Force USA MONSTER G12 Commercial FULL Overview

[@Amber86queenbee]

I bought the G12 this year after watching your older home gym tour. Some improvements for Force USA would be to update the assembly manual (if you don't have high ceilings you have to undo it all to get the cables through the top when it is so much smarter to do that earlier in the steps), put the accessory hooks all on the left not over the exercise pictures, the handles that come with it could be better (it does NOT come with those straight bar or the grip strength that is shown in the accessory hooks and I bought the 2019 model) and they could make a small 2.5 or 5 lbs weight stack adaptor to make the jump between plates easier (and the competitors do this). Also they could make a strap between the cables to do assisted push ups like Hoist or Inspire Fitness). Overall I am happy but they could gain insights from their competitors.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Sorry for the delay in reply. I have passed this along to them. The team is always super cool about feedback and want to keep improving their lineup.

[@Amber86queenbee]

Camil hi so the main competitors are inspire fitness' ft2 and hoist but since I bought it there has been an increase in brands in Australia. Some appear nearly identical, others may or may not be the same quality (? don't know without seeing). The other brands I am aware of are Renault Fitness' brute force 360PTX, revolution and Reepex off the top of my head but occasionally I come across others that look exactly the same but without the Force USA logo. So my top 3 picks to look into would be Force USA, Inspire FT2 and Renault Fitness brute force 360PTX. All 3 have pros or cons. Overall I am happy with force but feel sometimes the 1:1 ratio can be a pro or con depending on the movement. I like that Inspire Ft2 has the extra cable points in the middle part of the machine, comes with the weight adapter (for smaller increments), comes with what I believe they call an ab band that can be used for assisted pullups. But I find Force USA has more variety in the movements with the j-hooks, dip handles and landmine and I didnt like Inspire's smith machine mechanism myself. The Bruce force 360PTX is by an Australian company that has a USA supplier/delivery point to keep freight & timeframes down. What I like about that model is that it has jammer arms and everything but the ratio is nearly identical to the G12. It is a 1:2 but they seem to get around it by an optional device you can put on the weight stack to allow you to put your olympic plates on to increase the load beyond the true force of the stack. You need to keep the stack covers off for this. I probably would have gone with this option if I had been aware of it. So I am fairly happy with the G12 but I think Force USA needs to get creative with some optional upgrades like the jammer arms, weight stack adapter etc to remain competitive after it calms down from COVID19 buying sprees. Putting it together with their instructions was a pain but there are some videos now on how to if you pull the trigger.

[@sleepy1171]

@@Amber86queenbee the 360PTX looks incredible.

[@Amber86queenbee]

Aaron Aaron I agree - if I had seen it before buying the G12 I would have bought it instead. I wish I'd have gone with it as it has a lot of positives but I miss the 1:2 ratio. I initially liked 1:1 like the G12 but I miss the full distance of a lower cable ratio for movements like straight arm lat pulldowns - I just can't quite get the reach for full range of motion. So yes really consider your own needs.

[@sleepy1171]

@@Amber86queenbee awww noo. I paid an invoice for the G12 today. Works been so hektic that I forgot I saw the 360PTX. So you reckon for things like straight arm Lat pull down the cable isn't long enough?

[@josealfredorendon1]

When will this be back in stock? They’ve been out for months now!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

They’re trying their best to get shipments in as fast as possible. Trust me- they want to sell units.

[@josealfredorendon1]

Stevie Richards sure hope they get some in soon!

[@lancep.1251]

I just purchased a G12 using Stevie’s code. Looking forward to the delivery. Thanks for the videos, Stevie.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Awesome. Thanks. Keep me updated on how it’s working got you.

[@Fitforacting]

Thank you so much for doing these. I can only imagine how exciting it must be to go there and do this. I got to visit Ironmaster but didn’t film anything like this but that would’ve been great if I did. Nothing better than hearing from the company why they did what they did. Makes you want to buy it even more and also gives us the insight into why the changes were made.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Thanks. I’m planning a trip back there to review the new G20 soon.

[@DoritosResidue]

That's a nice all in one. I would go with either this or the inspire fitness ft2

[@acecool72]

Yeah I want that monster G12

[@acecool72]

Just have no idea when they will be in stock

[@DoritosResidue]

@LetsGoChamp I ended up getting the monster g6. I'll be honest I have some regrets with purchasing it. Some of the parts are cheap and there is quality control issues. Quite a few short cuts and compromises. I know the inspire ft2 is better quality because I messed with it a few times my friend has one. If you click on my profile I made a video about it. But I don't have much space and needed the option of a half rack which the monster g6 has (free weight barbell exercises)

[@DoritosResidue]

@LetsGoChamp no prob. When I move into another place with a bigger garage I'm selling my monster g6. I'm definitely going for a ft2 and a half rack by rogue or rep. Or back to ironmaster.

[@DoritosResidue]

@LetsGoChamp yeah I did but it was the bigger foot print I couldn't do. I have a one car garage and I still have to park a small fiat in there. So the ft2 or monster g6 work best for the limited space I have.

[@Dennis4155Ruygrok]

Really dig the fitness reviews. More equipment vid's please Stevie!

[@damienmason3807]

Thanks for the explanation on the 1:1 ratio. I just watched your review of the G9 (which I also love the old skool feel) where you mentioned a 1:1 ratio. I had no idea the G6 was a 2:1 ratio.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Yes it is a 2:1 ratio, but it doesn’t affect my home workouts at all. That being said, I think my next trainer will be the G9 because of the old school look to it. Thanks for watching.

[@jagdishtonde5658]

Very good multiplayer..if i want to order it to India what's the process?

[@rambojohn7118]

Stevie a potential problem with the Safety Spotter arms for all the Force USA racks is that the Arms aren’t long enough and I’ll explain: Let’s say that you want to do Squats with free weights and utilize that option on the monster series racks well when you untack the barbell and step back you are normally stepping back more than 14” more like 2 foot steps and when you squat down and if you fail you would dump the bar off your back and it should land on the Spotter Arms that are mostly 24” long but with 14” spotter arms the bar would be past the 14” spotter arms and drop to the floor and could cause damage to your area if in an apartment or maybe cause an injury. Just my thoughts on the Spotter arms being so short. You should ask Force USA about this and see if what they to say. Thanks

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Thanks so much for the input. I’ll be sure to ask them about this potential issue.

[@laurencec.s5358]

Hey man! Love this review. I live in an apartment and I’m a serious gym enthusiast and looking at a proper home gym set up. Thoughts on this G12 for an apartment or is it too much?? I can’t decide between the G12 or G6 but doing cable flys crossovers on the G6 looks too restrictive and uncomfortable ? I live on the 14 floor would there be any issues with weight on the floor?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

The G6 and G12 and both great. In my opinion, it really comes down to two things: budget and if having a 1:1 ratio or a 2:1 ratio on the cable stacks matter. We moved to the ground floor in order to accommodate the weight we’d be putting on the floors, so I’m not sure how either G series trainer would work for you. Also, bringing all the pieces up 14 stories and assembly would be quite a chore. Hope this helps.

[@laurencec.s5358]

Stevie Richards thanks mate for getting back to me so quickly. Yes it has helped. One last thing. Do you know if the G12 back board that shows the different type of excercises on it, can be removed so you can see straight through the machine? I have beautiful city views and don’t want to completely obstruct my views.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I believe you don’t have to install that piece. It doesn’t support anything from what I can tell.

[@cristinaavasilcai8566]

I just ordered the G12 Commercial and can’t wait to receive it! I am so excited!!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Congratulations. Please keep me updated on how it’s working for you.

[@zi7113]

Me too! Got it installed this week. Brilliant

[@robertf863]

I want one of these but I think I’ll go with the g3 due my low ceiling. Just hoping to get it when it’s in stock.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

The G3 is definitely a great value. Don’t forget to use the code STEVIE5 to save a little more.

[@robertf863]

Stevie Richards just waiting on the in stock notification. Did you review the g3?

[@rambojohn7118]

Good review. I have read comments on the Force USA web site from customers that own a Force USA unit and they say that the attachments are low quality like amazonish ! The comments are pretty recent too. Did Force USA do away with the Color option for the G12 ?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

The attachments are basic ones and the company have more commercial upgraded ones on the G20 as well as the upgrade kit for the G10/G15. The attachments that were included with my previous Force USA G3 are still holding up well and being used all the time. The color options haven’t been available for quite awhile now. My guess is supply chain issues from 2020 and that’s an extra step to manufacture as well. If you do decide to get the G12 or anything else, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@nelsonwang5657]

Great review Stevie thank you. How does the G12 compare with Inspire PT2? Just comparing the two before I make the purchase.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I prefer the G12 over the PT2 for a number of reasons: The multi-grip pull-up bar is way better. The adjustment mechanism on the cable pulleys is way more sturdy from my experience. I’ve used the switch type ones like on the PT2 and they fail over time. The smith machine bar is way better on the G12 and includes a leg press attachment. Speaking of legs- you can do leg curls and extensions on the PT2, but you limited to buying their bench for that cable work and the bench looks cheap to me. Assembly is never super quick on these all in ones, but the PT2 seems to have more moving parts and steps to put it together. My friend Get Fit Over 40 here on KZbin has commented about Inspire’s customer service and how lacking it is. Force USA during these uncertain times has seemed a little overwhelmed, they have done everything to communicate with customers IMO. The decision is up to you- as long as you’re progressing in your fitness journey and being consistent- the equipment is secondary. If you do decide to purchase the G12, please use my link. It helps save you a little money if that’s the way you want to go: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@gep]

Is there a bench that goes with this that allows leg extensions and leg curls? It would be great if it would attach to one of the weight stacks!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Not that attaches to the weight stacks, but they do sell the MyBench. That includes a leg attachment and preacher curl one.

[@frankbh83]

Got my g12 in today!!! Saved a nice chunk of change using stevie’s code too!!!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

That’s great. Congratulations and thank you for using the code. Keep me updated on how it’s working.

[@TheSkittlesrock]

@@StevieRichardsFitness hi Stevie what's your code? Is it still valid? Interested in buying the g12!😀

[@thomasjames8277]

I like that they seem to always be looking to improve their equipment, even if it was already good

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Agreed and they are great at implementing feedback whenever possible.

[@qfiveo]

Have mine in the garage, going to assemble it this weekend. All it’s missing is some jammer arms!!!

[@qfiveo]

Does the G12 logo in the center of the machine have to be installed?

[@roystonvanwyk5086]

Is the plates..included?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Plates aren’t included.

[@danielmccabe3119]

Is 1:1 ratio okay for beginners / elderly father? Or am I better off buying one with a 2:1 ratio?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Hey Daniel, 1:1 ratio absolutely works for those categories you mentioned. The only difference between 1:1 cable ratio and 2:1 cable ratio is: 1:1 ratio- 100lbs=100lbs 2:1 ratio- 100lbs=50lbs If you do decide to purchase anything, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@danielmccabe3119]

@@StevieRichardsFitness will do. Thanks Stevie! 🤜

[@faizansayed4324]

Can this be installed at 4th floor apartment, what is total weight of G12?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

It all depends on how sound the structure of your flooring is. However, it would be quite a task to transport all the pieces up 4 floors to assemble. The G12 weighs 992lbs assembled. That’s quite a lot along with any plates, bars, etc. you’d put on the 4th floor.

[@bbull71]

I have it in my 3rd floor in my house. They fine, but our place is made pretty sturdy. Weights do create vibrations on the floor when they got re racked after bench, squat, overhead. Tkae care not to slam the weight stacks as well, they create vibrations on the floor as well. I am using rubber floor too.

[@faizansayed4324]

Thanks Stevie.I ordered 50mm rubber floor mat along with it. Hopefully it will minimize Vibration.

[@faizansayed4324]

Fleetingdreams thanks Mate.

[@gregnoble8083]

The plates come with the rack ? (Wasn’t sure)

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Plates not included.

[@asvet8050]

YES! Love how the machine can be put against the wall. Pain in the a## going to the rear and repeat. Awesome, absolutely stocked!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Yeah it’s a nice touch that I will want in my next trainer. If you do decide to purchase, please use this link- www.forceusa.com/stevie Of you have purchased, let me know how you’re liking it.

[@mkp007uk]

@@StevieRichardsFitness About £1500 dearer in U.K. ☹️

[@pharoahfarrow3560]

When is it coming back? I have been waiting also for months.

[@martyvillareal2028]

Hi pharaoh what do you mean waiting for months

[@justinf20007]

If they had orange instead of red and blue I would be all over it … still thinking about getting it … how long does it take after purchase?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Covid has slowed shipping times down a little bit. My G3 arrived about 12 days after ordering. Processing took about 48 hours before shipping. I made an appointment with the freight company and they arrived within the window they gave me. If you do decide to purchase, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@justinf20007]

12 days ain’t bad at all!!!! I will def uses your link for sure ! Good stuff!

[@markbalkovic6667]

leg press?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

It includes a leg press attachment. I didn’t have access to it that day.

[@tonixx2138]

Great video, just wish you guys covered the leg press feature

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I have a video being published soon on the G20. The leg press feature on that is the same as the G12.

[@byoder0420]

Great video guys thanks. I will definitely be ordering the G12 when they get back in stock.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Thanks for watching the video and commenting. If you order the G12 or anything else, please use this link- www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@martydennis8623]

These rack look a little short!!! I’m sure you can’t do standing military presses on the smith machine if your close to six foot tall?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

That’s true. You need to be sitting to perform that exercise.

[@kurtbarlow5408]

Wow fantastic bit of kit and really good review, I think after everything that’s going on in the world right now home gyms are going to be far more popular.

[@dinofernandez3499]

Are you able to do any type of leg work other than the leg press?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Absolutely. There’s lots of leg work you can do with the cables.

[@dinofernandez3499]

@@StevieRichardsFitness Thank you, would like to see a full leg work out sometime soon. I'm looking to buy one but they been out of stock

[@shermanmargaret5521]

Is there anyway where i can get this equipment from? Used or new. Need one asap!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

The Force USA website is your best bet when they have stock. Too many people price gouging right now on sites like Craigslist.

[@shermanmargaret5521]

@@StevieRichardsFitness Thank u Sir! Hope to get my hands on one of these soon.

[@crazyboy4793]

Man I have been searching for these all in one trainers for a long time. This one is the closest one to being perfect. Missing a bench that can attach cables to and a lower cable pulley system in the middle.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Yes I’ve used some of those trainer/bench combinations. The benches seem kind of wonky- I guess because they have to add the areas for cable exercises like leg curls/extensions. The G12’s leg press attachment doubles as a low row foot plate, so that fill a popular lower cable exercise. If you end up getting the G12 or anything off the site, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@elitgalvani4463]

Can monolifts fit in G12?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

If you’re talking about 3rd party, it may void the structural warranty. The ones Force USA sells are for the myrack, folding myrack.

[@martyvillareal2028]

It’s been really hard to get a hold of a sales rep to talk to really interested in ordering the g 6 it would be really nice to have a person to talk to before having to go with a different model here at home in San Antonio Tx so please respond

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

What are some of the questions you have? I can try to answer them. You can email me at [e-mail].

[@martyvillareal2028]

@@StevieRichardsFitness Need a good phone number to speak with sales Rep. and a list of what comes with G6 for 4.000.00 dollars

[@martyvillareal2028]

Finally got someone to answer the phone phone from force USA and now g6 is out of stock but feel confident I’ll get my g6 soon thank you Stevie Richards for mentioning your name and getting 5 percent discount

[@Fitforacting]

25:20 so funny I did the same thing with Slack for my job

[@raytrei13]

Does it come with a landmine?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I believe it does. It’s labeled under the core trainer attachment.

[@phillipwalsh3057]

Stevie how do we get your code ?

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

Use STEVIE5 when checking out. Thank you.

[@Mike-ln1wf]

Hi there can you tell me if you have one in person that you can measure yourself? It says that the height is 90” but someone told me they measured theirs and it’s only 88”.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I believe the 90” measurement is the highest point of the trainer. The highest point is the tops of the cable apparatus. 88” should be the top of the steel frame of the G12. Please use the code STEVIE5 at checkout if you place an order. Thanks.

[@bestfilmsHqv]

How much it cosr sir ?!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

www.forceusa.com/products/g12-commercial

[@billg1871]

I have watched nearly all of these videos with Force USA and appreciate your reviews immensely. I am saddened to learn that their machines are manufactured in China, and feel a little deceived that they weren't forthright about it with a name having USA in it. Many companies outsource their manufacturing but the best ones are up front about it and go into confident detail about their QC and engineering people co-located on site to ensure product quality.

[@paint4you792]

I called today to purchase this machine but I cant get it in Canada😢

[@sleepy1171]

There's one machine available in Australia but it's 5.5k. Hesitating on buying it.

[@paint4you792]

I ended up going with the Inspire FT2 model, $5600 but it's pretty sweet

[@sleepy1171]

@@paint4you792 yeah actually someone else on KZbin said they also went with the FT2. Can you use a normal barbell on it and not the Smith machine?

[@paint4you792]

Unfortunately no, that's the only bad part about the machine. My plan is to purchase the 2 stands for squatting and benching and just pull them out when necessary

[@sleepy1171]

@@paint4you792 yeah sweet that's an easy fix. Then you're all goods.

[@hvac-sagawolfpack3248]

I love this system Im currently saving up for it

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

It is a great all in one trainer. When you do decide to purchase, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie

[@Fitforacting]

@18:04 You’re too funny Stevie! 🤣 We still love you 💯

[@ChameleonsFan]

This would probably be the perfect homegym, if the Smith machine had a seven degree angle.

[@ViolentDestruction]

Hey Stevie I was able to purchase this today using your code Stevie5 (Finally back in stock). I was wondering if you knew approximately how much time it takes to assemble? I was also wondering if this would be safe on the 2nd story of a house? Thanks!

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

When I asked Dan about the assembly time on their new models like the G12, he said they streamlined assembly time to 4-6 hours. Definitely get some help to assemble. It’s not a one person job. Thanks so much for the using the code and keep me updated on how the equipment is working for you.

[@MrTriple268]

@Violent Destruction The G12 weighs about 1000lbs. Not sure if it’s a good idea but somewhere on the comments, someone have done that and had no issue. Where did you get your G12? What country are you in?

[@Fitforacting]

18:05 I hope you can heal your elbow. I know you are almost 50, but no one should be in Pain

[@ngatiwaihitman]

Weak Chest/Tri

[@davidhutchinson5233]

No more gym membership. Love that idea.

[@StevieRichardsFitness]

I haven’t had one in years. It’s awesome.

[@andrewvassos3304]

Wish i could get free stuff...must be nice but im waiting for my obama care to kick in..

[@winstrolbatman]

What a clownish thing to say, it wasn't free for Stevie.. His time is valuable because of his name, his reviews of their product is more than worth it for them giving him a machine.. lol

[@xentaatnex8261]

I got 5k Force USA! You want it, give me a call and sell me one of these!