[For Honor] Gladiator Is Weak C TIER AT BEST, Buff Or What

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[@stuartmccleary]

I think Glad’s biggest issue is all his attacks are pokes instead of slashes. So in team fights he’s instantly weaker than other characters.

[@Monkey_business450]

You can’t slash with tridents

[@stuartmccleary]

@@Monkey_business450 I’m just stating a why. I’m not saying he should have a slash or anything more than his attacks are pokes so he’s limited

[@majula1518]

@@Monkey_business450yes that’s what he said

[@Monkey_business450]

@@stuartmccleary alr

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

​@@Monkey_business450i mean, the chain heavy is basically a slash lol +some heads have some blade edge points

[@dawidwidera1819]

...and gladiator has the best voice actor.

[@amanzul3579]

INCREDIIIBILIIIIIIS

[@HitokiriShin]

@@amanzul3579That‘s not Gladiator duhh

[@Imari-Tard]

No

[@Dunmaghlas]

ÉG RÍF YKKUR Í BITA

[@lukegarner7217]

5:47 "hes gonna light me here" **dies to 4 consecutive heavy reads** CERTIFIED FOR HONOR MOMENT

[@ethanpeeples6187]

As much as i would love to see a glad buff or rework. Seeing what they did to LB nah im good.

[@xKnightAFx]

Fr

[@gbhrd7385]

I don’t think I’ve ever agreed to a for honor statement as much as this

[@Kroda-]

They just need to buff him. He doesn't need an entire rework. If they could make his deflect break through hyper armor and give him atleast some bit of hyper armor he wouldn't be overshadowed by the entire roster. It's so unfair that one of the coolest characters in the game sucks

[@tehtanooki6429]

10:35 I love how Misty gave us the most hype and quietest "YES!!!" I've ever heard.

[@LunaNakahara]

imo glad is one of the coolest/unique characters in for honor, sure he’s a noob stomper but he struggles in higher levels of play, I don’t mind him being mid in team fights since he’s a great ganker which seems like a fair trade off, although maybe the hitbox/speed of chain side heavy’s could be increased to compensate, I’d like to see the old version of skewer return (where you could get more ticks of bleed off before throwing/get a forward dodge light but I see why it was removed) + having his deflect interrupt hyper armor + maybe speeding up his forward dodge bash, a change that could be cool is him having the same interaction as Valkyrie where if he deflects an external attack he can hit who ever he’s locked onto (My bad if these are some L takes just some ideas that came to mind)

[@Kroda-]

No these are w takes. Wish the devs could read this. All they care about is how op they can make new flavorless heroes

[@matthedipper5138]

I like the way glad is. I really wish there was a mode specifically for the original move sets to be honest. Being a beta player playing now after a couple years it’s like completely a different game… ( VALK IS UNPLAYABLE )

[@uncagedzebra6941]

Fr man I stopped playing soon after Shaman came out because I felt the new characters just had many more tools at their disposal.

[@sagepika-7682]

If you think valk is unplayable then your obv bad

[@matthedipper5138]

@@sagepika-7682 from PS to now Xbox my overall rep is approximately 600 to mid 600’s highest ever rank was master. Old valk was absolutely superior to the new one.

[@unowr79]

@@matthedipper5138 Imma have to disagree with you on this one. Valk is definitely not unplayable.

[@jilliebean6312]

Same Conq is bad now

[@shadowandtwins]

I wish glad had some attacks involving the back of his trident, some sort of other bash or something or extra zone. He does enough damage but has nearly no guaranteed damage. I think hes the only character where his bash does give him even a light

[@GankScythe]

i can only imagine the first guy kept saying GO GO, as a different way of saying "GG"

[@lchen5319]

last round vs beserker misty was edging us big time

[@ThaStavo]

Everyone says his toestabs are reactable but ive never once been able to react to it. Sometimes i can dodge early if i think its coming but never have been able to dodge it seeing startup

[@jessejanga]

KingMisty... frequent poopsterbater guy, that guy.

[@MrMauistang66]

Sir Misty, I never copied your glad fashion till this load out. You’ve really gone s tier fashion ❤

[@Big-guns94]

Honestly I think he should just get doge recovery and have the ability to interrupt hyper armor with deflects

[@Big-guns94]

Perhaps soft feint the scure into gb

[@unowr79]

@@Big-guns94 It’s “skewer” but yeah I agree those are both things I’ve complained about. People just dodge attack out of skewer cancel gb, he should definitely have that instant cancel into gb. And the fact that hyper armor pushes your skewer back and they get a free gb is stupid. Deflecting a highlander or berserker heavy should not punish you. As soon as you fight someone with hyper armor, your options become more limited than they already are. His best start for pressure is a heavy feint, light risks parry, toestab risks sidestep gb and zone honestly takes all your stamina.

[@Big-guns94]

@@unowr79 yea it’s like half his move set gets removed against hyper armor and thanks for the grammar correction 🤓😂

[@Sk1mp16]

While I agree that glad should not be punished for landing a deflect on hyper armor, Skewer does not need to soft feint into guard break. Dodge attacks should always beat feint into guard break because it gives more options in the face of the dreaded orange attacks. This game needs more options, not less.

[@unowr79]

@@Sk1mp16 Ofc they should but for honor doesn’t have equality among all characters, a lot of characters have gb mix that interrupts sidestep attack so it just feels really bad when a character misses out on so much including that.

[@matter187]

Just want my deflects to not bounce off of armor

[@sirius_solaris]

My biggest complaint with glass is that his main mix-up ‘win-con’ being his skewer, isn’t even a true mix-up. The feint and commit have really different animations making it easy to react to if you learn it. Oh, and also the fact that his deflect skewer can be ‘reacted’ to via hyperarmour… which only about 90% of heroes now have due to horrible reworks and whatnot…

[@viperia9357]

Glad needs a few tweaks as QOL but he’s definitely viable (glad main btw)

[@XSAPredict0001]

Trying to learn mnk on pc or should I just stick to controller(there's alot of input delay) also any tips for that?

[@fivethedevil732]

The KZbinr Freeze has a lot of good info on that you should look him up :]. He goes in proper depth about I put delay and the pros and cons of MNK vs controller

[@climactic1428]

Have you tried keeping your controller plugged in? I have been experiencing the same issue and one way to at least make my games playable is by having it plugged in. ( I'm on PS5 and this is the only game giving me input delay )

[@XSAPredict0001]

yes I have tried but even on console light parrys are almost impossible, and now especially on pc the delay forces me to parry on red if I want one.

[@climactic1428]

Then YES, I would recommend trying M&K to see if it makes a difference for you. I don't know much about it so I suggest watching any FH player that plays M&K and has done guides to get you started on settings etc.

[@ryuhadouken2722]

All gladiator needs is a top heavy or just heavy undodgeable finisher.

[@seanbridge3741]

Maybe they can make the bash more useful idk it’s pretty bad.

[@MikeHoliday]

I wish Glad had a bit more bash game with his shield jab.

[@Merihx]

that was me the first two matches, never knew I’d come across my glorious queen in this game

[@baneandeddu8115]

LOVE IT

[@JustBlaze777-ic8sw]

He needs an anti-gank buff like the other assassins. It’s bad enough he moves slow as hell when running/in combat in addition to the fact that he EASILY takes damage when in team fights. He doesn’t have eye frame advantage like shinobi nor hyper armor like berserker so he seriously needs a rework to at least make him a formidable teammate to have and able to hold his own during antiganks

[@Sam_Hyde_Apologist]

Glad only struggles against reaction monsters, his UB heavy and deflect do 38 damage! His toe poke is one of the strongest moves for interrupting attacks. He has a 400 ms top light, a pretty safe zone and the strongest out of stam pressure. Hes note top tier but hes far from bad. Hes fine guys

[@Szeps_]

Misty your voice is so deep and sigma 🥺

[@braindead3806]

I want him buffed so bad but I also worry ubi would just take all the fun away from him idk man

[@mgc_7606]

They should add more speed and movesets to glad.

[@sepronlayden5189]

Honestly I think its just a skill issue of most of the playerbase. No one wants to work hard for their Damage and glad has to do a lot to get some good damage, but once he's in the zone he got a solid duel game. I don't think every hero should be able to fight off everyone on the enemy team all the time. That being said, his side dodge bashes, and forward dodge bash need something. His dodge attack could be changed in some way to make it better for hitting around him, and I think his zone should be changed to either have the swing come out first or just into a swing so he can peel people gathering around him like vultures. Edit: Also its super BS that roch's deflect got the ignore armor property when Glad needs that so much more then that stupid weeb character ever needed. Like for Glad it would make sense but Roch doesn't need all this extra crap when he's already s tier when he forward dodges

[@Pablo.Romano98]

He needs recovery dodge cancels

[@mrs.jellie]

Misty we love you!!! 😘🔱

[@eddvo6641]

Misty been around Havoks mmr to get this big hit of copium or wut ;) Personally i think Glad is super strong in duels and got plenty of options.

[@ertrte2075]

Tier list-reliant

[@mohamedshaltoot2216]

Definitely he needs an urgent buff

[@ScarletDream21]

Gladiator does not need a rework more than Nuxia

[@sagepika-7682]

If you even consider playing nuxia you need to delete the game cuz your obv bad

[@ScarletDream21]

@@sagepika-7682 I got Nuxia up to rep 15 before the ccu so I'm far from a bad player 😆

[@daddysnfoor]

@@sagepika-7682 bro stfu ypu go in every comment saying "if your this you obv bad" even tho you're inferior gameplay wise

[@unowr79]

Yes he does because he’s more important for the game. Way more people enjoy gladiator than nuxia. Preferably they both get reworked though. But I hope they don’t make the characters busted and give them the conqueror treatment. They don’t need a feintable side step bash that gives a free light, they don’t need unblockable chain lights. I hate when they don’t try to fix the characters core problem and just give them everything in existence.

[@xXXx-nh2cf]

Glad is really good in 4v4 right now hes kinda like nobu not good in 1v1 but good in 4v4 and the devs balance around 4v4 more so yeah he will probebly not get a buf any time soon

[@fivethedevil732]

Ill be honest with you my dear King of the Mist.. i think Glad feels old because you know him in and out. Through most of this video you naturally adapted to just about everyone you fought with your different dodge attacks, and smexy mix-ups. Unless you find a really damn good player you usually shred people with his heavy bleeds, double heavy punishes, and your love for toes. Just to be clear i like glad, i just dont think hes as low as you say good sir.

[@Kroda-]

Lol really 💀 bro doesn't even play the game

[@UpperRobin29]

If they wanted to make the bash deal like 20-25 damage I'd be cool with that

[@unowr79]

Im ngl damaging bash would help but definitely not 20 damage bruh.

[@UpperRobin29]

@@unowr79 Insta-knockout where he punches so hard the opponent goes flying

[@unowr79]

@@UpperRobin29 Now that’s more like it

[@UpperRobin29]

@@unowr79 Wait a minute I just realized... That's Centurion's punch

[@unowr79]

@@UpperRobin29 Yeah it is. How about we 1 up it then. INSTA KO PUNCH

[@danestambaugh255]

Glad buffs/nerfs Deflect now breaks armor. Damage reduced to 25 (from 38) In chain skewer is now 700ms (down from 800-900ms, not sure how fast it is atm) its a single target UB that pins and gives access to a throw. At 700ms, it's a really strong gank and 1v1 tool, but it has lower damage as a result. Remove forward dodge bash, forward dodge bash is replaced by toestab and is 500ms 300-500ms input. Makes the bash actually do damage and be a threat, can chain on whiff like chain toestab. Forward dodge light is 500ms (from 600ms) and is enhanced, damage is 12 (from 15) Remove stam pause from toestab (as much as i like it, no stam pause should exist in the game imo) Zone speed increases to 800ms, and the first AND second parts are feintable. Damage increased to 18 (from 14] Think this would give glad a more unique offensive plan while keeping his identity of a ganker and isolater that revolves around bashes, pinning UB's, and slippery defense while also giving him much more threatening neutral and chain pressure

[@iskabar1337]

Most of those are really good, but zone thing is complete bs. Glad's zone is already one of the best in the game and is unpunishable by certain characters (warden and warmonger dodge bash doesn't come fast enough to beat the followup attack) and you want to make a 500ms bash feintable? That's too much. Forward dodge light sounds useful at lower levels and team fights, but on decent levels it's gonna be parried 9 times out of 10, so i don't know about that. I agree with the hyper armor thing though, and since it is 25 dmg, it should probably be 15 bleed and 10 raw (like pk), since no assassin gets more than 22 raw damage on deflect (except berserker because Ubisoft)

[@danestambaugh255]

@@iskabar1337 No, I want to make Glads zone 800ms (up from 600ms) and can be hard fainted BEFORE the initial bash hits you. It would function a lot like Afeera neutral bash. Being a really strong tool to force reactions with the drawback being it uses a lot of stamina.

[@iskabar1337]

@@danestambaugh255 it would seem i lack eyes and didn't see the 800ms thing, my bad

[@danestambaugh255]

@@iskabar1337 you're good, dude. I also don't think what I put is perfect. It was a very rough in the moment spreadsheet of suggestions. I honestly think gladiator needs an animation overhaul on some moves. Skewer specifically bc at high level people are pretty good at choice reacting skewer. I would hope a speed up would make it better as I can't think of any 700ms feintable unblockables, but who knows.

[@iskabar1337]

@@danestambaugh255 I think the problem is glad is just outdated and lost his identity as a (kinda) stamina bully. Imo he is the only assassin that doesn't really feel like assassin. The only way to buff him would be to either bring back his stamina pressure (probably really unfun) or implement changes you just listed, I actually like them a lot. And for the love of god, Ubi needs to do something about his bash riposte, it is probably the most useless thing in the game

[@brendanz1442]

Give gladiator a net with hooks. Fuck it lol

[@Imae08I]

I love glad, its like playing 2019 for honor... exept everyone else is in 2024 💀

[@jax3202]

Hi Misty! Love ur content! Please don’t diddle children! 💕

[@jayso1]

Glad is S-Tier in duels. He could use an undodgeable attack to get a buff in team fights.

[@unowr79]

Glad is absolutely not S-Tier in duels he has nothing to force a response skewer is easily reactable because it can’t be late canceled and toestab you get gb’d if you miss, same with side step bash. He has no neutral options. Also hyper armor pushes skewer back and the opponent gets a free gb, well if they have hyper armor they are probably throwing a heavy anyway. Point is you get punished for deflecting a berserker or highlander light/heavy if they do a chain heavy. No other character in the game gets punished for deflecting. It’s retarded. Instead of saying random stuff and putting glad in S-Tier because a glad hit you with 5 toestabs, you should play the character and learn his interactions so you understand. It’s not as easy as you think at all.

[@jayso1]

@@unowr79 That's a read. You can still deflect for defense and not throw the stab if its a hyper armor attack. You could also not deflect and throw the unblocable dodge attack to stop the hyper armor attack. His zone is a great opener with a feintable to GB option, and so is feint heavy toe stab, or feint heavy dodge attack to unblocable stab with the option to feint and GB. He is an unblocable menace. His game is defensive and bait based, not the most entertaining tactic, especially in this meta. You just need a lot of patience when using him.

[@changeisunexpected]

You make him S tier though 😅

[@vaderggs]

12:57 anyone know how to do this bash with glad?

[@levigarrett9343]

When you’re sprinting click heavy then guard break

[@levigarrett9343]

I should also say you can’t do the bash if the heavy lands on an opponent

[@Al-aabir]

Rework? No. But maybe a buff would do it.

[@unowr79]

He needs a single move to fix his problem either undodgeable chain heavies or make his bash drain stamina without parry. He doesn’t need a full kit rework I agree.

[@betrayeddarkness7916]

Make his heavy finishers un dodgeable then he’s looking like sum

[@xavierjohnson2597]

I’d like to see something more unique instead of the “bandage treatment” of undodgeables

[@seanmacguire8148]

his heavy finishers are already undodgeable if you time them right

[@unowr79]

@@seanmacguire8148 By “time them right” you mean delay them, but the thing is if you delay them you can get lighted out of them.

[@FedorvonBockenheim7597]

Lawbringer first

[@moweman839]

Glad doesn't need anything. He's already a well known noob crusher character with how his mix-ups flow

[@gigachubby142]

Hes one of the most reactable heroes

[@ryansherby5678]

His kit is terrible dude

[@coolingindaboot6853]

Against most people he works but at the higher levels hes useless, they need to make is toe stab a forward dodge bash and speed up skewer then he would be good at the higher lvls

[@Imae08I]

​@@coolingindaboot6853 Hell no. I think toe stab is just fine bro. Imo he needs his deflects to stop hyper armor (as Orochi). And about his shield bashes... it used to drain stamina and blind... now neither, maybe one of those should come back. But any of the above will make him stronger in team fights... Because right now the meta is to recovery dodge while external attacking thats why orochi is so strong right now

[@Kroda-]

Yeah, "noob crusher" that's it. Once you get good at the game he sucks. There is no reason he should be this bad when there are characters like afeera in the game

[@liquidglitch1244]

Glad is ass but he’s so cheap against inexperienced players lol, and even against experienced if glad somehow gets you outta stam he can be a bit scarier

[@Morbysrising]

Gladiator is too OP needs a Nerf buff is needed for Raider

[@technoboyo5143]

Glad has crazy good unblockable pressure. The change they made to be able to chain into heavies after toe stab and the zone was enough to land him easily in A even S tier. Not to mention the out of stamina punishes have insane damage. Other assassins turn out to also be really high tier in 1s and when the matches where you just end up failing every read and losing health in the blink of an eye is just forhonor being forhonor in general. Glad is in a good spot for what the hero is supposed to be and honestly Ubis track record for knight reworks is not good so glad in terms of a strong but balanced is great where he is

[@unowr79]

Glad main here, there is a lot wrong with this comment. He really does not have good unblockable pressure. You cannot late cancel skewer so people with good reaction time never have to guess whether or not to sidestep. Toestab gives the opponent a free gb if it misses but you can always chain heavy right? Not if your opponent has a sidestep bash like conq, he gets a free light as we know as well. Skewer gets pushed back by hyper armor so you can’t deflect hyper armor at all. As soon as you match into anyone with armor your deflects instantly become useless. Lastly he’s a stamina preserver but his zone takes half of his stamina, and his only way to drain your stamina to get his huge out of stamina punish is a parry bash so if you don’t attack you don’t get your stamina pressured.

[@unowr79]

Oh yeah also his clear is garbage in dominion or breach. Play the character and I guarantee you would not think the same at all.

[@Morbysrising]

Gladiator is A tier

[@matheusbraga4716]

I think for honor should stop focusing the reworks on the "most played characters" make everyone at the same level, everyone balanced and playable without exaggerating buffs and moves. Unique characters but not overpowered. I'm sick of almost every new hero has all the moves in the game (unblock, undodge, move like a dancer, crazy damage even who is not a heavy character) this days or u play with the same sh1t or whit a shit that needs double skills to make it work.

[@Zayl1016]

Glad has the best zone and dodge options for dueling. Edit: And probably the best OOS options.

[@shaded3211]

I’ll agree with you on the out of stamina options part, but the rest is not correct at all. The zone is good, but it’s very easy to react to and a lot of dodge attacks can either dodge the follow up after the initial bash, or are faster than Glad can feint into parry

[@rezzonanc]

glad is broken hero its only one guy who can win the round never press the attack button, only bashes and guardbreaks

[@Pub123456]

Bro zoned last round vs bers no honor

[@Diddy_YT_]

If you think glad feels bad or like he’s missing something just wait until you play griffon

[@BowlOfStainlessSoup]

Glad should stay were he his because nobody actually enjoys fighting him

[@wolverinex8330]

Talkin about lower tiers, they’ve massacred Conq and Lawbringer… Nuxia? They left her BEHIND in salted earth

[@theonlykil3582]

Buff raider instead

[@bauk8754]

Glad is A-

[@unowr79]

You’re tweaking 😂

[@dalton3762]

Remove the toe stab. Give him something less annoying to fight against and funner to actually do. Also please buff conqs damage like 2 damage lol. Id put glad in A category

[@Al-aabir]

For real 😂 conq takes an hour to get a kill in dominion.

[@unowr79]

There is no way yall believe his toestab needs to go and then conquerer damage needs to be buffed. Then say gladiator is in A tier? You definitely don’t play glad you’re a conq player, that’s why you’re complaining about toestab and putting glad in A.

[@CornbreadEarll]

Glad is super good be quiet