Forbidden Fashion in Paris | States of Undress

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Hailey travels to France to explore the recent rise in Islamophobia and how it's affecting the way Muslim women dress.
This video was originally published by VICE in 2017.
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@PurpleFlowers-b1n 17 күн бұрын

I don’t understand why people think we are forced to wear hijab or nikab? As a Muslim 24 years old I’m so proud and happy with my hijab and I feel soooo comfortable wearing it since I was 11 years old 😊

@shaquilleoatmeal7389 8 күн бұрын

im also a muslim and i agree, but there are people who force others to wear it. in islam, this isn't permissible since they aren't wearing it of their own will, but sadly, people will always twist islam into whatever the wish and impose it on others.

@ayeshak6822 6 күн бұрын

It's funny that they see it as men controlling women to cover up. Which doesn't make sense. If anything, men would naturally want women to show more skin for their viewing pleasure, not less.

@orinva2410 6 күн бұрын

many girls kinda feel like forced into this...maybe you dont feel it that way but try to remove it for a while and see your relatives reaction when this gesture of your free will becomes expectation by others to continue wearing it.

@shaquilleoatmeal7389 6 күн бұрын

@@orinva2410 the thing is, it's an obligation. so for others to expect you to follow it is pretty normal, as long as they aren't forcing you to do it. i get that people feel forced to, but then it is something that you are required to follow as a muslim; it isn't a choice whether you'll wear it or not (as in, it is mandated by Allah), rather a choice as to whether you'll follow that ruling or not

@PurpleFlowers-b1n 6 күн бұрын

@@orinva2410 It seems that you also did not understand the meaning of the hijab. We wear the hijab to please and obey God, not for our families. The hijab is an obligation for women. It is in the Islamic religion and not from customs and traditions. Whoever believes that removing the hijab and not wearing it is openness or freedom, this is ignorance in itself.

@vincienzo 10 ай бұрын

"French people love interacting with each other. You can be at a bakery talking with a stranger. We love that. If someone is wearing a very pronounced religious garment, I may not want to talk to them." Davy Rodríguez, that sounds like a you problem. If you are so French and proud to be French and your own definition of being French consists of wanting and being able to talk to anyone, then you should be able to overcome *your own* prejudice about that person and talk with them.

@naomilowkey6404 10 ай бұрын

🎯🎯🎯

@lagoongirl5360 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂is threatening and violent not modest at least show your face if you want to be part of a society why hide like thief

@hansmemling2311 9 ай бұрын

I think you misunderstand the problems that are fundamentally behind this ban.

@tondriasanders6306 9 ай бұрын

Listening to these young people I was struck by the fact that it’s only a social conflict because people are choosing for it to be that way. French people are choosing to be in conflict with Muslim woman. Who cares if the person you’re talking to in line at the cafe is wearing a headscarf, cross, or giant sliver belt buckle? Would you choose to not speak to a person if they were wearing a cross or belt buckle too? All three represent something different. The ardent insistence on conformity to a specific law enforcing what a person can wear and how they should look feels VERY fascist. Didn’t France have to be liberated from the Nazi’s?

@hansmemling2311 9 ай бұрын

@@tondriasanders6306 this documentary focused on clothing alone because this lady that presents it makes content around clothing. Although clothing is forbidden it's more symbolic than the only reason. There are more motivations behind the ban, the hijab is just the face of these problems.

@MarieM1517 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for doing this! I am French, and I am so fed up with that! Seriously, we brought back known terrorists in France and we're trying to argue that the hijab is a problem! The hijab has nothing to do with terrorism! And do not tell other women what they should be feeling about their attire! The problem is our illogical politics that are creating a terrible environment in France. Hijab is not an issue. 🤦‍♀

@FernandoTorrera 11 ай бұрын

Your right it’s mostly niqabi women grooming teens to be extremists.

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

If the hijab is not an issue, than those families that make it an issue can go somewhere else.

@aderyn548 10 ай бұрын

Colonialism it was and is perhaps?

@tondriasanders6306 9 ай бұрын

I like your statement. The politicians are being illogical and that is what is causing the problems. Stop telling people what to wear and what to think because that is the problem.

@lukasmoskit3406 9 ай бұрын

You're a migrant

@0091iii 20 күн бұрын

And now they banned long dresses in school. Not just long dresses but some girl wore just a long blouse with a large pant and they kicked her out from school

@farimahkarimi6549 14 күн бұрын

At this point they just want people naked, what do you mean they ban blouse ?that's scary how is that a nice secular move , it feels weird.

@suniannian1623 6 күн бұрын

What? 💀

@Lostouille 3 күн бұрын

@@suniannian1623 fake news ...

@maryyam123 2 күн бұрын

@@Lostouille its not

@Lostouille 2 күн бұрын

Proof

@lilbees2618 9 ай бұрын

Wow. I’m totally floored. Each episode is so relevant especially in light of the world today in 2024. This production of this is so amazing. I wish it could be shown in its entirety to a wider range of viewers. Hailey Benson Gates is incredible. Thank you so much for this series.

@jpadan2172 Ай бұрын

I have no reply,covering up at the beach can save you from skin cancer, there I did really thank you

@Wandering.Homebody 4 күн бұрын

@@jpadan2172yeah, this one is just bizarre overreach. I m a snow white atheist lady who is prone to sunburnand who likes to swim, and the notion of a burkini seems rather appealing to me, on these grounds.

@MsGoldenEra 10 ай бұрын

I don't understand the thought process of the people on that beach. She isn't forcing anyone to dress differently just because she is dressed differently. THEY are the ones trying to make her change to suit them when it's not their business what one wears

@Jtx620 21 күн бұрын

What can I say.Karens come in all shapes and forms.

@tula1433 14 күн бұрын

If you wore a mini skirt in Saudi Arabia or Iran do you think they would be welcoming and friendly? Is it only wrong when Europeans judge?

@farimahkarimi6549 14 күн бұрын

@@tula1433 you won't have the problem in Saudi, and Iran and Afghanistan are the only 2 countries out the 60 Muslim country

@veroniquelauzon2801 14 күн бұрын

@@tula1433is it France goal to have the freedom standard of saudi arabia?

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

@@tula1433so France wants to be like those dictatorships? 😂 I thought they were a democracy

@mikahist4155 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this warm documentary. Your little kiss on her head meant the world for her and it will stay with her for a lifetime. 💛

@Zeynepalina Жыл бұрын

Being a woman is hard, but the worst thing is that there are other women who don't support you.

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

The west wants woman to be objects and sell there body's and have one night stands no families anymore. Any woman who has honour and respect for herself will cover even in the west a few years ago woman covered because those are Good woman. Islam honours woman and the west uses them like dolls that's why the west is falling because they left God and traditional values

@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 Жыл бұрын

Those are called the pick me’s of society and boy do they get on my nerves

@yureituesday Жыл бұрын

When you see a sister who has been brainwashed, supporting her looks like a rescue mission, you don’t stay silent and join them

@Zeynepalina Жыл бұрын

@@yureituesday You can be sure that I'll stand behind women in all circumstances not just with muslim womans dear Yurei or what ever your name, i hope one day we will wash your brain with beauty and freedom too about everything.I feel really excited about that,have a nice day.Andd if you have any questions, you can ask, i will answer. As a result, we'll get through by talking.

@MsSilentsiren 11 ай бұрын

Women don't support women. It's every chick for herself in this world.

@lucemoon4370 10 ай бұрын

As someone from the UK, it’s unbelievable there is an actual law, preventing women from wearing what they want to wear. Whether it’s a religious expression or not.

@梨-i5l Ай бұрын

We nearly had the same. I was a kid post 9/11 in school hearing my teacher discuss practising terrorism/bomb drills- all whilst celebrating the Queen's golden Jubilee. Islamaphobia was huge in the early 2000s, which of course also spilled over to Shiks and other non-white british groups. Other such fun from that time was the brand new windows 95 ICT suite and my teachers debating with Wikipedia that Mexicans spoke "mexican" and not Spanish. The internet can be a curse but the ease of information we have nowadays can be a blessing!

@joannemcmillan9201 29 күн бұрын

Imagine you could say Mexicans speak Mexican Spanish, much like Americans speak American English. Yeah, I’m going with that!☺️

@梨-i5l 29 күн бұрын

@@joannemcmillan9201 Sadly they definitely meant Mexican as a separate language entirely. I was 6 and sat next to the teachers as one pointed to Wikipedia and went "It says they speak Spanish." The other: "What?! I thought they spoke Mexican."

@KeriElaineOfficial 10 ай бұрын

This deserves sooo many more views, people really need to get over their fear and ignorance. It's wild how much we still allow society to control the actions of women use trying to exist and spend so little time policing actual violet criminals. Thank you so much for sharing, I wish more people were forced to face their ignorance and could use ask questions and educate themselves without being aggressive.

@TheseStreetsReports 6 ай бұрын

All of her videos are incredible

@tula1433 14 күн бұрын

If you went to a Muslim country in a low cut top and mini skirt do you think you’d be warmly welcomed ?

@KeriElaineOfficial 14 күн бұрын

@tula1433 Considering this documentary was about France and how Muslim women are received, there that is what my comment referenced. I think it's sad the girls had to remove their religious coverings before attending school. It dismisses their choice to practice their religion and is ironically a form of control. When you travel to a Muslim country there are many rules you need to follow and respect, including no pda. As a sign of respect and a way to prevent yourself from being persecuted. So like many people Muslim countries are not on my top list to travel to.

@luvlr2447 12 күн бұрын

@@tula1433 but those countries dont describe themselves as countries of freedom, right ?

@Auudubillahi 7 күн бұрын

@@tula1433stupid comment. Of the 60 or so muslim countries only abot 3 would care about bikini. This isnt a secret. We live in the age of information. No excuse to be ignorant and uninformed

@lafillenoir 10 ай бұрын

I appreciated this video, women should be allowed dress as they feel comfortable. It saddened me especially to see the woman on her local beach trying to enjoy a swim and people (mostly women) borderline harassing her. There were women topless on the beach, but no matter what you wear you will receive inappropriate comments from people. Why are people offended by their modesty? People are making a lot of assumptions based on a style of clothing, we should be practising respect and openness. We all come from different cultural backgrounds.

@NabiHamada 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate your comment, in theory there's partial truth to the fact that a lot of women - practically- have no choice but to wear such garments and it's sad but to harass people and limit their freedoms or use draconian laws to force them one way and to single them out certainly won't result in anything good! France always had a serious racism/discrimination problem since its colonial days it always viewed others as 'lesser' and instead letting people thrive (through creating fair and equitable socio-economic conditions) they created a large mess!!!

@mchjsosde Ай бұрын

Offended by modesty... Exactly.

@bernardlevrier8977 Ай бұрын

Parler de « modestie » quand on parle d’un vêtement fait pour être remarqué dans l’espace public, pour être la vitrine et le porte-étendard d’une certaine idéologie, c’est inapproprié. Afficher sa modestie est l’inverse de la modestie.

@michelinep1892 Ай бұрын

What does colonialism and racism have to do with secularism? A law that is enacted applies to everyone without exception and to all religions. If some people want to live outside societal norms, that is their choice. They can choose to live in a Muslim country to fully practice their religion. France does not hold them back.

@fiqhonomics Ай бұрын

@michelinep1892 secularism is absolutely shoving one way of life down everyone's throat, which is par for the course for the French who are inherently incapable of tolerance. My French ancestors fled to South Africa because Catholics were burning Protestants in town squares. The joke though is that secularists think they are open minded but they are just as totalitarian as their forebears. Secularism is just the state religion du jour.

@user-ge6jb4hm2o 10 ай бұрын

I used to war hijab between the ages of 16 and 29. I don't want to get too deep into my story, but I wasn't forced- but a complicated cocktail of personal and political issues made me feel like I would cease to exist if I didn't wear it. partly due to islamophobia and racism it took me years to admit to myself that I wasn't even religious anymore and that the racism I was facing due to it made me suffocate. It took me getting to a personal low and going to a therapist to unravel this. What I want to say is- a ban would not have helped me. Even the choice to stop wearing the hijab didn't feel free. I was so removed from my own feelings (tbf due to many other factors as well) that in my mind if I took it off I would be caving into and supporting islamophobic narratives. I was never forced to wear it. In fact my father opposed me when I first wanted to wear it when I was 12. I am not saying this to discredit narratives of women who wear the hijab out of true conviction. I am just saying islamophobia turns the hijab into a political statement and by doing that they are harming the girls they claim they want to save. It's just hypocrisy.

@vanessashimoni6548 Ай бұрын

@@user-ge6jb4hm2o Islamophobia? Do you mean people in the West who have no interest in accepting sharia and Islam objecting to this foreign ideology being imposed on them?

@zaradaoua5490 Ай бұрын

Most women from Gen Z and after where not force to wear it but wear it by their own choice. My dad also didn't want to wear it out of fear of being attacked or not being able to work. I wear it, and work with it.

@Myamirah Ай бұрын

@@user-ge6jb4hm2o not only western governments politicize the hijab, Muslim rulers and clerics have been using the hijab as the primary symbol of Islam for hundreds of years - to the point where today Muslims themselves will tell you that if a Muslim woman doesn’t wear hijab she is either not really a Muslim or at the very least doomed to burn in hell because she won’t wear it.

@chrystele-fr Ай бұрын

We don’t want to save them. We just don’t want to change our culture, and legal system for them. When you are a foreigner and you arrive in a new country don’t try to impose your norms and culture upon those who welcome you. You have to make the efforts to adapt to the values and lifestyle of your new country not the reverse. If not, it’s ok and leave for somewhere else. As for you and the girls in the video, you were lucky enough to have the choice but most women don’t have this choice. They wear it because they don’t want to die.

@Myamirah Ай бұрын

How is wearing the religious clothing of one’s choice imposing one’s culture and beliefs on another person ? No one forcing you to believe what they believe or dress how they dress. Laws against wearing hijab are just as bad as laws imposing hijab. Face the fact that France’s laws against religious attire is rooted in racism and fear. And most women who wear the hijab wear it out of fear of death ? You really believe that ? I’m pretty sure you don’t have a relationship with very many Muslim women to know their motivations never mind most of the Muslim women in the world. Look inward. @@chrystele-fr

@aeolia80 Ай бұрын

As a progressive person born and raised in a heavy immigrant area in Northern California, and am now a full immigrant to France (married in, lol, I didn't fully make this decision because I'm some francophile or anything, lol), I find the anti-hijab laws to not just be super weird but to be an infringement on personal rights. These laws in some ways make it seem like they are "helping" those that are hijabi, like they are "saving" them from oppression or whatever, only they are the same type of restrictive that Islamic countries pose by forcing women to wear a hijab and/or a niqab, to me it's no different. After living here in France for 4 years and having grown up around hijabi people back in NorCal, I can tell you for sure those that are wearing hijab are doing it because they choose to do it, point blank, I knew hijabi women back in NorCal that didn't fully practice their religion but wore the hijab for cultural practices to be more in touch with their culture. And recently here in France when they made that law that abaya couldn't be worn at school I was so confused, like, it's not even a muslim garment, it's strictly cultural, so to me that's racist, because it's limiting a culture. I personally don't agree with conservative lifestyles and religions, I grew up in one, I know what it can be like, how toxic it can be, but to make laws preventing expression, whether religious or not, no, I can't abide. And in honesty, the banning of certain garments (I've never seen a nun be turned away for wearing full veil in France by the way, lol) is a small picture to the much bigger picture that has to do with former French colonies, especially Algeria, it's a bit too complicated to go into in this comment, and it would be like trying to salve the problems in Israel and Palestine to try to understand the relationship between France and Algeria, but yeah Oh, and as a side note, these weird laws have bled into what you can wear to a swimming pool in France, they claim it's a hygiene issue, lol, I highly doubt that, lol, like for me, skin cancer runs in my family, so if I go swimming, I have to go to an indoor pool, go for an evening swim, wear a ton of sunscreen, and/or wear a rash guard. At French swimming pools, I have yet to see one that is open for evening swims, almost all forbid the use of sunscreen in the water, and swim shorts or swim leggings and rash guards are not allowed, which also means "birkinis" are not allowed, all for the sake of pool hygiene, and maybe there is some truth to the pool hygiene thing, but honestly I feel like they mean to prevent certain people from using the pool, it's not like this has never happened in history.

@cps525i7 Жыл бұрын

I am Christian, and this video made me cry and really hurt my heart! They are masking their fear and blaming clothing when deep down it us about something else.

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

@lovinglife419 9 ай бұрын

Who is ‘they’? Genuinely confused if you’re referring to French politicians or French citizens.

@ishankohlii 27 күн бұрын

@@lovinglife419'they' in this context refers to anyone opposing the freedom to wear the hijab in france whether that be a politician or a member of the public. hope this helps 🤍

@muhlaynee Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t extend to the Hasidic or Catholic communities though. Nuns walk around wearing the same outfits.

@FernandoTorrera 11 ай бұрын

Nope not even close. Nuns wear ordinary clothes all the time. When you see a nun dressed up with her head covering she is probably going to an event. Every nuns traditional outfit is different depending on what monastery they are from. The biggest rule for nuns is they can’t wear flashy clothes and it all must be practical and durable. No they don’t need to have their head covered all the time.

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

Nuns don't throw acid at their "daughter's" faces if they decide to not wear a hijab or decide to marry someone out of the forced agreement. Big difference. Huge.

@nawalleabdennour622 10 ай бұрын

oh you again.. so we are seeing nuns with their heads covered and you are telling us that what we are seeing is not there or true? you are showing your true colours in these comments. @@FernandoTorrera

@mikidias 9 ай бұрын

@@nawalleabdennour622 Exactly! 👍🏻 Thanks! 💛 👏🏻

@marklee1960 7 ай бұрын

The Jews and the nuns DO NOT cover their faces. BIG difference. Think about it.

@aprelldiana3990 10 ай бұрын

This was so powerful. I'm happy you gave our Muslim sisters a voice. Also, how honest you were about your initial misconceptions of who these women are. I hope to see change all over the world for all those that wish to live peacefully and within their beliefs that do not directly affect others. Thanks Refinery 29 and Hailey!

@Athirahindustani Ай бұрын

But u will never get that from them

@khadijahbegum3546 Ай бұрын

Like you would know. You wasteman😂@@Athirahindustani

@adila2442 9 ай бұрын

Hippcracy is France depends on rich foreign Muslim women to buy their clothes but at the same time treat local Muslim women like 2nd class citizens.

@Ireemo1 10 ай бұрын

So much respect for the host ! Shes amazing and empathetic

@friday8370 Жыл бұрын

Clothing and expression of faith will only bring about social conflict if you A. Don’t mind your own business and B. Have zero respect or compassion required to have honest conversations and learn about other cultures.

@qytj1182 Жыл бұрын

WELL SAID 👏

@sararichardson737 11 ай бұрын

I sympathise with the catholic French so too with these girls who are devout and wish to comply with their religious modesty. France is a secular country, proudly so, and the hijab is a symbolic threat to a secular culture with the ghosts of the crusade breathing down its neck. It feels out numbered by its burgeoning ubiquity.

@ritagreenwood9397 10 ай бұрын

It was a beautiful moment to see Hailey and Natalie, both swim together in the sea. And then, we heard the jarring screams of a child on the beach, likely disturbed and traumatised by the ignorant 'complaining' woman. I do emphatically believe in the majority of cases, it is the woman's free choice to wear what she likes, but those incidents when it is not, like with the very real oppression in Iran and Afghanistan, it muddies the waters, and there is genuine concern for some. Those concerns should not be addressed with bans, but with diligent, community involved education. Multiculturalism doesn't fail, governments do when they fail to accommodate diversity in society (like purposely creating ghettos), perhaps for their post-colonial ideological agendas. Quality video, if heart-breaking at times.

@michelinep1892 Ай бұрын

There is no post-colonial agenda behind this law. Through it, France aims to avoid religious conflicts, religious interference in political life (as seen in Iran), and influence on its culture. The goal is to promote harmonious coexistence.

@mahnoorkhan7601 Ай бұрын

@@michelinep1892 lol thats why France still has colonies right?

@michelinep1892 Ай бұрын

@@mahnoorkhan7601 Could you name a French colony that still exists in 2024? Former colonies have generally gained their independence or have requested to become French through a referendum. If some former colonies that have gained independence find themselves in a difficult situation, it is not entirely the responsibility of the French. Regarding the veil, hijab, etc., this year marks 35 years since this issue emerged in the public space in France. At that time, political parties were divided. The left quickly defended the right of girls to wear the veil at school, while the right opposed it. A law was passed by an absolute majority, applying to everyone without exception and to all religions. This summer, a woman in a burkini was denied access to a pool in a hotel in Morocco or Tunisia, and she made a video to express her outrage. The issue of the veil, hijab, and burkini is not limited to France.

@mahnoorkhan7601 Ай бұрын

@@michelinep1892 Sure the major one is New Caledonia. The Indigenous Kanak communities don't want to be apart of France but because France gave voting rights to the descendants of French colonizers living there. So when there was a vote for independence the those descendants rejected independence from France while the indigenous communities want independence. And since the population of the colonizer's descendants is greater than the indigenous descendant, well, New Caledonia didn't gain its independence. So yes, France does still have a colony, New Caledonia. And that's not even going in detail with the way France still views their ex African colonies in a colonial mindset by demand their African ex colonies to put around 65% of their foreign currency reserves into the French Treasury and plus another 20% for financial liabilities. The interview in this link does a lot better job explaining it than I could so I if you want to learn more it I highly encourage you read this interview: www.cadtm.org/Africa-How-France-Continues-to-Dominate-Its-Former-Colonies-in-Africa So yes, it is the responsibility of the French because how can those African Countries be stable and prosperous when they can only keep 15% of their own money. Also, We're talking about France here not Morocco or Tunisia. In regards for it applying it to ALL religions, can you give me an example of a nun not allowed to wear their religious garment in public or in School, people aren't allowed to wear crosses. In the video, the presenter explicitly says that the same rules did not apply to the crosses they saw a couple of the school children wearing. I don't really appreciate the whatsaboutism you spewed at the end.

@innovativetechnology945 Күн бұрын

The one pretending to be speaking for women’s rights in iran and Afghanistan, are supporting women and children’s genocide in Palestine. This is how biased they are, we women choose to do niqab or hijab for our God not for men. They are just using same and same narrative to bomb Iran now, which they use for Afghanistan previously. And how much they actually care for women is crystal clear, we can see they are Killing women and children in Palestine. I am so shocked to see western people intellect, they can’t use their brains, what ever their gov told them, they believe them. Cant they see there old infrastructure, there useless health cate. They need to spend there tax money on their development neither for looting money from African countries, by bombing them and by using same and same old women card on them.

@jjk4891 Жыл бұрын

It is a very hard problem. Crazy how in some part of the world women are killed for not wearing it and at another place it is illegal wearing it. As a non-religious person, it is beyond my understanding on why it is so important that some people have to die and kill for it. But I really don’t get the ban with burkini, it seems just a practical thing for less sun exposure and less nudity for those who don’t want to show their body.

@FernandoTorrera 11 ай бұрын

Religion is borderless government. I think people in the west have forgotten this because of what our ancestors fought for. There is a reason kings were killed and churches had land and money taken it’s all about power. Democracy never would have been possible without defanging the church. Clothing is a symbol of your belief and also your ranking in that belief. Hijab is the belief women’s bodies belong to her husband. An unwrapped lollipop attracts flies something they teach little girls. You think having a bunch of women that believe they are less than is conducive to a democracy? I only disagree with a ban for burkini on the beach I wear something similar for the beach. However the way European pools work a burkini wouldn’t be sanitary. For one you are supposed to wet your whole body including hair before getting in the pool and you need a latex cap not a loose scarf so your hair doesn’t clog the pool.

@kyliepaquet 11 ай бұрын

Hijab is not based on the belief that their bodies belong to their husbands lol- it’s based on worship of god and god only. Although some may choose to wear it for that reason (that’s a minority); most women choose to wear it because of their belief in god and simply because of their love of god. Intertwined you have other benefits where you can simply be seen for what you are saying, rather than how “aesthetic” and “beautiful” you are in the eyes of others. It takes away the pressure often placed by society, especially western societies, claiming that women should wear less clothes to be deemed “beautiful” or fashionable. There’s so many reasons why Muslim women choose to wear the hijab and I will tell you for most it is a choice. In regard to your comment about burkinis in the pool, burkinis are often made of swim cap materials. It’s no different than people wearing t-shirts and swim shirts into the pools as well. You can fully wet yourself. Also, women are allowed to be naked and without hijab infront of other women so they can easily wet their hair and bodies prior to putting any bathing suit on. And then subsequently wetting their outer bathing suit after - but that’s not required.

@furtgia 10 ай бұрын

Thank god franca banned that shitty costume 🤮 hope all other countries follow, islam and muslims are fu ck ing disgusting 🤢

@mariarauf3280 10 ай бұрын

@@FernandoTorrerait’s not based on the belief that women’s bodies belong to their husbands, even if a woman never marries it still applies to her, our bodies belong to us, and covering them is an act of devotion to God

@MsBlushing24 10 ай бұрын

Big difference between something being illegal and something being punishable by death.

@claudias.3569 Жыл бұрын

As a Catholic who’s lived in France and has studied French, laïcité (meaning “lay”) makes zero sense to me; it’s Islamophobic. You say no religion and yet if you go into a city hall during Christmas, there’s a Christmas tree or nativity scene. Catholic holidays are in all planners and calendars. Yeah it’s great to see my religion represented, but that’s not being laïc. The problem is too these girls have to go to private school in order to where their hijabs, which further creates a divide.

@occasionallyemo Жыл бұрын

French democracy was founded by Judeo-Christian values. Obviously the influence of those religions will still be seen around society because it also became cultural & part of the history of France. France was never Muslim. Christian immigrants don’t move to Muslim countries & expect thd government & the people to accommodate them or their religion with laws. Whatever your belief, if you go to most Muslim countries were niqabs are forced, you can’t walk around without them simply because you are not from there. These double standards are absurd especially because it’s only expected from one side to accommodate others.

@baianyassir3627 Жыл бұрын

actually this is not true what’s so ever. christian’s move to Saudi Arabia and dubia all the time and there welcomed and there provided with there own compounds where they sell pork and alcohol. i feel like you need to pop the little bubble you live in and read a book

@jujum635 Жыл бұрын

I am a french woman and I will now leave my country, because of racism which is in all the parts of the society, even in administration, in high peak of the state, etc ... Because I am married to a foreigner - wedding in France, years in France where he worked so hard, paying taxes, giving his strenght to France somewhere - and happy to do it, he loves France. It is a shame. It is disgusting. It is direspect. It is harassment. And I am french, with my whole family is french, my whole " ancêtres ". It is sad. We are leaving our house, our friends, our jobs. Because of this racism. Because the harassment of the administration. And, after all, the gouvernement dare telling us they are feminist. Shame. Shame. Shame on my country. France has not made the work it has to do about its colonialist past.

@moveone9013 11 ай бұрын

Islamophobia, pedophileophobia or naziophobia… some things are just wrong and don’t belong to humanity

@theyb_ 11 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@occasionallyemoBut isn’t freedom of religion a constitutional right in France? For many Muslim women wearing their religious clothing is apart of that right of freedom of religion, and yet it doesn’t harm anyone and they have choice to wear it in France. You can try to compare countries but they aren’t comparative. France and many parts of Europe have ‘freedom of’ laws as constitutional rights so to oppress and restrict Muslim women is hypocritical. They see it as oppressive to wear a Hijab but then they further oppress women for wearing them… so what or who is causing the oppression here? They have choice here in Europe and we should respect that, just like they should respect our cultures. This just creates more division. Not every Muslim is a fundamentalist.

@marylynb1593 9 ай бұрын

As a Christian African I find it very interesting how the school principle is proudly wearing her traditional African wear representing her home country but yet these lovely girls cannot represent or fully practice their religion at school. Again, if they are going based of this then they should be looking for anything such as crosses etc. But we all know their motives. It’s a religion, they aren’t forcing anyone to wear them, this is how they practice their religion, their modest clothes shouldn’t be opposed. How can this be the thought process of Politicians, University students and some of the country. Insane.

@AyeofRa 11 ай бұрын

Yeah let's ignore the real issues and just ban a piece of clothing. Disgusting. I hope those beautiful young ladies achieve their dreams and they don't have to sacrifice their identity to do it!

@Weaselszone 4 ай бұрын

Too late, they already have wearing it

@Nclk619 Ай бұрын

And what is their true identity? Not saying I agree with the ban, but I also don't agree with a culture that forces them to wear a symbol of oppression and make us believe that this is who they want to be.

@candace8186 21 күн бұрын

This is a good documentary to bring light to the racial and religious injustices in France

@aqilahsyuhada Жыл бұрын

Im A Malaysian. In my country we live in harmony although our country consists of people with many religion and races. We enjoy freedom wearing whatever we want. Im a muslim and I dont feel any "imprisontment' when im wearing one. We also dont condemn other muslim woman who dont wear hijab. Its their choices to do so and we respect that

@Adriana-eu6ty 2 ай бұрын

Yes, that’s why you guys perform FGM. So much freedom.

@user-ih4gn4ij7z 19 күн бұрын

Malaysian here too, and yes French government can learn a thing or two from Malaysian Gov. Women who wear hijab because of their conviction, wanting to be close to Allah, are least likely to be a threat to any community. So, why not focus on the real criminals out there.

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

@@user-ih4gn4ij7z Malaysian islands have been occupied by so many colonisers but only Islam came through economic trade, malays then adhered to the religion firmly. After centuries of colonisation, dividing the archipelago and even implanting invaders from India and China in the country, you were able to overcome it and live harmoniously respecting even those who did wrong to you. Fan of Indonesia and Malaysia from Morocco ❤ I really think we should hate more because look how this mentality worked for us, they hate us existing, while they commit a genocide in Gaza and use their false flags T attacks to justify their islamophobic laws and support for isnotreal.

@nsljk 13 күн бұрын

Malaysian is the most tolerant country,don't forget to thank God for being born there girl🙏🏻

@nsaffini1975 8 күн бұрын

I've got several muslim teachers here in Malaysia who don't wear hijab. Nobody pressures them to don one even though the majority of their students wear it. Lol. So yes, it's a personal choice.

@lovinglife419 9 ай бұрын

Pleasantly surprised by this level of journalism from Refinery 29.

@saralenak2487 Жыл бұрын

This is my favorite series from this channel-- I LOVE that the host speaks to both sides in every video, it's very interesting.

@carineecaudmont Жыл бұрын

As a person with a French nationality, I congratulate you on this mini documentary. France is still perceived nowadays as a country of "Liberty, Equity and Fraternity" however, many laws and practices go against those beliefs. It is shameful and pitiful to see how in the name of that liberty, its government and citizens, go against other French citizens, promoting violence, hatred, racism and segregation.

@Myamirah Ай бұрын

Is France really perceived as a country of liberty, equality and fraternity ? ? By who ? the French themselves ? I’m a Canadian and what I hear about France and French values it seems quite the opposite.

@fadheelm 15 күн бұрын

Difference between Iran and France: one forces women to wear modest clothing, the other one forces to show more skin. Both are equally oppressive.

@aenirrinea523 20 күн бұрын

Disgusting how they think they're entitled to see the bodies of women who do not consent to people looking at their bodies.

@UnnTHPS 10 ай бұрын

even as an atheist woman, the french secularism infuriates me, it turns oppressive, as at the end of the day u r still policing women and their clothing; im for being free to traverse the city either fully covered or fully nude, and of course it must be made safe for either

@Farah-j7t Ай бұрын

Exact. Bravo!

@enbooe 24 күн бұрын

exactly! it’s far secularism that it reverses and turns oppressive.

@shaziah Жыл бұрын

So much respect for you to upload this! ❤️👏🏻

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

@furtgia 10 ай бұрын

Thank god franca banned that shitty costume 🤮 hope all other countries follow, islam and muslims are fu ck ing disgusting 🤢

@myyoga8spa 19 күн бұрын

I’ve learned a lot about Islam and Muslims it was never bad or humiliating for women on the contrary, it was always saving women and keeping them in the higher position, however the burga is not an Islamic thing 😅it’s a cultural thing. In Arabic countries you’ll all kinds of covers and non hijibis and they are living happily 😊

@nooraldriss2240 19 күн бұрын

Exactly finally someone understands it

@Madmarkhor 3 күн бұрын

The burqa is an Afghan take on the Niqab which is in the Qur’an in the ayah of hijab. That and the jilbab is mentioned in the Qur’an

@hera5454 10 ай бұрын

as a Muslim European hijabi woman myself, i couldn't imagine living in France. It literally takes me 20mins from home to cross borders and be there (from Belgium), but even shopping there is scary and feels extremely unsafe. The whole country seems to live in some sort of paranoia, which really appears nonsensical and almost funny how absurd when you're an outsider. Got followed and yelled at by some man in Lille in broad daylight in a busy street where no one bat an eye, who said "go back to your country, no one wants you here", said can't wait ! thank GOD im not from here lol. French people really care about what KIND of people walks in their streets and enter their local coffee shops and i don't understand why they care that much. doesn't it take too much energy ? doesn't it affect their own treat coffee time ? makes me sad for myself but legit more for them. Get a life ?

@spiritualhumanist 10 ай бұрын

Did you miss the part about islamic terrorist attacks in France? How they know you are not gonna blow your self with explosives ?

@mikidias 9 ай бұрын

Same thing with me here ☝🏻 and I'm Hejabi European Christian myself too 🧕🏻 ✝️ 🇪🇺 I really hate France 🇫🇷 😠

@lukasmoskit3406 9 ай бұрын

Moving to an Islamic country is the best option

@mikidias 9 ай бұрын

@@lukasmoskit3406 That's so Islamophobic and racist 🤢 🤮

@ilanakidiadia3181 Ай бұрын

I'm sorry for what happened to you. But don't be surprise by some french for doing so with the events who happened the last decade. At the end of day if you'll feel unsafe here in Europe (France) move to a muslim country. They're are plenty of them.

@hannahkeogh1332 10 ай бұрын

As a muslim woman in the US, this is absolutely horrifying. Are the girls at least allowed to wear a hat or a hooded sweatshirt to school?

@little0349 9 ай бұрын

@jliathx4773 2 күн бұрын

There is this rule that you need to take off any kind of head piece as a sign of respect… I think i doesn’t make sense anymore, in the winter sometimes its cold in the classroom and teachers still ask students to take off their beanies. Or if a student has a colorfull or chumky headband, teacher might ask them to take it off because it’s distracting to other students.

@chaosasitswirls6125 Жыл бұрын

Moral of the story, let people wear whatever they want 😊

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

not anything they want is it ok if a woman walk in bikini or short skirts no because kids don't need to see that and also it causes fornication and rape also. woman should dress like woman not prostitutes

@Eve-RyujinNippon 11 ай бұрын

@chaosasitswirls6125 11 ай бұрын

womp womp cry about it @@Eve-RyujinNippon

@chaosasitswirls6125 10 ай бұрын

@@Tily-vh3ly says the guy too scared to use their face as their pfp 😢 womp womp

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

Yes, please, go tell that in Iran, Dubai, etc., please go ahead. Ps.: While wearing a bikini on the streets.

@ohhireneexo Жыл бұрын

This is so disgusting. It seems like they just want to practice their religion. They’re not hurting anyone or “ inciting social conflict” but the idea of Muslims being different hurts the French.

@hang1iderswing Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly. The university students are making a stupid catch-22 argument. Saying that Muslims (specifically just Muslim women... wonder why the men get a pass here...) can't be in hijab, because they the Christiaan French will choose not to speak to a visible Muslim woman, is just blaming them for islamophobia. They are literally saying, we don't want to see Muslims around because we don't like them. And if they don't become invisible to us, they should leave. They really showed their true colors at the end-- they want to enforce these nonsensical laws so that Muslims are more and more legally persecuted and have to leave France. That's it-- they want them gone due to racial hatred. Full stop.

@jujum635 Жыл бұрын

As a french, I confirm you it is disgusting. France is now totally racist. Even the state is, the administration. I am leaving it now. I hope France will go back the one it was in the 80, 90 and early 2000, when it was joyfull and peacefull. Now it is hatred in this country 😢.

@iamnemoo 10 ай бұрын

Yea, I don't get it. People don't get fussy over catholic nuns wearing habits.

@rachelminton4914 Ай бұрын

Thank you for your nuanced perspective and standing up for all women.

@elisabethm9655 11 күн бұрын

As a Jewish grandmother who covers her hair, I stand with those who seek to wear the clothes they wish to. The current French law is simply fascist. It’s not a symbol of freedom to be made to dress immodestly. In the present atmosphere, I can understand the security risk of the burka and niqab. But covering one’s hair is simply a human right of individual expression.

@ZohraBoss 4 күн бұрын

Still their country and their rules !! If you can’t accept it , go to where you will be happy and accepted ! World is big

@Madmarkhor 3 күн бұрын

@ZohraBoss the world was not big enough when France colonized all those African countries? Give ur head a wobble

@elisabethm9655 Күн бұрын

@@ZohraBoss - I’ve never been there and have no interest in doing so. There are a lot of cultures I have no desire to visit or support. This however, is an issue and discussion of a woman’s right to dress as she pleases. And yes, I still say these rules are fascist.

@oldanduncouth 11 ай бұрын

Has anyone tried to just dress up in medieval french fashion and go to school and go swimming? cuz frenchies will be hard pressed to force women to take off wimples and hats citing 'religious' attire when it's french traditional clothing - they'd have to outlaw their own historical dress...

@claires4125 9 ай бұрын

That would be hilarious I'm up for it!

@joyeetaghosh2209 Ай бұрын

Well they probably would do

@puch9830 27 күн бұрын

In all societies women covered up and nakedness was considered humiliation but in this twisted society modesty is frowned upon

@NabiHamada 14 күн бұрын

@@puch9830 not true

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

@@NabiHamadavery true

@oumeyaa2367 7 күн бұрын

it is really warmful to see strangers acknowledging this problem we all as muslims have as regards this country; I was born in France and this situation exhausted me at the time, but now I'm just living with it. The real problem is that France want to see women naked as a form of independence while they are just nourishing their own desires. Muslim women, be proud of ourselves and do not care about this racism, stand on your faith!

@Tadao-Lao-q6t 27 күн бұрын

The conversation with the people who came from the conference is very telling, as well spoken as they are. They do not classify people who wear scarfs as French purely because of a garment on their head. It sounds like racism hiding behind secularism. The truth is they still have the colonial mindset. “Overly religious”….”if they can’t live with French people they should leave” yikes.

@haniforever Ай бұрын

I started wearing hijab in 3rd grade and my sister followed me & started wearing in 1st grade. I don’t remember us ever being upset wearing it. It has been part of our identity ever since. I remember back in middle school girls were prevented from wearing pants, leggings or stockings under our skirts claiming “it renders us weak as we would be susceptible to little wind if our body gets used to extra coverage”. Non of the girls liked that because even the non-Muslims felt comfortable and safe wearing sth more than underwear so we all started rolling the legs to hide our pants & leggings. Then the school came up with a new rule that we can only wear white hijab since it matches with our uniform and as a secular school they don’t encourage standing out. Of course, we were not happy with the restriction at first but it was reasonable enough to match our hijab with our uniforms. It would have been a totally different case if we were asked to remove our hijabs but our school was reasonable enough to not overstep. Asking a Muslim woman/girl to remove her hijab is like asking her to bare herself, our hair is private to us and no one has a reason to demand we make it public. We wear it proudly despite experiencing challenges by those who choose not to accept us as we’re, despite those who are offended by our level of modesty. It is our choice to make, if you believe in freedom of choice then let us be modest in peace.

@Sumble Жыл бұрын

It's okay to wear anything, unless you're a Muslim women and choose to wear the hijab or niqab 🙄

@rahafq6353 10 ай бұрын

Thissss 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@Sonataofsadness 20 күн бұрын

What about the middle east where they arrest you for wearing short skirts and tank tops in public. Happened to me yall shouldnt complain about whats happening in france because its happening here in iraq except its not against muslims women but against non muslim women. If you want a law for everyone to be modest in iraq / middle east then what do you expect when countries do this

@smg8048 18 күн бұрын

@@Sonataofsadness whataboutism isn't that great of an argument. Europeans go to Muslim countries all the time as tourists, don't they?

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

@@Sonataofsadness complete lies 😂

@Wrldgirlvikky Ай бұрын

Ironically, there is a modesty trend in the US with Millennials and Zoomers. Honestly, this law is classic French paternalistic superiority. My own personal inner conflict with extreme modesty fashion is that 99% of it is on women. And when you look deeper into it, I can't help but see the governance of women's body by yet again an institution ruled by men. How does a woman's hair be immodest but not a man's? At the end of the day, I fully support women and the choices they make for themselves. True liberty and freedom are not obstructed by our own personal qualms with other people's (women) choices.

@justanotherdreamer7721 Ай бұрын

the body is a personal choice. so if the government wants to remain secular, this shouldn’t affect the personal display of your body

@d1i2e3u4 10 ай бұрын

It sounds super contradicting. If your are afraid of extremisme then minimise it, but these restrictions will just push people away from each other and push people into extremisme. The women who stop going to school and working will be relying on the men, and will be easier to be pushed into extremisme. It doesn’t help the women or society.

@alittlebreak6370 Күн бұрын

I know that a Japanese lady wearing kimono had an impro-photoshoot at a well-known boutique in Paris, because she looked stunning in her grandma's 100-year-old kimono and people gathered around her. Shinto shrine maiden dresses are also beautiful, and I think the same kind of photoshoot would happen on a street in Paris. If you do not fear other religions and religious wears like Shrine maiden wears, you should not fear Hijab either. This is clearly discrimination. This is clearly a manipulation of women's freedom. This is clearly an invasion of the freedom of religion.

@RakshadaShirley 10 ай бұрын

I totally agree with women being allowed to wear whatever they want. I live in a muslim country and see all types of dress. If they have a rule such as this then cross jewelry should also be removed before entering a school. On the other hand, I heard a program where French women traveled outside of Paris to areas that had more muslims and were harrassed for what they were wearing. They were even told you are not in France anymore even though they were.

@doovy486 2 ай бұрын

they acc dont allow cross jewellery in schools

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

18:52 This part is so funny after COVID 19 and they imposing wearing face masks 😂

@fridaytax 2 күн бұрын

Face masks are not a religious symbol. What is funny about public health?

@zakizakimoro2827 15 күн бұрын

As a french muslim I congratulate you for this true immersion documentary about the problem of islamic clothes and so the islamic religion. Islam is against terrorism.❤❤❤

@bailey27727 Жыл бұрын

Also Niqab for the one sweet cat lady seemed so freeing! I imagine if it's your own choice that it must be liberating not to fret over your skin or hair or makeup or clothes and instead you can just go out with no beauty expectations. The importance is that women be allowed to choose!

@barbiezinha5633 Жыл бұрын

can the girls wear a hoodie or hat or something more neutral to get around the rules?

@babybrebis Жыл бұрын

In French schools you cannot wear any kinds of hats basically, like people are asked to remove caps in summer and stuff

@AA-yc9dq 2 ай бұрын

Neck and ears need to be covered

@foodrev-k3o Ай бұрын

The rules should change, and public awareness should change them, we shouldn't try to find a solution by getting around them.

@marnyalken17 29 күн бұрын

And yes we all believe in freedom, and really want to apply that into our lives, but also I agree, that what I want to wear on my body, must also be a freedom or a free choice. And we must admit that a veil is a perfect choice on protection the skin against the sun that is heating up every year.

@WaddiaS 25 күн бұрын

The issue is instead of ensuring freedom and security for a woman to allow her to make her own choices, dumb government is going Taliban style to ban a piece of cloth

@imjustagirll_aisha 4 күн бұрын

This channel is the best!! ❤

@Gamer_Mama_0611 Жыл бұрын

How violating to force them to take off their headscarves. Imagine if a country banned crosses & all signs of Christianity. I hate that politicians & people feel the need to bully harmless people who are just minding their own buisness. Im not even religious, I just feel a world of diversity & acceptance would be a happier one. All this anger & hatred harbored by the ignorant is not justified.

@Gamer_Mama_0611 Жыл бұрын

And no 911 is not a reason to justify Islamaphobia. Look at history where there have been mass murder & executions in the name of Christianity. Yet we don't judge every Christian based off the actions of a few.

@palashkumar1217 Жыл бұрын

Hi... I m sure you feel this way coz this video just shows one half of the story and intentionally they didn't show the other half. So, I would just suggest if you could look into the history of iran and other countries where Muslims are "kind of" In equal population.

@qytj1182 Жыл бұрын

Exactly! When she was like 'take it off' made me feel a bit sick tbh

@qytj1182 Жыл бұрын

@palashkumar1217 talk about unrelated. Did you even watch the video? Obviously there are countries that force you to put it on and force you to take it off and no one said either is good thing. This is about the womans choice and that there shouldn't be any squabble if they choose to wear it

@palashkumar1217 Жыл бұрын

@Qytj.. knew someone would reply this so i had a question for you. How would you explain if a 2 or 3year old girl is taught to wear hijab just to follow the religious symbol. She doesn't know a thing about her choice, so why make her wear it..!! I have more questions would like to know your response on this first. And yes I would like to keep it as a open minded discussion in a positive way, coz everyone is trying to keep the society peaceful including you and me.

@selmazouairi4673 20 күн бұрын

The most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. From a hijabi, my biggest congrats❤️

@harrietohara 11 ай бұрын

I really appreciate you putting this out. As a non-Muslim, I sadly grew up with a sense of fear. Fear of the unknown. That idea has changed through education. The more we know, the more we can understand the bigger picture. I’ve been very blessed to have met and know so many amazing Muslim men and women who have taught me about their religion, beliefs and cultures. This information spreading is one of the most valuable pieces of the puzzle that we need to connect people of all religions and backgrounds. Great documentary 👌👏 and HUGE respect Rachid the Robin Hood!

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

Beliefs and cultures are beautiful. Public stonings and whipings are not. Get your friends to take a lying detector test and ask them "If you could reach Parliament, what laws will you change?". Get ready to be shocked.

@magnisky 2 ай бұрын

Sorry but you know nothing, just ask the women from Iran fighting for their lives and rights to reveal their hair, I suggest you follow their stories.

@harrietohara Ай бұрын

@@magnisky That's essentially suggesting that all Muslims are the same. If we were to claim that Christians in Uganda are the same as Christians in Australia, that would be somewhat ignorant, wouldn't it? In Uganda, under strict Christian-influenced laws, you could face execution for being gay. You're conflating the differences between a country’s laws and religion.

@shaquilleoatmeal7389 8 күн бұрын

@@imalrockme you clearly know nothing about islamic law. none of those laws would ever be applied today in the world, because there is no true 'islamic state' in existence that follow all of islamic law. so if a muslim reached parliament, they wouldn't ask for stoning and whipping, idiot

@hithereiam4878 Жыл бұрын

11:44 While I don’t agree with not being allowed to have religious freedom, you kind of dismissed the whole point when you spoke with the French students. They said they didn’t want religion in their streets and you said “…at the end of the day, it’s just an arbitrary piece of cloth.” Arbitrary means based on chance, rather than being planned or based on reason. It isn’t arbitrary. These women are choosing to wear their scarf as a part of their religion. They want to have the freedom to wear their head scarfs. You pretty much dismissed the point of the video by calling their head scarfs arbitrary.

@LS-fe4ob Жыл бұрын

Not arbitrary at all! Good job, managing to insult both sides at the same time

@Farah-j7t Ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@hithereiam4878 Ай бұрын

@LS-fe4ob huh?? I didn't say it was arbitrary, the interviewer did. I'm pointing out that she basically insulted something they consider to be important by calling it "...an arbitrary piece of cloth." I'm not insulting anyone. I'm saying her wording isn't fair to those people. Maybe you just don't get it? Would you want someone calling your religious attire arbitrary? It's your choice of religion, so you should have the freedom to wear whatever religious attire you please.

@maureenfitzpatrick440 Ай бұрын

What about nuns in traditional habits and Priests in Clerical Garb? What about Hindu Sikhs? How about Christians wearing a Cross or Crucifix?

@Familytvtime-s7e 19 күн бұрын

This made me bawl my eyes out. My heart aches for these women. As a Muslim, having the peace and comfort to wear any type of clothing is liberating, but I don’t understand how covering up more is seen as ‘imprisoning women.’

@jztouch 10 ай бұрын

Although it’s understandable after all the terrorist attacks that France would have a strong reaction it just doesn’t make sense to ban articles of clothing. It will only exacerbate tensions between the people. I think the women featured that are making their clothing and appearance fun and fashionable, in other words relatable, are doing the right thing. If French people can see that appeal it can only help. Great episode.

@megandrynan6080 10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't choose to wear a headscarf myself, but I feel bad for those girls being forced to remove theirs before going to school. It makes me mad that they target girls this age who are good people and want to lead successful lives.

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

Aren't you mad at people form every part of the world being forced to wear a hijab when they visit or live or go to school in Iran, for example, against death penalty, if they don't oblige?

@w3jd4n 10 ай бұрын

@@imalrockme the whataboutism.. no one said we couldn't focus on all topics but if you didn't notice this topic was about the ban

@imalrockme 10 ай бұрын

Not whataboutism when problems emerge from precisely the same object: human and specifically women and children's rights vs the right to express yourself. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a reason for a ban. When laws are made public, they have a reason stated in the law itself - 'intro'. @@w3jd4n

@dans.o.s.d.s6971 7 күн бұрын

You don't like comparing france with iran, huh? Turns out to be as equally oppresive as iran, especially when women are unallowed to swim in a pool, while fully covered (by birkini) , which is exactly like professional swimmers suits (+a special waterproof headscarf), i ask myself : "why's there a problem with a covered woman swimming? Is she hurting someone? Did she imposed her lifestyle to other women?" How's that connected to the laïcité de la république ? Bigotry justified with loose excuses... @imalrockme

@dans.o.s.d.s6971 9 сағат бұрын

@@imalrockme (deleted) You don't like comparing france with iran, huh? Turns out to be as equally oppresive as iran, especially when women are unallowed to swim in a pool fully covered with birkini, which is exactly like professional swimmers suits (+a special waterproof headscarf), i ask myself : "why's there a problem with a covered woman swimming? Is she hurting someone? Did she imposed her lifestyle to other women?" How's that connected to the laïcité de la république ? Bigotry justified with loose excuses... @imalrockme

@moonzdrop9811 27 күн бұрын

Before the ban most women didn't wear it , after the ban the number of women wearing it increased .

@kushbewashere 5 сағат бұрын

Yeaah Thank you to invite Asma to participate to this documentary 😍

@iSharShar 9 ай бұрын

2:12 Coco Chanel didn't design the first LBD. She just was able to influence people into thinking she did. She "borrowed" the silhouette from another designer.

@Jonas4Life12 10 ай бұрын

This was an amazing piece. Very eye opening

@silviaartdeco 10 ай бұрын

Love the scene of when you run to the water... ❤ What is freedom? Perhaps that is. Perhaps some women feel free in their modesty.

@thepineapple8434 Ай бұрын

The issue I see at the core is that we can’t tell in the end if a girl or woman decided to wear whatever religious garment she has on her head voluntarily. If it is her own decision, great. If she is forced to wear ist, not great. Countries like France have to choose what group they want to protect in the name of equality: the ones who have a choice or the ones they don’t. Unfortunately the ones who are forced to veil themselves are more likely to just not be allowed to go wherever, which restricts their freedom even more and the ones who want to veil themselves see their individuality attacked. On the other hand, this is not just a religious question but ultimately a cultural. If people feel like they lose their cultural identity in France, of course they want to protect their heritage. In times of globalisation this will be likely an issue in one way or another. Cultures will mix and slowly get lost. Very difficult.

@IntanGoyana Ай бұрын

I don't know why, but watching the girls having to remove their hijabs brought me to tears. That's so sad, semoga Allah memaafkan hambaNya ini 😢

@blissfullyfemininetv1862 9 ай бұрын

He literally contradicted himself, we want people to be "French" in the streets, not present as Christian or Muslim.....what does that even mean to be "French" regardless of religion. That is completely left up to interpretation right? You may not want to interact with somone because they LOOK different from you? That's called being closed minded and prejudiced.If you're afraid to talk to people that look differently from you, thats called a PERSONAL PROBLEM and immature....go see a mental heath professional for that.

@triangle4404 11 ай бұрын

4:48 hijab is actually not mandatory in Saudi Arabia and it’s up to the woman to decide if she’s gonna wear it or not

@powderandpaint14 11 ай бұрын

It is mandatory in Iran.

@triangle4404 11 ай бұрын

@@powderandpaint14 it is, that’s why I only corrected the Saudi Arabian part

@monamuhuthia Жыл бұрын

This video makes you really think and reach deep into your heart trying to reason both sides...who is wrong and who is right....

@rosalyncarcamo6614 Ай бұрын

Amazing piece. Thank you for covering this which I was unaware and share in the sentiment that women are bearing the brunt of this backlash.

@arinabeg7458 19 күн бұрын

Hailey you are so compassionate and caring, thanks for being you ❤

@Ksnamaste Жыл бұрын

This is the world we are living in. It’s just sad.

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

@tigerqueen-u8g 9 ай бұрын

I’m an atheist and find all religion unnecessary to human progress. The burka and niqab are off putting because it renders the woman invisible. I hate seeing it but I also the hate the idea of the state dictating what women can or cannot wear. Whether these women wear it by choice or religious/social pressures from home, banning these garbs limits women’s freedom to move and participate in society.

@lolo_bird Ай бұрын

They like that they are invisible, it gives them power over you because they are free from your gaze. Why do you feel entitled to look at them?

@ndidiokanualvarez1419 Ай бұрын

Well said! You cannot go to their country and wear whatever you want.

@Brentford704 Ай бұрын

@@ndidiokanualvarez1419their countries are theocracies whereas France is claiming to be a democratic nation with respect for freedom of thought and ideas

@MailRescue Ай бұрын

19:30 no. He's right. Even if you want to permanently cover your face (pour être "décente" ou plus religieuse), you shouldn't. How is having no identity permanently, a good choice?

@YuiSuk Ай бұрын

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@rosasurbanas Ай бұрын

It wasnt Islamophobia persay that called for this law.. but the fact that France welcomed a large Muslim migrant population, they were living in France and not adopting the French values and language...these women are free to dress as they want but respect and abide the nation that welcomed them

@WaddiaS 25 күн бұрын

Which laws are these women breaking exactly?

@rosasurbanas 25 күн бұрын

@WaddiaS its ironic..women in Iran have been assassinated for the right to not wear it...itsnot about breaking the law..but respect of the culture and traditions of the nation that has opened the doors...and hijab, niqab, not allowed in banks and other institutions for security purposes... France allowed the dress code for years until it became a cultural issue.

@Jtx620 21 күн бұрын

Ahh yes the French "welcomed" them.They didnt welcome them.French colonised Algerians and basically enslaved them to rebuild their country after WW2.The least French people can do is respect their religious freedom.

@redsqrds3980 13 күн бұрын

It is Islamophobia and being religious doesn't mean not adopting french values

@rosasurbanas 13 күн бұрын

@redsqrds3980 it's beyond islamophobia... its an anthropological issue ..a big sector of migrants were moving in and not learning the language nor customs of their host country.

@shahistaansari2558 12 күн бұрын

During covid everyone was covering their face... I felt the whole world is muslim now😂😂😂

@triangle4404 11 ай бұрын

The fashion girly didn’t have a clue what this whole interview is about, they did her dirty 😭…

@lovinglife419 9 ай бұрын

I think the personal shopper knew very well, but chose to pretend it’s not an issue. Her employer makes money selling the dream of Paris, as if it’s Disneyworld with Mickey+. I doubt they want to draw attention to the fact that Muslim women are viewed in France as ‘dollar signs or terrorists,’ as Haley put it. They’re there to make money, plain and simple. Couldn’t you tell?

@farnazdadashi 10 ай бұрын

Im not a muslim women nor do I practice any religion, but I really appreciated this video!

@ShallowRobotics Жыл бұрын

Incredible video! Thank you so much for doing this. ❤

@YumMhdd9243 19 күн бұрын

As a Muslim woman who emigrated to the UK, this breaks my heart.

@VanessaEvans-kz7yv Жыл бұрын

this was just mind blowing to me. WTH

@iifyasmina5302 11 күн бұрын

I am a moslem and have wear hijab since teenager, to be forced to take off the hijab in public is a kind of humiliation so I cry to see these girs had to take off their scarf before going into school, I hope people would be kinder in the future

@waymilky442 Жыл бұрын

Love Refinery documentaries. Always so great and nuanced.

@MayaMaya-ye7rl Ай бұрын

I love the blue dress bathing suit the reporter is wearing, she looks so fancy

@murmy Жыл бұрын

incredible host ❤

@Leonidas-22 Жыл бұрын

@marieke-2736 Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely. Very empathetic, kind and understanding. She gives people the space to share their story❤

@snowecaddel9454 5 күн бұрын

I started wearing hijab at age 7 and my own parents actually encouraged me to REMOVE it. But I never did. Overtime, it became uncomfortable for me to remove it. It’s always been a part of me, and I’ve loved it ever since the day I put it on. It’s really hurtful to hear people forcing me and others to remove it when some of us don’t want to, we’re not comfortable to, we don’t feel safe, we don’t want to disobey and be untruthful to our beliefs. Why can’t we be left alone? What happened to women’s rights?

@ebindom 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate this video!

@hamnalodhi8946 17 күн бұрын

This is so beautifully done .... amazing work. So proud of you

@helenalexandraaaa Ай бұрын

My heart aches for French hijabis... it is so upsetting to be treated like a criminal for your religious identity and self expression. France has a huge racism problem.

@alexrusso6503 6 ай бұрын

Why can't I find a playlist for this series! I am so glad you guys have made more "episodes" of different areas' fashion as I enjoy these videos sooo much! I just wish I could find all of them in one spot as I haven't checked for a while to see if more were posted!! Please keep it up! Also as for the Muslim girls their parents should buy them wigs. That way they can cover their hair but still meet school requirements.

@shanabenjamin8945 8 ай бұрын

Ma Sha Allah Hailey:) Sukr for the respect you offer Islam and being wise enough to understand covering up is not forced apon women. Those few husbands who forced their wifes to cover up, if she does not wish to, are indeed cowards. Islam is peaceful and magical. The militants who kill under the name of Allah are not true believers ❤

@CioneCiox 9 ай бұрын

What a beautiful and enlightening piece ❤❤

@Omroqurba 14 күн бұрын

Every religious symbol is prohibited except the kippah. Even in parliament they celebrate Hanukkah with Macron but God forbid Muslim and Christian do the same. France is ruled by the tiny hats wearers.