking my VR headset off and standing on something like a 360 treadmill, wired up to weird machines. I had no idea how to ask my parents about this, but I did my best. They just didn't get it. By the time I was 6 or 7, I guess the matrix managed to convince me it was real and I eventually stopped asking these questions. I grew up in a rural french mountain village with no internet access in the 90's. So I had no way of getting these ideas from an external source. These days, I'm less and less sure that I should have stopped asking questions.

[@bloodsports94]

You have schizophrenia and should probably be on medication.

[@patrickwilson2474]

Sounds like schizophrenia or psychosis

[@MG-gc8nn]

Joe "im glad the simulation creator gave us DMT" Rogan

[@apollo1573]

Troy Salvia? Fuck no

[@ButtChugDoug66]

@@apollo1573 I love salvia. Also, I'm not very good at making grilled cheese sandwiches either

[@Rex-ud7vc]

@ Troy - I took a high extract once and felt as if I was being forced to merge in to the ground. Everything was in slow motion and I felt every atom in my body slowly merge/meld in to the ground and felt like I was going to stop existing as a person and just become a part of the ground/earth. It was terrifying. I thought I was going to die by slowing just ceasing you exist and I was being held prisoner unable to stop any of it from happening no matter how hard I fought against it. Fuck Salvia. Dmt has never once given me anxiety or fear. Different strokes perhaps but I’ll never do salvia again...

[@josechang3790]

This video makes me realize that us humans have no idea what we know and do not know. The only thing we have is the Now. The present moment, and I’m extremely grateful for it.

[@LazyCliqueOFC]

Only way to live health

[@coryleblanc]

but God is still real

[@slum6036]

Asian noodle

[@jakeq3530]

@@coryleblanc God is a programmer

[@coryleblanc]

@@jakeq3530 could be Satan, since he runs this simulation

[@vickielawson3114]

This is such a fascinating conversation. Absolutely amazing. I'm going to have to listen to the whole interview.

[@jdmc1v1c60]

To be honest, if we are in a simulation. I am currently 40 and I want to come out of my simulation being 20 retaining the knowledge and experience I gained. People always say "if I knew then what I know now" I think the world would benefit greatly because they can see consequences of their/our actions without it being real.

[@Zach-vh1fv]

You have absolutely no idea what they mean by simulation, do you? You’re not coming out of any simulation dummy, you’re going to live and die in the simulation. Jesus the average intelligence these days

[@Jack-gn4gl]

To be old and wise you must be young and stupid

[@bridaw8557]

Along those lines, some have suggested that like multiple universes or quantum reality, when this simulation ends, part of you continues the program in one form or another. Maybe not dying but re spawning seamlessly. How would he know if we are in the same simulation or version we were in yesterday? Boggles my mind

[@abhishekchavhan2018]

if you finish a video game and start it again, it gets boring.

[@MRkriegs]

That ain't how it works

[@mattstowers4475]

Every human through out time has thought the time they lived in was the most important time in history..that's just human nature

[@tensegritywill]

And everyone has always lived in "modern times."

[@USER-G291]

Yeah this might be a strongpoint in history though in fact it will be it won’t be the most important time the present is always most important

[@Booksaplenty1]

I don't think I live in the most important time in history.

[@mailliw94]

not really, because until now there wasn't a whole lot of there being any way to study history behind us.

[@thomascumiskey732]

And they where right.... everytime

[@pnice494]

Rick and Morty may have nailed it and we are all in a separate game of Roy at the arcade.

[@loganblankenship1591]

Just dont forget to come back home to simple rick

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

Don't go back to the carpet store....

[@oscarl1820]

I was high AF when I saw this video and my mind went straight towards what you said 😂

[@edufrendebernal5160]

Where can I find more info about this rick n morty thing?

[@westcoast6162]

@@edufrendebernal5160 ..youre fucking around right?😂😂

[@bubblepaxi]

3 years ago and Nick Bostrom talked about GPT-2 already

[@ihiaolookihiatoo1640]

The part where he said it would be more sustainable to build VR only in the surface and more in detail only when we take a closer look is great. Thats actually something i always thought about as a child. I remembered playing Counter strike condition zero, and thought about the other characters in the game. I had a question that when those characters both on my teams and the terrorist team are not on my screen are they really there? Or they are only there when i took a certain path or walk into a certain room and see them shooting at me and i shoot back. Its kinda similar to what he said about, if i understood what he meant correctly, he talked about the table they are sitting at in a VR world created, they could take a microscope and other equipment to look at the table observe the atoms and whatever that the table is made of and make measurements etc. But those smaller details don't have to be created for real until they take a microscope and take a look at it that would make it easier and using lesser computing power instead of creating everything with details.

[@M4rs0]

exactly, it's the age old question, that when a tree falls in a forest where there is nobody around, does it make a sound? what is fascinating is, that quantum theory proves our universe is of such nature. the observer directly influences physical world around just by measuring (looking). it all starts with double slit experiment. it's amazing how physicists are becoming philosophers, because that's where their exact measurements and repeatable experiments naturaly lead them. what a time to be alive.

[@thechosenone-it5uh]

@@M4rs0 It’s because of that experiment that I discovered this simulation. While before that I was completely convinced there was nothing beyond this world

[@easynow6599]

It reminds me of (i asked chatgpt on this) subjective idealism by George Berkley.. About Counter Strike, i guess they could simulate the bots movement from their base to your position but nothing else at all. So PC will not calculate all renderings etc.. Another thing is they have calculated the some scenarios of the positions you'll meet the first bots and just give you one of these scenarios without any prior calculation.

[@realsatoshihashimoto]

​@M4rs0 The quantum double slit experiment does appear to support the hypothesis we are living in a simulation where only what is observed is fully rendered. How else to explain that merely observing an experiment alters the outcome. A single photon fired at a double slit produces an interference pattern on the screen if the path of the photon is not observed, implying the photon travels through both slits and interferes with itself. Yet observe that photon and the interference pattern disappears and the photon is always observed travelling through one slit or the other. The interference pattern still disappears if the photon is only observed after it has already travelled through the slits. This is exactly what would be expected if the universe is simulated - only that which is observed would need to be fully rendered.

[@beschuitfluiter]

It's in the unreal 5 engine now with nanite. The closer you are, the more detail is rendered

[@n3rds3y3vi3w]

People in 2020 B.C. - Do you think this is all some sort of intelligent design? People in 2020 A.D. - Do you think this is all some sort of simulation?

[@gangstafan1]

Joe: how much have you considered the simulation possibility? Nick: I developed the simulation argument

[@erikw113]

He was asking how much has he thought about himself being in a simulation. Not about the simulation argument

[@antoniodg2673]

My 9yr old son said to me, "Life is a video game that God is playing"

[@calebbrown1341]

And you're God 👀

[@corriedotdev]

I'm doing a PhD on VR interaction and simulation. It's a thought that comes to mind all the time the deeper I explore human factors in computing. How we physically interact with the real world and how can we convert this into digital interaction? The thing is, I've found some novel interaction approaches that are being published. If I was to make a time machine this is the time I'd want to visit. The birth of multimodal virtual reality interfaces. It's quite a trippy thought.

[@tybogit]

Plot twist: The guest is actually AI

[@michaelmyrick6617]

PlotTwist: So is TheJRE

[@sheeparebillygoats7221]

Hes an npc

[@The_Kiosk]

I must say that simulation argument would account for all the NPCs.

[@Dapryor]

😂😂 I was getting bored with the comment section until I read this.

[@scardes1]

@@Dapryor same, 🤣

[@BreachMePlz]

Please retrieve this item for xp and more quests.

[@angelomartinez9039]

🍊 man bad

[@oleand14]

If Bethesda made our simulation it is a possibility we are in one yes....

[@bassist789]

“What are the chances of living in the most interesting time in history.” The present has always and will always be the most interesting time in history…

[@giuffre714]

Well done 😀

[@Lions7.62mm]

What if WE are the artificial intelligence, and we're JUST barely on the horizon of a self realization that we are sims.

[@superluminalsquirrel9359]

*hits blunt* whoa...

[@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks]

There's NO way my brain is simulated. Because they would have done a better job. And if it was, it was built on a Friday afternoon.

[@KinnArchimedes]

If you were looking for evidence of simulation, you'd expect yo find shortcuts and gaps, which is what I find constantly and consistently. Though it's not necessarily evidence of simulation as their are usually always other reasonable explanations.

[@slowdownkyoto]

KinnArchimedes examples?

[@nolanlynch2430]

Friday afternoons don't exist. Only Monday mornings.

[@xanadu6802]

Or built on a Monday morning

[@probablynotanagent5594]

Fallout S.P.E.C.I.A.L

[@incognitox9551]

It's 5:30 AM where I live and this video is exactly what I needed.

[@giovannianzaldo2336]

Good morning champ. I'm headed to bed, it's getting late.

[@quackhead1661]

@@giovannianzaldo2336 lmao now that you mention it I don't really know how to either

[@apacifistmachinegunner669]

0249 in East Texas 🤘🏻

[@natethekid8072]

So, now it's 8:30 am there.. but it's still 4 am here.

[@Mr4o4]

0420 in Atlanta lol

[@mitchal54321]

To anyone who disagrees with Bostrom saying he invented the simulation argument, he did. There’s a difference between a theory, and an argument. He didn’t develop the theory or be the first to think of it. He wrote a published paper and developed the simulation argument which contains 3 points within the argument using what we know today that makes it hard and basically impossible to refute the argument.

[@BitsEternal]

I'd say it's pretty obvious whoever created the simulation theory/argument would have to be the same being who developed into our interaction among all that is separate from the instinctual preservation of pure essence of individual necessity of protection of individual totality non optional relation by agency in thought as result of self-reflecting of continuous observance of consciousness based off of instinctual preservation of that that is actor of agency whilst being aware that the actions permanent state of being relative to actions continuous togetherness within as with the contained containing all ability of observation of the separate as well as certainity by all mater of said conscious exister of all existence as we know it by no choice of our own after all of a sudden noticing awareness off capability to be aware of realizing protection of choice concerning furtherance of agency continuing the self reflective back and forth that is consciousness existing nowhere standing in nothingness somewhere alone with everything else that never began after not existing at all within the totality of emptiness inside all of its fullness void of every bit of nothing at all composing reality or moment by moment continuous changing of sets of data through process with intent of observing result of unknowable outcome of a unchangeable and irreversible experience ending in unavoidable certainty if ever process is repeated lol I just felt like typing as much nonsense as possible goal achieved What if our experience of life in its totality was just the action from start to finish of a A.I. computer processor running a bunch of data entered into a super computer by a conscious being typing random thoughts and or specific ideas into a program designed to show the result of a full life cycle with varying circumstances

[@musstta01]

@@BitsEternal tldr

[@BitsEternal]

@@musstta01 It's actually just a bunch of nonsense. Not even supposed to be coherent lol. I hadn't slept 2 or 3 days and, The Hope was someone would read it all the way through starting over when feeling lost. and, find themselves quite aggravated at the fact they read it all realizing it wasn't even an inkling of a thought. Hehe(⁠☞⁠^⁠o⁠^⁠)⁠ ⁠☞ ∞ ←⁠(⁠*⁠꒪⁠ヮ⁠꒪⁠*⁠)

[@niknac87]

Well my "simulation" is a disappointment to my parents...

[@masondearing5004]

when we dream it's literally simulating a reality

[@chaoticembrace6984]

Nope it's the opposite - the Dreamworld is the REAL world - when ur awake - in this crazy world as it is - is the actual dream or nightmare......I do sleep deprivation for decades and have seen time stop and flutter - like it does when u remember parts of your personal dreams - and I saw the opposite happen .....I still am skating the thin line between what is reality - and what is really happening........

[@masondearing5004]

@@chaoticembrace6984 i lucid dream

[@tomp7401]

So nice to see joe have a heavyweight philosopher on the show, notice how Bostrom doesn't definitively claim anything but instead raises further arguments and speculation with each question joe asks. Many Scientists are always so certain of their facts while philosophers view truth as a sculpture that must be viewed from all angles :)

[@willkershisnik5893]

If you’re not certain of your facts as a scientist you’re not much of a scientists after all

[@csjdruid434]

Will Kershisnik But that is what creates dogma that hinders the progress of science. Just look at quantum mechanics schrodinger couldn’t even accept the probabilistic nature of his wave function because he still clinged onto the idea of classical mechanics

[@barebasics]

Hate those type of guys these are tho ones that erm and ahh while the really doers go and get shit done

[@markcoleman8236]

@@willkershisnik5893 facts change so what's really facts?

[@ViewsFromTheDeathStar]

I love the way you worded that.

[@user-cy3kb2vn8s]

Today, I was jogging at 6.2 speed with no incline on a treadmill. The treadmill suddenly, and unexpectedly, COMPLETELY STOPPED. I was shocked when I looked down and saw the motionless belt. Incredibly, both my feet had stopped also. I felt frozen in place. I had zero loss of balance, or any forward momentum. That exact moment didn't feel real. It was a moment of extreme fear, relief, and amazement. How could I react so quickly without notice? I'm 66 years old, and spend a lot of hours on the treadmill. I primarily speed walk at 4.5 speed, and occasionally jog at 6.2, and sprint at 8.2. I average 45 minutes of duration. Today I had been on the treadmill for just over an hour. I constantly vary my speed, cadence and stride and believe I'm always in total control. I've treadmilled 60+ miles in a day and have published a few posts explaining how I feel a connection between my brain, body, and the treadmill. My focus is locked into a spot on the treadmill headboard throughout my sessions. I'm constantly focused on stride symmetry. This extreme level of focus was perpetuated by my skeletal imbalance. I'm missing a significant part of my shoulder blade due to a jaw transplant. I wouldn't dare consider reinacting what happened today. It doesn't seem physically possible for me to stop simultaneously with the treadmill,and have no loss of balance or feel any forward momentum. Can someone explain how this would support the simulation argument? That moment was the most unreal moment of my life. The next closest were two near death experiences.

[@joshgiesbrecht]

If we are in a simulation, I'll never forgive those bastards for nerfing my processing power.

[@brianf1929]

Mr.Clean would be so proud

[@brandonvlm3035]

He raised two fine men

[@SuperBaby11]

This

[@julythrunov]

Lol Joe wants a certain answer. He wants this guy to say “well..there is this little bit of evidence I uncovered that we are in fact in a simulation” lol

[@kingdomcome1617]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/apLcfHqvpbmnd6s

[@nicolenotizieeamici]

Exactly- he is not the best interviewer lately

[@eddiedead2702]

It's a valid question. I could developer a deep argumentative theory that existence as we know it exists within the fart vapor of a greater deity...but it essentially means fuck all if I don't even have a basis to think that other than "we can't prove we dont". Dudes not a bad interviewer, he clearly shows this guy is talking out of his ass with big thoughts and words.

[@dmanstarr]

He wasn’t using big words. You are just not very smart.

[@eddiedead2702]

@@dmanstarr if you want to feel smarter than somebody else, then you actually have to be smarter than somebody else. You weren't even smart enough to address the point...

[@blakpearlthmvmnt4535]

You know it's a simulation when you've watched the original matrix multiple times.

[@bearwitty9690]

In case we are in a simulation I think it's very dangerous to ask what's beyond the simulation, because(given the possibility that this simulation is for educational purposes) becoming aware that we're in a simulation would make the results less genuine and therefore the person running it might decide to terminate the experiment.

[@xkozyr]

TLDR: Shut up bro or they'll shut us down

[@Kaleki935]

Not really. At a certain point of intelligence, the concept of perma-never existence starts to permeate into every part of daily life. Being is better than not being, why would anyone want to not be? There's nothing worth talking about, thinking about, or doing if it's not advancing this seemingly unclearable hurdle. Ignoring it for creating the next generation only puts off the question until eventually the combination of an easier life and the aforementioned intellect boost makes the same questioning pop up. (Though I don't disregard the value of life, make sure you hit the replacement rate!) For me personally, it started at age 4. I could spell dinosaur names at 3, and there has been next to nothing learned outside philosophy and biblical validations. I've been held back from so much potential by feeling the constant void. What value am I gaining from literal emotional, mental and physical stunting through the challenges these questions brought? I know what potential I've lost, and I still feel zero reason to alter that path until I find SOME kind of light forward

[@theTranscendentOnes]

Nope, maybe whoever is running it wants us to question if we are in a simulation

[@bearwitty9690]

@@theTranscendentOnes not true, maybe they went for icecream.

[@theTranscendentOnes]

@@bearwitty9690 maybe they're not coming back with the cigarettes?

[@Nunciovx]

Joe “you got to be bald to be on my podcast” Rogan

[@dancu10]

i am wayyy to high for this rn lol imma come back when im sober haha

[@danielnguyen6832]

Lmao

[@AlleyCatNinja]

Same, but I'mma push through it.

[@lifeisashonen4291]

Same here,the Nick guys speech pattern is trippin me out lol

[@DeathShadow112233]

That comment about that tree made me choke on my cookie

[@KasThinks]

Daniel Gutierrez bajaja Daniii!! Me muero 😂

[@NB-ir1me]

Watch us all wake up in 20 years and the first thing we hear is “your trial period has expired. Please insert .25¢ to resume your simulation”

[@devinbarnes7381]

I've always thought it'd be cool to die and just wake up as some fucking kid in 2114 at the human simulator VR arcade lol then just waltz right back to the table and have some wings

[@dr.z7958]

If we're in a simulation there are 2 possibilities: 1- They do not want us to know we're in a simulation, so it'll not happen (they'll restart it once we know). 2- They'll tell us we're in a simulation, most likely by actually telling us (like acting like a normal simulated human being who just got a reasonable theory about simulations).

[@goodfella7771]

Joe: am I imagining you or are you imagining me? Bald dude: yes!

[@scotthc947]

goodfella7771 there both bald

[@yoda1934]

You dumbaass 🦄🐔🐔🐔

[@_Cato_]

“Bald dude’s” name is right there in the title

[@TheCarnivalguy]

Well, if this is a simulated reality program, would the programmer PLEASE delete my severe-low-back-pain file? Sadistic bastards! 🤬 😂

[@jamesardis9333]

Same here. Herniated disk causing severe sciatica. Can't work anymore. One hell of a simulation. Hope there's a good purpose behind it.

[@Overlandwithjanandmaxine]

Work out your fucking abs. Have a herniated disc, found out that my lower abs help my lower back, someone invented ying yang, makes sense, found out how to specifically build abs, not just train them proper building up of muscles, thank me the fuck later. Painfree since 1year 2 month. Ah and loose weight in the process.

[@jamesardis9333]

Thank you for your reply relax here. Your words of wisdom will not be in vain. Working out my abs might not be possible now but a diligent diet carb free is in order for me. Oh yeah, can't leave off with out cussing "fuck"😁

[@Overlandwithjanandmaxine]

@@jamesardis9333 lol

[@xmidgewon736]

I feel ya man, 7 vertebrae fused t9 to l3, second back surgery 1st at 16, 2nd at 23. Its getting so bad, at least im not on heroin anymore..shout out the ones that going thru it!

[@lovingisrael2023]

A weird thought i just had is that if this is a simulation, all of our history could have been prefabricated in that the real simulation started at any moment. For example the real simulation could have started right before I started writing this. No one would know that it just started 5 minutes ago because everything was designed to seem real and sequential... kinda mind blown by that idea!

[@jheize2907]

All the fossils and historic structures are meaningless plants for us to waste money on tuition majoring in history😂😂😢

[@tripleblackjack7775]

Last thursdayism

[@Featherless1]

There's no such thing as time... Only Now!

[@MelissaGaudet-fo4jw]

Joe ALWAYS asks questions that everyone wants answers to!!! Good job Joe!

[@kevinkev417]

Joe literally found the guy who founded the simulation theory & had him on to talk about simulation theory.

[@MrMarkbad]

Gasp!

[@wnrr2696]

That’s what I would expect of a simulation

[@PrettiBoiMicah]

Great isn't it....😍

[@DarenCavalliere]

Brainy Guy was a late bloomer

[@jasonmugg3823]

You're stoned aren't you?

[@anthonyw1499]

"The mind doesn't "have" consciousness. Consciousness has minds" Rupert Spira

[@mattk.9377]

Watching this 4 years later is wild.

[@bigclutchking2784]

If i was in a simulation then whoever is controlling me sucks at his job.

[@jessetodd645]

You can tell by the look on Joes face that he needed some of this simulation talk......while watching the matrix on dmt

[@bitmammothOG]

dmt doesnt last that long bruh...

[@gypsythomas5811]

You wouldn't know the matrix on dmt... you would be in the matrix on dmt, then it would just be inception of the realist real reality....🤔🧠🔥🤯👽🤖

[@jessetodd645]

Gypsy Thomas mind blown lmao

[@MrToontuber]

We are all on dmt all the time.

[@MrToontuber]

i suspect flat earth believers are simulated ...ore on acid 🥴 ...probably both😏🤪😂.....

[@SubodhsharmaREVAIN]

My mind stopped working once I started to think what is beyond stimulation.

[@jamesfish3212]

?

[@basicinfo2022]

eternal reality.

[@faustin289]

If we are a simulation, then our simulators are most likely simulated too. The probability of them living in base reality is close to naught. So, they are in no better predicament than us. No need to envy them.

[@sandrag8656]

Totally agree with these 3 options. The socond one might be pushed forward, if you give 2-3g of magic mushrooms to every person over the age of 20, in a nature enviroment (forest), Including one week holiday after this in the nature enviremont. This may be repeated every year...

[@mojojeinxs9960]

Keeping a journal for my grandchildren. Writing down everything going on now so when they are adults can read it. Family history going back to what my great grandmother told me about her growing up with out electricity and a pump well coal stove. Nurses aid during the pandemic never got covid. My grandparents survived never getting the Spanish flu. Omg Led Zeppelin. Attended a Grateful Dead show. Writing everything in cursive.

[@toohappy5305]

dont write it in cursive it'll be too difficult to read 😞

[@Mike-ne7py]

They don't even teach kids how to ewrite they're own signature and they took writing class out as well 😒

[@belliott88]

I wish I had a head that would look that good bald. If I ever lose my hair i’m screwed.

[@jordontaylor7401]

The hair on my hairline has gone thin so this is what i have to look forward to

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Not only is hair transplants cheap and easy to do nowadays, minoxidil and finasteride are also pretty effective in regrowing a little bit of the hair you have left and keeping it.

[@jordontaylor7401]

Im in very early stages of hair loss im not even thining at the crown its weird i can shampoo my hair leave it to air dry and it looks not bad but give it a day or 2 and the texture changes completely and goes very dry and thin at the hairline cant even style my hair how i used to i want to get on finasteride but worry about the side effects

[@nathanhensn8717]

@@jordontaylor7401 I know we're all different as humans ect ect ect, but that shit is poison, especially to me. It's honestly better to get in physical shape and then go bald. Or get into good shape while going bald. If you're already in shape then don't worry about it. You CAN'T be really fat and bald. Going bald is only a big deal if you're terribly fat or EXTREMELY fugly. You not having confidence about your head will destroy you 10X more than what women think of bald heads. Get in shape, go bald, and act like you don't give a fuck. Everything else will fall in align.

[@Matthewsoftball]

Me too!

[@german2507]

What he said at 3:00 is my literal philosophy. Could've, would've, should've, is, has, was, will be, it all becomes irrelevant in our day to day lives. All these hypothesis in the grand scheme of things, don't matter. Because we will still be here, inside the simulation or parallel universe or worm hole, dome or whatever you think the "truth" is...we are here. In the now.

[@gibs8412]

right on, so make the best of it

[@LordDirus007]

They might matter for what comes after we so called "Die" Check out the Accounts of "Near Death Experience". People describe being transported to a World that is more real than ours. That Time itself doesn't exist. I think our Creator left us Easter Eggs

[@billybrooks1]

I love it when we're see glitches in the matrix once in awhile. Like the planes that just stop in the air.

[@Birv007]

The holy grail is to understand “what is conciseness”? What a great subject 🤩

[@UpTheAnte1987]

It all ends when one of these post-human creatures trips on the power cable

[@AS-tx3fi]

@EMIL ATIĆ lol

[@WebGoonie]

The sound of water moving around your mouth, is nearly identical to the sounds you hear while under water. Is the simulation possibly recycling sound files?

[@DJShaferScott]

WebGoonie lol no it’s not I just tried it

[@Eli-jy4wm]

Shafer Miller it is

[@DoggoWillink]

There probably aren’t sound files, its not that simple. In this level of simulation there would be a physics that generates unique sounds.

[@atme365]

Just like a sea shell and the ocean

[@palmerrobertson4234]

I do hear dat

[@zacharyzoet3046]

Actually, one of the aspects of consciousness that is very grounding despite the rarified argument of Bostrom is the sensation of pain (Chalmers 1996). Pain (and suffering) differentiates our personal experiences from those of others in a way that joy, happiness, excitement, and other emotions cannot. Simulating pain and suffering seems very cruel and unbecoming of super intelligent beings, IMHO. Like, who, why, how would one simulate delayed onset muscle soreness, for example?

[@karenbrojakowski731]

Great point!!! I agree with you.

[@abhishekchavhan2018]

you lift heavy weights to build muscles. every inventor tests his inventions.

[@nasovsko]

I developed the simulation theory back in early 2000s... Right after I've watched The Matrix.

[@ihikealone]

If my brain is a simulation I must have done something really horrible to derserve the one I'm in...

[@Featherless1]

Those who live in the past are depressed. Those who live in the future are anxious. But those who live in the present are at peace... 😉

[@ronray3293]

He "came up" with this idea right around 2000... Matrix released in 1999. What a brain teaser...

[@blindeyesurgeon6576]

He came up with the "argument" for the theory. Matrix was a movie. Also matrix was not the first to pose this idea or theory. Its been around far longer than you would expect. But the "argument" of it being a valid possibility and the actual discussion or debate surrounding this theory, was started by him. As he says.

[@Weewoo12309]

Plato - algorithm of the cave

[@blindeyesurgeon6576]

@@Weewoo12309 *allegory ;)

[@definitiveentertainment1658]

Ivory Birchman algae*

[@floristkurt3052]

Matrix and ice back in 1999

[@dustinshows2908]

Great interview. Joe is #1. Incredible. Thank you joe

[@ryanneff9103]

It kind of just hit me a day ago when I had a dream of being on a plane, however it actually went longer than normal before I woke up, I actually felt so Into the dream that I was able to look out the windows and see a near perfect view, whole time I knew I was scared of it crashing which it did eventually drop into the water when I awoke, but this is the very same idea to me, when I was dreaming it felt so real and yet I was in control somehow, to throw out the simulation idea is pretty closed minded

[@danielhedrick5643]

That's lucid dreaming

[@BlurryZurry]

​@@danielhedrick5643I lucid dream just about every night.

[@Secularexpansion9]

Okay Donnie Darko

[@infinitemonkey917]

Every time in history has been the most interesting time.

[@chromersv]

Helios think about all of history, kinda hard to think this time is not exponentially unique

[@futurez12]

@@chromersv It's hard to think about that for _us_ because it's _our_ time; we're living it. Fast forward x number of years and they'll be saying exactly that about _their_ time; possibly a time where computers are like primitive stone age tools. Speaking of which, you can bet your ass that they were thinking they were the shit when they discovered fire for the first time; that was a "unique" time, if ever there was one. Don't fall into that trap of thinking _your_ time is _the_ time to be alive; it most definitely isn't.

[@josephb4981]

@@futurez12 to me , the actual trap is thinking your time ISNT the time to be !

[@siemik]

not in the context of simulation

[@westganton]

"6/10" -IGN

[@beaconterraoneonline]

For third scenario, some simulations would be running simulations within a simulation ... and those simulations could be running simulations, and on and on. In that nested set of simulations, if one of those was astonishingly clever such that none of the downstream simulations could figure out they are simulations, we are stuck.

[@richb2752]

Joe I love when you asked....What percentage of your overall thought toward simulation do you really believe you are living in. Perfect