Forbidden Planet - Miranda Likes to Watch - Reaction

[@stevenward2408]

Very, very enjoyable reaction! The special effects in this movies ruled until they were surpassed in 1968 by 2001: A Space Odyssey. Then in 1977, science fiction special effects hit an even higher level with a little movie called "Star Wars". There are some "clues" about what is happening but they are subtle such as Morris's premonitions and nightmares. The ID can never be eliminated because it is part of evolution. Even the Krell who were so benevolent and rational evolved from the (as Morbius put it), the mindless primitive. The ID is ALL irrational EMOTION! Just like the Krell, Morbius could not "understand" what was happening. The first thing the non-ID portion of Morbius's mind did was to warn them not to land; he truly felt grief for all the deaths. But Morbius became more frustrated as time went on and his ID created a monster to sabotage, then kill one person, and then kill everyone. His ID was even going to kill Miranda, his own daughter. Remember, the ID is all irrational emotion; like cutting your nose to spite your face. I look forward to more of your reactions. P.S. Leslie Nielson was dramatic actor until 1980 when he was in a comedy called "Airplane"; he enjoyed it so much pretty much he just did comedies from then on such as "The Naked Gun" and many more.

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

I duno if I'd say that Star wars took them to a significantly "higher level" than 2001. In fact, I'd say Star Wars really just took the SAME style of effects that 2001 had pioneered and revolutionized and applied them to a more action/adventure type story.

[@keithbk]

@@IanFindly-iv1nl Star Wars brought motion cameras into the next era, as that was the biggest leap forward into special effects: the ability to synchronize camera motions utilizing rudimentary computers for better action sequences.

[@TransoceanicOutreach]

The special effects in Star Wars are not better than 2001.

[@carycomic1954]

@@TransoceanicOutreach No, just different. What makes the original STAR WARS (now known as "Episode IV: A New Hope") _undeniably_ superior to "2001" (as far as I'm permanently concerned) is that the former didn't become _over-reliant_ on the background music. like the latter did. To put it more simply; Kubrick had Zarathustra spake _too much_ !

[@robwalsh9843]

The artistry in this film was incredible. The underground facilities of the Krell still blow me away. Also, a Disney animator animated the ID Monster, hence the look.

[@m0j0rising]

Came here to mention the ID Monster animation factoid - glad someone hopped in with it....

[@charlesyoung7436]

I like the fact that the film is reviewed by Miranda. "Miranda" is the female protagonist in Shakespeare's "The Tempest," which forms the basis of "Forbidden Planet's" plot.

[@scottstevens7639]

Back in the ‘50’s, there were a boatload of cheesy low budget sci-fi features made for the sole purpose of making a quick buck. “Forbidden Planet” was one of the first science fiction productions to take it’s subject matter seriously (you might want to also check out the original “Day the Earth Stood Still” and “This Island Earth” for examples of this newfound attitude). It was also one of the first sci-fi films to to have a decent studio backed budget, which is part of the reason the FX, sets and costumes still look great today. The producers even went to the trouble of poaching animators from Disney to render the Id monster as outlined in the perimeter fence. The film was more of an inspiration to ‘Star Trek’ than just the theme of ultimate power corrupting even the most moral person. The whole idea of Starfleet was a direct result of the space fleet depicted here. This film is a touchstone for science fiction in so many ways it’s difficult to express it all in just a few paragraphs.

[@brentfugett2700]

I second TDTESS. Brilliant.

[@a6am3mn0n]

If she watches This Island Earth, she needs to then watch Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie.

[@nathanreeves9408]

The Day The Earth Stood Still is fantastic. It's one of my favourites.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*Technically, EVERY Hollywood movie was made for the purpose of making a quick buck. And MANY of those "cheesy" science fiction and sci-fi movies were intended as serious works.* Please, don't mistake the limited technology and stage acting for schlock. The concept behind _The Thing from Another World_ (1951) is pretty groundbreaking.

[@TheLecherling-hu1vu]

What about War of the Worlds (1953)?

[@adamcollazo8228]

To this day the Monster from the Id is one of the scariest and creepiest sci-fi monsters ever.

[@MirandaLikestoWatch]

It's crazy to see how powerful it is too. Even the doors made from alien technology couldn't withstand it.

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

I kinda think it's scarrier when its INVISIBLE though. Like with the footprint and stairs scene for example.

[@GreyDoofus88]

I think what makes it more terrifying is that because it's a product of Morbius's subconscious mind, no one else can see it until such a time when it chooses to make itself known. But when it murdered Quinn, there was a brief glimpse of the monster just as it tripped the force field. Which was likely due to the fact that it was a being of solid matter as well as being a product of Morbius's imagination.

[@ooEVILGOAToo]

It's what the Krell really looked like.

[@markbrown4359]

Reminds me of the Tasmanian devil.

[@David-l6c3w]

It's cool that Miranda appreciates the film-making aspects of movies, especially the effects.

[@teastrainer3604]

Joshua Meador of the Disney studio did the animation. Walt was an amazing man.

[@NecropsY1]

Its all fake bro its AI deep fake humon

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

@user-jr6bl9ih3e, It seems pretty clear she's very knowledgeable about filmmaking, which one would expect.

[@AXSLA3]

I do think this movie aged magnificently

[@ThubanDraconis]

Yes it did and that's because they had a good story to tell. (It's apparently based on The Tempest by Shakespeare.) If you have a good story you don't really need special effects to make a movie interesting.

[@TheLecherling-hu1vu]

@@ThubanDraconis THIS movie DOES have special effects.

[@ThubanDraconis]

@@TheLecherling-hu1vu Yes, and they were fantastic for the time. I watched it myself for the first time in the early 80s and remember thinking how well they held up even then. By today's standards they are dated to say the least. But that doesn't take away from the movie as they are still perfect adequate to tell the story. And that's my point. This movie would not be improved one bit with a couple hundred million dollars in modern special effects added. The story is what really matters.

[@viceversar-do1cn]

@@ThubanDraconis Hell, I find that it even stands up to those crappy computer simulations of more recent movies (in case that's what you mean by "today's standards").

[@kirkanos771]

@@ThubanDraconis And that's why this movie has to be cherished and never remade.

[@tomstanziola1982]

7:14.......That matte painting, Miranda, took up an entire wall of one of the MGM sound stages! It was that big!

[@enscroggs]

Is it a matte painting or a backdrop? As I understand matte paintings, they are done on optically clear glass with one or more blank regions where live-action footage can be "matted" in. Digital effects have made the technique largely unused today.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

@@enscroggs it's a painted backdrop. No optical compositing around the full size saucer.

[@OrangeApocalypse]

11:16 Morbius - "Don't attribute feeling to him gentlemen, Robby is simply a tool" Robby - (muttering) "You're a tool!"

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@OrangeApocalypse 😂😂😂😂

[@DylansPen]

Hilarious.

[@NecropsY1]

then morbius said - ITS MORBIN TIME

[@tbmike23]

Okay, I admit it. You got me with that one. Cheers!

[@1monki]

"Here I'm, brain the size of a planet, but no one ever listens to me."

[@Goforbroke-h1r]

I never get tired of watching this movie

[@1monki]

They stood on the transporter-like pads to protect themselves from the effects of faster-than-light travel. It looks similar to a Star Trek transporter pad, but isn't for teleportation.

[@MirandaLikestoWatch]

Ah, that makes way more sense!

[@hawkmaster381]

“Electronic” seat belts that physically held not only their bodies in place but all of their internal organs too.

[@aminmalik4086]

​​​@@MirandaLikestoWatchMiranda. You are doing an excellent job analysing these Movies and Episodes. Keep up the good work!!

[@actioncom2748]

Star Trek invented a fictional tech called "Inertial dampeners" to explain how a ship can jump to speed and not Turn the crew into chunky salsa.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

​@@hawkmaster381kinda like the crew was suspended in the beam😉when they decelerated.

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

I can honestly say this us the first time I have seen ANYONE react to this classic. This also shows a young Leslie Nielsen when he was still a dramatic actor.

[@stevenpilling5318]

This was his first major role.

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

Nielsen and Richard Anderson also co-starred in a 1971 episode of Columbo.

[@cliveklg7739]

Love the flip that it is humans in flying saucers in this.

[@vincentsaia6545]

Ann Francis reported that Walter Pigeon and Leslie Nielson competed with each other on the set telling filthy jokes.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@vincentsaia6545 😂😂😂😂

[@Trilaan]

Nielsen probably also had his fart machine with him.

[@johncox6321]

It was 1956, boys will be boys! This was long before the Me Too Movement. 🙄😏

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

Yeaa, and you also see that 2:13 in the CARS and FEMALE MOVIE STARS of the era (1950's). It was called "streamlining".

[@johnandrews3151]

Forbidden Planet was the first big budget sci-fi movie. It was in color, widescreen and the soundtrack was the first electronic soundtrack and in stereo! This movie proved to all the other movie studios that a big budget sci-fi movie could turn a very good profit if done right😮😊!

[@trhansen3244]

A near perfect SF film. My only criticism is the attempts at humor with the cook. They don't really work. But the rest of the movie is magnificent. It is my Mt Rushmore of SF films.

[@wilhelm-z4t]

@@trhansen3244 I get what you're saying, maybe a tad overdone, but it was also used to provide a context to show that Robbie was able to detect the "Planetary Force." So, a bit of foreshadowing, there.

[@Mopantsu]

It was actually a bit of a flop on release. Some other cheesy movie was the biggest hit that year. Most cinema goers didn't understand it and reviewers panned it for being too slow and philosophic.

[@wilhelm-z4t]

@@Mopantsu In other words, too intellectual.

[@Ricardo-hp8gj]

Great reaction. Your are so smart and understanding what is going on as you watch the movie. When I first watched, as with other complex movie stories, I find myself overwhelmed by it all, and am just enjoying the ride. Only after re-watching later I am able to figure out what is going on more fully.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

This gets even more Star Trek when you realize that, in the first concepts, the Enterprise was supposed to have the saucer section detach and land in planets... Just like this saucer.

[@pepsiman990]

This is, basically, Shakespear's The Tempest. The concept of our own subconscious mind given physical form and unlimited power being the most terrifying monster was WAY ahead of its time.

[@scapevelocity]

There was a stage musical in the 80s called Return To The Forbidden Planet that retold this movie with mock Shakespearean dialogue and rock music from the 50s and 60s. I saw it in London and then later in an Australian production in Melbourne. It remains one of my favorite theatrical experiences. "Beware the ids that march!"

[@cmdr_sludgehammer]

I was about to comment the same thing, until I saw yours. When this was remastered in the 1990's and rebroadcast on TV, it was LeVar Burton that was providing the commentary that night. I remember watching it live. If you've ever read Shakespeare's "The Tempest" it's clear this is a direct translation.

[@geminicricket4975]

J. Micheal Strazynski -- the creator of Babylon 5 -- was supposed to do a rewrite of this classic. If he had applied the same level of creativity as he had to B5, I think it would have been excellent.

[@mz5458]

And in Shakespeare's The Tempest, the daughter of Prospero (the main character) happens to be named ...Miranda.

[@docsavage8640]

@geminicricket4975 it would have been crap "for modern audiences," i.e. dumbed down

[@David-l6c3w]

The film featured the first entirely electronic musical score, created by Louis and Bebe Barro.

[@jruhnke7670]

You are correct, except that their last name is Barron (small typo). But you are correct.

[@BarnDoorProductions]

And they weren't allowed to call it 'music'. The credits say 'Electronic tonalities.' Even into the late 1970s, the musicians' union was fighting the use of electronic instruments, saying that a saw-tooth wave created on a synthesizer wasn't as good as a saw-tooth wave created on a violin.

[@CassandrashadowcassMorrison]

Barron, yes. And the sountrack is still available for purchase.

[@allanalogmusicat78rpm]

3:55 What looks like transporter pads are deceleration units. They hold the crew in safe stasis while the ship goes from hyperspeed back to sub lightspeed. The implication is that the human body could not survive that stress, normally.

[@davidwilkins5932]

My first of yours, and it’s a great reaction to a classic. I like your overall presentation and editing choices. Thanks for not cutting it too short, which is all too common for reactors. Looking forward to seeing more as time passes.

[@gorymarty56]

Robbie is programmed with the 3 laws of robotics, established by Issac Asimov books.

[@David-l6c3w]

Yes and the description of how Robbie's brain works using electric potentials is similar to that in Asimov's positronic robot brains.

[@ramonacosta2647]

So nothing could go wrong then.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@ramonacosta2647 One of my favorite lines from the 1972 film Westworld. "Nothing can possibly go wrong". 😱

[@SJHFoto]

@@tomstanziola1982 Actually, with the Asimovian robot laws nothing can go wrong. It actually goes against most robot tropes in that

[@Capohanf1]

I always thought there should be 2 more laws to keep robots from becoming slaves!

[@jayb8369]

The Doctor played by Warren Stevens, was also a guest actor in one of the Star Trek episodes: By Any Other Name. He has also appeared in the Outer Limits and Twilight Zone.

[@johnmarx3919]

he was Basehart's buddy, and he showed up in a bunch of "Voyage" episodes!

[@BobSingerDaGunslinger]

The guy picking up the radar scan was later the boss of the Six Million Dollar Man.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@BobSingerDaGunslinger Richard Anderson. He also was great as the 120ish year old killer in the second Kolchak TV movie, "The Night Strangler".

[@TAKWest]

And the “Doc” was Rojan in Star Trek episode By Any Other Name. Actor Warren Stevens.

[@williamjpellas0314]

Of course he was. He obviously survived being torn limb from limb, and how? One word: BIONICS!

[@BobSingerDaGunslinger]

@@williamjpellas0314 He died from using the brain booster. Kinda like Bones almost did using something like that later in Star Trek in the Spock''s Brain episode.

[@tensix5481]

I am so glad you are covering this! Definitely deserves a watch and still holds up pretty well for when it was made.

[@cajunsushi]

As you saw, this film was exceptionally well done and is a testament to the extraordinary efforts to make such a sci-fi classic. Thank you again for your thoughtful review. I’d like to again recommend the 1951 The Day the Earth Stood Still.

[@reesebn38]

Yes I was going to say this! A must for Sci-Fi fans. Still holds up.

[@larrybell726]

yes, yes, yes !

[@noel99991]

The Krell’s machine was designed to make anything they thought of manifest physically, but it also made everything they thought of manifest physically.

[@barreloffun10]

Boom!

[@NuclearFridge1]

"Why, oh why didn't we fit this thing with an 'off' switch?!?"

[@pheverdream5618]

It is the same hubris that leaves the switch for planetary destruction in every lab to be tripped over...

[@GreyDoofus88]

As Adams said to Morbius... "The secret devil of every soul on the planet all set free at once to loot and maim. To take revenge and kill."

[@johnvangelis484]

It always makes me smile when Nielsen gets on the intercom and talks to the crew, and their all literally within 6ft of him. Interesting fact that most might know, but in case you didn't, the grey uniforms were used in other productions, notably for me in The Time Machine. The Time Machine can be seen in the convention scene in Gremlins and who happens to walk by in the same scene, Robby the Robot.

[@jruhnke7670]

This is a Truly great Sci-Fi Classic! This movie inspired Star Trek. The number 1701 (the Enterprise numbers), is the DC fix called out in the beginning of the movie. Hyperdrive is the inspiration for Warpdrive. The music is credited as "tonalities" because the musician union refused to allow it to be called music. The music was inspired by "Poeme Electronique" by Edgard Varese. It was all done with a primitive electronic sound generator, composed by Louis and Bebe Barron, who were huge fans and pioneers of experimental music. The classic story, based on The Tempest, the fantastic Special Effects, the Forward thinking. This movie really holds up and is a lot of fun to watch. The Invisible monster (created from the subconscious Id), was Brilliant! I was fascinated when I saw this movie on TV while I was in College, and have been a fan of this ever since. Thank You so much for Reviewing this.

[@will-x9c]

I saw this on TV a few years after it was released. I was enthralled. It really does hold up well, so much better than the drek that is produced today (although it's hard to see Leslie Nielsen without chuckling.) The Id monster messed me up, precisely because it was invisible. I had nightmares for weeks

[@jeffthompson9622]

In the '60s Anne Francis (Altair) starred in the detective show, "Honey West." Some episodes are available on KZbin.

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

And a famous Twilight Zone episode too.

[@davidneel8327]

The cook Earl Holliman later appeared in Police Woman.

[@Moodie111]

Her name was Altaira (nickname: Alta).

[@johnclawed]

This demonstrates that production design is much more important than special effects.

[@trhansen3244]

True. I used to look down on any films, especially SF films, made before Star Wars. But then I started watching them and realized there are many great SF films, especially in the 50s.

[@johnclawed]

​@@trhansen3244 See "Colossus: The Forbin Project."

[@IanFindly-iv1nl]

Well, the SPECIAL EFFECTS in THIS flick ain't exactly bad either.

[@johnclawed]

Right, but the design of the scene is what makes "the great machine" so magnificent that it inspired many scenes of cavernous space ships and at least one direct imitation (Babylon 5 and its "great machine").

[@kieronball8962]

I loved Miranda's thoughts, comments and reactions to this fantastic, classic sci-fi movie. Forbidden Planet features incredible special effects, an amazing story and the awesome Robby The Robot. And what great performances from Leslie Nielsen, Walter Pidgeon and Anne Francis.

[@1monki]

Great soundtrack created by early pioneers in electronic music. They created circuits for more staccato waveforms and added a Theremin for the legato sounds. The effect is otherworldly to this day.

[@randyshoquist7726]

"Electronic tonalities" by Louis and Bebe Barron. Think of how much work that was, building and rebuilding circuits, cutting and splicing tape.

[@David-l6c3w]

"NO, Me-Too-Sir will stand twenty extra watches!" ... always loved that line and the delivery by Leslie Nielsen.

[@Eddie-i4n]

Why should he had extra twenty watches. He was sleeping. Not on guard duty!

[@KaiHouston-m6j]

@@Eddie-i4n That was the Captain's "ID". He was lashing out, abusing his authority.

[@flynnwhite9767]

Great line indeed. But as a manager, I always cringe when I see leaders be unfair and irrational.

[@johnmarx3919]

"I'll have less DREAMING aboard this ship!"

[@Mantikal]

Fun Fact - On February 9th, 1966 "Robby the Robot" was renamed as "Robotoid" and made a guest appearance on the original 1960s "Lost in Space" TV series in a black & white video episode titled "War of the Robots." He is continuously condescending and insulting. He tells the Robinson Family's robot "You are ignorant and obviously of a very primitive design"

[@LesterManley-s9n]

Robbie 's second LIS appearance was in season 3 premiere episode Condemned of Space as a lone Robot guard on a space station full of prisoners serving out their sentences in Cryo.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Stop saying Fun Fact.

[@arsbadmojo]

Stop saying stop. It was a fact. And fun.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@Mantikal War Of the Robots is one of my favorite Lost In Space episodes of the entire series! 👏👏👏👏

[@kiemer4531]

Robbie also appeared in an episode of Columbo.

[@kwebb121765]

Even though the special effects are almost 70 years old, I still find the air conditioning duct scene to be astonishing. I can only imagine what it was like to see it back then.

[@robocad]

I love this movie! The first time I saw this was at the film festival at Gen Con 14 in 1981. I watched in awe and said "OMG! This is totally a Star Trek episode! "

[@qibble455]

I really enjoyed the summing up at the end. You totally made it all come together for me:)

[@chris...9497]

Classic SciFi: -the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951) -the original "War of the Worlds" (1953) -the original "The Time Machine" (1960) -the original "Planet of the Apes" (1968) -"Soylent Green" (1973) -"Bladerunner" (1982) -"John Carter" (2012) Lesser known should-be-classics: -"Fantastic Planet" (1973) -"Zardoz" (1974) -"A Boy and His Dog" (1975) -"Enemy Mine" (1985) -"Demolition Man" (1993) -"12 Monkeys" (1995) -"Waterworld" (1995) -"Bicentennial Man" (1999) -"A.I.: Artificial Intelligence" (2001) -"Minority Report" (2002) -"Warm Bodies" (2013)

[@charleshartley9597]

So happy to watch you react to this one Miranda! Watching it with you here, I still marvel at how amazing it is. Glad you were able to appreciate all that makes this film such a classic… I mean, we all knew that was probably be the case! I saw this before ever having read Shakespeare's "The Tempest" so imagine my surprise when I read that excellent play! Cheers! Ps. I never get tired of you geeking out over practical sets or matte paintings, and in general appreciate this kind of film-making.

[@David-l6c3w]

The term "hyperdrive" was used in Forbidden Planet, two decades before Star Wars. According to ChatGTP4: The term "hyperdrive" was first used in science fiction in a preview of Murray Leinster's story "The Manless Worlds," which appeared in *Thrilling Wonder Stories* in 1946.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

Hyper is a Greeko Roman word that simply means 'fast'. I believe.

[@wilhelm-z4t]

Very nice reaction. The first time I saw this film as a kid, I was totally gobsmacked. I wanted to be like Morbius, this genius scientist/archaeologist/philologist. Oh, his name foreshadows his role in the film, death. The special effects, the acting and, above all, the story make this truly and outstanding film. It is very intelligent and, frankly, believable. Of course, as others have noted, it's based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest." Morbius is Prospero, Robby is Ariel, the ID monster is Caliban etc. Prospero's speech near the end of the play sort of sum-up the film, too, and remind me a bit of the Krell's fate: Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep.

[@fredholland7525]

The music in this was "electronic experimental" music. The musician unions raised a fuss about calling it music as they feared they would be replaced by machines, so the music was called "electronic tonalities".

[@redraven4177]

I'm 74 years old, I got to watch this went I was 5. Was out shopping with my mom and saw the poster outside the theater. She took Mr to the matinee. When I got home my mouth was running a mile a minute at the dinner table. My teenage sister was so overwhelmed that she bagged my dad to take her and I back to the movies to watch it. So I got to watch Forbidden Planet twice on the same day. Been a SciFi junkie ever sinse.

[@TheNeonRabbit]

Robby and the Lost in Space robot were both designed by Robert Kinoshita. You could say they're brothers.

[@jasontoddman7265]

Robby did also appear in Lost in Space in a couple of episodes as well; he just wasn't *the* robot of Lost in Space. And you could say they showed some 'sibling' rivalry in the first episode they appeared together in as well.

[@sirimperialmike6398]

My father introduced me to this movie. When he was in college, he was working as the ticket-taker and movie projector operator at "Movie Night" at a theatre near Michigan State. One of the perks was that he got to watch all these movies for free. Every year they had "Forbidden Planet", and he got to watch it often. By the time he graduated, he had seen it over twenty times. It is his favorite Sci-Fi movie. So of course he had to introduce it to his children.

[@TerryParr]

One of the best Sci-Fi movies of all time!

[@TTM9691]

Fantastic, fantastic reaction. Instant sub. Way above the cut. Very excited for you to see all of the greatest movies ever made! Of any era! Very much looking forward to seeing what else you end up reacting to! For me, Forbidden Planet is the third in a sci-fi trifecta that includes Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" and Spielberg's "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind". All dazzling, resplendent, profound, mindblowing and groundbreaking! But looking forward to seeing you branch out from sci-fi!

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

Miranda, This is a reworking of Shakespeare's play "The Tempest", this is one of the best adaptations of it ever in my opinion. Funnily enough, the female character in Shakespeare's tale is called Miranda too.

[@CassandrashadowcassMorrison]

This movie can also be styled as "Phenomenology Made Simple," Husserl would have LOVED it!

[@kschneyer]

Yes: Morbius = Prospero Cdr. Adams = Ferdinand Altaira = Miranda A big, big question is whether Robbie is Ariel or Caliban, and whether the "Id Monster" is Caliban or Ariel. Each of them has features of each of the others.

[@DrJamTastic]

"Oh brave new world that has such people in it" --> "Oh Dr, you're lovely! But the other two are magnificent!"

[@ChicagoPadre]

Don't bother! She's going to have to probably look up and find out what Shakespeare actually is!

[@alanmacification]

Yes, the human interaction somewhat resembles " The Tempest." However, this medium is Sci-Fi, and that means the Krell are the message. The story comes9 from a Homeric play called " Bellerophon " ( also the name of Dr. Morbius' ship ). It's about a warrior who is given gifts from the gods to aid his quest, including special armour and weapons, plus the ability to tame Pegasus. Bellerophon feels he is now as powerful as a god so he demands to be let into Olympus. He is denied. So, he decides to fly to Olympus. Zeus sees this and sends a gnat to sting Pegasus, causing it to send Bellerophon plummeting to his death. Just like the Krell thought they didn't need the machines. ( Star Trek Replicators ? )

[@johnmiller7682]

This movie was a total inspiration for Star Trek.

[@davidmarquardt9034]

This was the first movie that took Sci-Fi seriously. Back then it was thought it would take 500 years for humans to get to the Moon. And there was this attitude that it was silly and that, "People who are interested in these fantasizes; are not right in the head and should be watched." Even 10 years later Gene Roddenberry had a hell of a time selling Star Trek to TV. They told him, "Gene, your a good writer. Go back to westerns and forget about this crazy space stuff." Since these props were all hand made and so detailed, in the 50's they were outrageously expensive, Robbie cost $50,000, you could buy two small houses for that back then! Also the "car" and the saucer were reused in some episodes of The Twilight Zone in the 60's. Robbie also made a guest appearance on Lost in Space, and small parts in some other movies and shows. The DVD of the restored film has a bonus disc with The Invisible Boy and The Thin Man TV series episode; Robot Client. in which Robbie starred in.

[@adamcollazo8228]

I don''t know about the 500 years part. By the time this film came out in 1956 rockets have already reached space in sub orbital flights. Wernher Von Braun had already created designs for spacecraft capable of reaching the Moon. A year after this movie came out the first orbital satellite was launched. The first man into space was just five years later in 1961 and the first men on the men were just 13 years after the movie.

[@jasontoddman7265]

Not the first movie to take sci-fi seriously; just the first to be an A-movie rather than a B-movie. I could list a good many other serious sci-fi films that preceded this one, including Destination: Moon, War of the Worlds, and especially Day The Earth Stood Still.

[@davidmarquardt9034]

@@jasontoddman7265 I've never seen Destination Moon. But I have seen Day the Earth stood still (1951) and War of the Worlds (1953) and yes I should have included them in that very short list.

[@jasontoddman7265]

@@davidmarquardt9034 Glad we agree. Destination Moon would probably seem quite dull to a modern viewer, as it realistically handled a first manned mission to the moon at a time when the actual such mission was 19 years away but seemed like it would be closer to 100. But it handled the subject in a manner far more realistic than most syfy movies of the time were, and imo would be the true first syfy movie to be handled quite seriously. It just wasn't in color nor had an impressive budget even for the time.

[@tomstanziola1982]

41:39......I've seen this movie many, many times, Miranda, and I always get chills at this scene. MGM borrowed an animator from the Disney Studios to help give life to the Monster. Absolutely amazing work!!! 👏👏👏👏👏 After almost 70 years it still looks great!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤

[@mrwomby5007]

In some countries the animated monster was removed from the scene and so was completely invisible. This was because the censors thought the animation was too frightening. However, many viewers thought the revised version was even scarier!

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@mrwomby5007 I didn't know that. Thank you for sharing that, my friend!!! ✌️

[@thegodlessvulcan]

The ID monster is supposed to look like Morbius which, if you squint, kinda does. I can see his goatee a little bit.

[@trolleyfan]

​@@thegodlessvulcan Morbius mixed with Leo the Lion, from the MGM logo.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@trolleyfan Awesome!!! 👍✌️

[@tomstanziola1982]

3:40......What you just witnessed, Miranda, was the deceleration process from hyper-drive. Those beams protect the crew from the sudden reduction in speed. I'm looking forward to your reaction to this classic!!! ✌️

[@Laceykat66]

For those of us gals who paid attention in science class it is inertia. The force something has or doesn't have when it is moving or stationary. They are going from FTL travel to "normal speed." What do you do with all that force you have accumulated with your mass times your acceleration. (Sort of. I paid attention but have not had to use a mass decelerator in some time )

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@Laceykat66 AWESOME!!! ✌️ ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!! ✌️👍

[@Bingo_of_Buckland]

Based on the Tempest by William Shakespeare Altaria, Morbius and Monster of the Id are Miranda, Prospero and Caliban, and Robbie the Robot is the Spirit Ariel. The rest of the crew represent other characters from the Play

[@Doutsoldome]

Yeah. The adaptation works very well.

[@SijoArtLapham6381]

Thanks for checking out my favorite movie of all time!

[@darkkrone1]

Very cool reaction for this film. Good surprise for me to discover this video. It's a film that has been part of my media library for a long time.

[@David-l6c3w]

Everyone should watch next Airplane 1980 or The Naked Gun 1988 to contrast Lesley Nielsen's comedic acting with his serious leading man played in Forbidden Planet.

[@MichaelDzikowski-ms9iz]

Leslie Nielsen always had a sense of humor even early in his career.In fact he was playing practical jokes on the crew and cast during the filming of Forbidden Planet.

I first saw Forbidden Planet when I was 8, many many many years ago. It is still my favourite sci-fi film and feel it had some influence on the original Star Trek series. It was an absolute joy watching your reaction to seeing this film for the first time. I was pleased to see this old classic could still create a sense of awe and wonder in a young person like yourself.👍

[@jimdetry9420]

In the novel, when the planet blows up, the girl disappears. She turned out to be a creation of the lonely Morbius. When I was in college, there was a TV show called "College Bowl Quiz." Kind of like an advanced version of Jeopardy where each round had teams of 4 from three different schools. The University of Illinois, instead of picking a team, had a competition run by the same organization that ran the intermural sports teams. I got 3 friends together and entered a team. The teams usually represented fraternities or dorm halls so, on the entrance form, you had to list the Team Name and what Group you were representing. I named us the Altair IV and said we were representing the Krell. I was never sure if the people running it knew what either of those meant.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@jimdetry9420 I never knew that there was a novel of this! Thanks! I'll have to see if I can track down a copy. Maybe from Thrift books. I love your anecdote about the "College Bowl Quiz", BTW!! ✌️😂

[@jimdetry9420]

@@tomstanziola1982 I read it about 45 years ago. I suspect it is long out of print. I'm pretty sure, like the 2001 novel, it was written as a novelization of the movie but after all this time my memory could be off.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@jimdetry9420 I'm a bookworm. Maybe one of my friends can help. I'll try.

[@martinhafner2201]

And Altair was picked for the currency reference in HHGTTG as the Altairian dollar.

[@jimdetry9420]

@@martinhafner2201 No idea what you mean. HHGTTG sounds like some kind of gene sequence.

[@philowens7680]

Great reaction to my favorite movie that I first watched in 1958 ,,,,

[@MirandaLikestoWatch]

Thank you. I really enjoyed watching it as well!

[@zoppie]

Leslie Neilsen was the male lead in the romantic musical Tammy and the Bachelor, starring Debbie Reynolds (Carrie Fisher's mom). She sings the title theme wonderfully. Anne Francis would go on to star in the TV adaptation of _Honey West,_ from the same producer who would later create _Charlie's Angels._ West was a tough as nails detective, who had a platonic relationship with her male partner (and she kept a wildcat as a pet). A fun show, but it was a one-season wonder. There's an episode of classic _Jonny Quest_ that clearly was inspired by this movie. It, too, features an invisible energy monster leaving footprints wherever it goes. Yes, Robby has made numerous appearances in other productions, but so has the spaceship, most notably in an episode of _The Twilight Zone._ Walter Pigeon (Morbius) plays Admiral Nelson in the movie version of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (one of the most unintentionally laughable sci-fi films ever made because of the sheer amount of stupidity in it that gets passed off as fact). The novelization by Theodore Sturgeon is way better. It did spawn the TV series, which is marginally better than the movie, but only just.

[@TedLittle-yp7uj]

Both Neilson and two time Oscar nominee Pidgeon were Canadian.

[@wilhelm-z4t]

Oh, if you look closely at the _id_ monster, it sort of looks like Morbius, got the little goatee. Another nice touch!

[@higgme1ster]

All those guys in the crew going forward had notable careers in Hollywood or on TV. But Anne Francis had her own TV Show where she portrayed a private investigator, Honey West with a pet ocelot. She was the first female private investigator with her own featured character on American TV.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

@@higgme1ster I just watched Honey West for the first time and thought it reminded me of Remington Steele. A chick running the show while needing Male Muscle around to be taken more seriously. What surprised me was how much older Anne Francis looked only 10;years after FB. Then I looked up her age and she was in her early-med 20s when she did FB and was just a few years younger then Leslie Nielsen. Don't get me wrong she's still cute in Honey West but the bloom was definitely off the rose-to coin a phrase. Both Nielsen and Francis died around the same time. Francis might still be with us if she didn't smoke like a chimney but they lived fairly long lives.

[@CassandrashadowcassMorrison]

The character debuted on Gene Barry's series BURKE'S LAW.

[@mikematusek4233]

the green light was like a seat belt to prevent bodily harm in the deceleration from FTL. there are three parts to the human mind Ego, Id, and Super Ego.

[@BossNerd]

I used to teach a SciFi class in high school. We classified several movies as "Super Science Fiction". Those movies that embedded themselves is our culture. This is one of them. They are, in order, 1)Metropolis 2)King Kong 3)The Forbidden Planet 4)2001 5)Alien 6)Matrix. Star Wars is not included because it is classified as Science Fantasy. With the exception of Metropolis they all hold up to be very entertaining even today. Metropolis is silent so it has certain limitations but it is has dazzling special effects for the 1920s. Besides ground breaking special effects they all make you both think and feel - the perquisite for good science fiction.

[@Lethgar_Smith]

Even though it is often derided by fans of Metropolis, I have a special love for Giorgio Moroder's special 1984 reconstruction of METROPOLIS, with color tinting, and a modern rock musical score. This was made before a lot of the missing scenes were found and restored. The result is a much faster paced story and the music really works in setting a bizarre and alien tone to the whole film.

[@Laceykat66]

You omitted Star Wars (Which I understand) but included King Kong in your list of "Super Science FIction" ? More horror than science anything. Nobody MADE Kong. Not any "science" involved in the story.

[@lucasbachmann]

Odd that King Kong is on a science fiction list. While no doubt important for culture, cinema, and special effects it has no science in the story.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Interesting Alien is there, many classify it as horror, not sci-fi.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Atheists point of view regarding Star Wars, the best sci first film ever.

[@christopheryochum3602]

This movie was so well done. They didn't resort to camp or ongoing joking and smart-a** dialogue. Excellent movie, and the effects and matte paintings were sublime.

[@teastrainer3604]

Cyril Hume wrote brilliant screenplay. And you can see where Gene Roddenberry got many of his ideas.

[@David-l6c3w]

Just realized in my last watch the scene where the engineer is showing the captain the frequency modulator that looks like coil of copper tubing is done again in Star Trek First Contact 1996 with a very similar looking coil of copper tubing meant to be a warp coil.

[@mrwomby5007]

Although “klystron” sounds like an invented term it’s a real thing, used to generate microwave energy in radar systems.

[@darrenbradley1282]

Loving your reactions and reviews Miranda. Forbidden Planet was first ever film to use a complete electronic score for it’s soundtrack, made together by a married couple. I have a great affection for the soundtrack also, as it played at the entrance for a sci-fi horror exhibition at local fun fair amusement park seaside resort here in North Wales. May I also add Miranda you have a remarkable resemblance to an actress of a much loved and great sci-fi series that aired in 2008 for 5 seasons.

[@mekonta]

Who does Miranda look like? I’m guessing you’re referring to epic sci-fi series ‘FRINGE’ with the lovely Anna Torv.

[@David-l6c3w]

Seat belts began to be introduced into American cars in the 1950's but were optional. Seat belts in cars were probably considered novel new tech in the 1950's.

[@gnericgnome4214]

They were considered novel in 1948 when Preston Tucker added them to his Tucker Torpedo, along with many innovations considered standard today. You should watch "Tucker: The Man and his Dream" to learn more. My favorite line of that movie is, "...don't get too close to people. You'll catch their dreams".

[@albundy7718]

It inspired Star Trek 10 years later. Leslie Nielson played an early version of Cpt. Kirk.

[@quentinmichel7581]

As I recall, the planetary terrain images were painted by notable space artist Chesley Bonestell. Growing up during the 50's, my imagination of alien worlds was defined by Bonestell 's art. While in late Elementary/early Middle School I was a member of a Junior offshoot of a local Stars Club based at my city's science museum. We held our meetings in a large ornate conference room with a huge wood table. Surrounding the table on the beautiful dark panelled walls were at least a dozen full size framed Chesley Bonestell originals. I was so enthralled by the aiien vistas that I always had to be dragged away from them so the meeting could proceed. About 10 yrs ago I contacted the museum to find out whatever happened to the paintings but the people there now had no idea that they had ever been on the 😂property at all. Unfortunate, but I still have my incredible memories. And this movie is among my all-time favorite old school sci-fi epics....along with THIS ISLAND EARTH.

[@gorymarty56]

@@quentinmichel7581 did he do the When World's Collide mattes also? And war of the world's

[@johnthom3342]

Forbidden Planet is still the best Science fiction ever.

[@denveradams4909]

One of the other guys there, is also in Star Trek, TOS. "By Any Other Name" episode. Also, the alcoholic goes on to play the part of a police officer in a 1980s TV show, opposite Angie Dickinson.

[@gorymarty56]

Police Woman. The guy is Earl Holliman

[@denveradams4909]

@@gorymarty56 You are correct, sir. Sometimes my memory isn't what it used to be. lol

[@gorymarty56]

​@denveradams4909 it's okay. I'm a woman tho. My handle confused folks

[@tonycampbell4982]

Would love to see a updated version of this. Great movie for it's time.

[@pjcornelius]

This is a true classic SciFi movie. Glad you were able to appreciate it.

[@cpace123]

First time watching. I have enjoyed the commentary on how the effects are possibly done. Not seen very often in other reaction videos I have watched from other sources. A great movie, on of my favorites.

[@MirandaLikestoWatch]

It's almost like watching them perform magic tricks. It's always interesting to see what people do when they can't rely on CGI.

[@andrewcurry602]

Transporters were used in the 1939 Buck Rogers film serial starring Larry “Buster” Crabbe

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

31:53 Mark! Oh yeah! The doctor plays a guest character in "Star Trek"! Have you seen that episode yet? Walter goes on to play the captain of the submarine "Seaview" if I recall correctly, in the movie version. Blonde actress Barbara Eden is also in the movie! For the television series, they had a new cast by which time she was "Jeannie"! 😊

[@enginy5]

There are loads of good classic 50s sci-fi movies that inspired later versions, new films and series. Check "The Day the Earth Stood Still", "Them!", "The thing from Another World", "The Invasion of the Bodysnatchers", "War of the Worlds", "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "The Fly", "It Came from Beneath the Sea", "Godzilla", "The Blob", and many others.

[@leroystea8069]

It was fun to watch this with you and seeing your reactions. I saw this when I was eleven years old on television, the Monster seemed really scary to me back then. And yes, the effects are really good. I often wondered if they would do a remake and how that would be handled. Also, it was different seeing Leslie Nielsen so serious.

[@brianimator]

The ID Monster was hand animated by Josh Meador, who was on loan to MGM from Disney. He was an FX animator on Snow White, Pinocchio, and Fantasia among many others.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Fantasia was years ahead of its time in both execution and concepts. Its scared the heck out of some Disney fans.

[@oaktreeman4369]

I first saw this on black and white TV, when I was a boy in the sixties. I've always loved it.

[@duncandavenport7007]

The story is loosely based on "The Tempest" by William Shakespeare. Morbius, with his almost wizard-like powers echoes the character, Prospero, who is also marooned/confined to his own island with his daughter named...(are you ready) *Miranda*, who in the movie is, of course, Altaira.

[@direnova6284]

I'm really pleased it aged so well, it looks so cool.

[@ericanderson8886]

The War of the Worlds (1953) and The Time Machine (1960) are two other good movies from that period with excellent visual effects by George Pal.

[@blortmeister]

Excellent reaction! Love the way you took the film on its terms. So rare these days, eh?

[@richardb6260]

DC stations that looked like Trek transporters were for deceleration for the transition from hyperspeed to sublight speed. Presumably some sort of stasis to help them deal with the change in inertia. Decades later, Star Trek: The Next Generation would refer to "inertial dampeners" to compensate for the same thing. While Gene Roddenberry initially denied that Forbidden Planet was an influence on Star Trek, a memo from Roddenberry during development of the first Trek pilot refers to he and others seeing a screening of Forbidden Planet and a request for stills and frame enlargements from the film to send to the design staff as inspiration. He also requests a list of the design and effects credits for the film. Robby the Robot's second appearance was in The Invisible Boy from 1957. A line of dialogue seemed to indicate that the film might be considered a sequel/prequel to Forbidden Planet as it is said that Robby was brought back from the future and is probably the same Robby from FP. Freud's theory of the Superego, Ego, and Id (Superego representing the ideal self and the Id being the subconscious self determined by basic instinct. While the Ego is the actual self being the product of both the Superego and Id) reminds me a bit of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Spock being the purely logical Superego and McCoy being the highly emotional Id, while Kirk is a combination of the two.

[@JulioLeonFandinho]

Nobody can deny that this movie is the basic foundation for TOS, It's completely obvious... your freudian analogies are interesting but, sincerely, It doesn't make any sense, unless you believe in that little religion

[@jd190d]

@@JulioLeonFandinho The Freudian theories are not some little religion, they are steps along the way for psychology that changes and refines as we learn more. It's like saying wing design in WW1 was some little religion because it is primitive, but they were early steps along the path that gets us to a greater understanding. The other possibility is that you are one of the Scientologist Xenu followers who are against psychology as a scientific endeavor. If that is the case there is no helping you.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

​No religion is little to those who follow one. Freud's work is largely forgotten now but I'm sure was common knowledge when the movie first came out.

[@David-l6c3w]

I just re-watched Forbidden Planet last weekend ... excited to see your reaction and review!

[@actioncom2748]

The director tries to give you a hint of what's coming by giving the monster a goatee. Just like Morpheus

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@actioncom2748 YES!!! 👍

[@tulinfirenze1990]

Thank you for reviewing one of my all time favorite films!

[@brt5273]

I saw this on the big screen in about 2007 right after it's restoration and it was spectacular. I agree that film makers need to back off the cgi and rediscover the magic and beauty of practical effects.

[@tomstanziola1982]

@@brt5273 Practical effects rule!!! 👍

[@canebro1]

3:40 At the beginning, it wasn't transporter pads, it was essentially "protect the human body from the effects of massive acceleration / deceleration" pods.

[@LesterManley-s9n]

I thought the character interactions were clearly an inspiration for Star Trek. The captain, doctor,second in command and engineer seem to be mirrored in Star Trek ten years later in 1966.

[@carycomic1954]

Actually, those were force-field-generating booths called deceleration stations for when hyper-spacecraft slowed back down to sub-light speeds. Similar to the inertia dampeners so often mentioned in all the different STAR TREK series.

[@carycomic1954]

But, your use of the term "Disney princess" was more apt than you know. All the matte paintings and visual effects were done by Disney animators on loan to MGM!

[@carycomic1954]

And, speaking of influences, the screen play was mostly inspired by Shakespeare's "The Tempest" with Morbius paralleling the wizard Prospero and Robby as both Caliban and Ariel (hunchbacked henchman and ethereal fae-like servant, respectively).

[@carycomic1954]

While Anne Francis would go on to influence the creation of women-dominated crime-fighting shows like "Charlie's Angels" and "Murder She Wrote" by playing (although, sadly, only for one season) the butt-kicking martial artist and private eye Honey West!

[@howardpalys6929]

One more interesting note, Forbidden Planet is considered to be (Looseky) based A Play by Shakespear. the story is set on an island. In the story you have the character Prospero Morbeus in Forbidden Planet, Miranda Altera, Prospero ios a wizard.

[@misterprecocious2491]

The Tempest.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

32:41 Mark! I think that the underground city complex inspired the one in the television series "The Time Tunnel"? 🤔

[@howardpalys6929]

DC stands for deceleration, the beams held them in place so they wouldn't bounce around during deceleration.

[@brandonflorida1092]

Actually, the machie turned them into a gas so that they wouldn't become grease stains during deceleration. They had to shed hundreds of millions of miles per hour of speed in a minute.

[@howardpalys6929]

Wrong the Dceleration devices, are more like high tech seatbelts, they hold a person in a sort of bubble during acceleration and deceleration.

[@hobbypassion]

So glad you've reacted to such a classis movie.

[@tranya327]

The film does indeed hold up very well! You asked, "What did I miss?" You may have under-appreciated that this film plays with many romantic-erotic themes. I think we are supposed to believe that before Adams and his crew arrived, Altara had no se***l desire or curiosity: “Why should people want to kiss each other?” Altara becomes romantically attracted to the Captain - only after he stops being “nice” and begins imposing rules on her (a masculine behavior that gives her femininity something to ‘push against’). For her own protection, she must not dress in seductive, form-fitting clothing in front of the male crew. Adams expects her to know what he’s talking about: her inadvertently arousing the men, and the possibility of either s*x or r**e. But, these seem to all be completely foreign notions to Altara. Before she becomes se***lly attracted to the Captain, Altara is able to interact peacefully with the tiger. She is ‘at one’ with the plants and animals of her world, as if she is Eve in the Garden of Eden. But, after she passionately kisses Captain Adams - after she has her femininity and her se***l drive awakened - that is the moment she becomes ‘fully human,’ and can no longer be ‘at one’ with the animals. This is why the tiger turns on her. She has now been separated from the ‘animal kingdom’ - she is above and beyond it. The tiger ‘knows’ this. Altara helps further the point when she declares, “He didn’t recognize me! Why?” Adams responds, “You really don’t know, do you?” Her awakened se***lity has made her a different being. I think that 1950s audiences, being immersed in Biblical concepts and classic Western literature, would have gotten what the film’s creators were going for. Today’s audiences have that educational background to a much smaller degree, and I think find the whole thing puzzling: “The film is trying to say something, but we don’t know what.” Morbius’s monster only returns from its long absence, after Altara reports that her se***l flirtation with the rescue crew has progressed from verbal banter to the physical level of hugging and kissing. The ‘dark’ part of Morbius can’t accept the notion of giving his daughter up. I think that Morbius engineered Altara’s education with specific gaps: He seems to view Earth as not worth returning to; would it be a stretch to believe he thought that, “Human civilization is greedy and corrupt - is there really a purpose in exposing my daughter to it? Its history, and literature? Why, when she’ll never be among them?” So, Altara knows math, but not Shakespeare. She may have been exposed to ’Thomas-the-Tank’ kids’ stories, but not to adult novels. Star Trek has an episode that parallels this film, in its third season, “Requiem for Methuselah,” which introduces 'Rayna.' The Sci Fi movie ‘The Fifth Element’ also plays with this: a woman who is (literally or figuratively) ‘born yesterday’ - and has no history of evaluating men, is thrown into the presence of the male hero, and inevitably falls for him. All three female characters - Altara, Rayna and Leeloo - are depicted as having no se***l side or desire, until the hero comes along and releases it.

[@erocrush]

The puah-pull between Adams and Alata is also a cue from the "screwball" romantic comedies of the 30s and 40s where a man and woman use bickering, insults and outright sabotage to resist their obvious attraction to each other. "It Happened One Night" and "The Front Page" are excellent examples.

[@gnericgnome4214]

@@erocrush I find it so amusing watching modern people try to analyze the natural interaction of men and women as if the current warped dichotomy was normal and the millennia old interaction was abnormal.

[@timthompson3569]

This also ties into old tropes about only virgins being able to tame unicorns, because of their shared purity. The tiger is no longer tame for Altaira because she's now tainted by her sexual knowledge of good and evil.

[@CNubel]

At the end you said; "What an interesting story." Forbidden Planet is Shakespeare's "The Tempest" done in outer space. This is a modern interpretation of a Shakespearean play. That is why the story is so good.